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18 Sep 2017 00:30:18
Edmonton
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
- 2nd
Minnesota
- Mathew Dumba
Toronto
- Tyler Bozak

TOR - 2nd
MIN - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
EDM - Mathew Dumba, Tyler Bozak

18 Sep 2017 22:41:59
Nuge > Dumba, Minnesota needs to give up more IMO.

18 Sep 2017 00:27:22
Edmonton
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Minnesota:
- Matthew Dumba

02 Sep 2017 04:28:09
After the Thomas Vanek signing, Vancouver has way too many forwards. The biggest name brands (Daniel and Henrik Sedin) are free agents after this season, and are unlikely to return to the rebuilding club. So here is my trade offer (s) ;

Trade 1.

D. Sedin + H. Sedin to the New York Rangers in exchange for R. Nash + S. Day + 2018 2nd Round Pick + 2018 4th Round Pick.

- New York needs a centre, and Henrik Sedin provides that.
- Daniel Sedin provides a deadly left side for New York (Himself, Kreider, Vesey, Buch)

- Vancouver is not going to get a first round pick for each Sedin, they're values have dipped.
- Rick Nash can be flipped for more assets if salary is retained; Sean Day is a wild card dman, who could possibly be really good, and the second is pretty good value.

Trade 2.

R. Nash (50% Salary Retention) to the Washington Capitals in exchange for a 2018 2nd Round Pick + 2020 3rd Round Pick.

With the retention (&the brand name buy), a 2nd and 3rd is a fairly reasonable return for Rick Nash.


- In full; Daniel and Henrik Sedin (with 3.6 million in retention) for Sean Day, two seconds and a third and a fourth. Decent. Maybe a bit much, but idk.

02 Sep 2017 09:28:48
Sedins aren't going anywhere, you can't retain 4/ 3 players from the sedins, Vancouver has the forwards to create a competition for the prospects to make them earn a spot on the roster.

02 Sep 2017 16:25:46
Sedin's are not getting traded. They have a bunch of forwards but I believe that they won't even be picked up on waivers. So to trade NHL caliber player and play fringe AHL players will not get fans in the arena. Vancouver need to sell tickets and the Sedin's do that. Magna does not.

02 Sep 2017 21:03:14
But right now, as it stands, Goldobin and Virtanen are on the outside looking in for top9 minutes. Somethings got to give. Both are NHL ready, especially Nikolai.

03 Sep 2017 07:14:37
Goldobin has a hard time staying healthy. As for Virtanen I think he makes the team and Boucher gets put on waivers. Don't know if Dorsett is healthy enough to play. He might start the season on IR. I really don't think Goldobin is a top 6 NHL player. I might be wrong, I'm just not sold on him yet.

25 Aug 2017 18:09:47
WPG: Armia
MIN: Reilly

Jets trade from a position of strength to get a left handed defenseman. Wild get a bottom 6 forward and trade someone that wouldn't make the team this year anyways. Both players are the same age and drafted in the same year (Armia 16th Overall in 2011) (Reilly 98th Overall in 2011)

25 Aug 2017 18:25:06
You have already posted this man, or someone else did but I've defs seen this already.

16 Aug 2017 02:59:36
Wild thought but

Tampa Bay acquires:
-D Sedin
-H Sedin

Vancouver acquires:
-1st round pick 2018
-Callan Foote

Lightning get solid scorers to help with a possible cup run. Canucks ship off the Sedin's to the Eastern Conference and acquire a late 1st as well as a top 4/6 D prospect for their future since their D core is looking pretty bad.

16 Aug 2017 05:47:59
Theres a small thing called salary cap.

16 Aug 2017 06:28:28
1. No thanks
2. Cap.

16 Aug 2017 13:42:20
Over pay because they're falling off and only going to get worse. They were great players, but that's behind them. Also I'm you're sending $850k (if foote even signed his ELC, not sure he did) and taking on near $15 mill I believe on a team that is already making side deals like garrison with vegas ans filpula at last deadline to shed salary.

16 Aug 2017 15:47:05
Yeah that makes sense. I didn't really think about the salary cap.

06 Aug 2017 12:45:22
(G) Michael Hutchinson + (C) Nic Petan to the Minnesota Wild in exchange for (RW) Chris Stewart + 2018 3rd Round Pick.

- Minny needs a backup goalie.
- Winnipeg could use a 4th line RW.

06 Aug 2017 16:36:32
Man Chris Stewart has really fallen off smh. I remember when he was suppose to be a consistent 50-60 point power forward. Now he's a guy that barely hits 20 points.

06 Aug 2017 17:24:36
I would think no from WPG.

06 Aug 2017 17:46:58
@KL

I remember him back in Colorado hitting 50+ points. He went to STL and after the trade to Buffalo, he fell off.

09 Aug 2017 17:16:14
Makes zero sense for the peg, maybe if it was just for Hutchinson since they signed mason. But for the peg to give up on petan, they're going to need more than that package, that's for sure.

03 Aug 2017 05:11:39
Leafs:
1st 2018
2nd 2019


Wild:
James van Riemsdyk LW
3rd 2019

Leafs:
3rd 2019 lowest

Golden Knights:
Nathan Horton RW
Ben Smith RW
Justin Holl D
Frederik Gauthier C
2nd 2019
3rd 2020

03 Aug 2017 05:38:34
Both horrible.

03 Aug 2017 13:39:22
Horton contract is not insured! Don't think Vegas want to pay 5 mill a year for a guy that doesn't play.

03 Aug 2017 15:48:46
Yeah without insurance on Horton, very few teams can do it. I'm sure Lou tried it and wasn't going to happen.

03 Aug 2017 18:30:05
I'm sure Lou didn't try to get rid of Horton, because no one can burn money like the Leafs, and why would he pay to get rid of problem that's not a problem?

03 Aug 2017 19:55:44
I'm not saying he offered first round picks, but if there was an option to move him on that made sense, he would. As much as people think money is no object to the leafs, Lou and shanahan still have bosses in ownership to answer to and if they were able to get their owners off the hook of paying $20+ million for a guy that's never going to play, they could get that money for something else. It's not a cap problem, but it's still millions from someone's pocket who would appreciate not paying it if possible.

03 Aug 2017 23:04:42
And what deal you propose that would even remotely make sense? You're not tricking someone into taking Horton or Lupul because they might have a bounce back year or something, and they clearly value picks and prospects more then the amount of money that those two are making. Believe me when I say that, with corporate ownership, they've thought this through in much more depth than you or I should bother to.

04 Aug 2017 04:42:58
I think Toronto was spending over 80 million on players before the cap was introduced. In 12 years they haven't come close to that but raised ticket prices. I'm sure they are fine eating Hortons salary.

04 Aug 2017 05:25:28
I don't think they ever spent that much, but I'm too lazy to go check. I always thought they were at a max of around 50-60 mil before the cap, with DET and NYR being the two that spent ridiculously, but I could be very wrong.

05 Aug 2017 10:59:29
Vagas can't afford to pay Horton.

26 Jul 2017 12:15:53
I saw this on Broad Street Hockey while discussing if Simmonds contract and Flyers development is out of sync and the possibility of trading him. Simmonds is a great leader, possesses many intangibles, and is a decent goal scorer by parking himself in front of the net. He's on an amazing contract that the Flyers won't get full value on as they won't be competitive until at least 2019-20. It's best to trade him to a contender that can fit his contract.

Oilers: Simmonds (2 years x $3.975MM)
Flyers: Puljujarvi (2 years ELC), 1st 2018

I think this is too much from Edmonton but Simmonds is more valuable to Edmonton on the ice over the next two years than Puljujarvi and a draft pick. I think it's justifiable though; 2 years of Simmonds at $3.975 is enticing seeing as how he's a cheaper version of Lucic on a cheaper AAV.

Wild: Simmonds (2 years x $3.975MM)
Flyers: Kaprizov (KHL), 1st 2018

I don't know what Foligno, Grandlund and Niederreiter will command as RFAs but I'd imagine Minnesota is tight to the cap. I'd ask for Vegas' 2018 3rd as well due to the KHL factor.

The other obvious flaw is that the original proposal had Puljujarvi = Kaprizov, which I don't think is true.

26 Jul 2017 15:41:47
Because he is a UFA in 2 years, If anyone will give up a prospect like Puljujarvi, which I think if some teams want Simmonds that bad they might, They sure won't be adding a 1st to a prospect like that for two years of someone.

26 Jul 2017 17:21:58
I like it tbh not sure if Edmonton goes down that path tho.

08 Aug 2017 22:43:57
The 1st won't be nearly as high as Edmonton has been picking at seemingly for the last 20 years so that pick isn't as sexy as its made out.

07 Jul 2017 14:50:02
Edmonton Oilers trade Jesse Puljujarvi to Minnesota Wild in exchange for Matthew Dumba.

Klefbom - Larsson
Nurse - Dumba
Sekera - Russell

07 Jul 2017 16:50:18
thats bad.

07 Jul 2017 20:41:44
No, they don't.

30 Jun 2017 16:59:32
Confirmed๐Ÿ’ฅ

Buffalo acquires: Scandella, pominville 2018 4th.


Minnesota aquires: Tyler Ennis, Marcus Foligno, 2018 3rd.

IMO Minnesota got absolutely robbed. Buffalo got the 2 best players out of the deal Marcus foligno is at best a 3rd line LW and Tyler ennis is an overpayed 3rd line center with 2 years remaining.

30 Jun 2017 17:05:56
LW my bad ๐Ÿค— but just my opinion.

30 Jun 2017 19:02:41
It was a cap trade.

30 Jun 2017 22:25:22
Buffalo wanting to pick up D. Good move to bring in Scandella for them.

30 Jun 2017 23:25:28
I have two Dissagrees but Minnesota did this for Pure cap reasons because of there RFA's like Granlund.

30 Jun 2017 23:46:32
And. once again Bergevin misses out on a Dman he was trying to get. oh boy., have a feeling its going to be a long season in Montreal, especially with what I believe is going to happen tomorrow on Free Agency.

01 Jul 2017 02:59:58
And Minnesota fans were saying that galchenyuk for Scandella and 5th was fair lol!

29 Jun 2017 00:57:49
WPG: Petan, Little
CLB: Murray

Or

WPG: Petan, Stanley, Harkins
VGK: Theodore

Or

WPG: Petan, Armia, Tanev
CAR: Slavin

Or

WPG: Petan, Dano, Kostalek
MIN: Rielly

29 Jun 2017 05:16:58
You don't like Petan don't you.

29 Jun 2017 05:45:37
Carolina one is bad.

29 Jun 2017 14:06:54
Try for Derrick Pouliot of the Penguins.

29 Jun 2017 14:51:22
The only one that's even somewhat close is the Columbus one, and only because they need a centre with Karlsson being gone.

26 Jun 2017 19:45:52
LA: Marian Gaborik, Adrian Kempe and 2018 3rd

Ottawa: Bobby Ryan

LA: Gets a very serviceable top 6 forward who could use a change of Scenery. He is overpaid but he could help the Kings.

Ottawa: Gets cap space and a top prospect in Adrian Kempe. Marian Gaborik is an wildcard. He is coming off of two bad seasons but he does have the tools to be very good. Still has a shot,nice hands and is an amazing skater. Could do well with a change of scenery.

26 Jun 2017 21:30:31
I'd do that and run tbh.

27 Jun 2017 01:11:34
I feel like Ottawa would just gets most of its money back, except for Silfverberg so ya just take it and run.

22 Jun 2017 22:04:48
Try to get a Center in MIN and some Defense for EDM.

EDM - RNH
MIN - Dumba

How does this look as a base?

Wild centers are getting old and could use some youth in their lineup.
Dumba has great upside and is still young to grow with the team in the phase they are presently in. Also sheds cap space for McD and Drais.

23 Jun 2017 01:03:30
This looks fair honestly.

23 Jun 2017 04:40:25
Looks fair. FT4A is going to want 2 1sts, Suter and Dumba however.

23 Jun 2017 16:28:46
I try not to think about FT4A when it has anything to do with Hockey. Just glad to see i had some agree with it. For the people who don't - how would you change it around? I was thinking as a base but didn't know how to add from that point. MJC? Yep? Some other EDM fans out there?
I'm a habs fan, but have EDM in my top 3 teams.

24 Jun 2017 14:16:47
This deal was apparently on the table last year and oilers said no. Not without a 2 or 3rd coming back to edmonton. Dumba is still not responsible enough in his own zone. IMO Nuge took a huge step forward this year.

23 Jun 2017 00:41:13
Based on a Bob McKenzie Tweet
"More likely than not EDM Trades Ederle and MIN trades a D-Man"

NYI - Jordan Ederle, Greg Chase, 22nd and 84th Overall
EDM - Travis Hamonic, Anthony Beauviller, 46th and 77th Overall

MTL - Marco Scandella (15% Retained)
MIN - Zachary Fucale

Reasonings:

NYI - New York recently traded their first off to ensure that Vegas takes Grabovski, so if Oilers put that first in their basically moving down to keep Grabovski. Also Eberle/ Duchene talks have been heating up with Snow so we know Snow is interested. And as for Chase, he's basically a place holder for Beauviller in the AHL. He has promise putting up point for game numbers playing first line with McDavid on pre season. Also has potential to be the next Frederick Gaudreau if you will (unexpected breakout star)

EDM - Edmonton finally gets Hamonic who've they have been in trade discussions to get him since last season. Plus Beauviller who Edmonton has as well expressed interest in, which in turn in prospect wise takes over the 1st round pick's value. And now Edmonton has 2 2nd's and has 2 3rd's which they moved up with one of them. They can either acquire a lower first or keep those picks. And Edmonton isn't in dire need of 1st round prospects for that matter



MIN - Trading Scandella was basically set in stone. With Brodin being the only possible option, Spurgeon being a no and Dumba too early in career. And to get someone like Fucale may be a risk but it can be worth it. Fucale who has been starting in the ECHL needs a fresh start, and to take a former second round draft pick off Montreal hands when his value is at an all time low is ideal for Minnesota. With a fresh start with Iowa Wild next season, he can be backing up Dubynk or even challenging for the starter role within the next year or so.

MTL - Montreal just Lot 2 defence off their top 6 plus a possible top 6 for next season in Sergachev, so they are in need for another defenceman. And it seems Bergevin has been busy on the phone so if they acquire Scandella (with cap retained) he can easily slot in where Beaulieu or Emelin was. And for trading Fucale, there is Charlie Lindgren that at the moment has more value, but for Montreal to trade off an ECHL starter shouldn't be a harm for them.

23 Jun 2017 01:05:24
Lol that Minnesota trade is brutal that's a huge yes from Montreal but never going to happen.

23 Jun 2017 01:24:50
I feel you put in way too much effort in this and the trade already happened lol that sucks.

23 Jun 2017 01:52:17
Well, clearly not. At least on the EDM/ NYI one.

23 Jun 2017 20:41:10
This is probably the dumbest thing I've ever seen posted on this site. Eberle was already traded and that's a huge overpayments and ohh my is that ever a brutal deal for Minnesota wow just wow Fucal is barely good enough to play in the AHL.

22 Jun 2017 18:19:20
This is a rumour that I saw on a TSN and not a trade that I suggested.

Montreal trades: Glachenyuk, 2017 1st

Minnesota trades: Jonas Brodin , Joel Erikseen Ek

22 Jun 2017 18:42:04
I would make it simple - Galchenyuk for Scandella. Maybe small plus from the Wild.

22 Jun 2017 18:44:48
That's definitely interesting but idk can't see minny doing that.

22 Jun 2017 18:50:51
Galchenyuk for Scandella ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ is that a joke Scandella is 27 and not even a top pairing D and will only get worst Galchenyuk is 23 and will only get better.

22 Jun 2017 18:55:36
Maybe a small plus๐Ÿ˜‚ Kovinator how are you so clueless.

22 Jun 2017 19:39:31
Alikhan you are incredibly overrating chuck he is a good middle six winger. I like the 1st deal tho.

22 Jun 2017 19:51:01
@ Nylander You're right I kind of am not going to lie but he's worth wayyyy more than Scandella to be completely honest.

22 Jun 2017 19:59:21
From what I read, Minny isn't sold on Galchenyuk and they are very high on Brodin. Much more likely Scandella or Dumba go than Brodin.

22 Jun 2017 18:16:19
NYI: Barzal, Dal Colle and Pulock/De Hann

Colorado: Duchene

Is this to much for Duchene? I'm a huge Barzal Fan, Dal Colle Is a huge wild card and Pulock will be atleast a good top 4 dman or De Hann is okay a good 4th dman definitely less valuable then Pulock.

22 Jun 2017 18:29:26
Seen this on a rumors page. I think its pretty close, maybe too much from Isles, but idk.

22 Jun 2017 18:45:53
Dal Cole hasn't done much, neither has pulock unfortuneately, but barzal has a nice future hopefully. I think Colorado does it for pulock included over de hann.

21 Jun 2017 15:27:47
CONFIRMED:

Vegas: Erik Haula and Alex Tuch

Minnesota: Gets to protect Dumba, Scandella, Staal and Olofsson

Absolute steal for Minnesota. Yes Haula's a good player and Tuch will be too, but worth it for the Wild.

Now, does Minny trade a defenseman at the entry draft? Galchenyuk? Let the rumors begin...

21 Jun 2017 16:05:57
Tuch is really good tho, no?

21 Jun 2017 16:27:11
Wouldn't go as far as " Really good " I'd rather have Ericksson EK.

21 Jun 2017 17:04:56
Yeah pretty sure he'll be a top 6 forward.

21 Jun 2017 17:12:15
Actually it's rumoured that Haula just signed for Vegas and also Minnesota trades Alex Tuch and a 2nd round for them to keep their players btw Hanzal was a horrible trade for them shouldn't of done it.

21 Jun 2017 19:47:17
Agree with nylander 100%.

20 Jun 2017 06:46:54
Montreal trades: 2017 2nd/3rd, Nikita sherback

VGK: takes plekanec in draft

Montreal trades: 2018 1st, 2017 2nd , Charlie lindgren.

Minnesota trades: Marco scandella


Montreal trades: Alexi emilin

NJ trades: 2017 4th

Montreal signs
Radulov 4yrs/6.25mill
Markov 2yrs/4.25mill
Galchenyuk 6yrs/5.5mill
Montreal lineup

Pacioretty-Danault-Radulov
Drouin-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Byron-shaw-Lehkonen
Hudon-Mccaron-Mitchell

Scandella-Weber
Markov-petry
Jerabek-Benn

7th D -Davidson

19 Jun 2017 05:23:53
Montreal trades: 2018 1st, 2018 3rd, Andrew shaw, conditional 2018 2nd(condition is if RNH gets more than 60 points or if Montreal goes to the Stanley cup playoffs)if not than it's a 2019 3rd

Edmonton trades:RNH


Montreal trades: Nikita Sherback

Vegas takes: Plekanec

Montreal trades: Alex galchenyk, 2018 2nd, 2017 2nd, 2019 4th

Minnesota trades: Jonas Brodin, Charlie coyle

Montreal signs
-Radulov 4yrs/25mill
-markov 2yrs/5mill

Montreal lineup

Pacioretty-RNH-Radulov
Drouin-coyle-gallagher
Byron-danault-Lehkonen
Martinesen-Hudon-Mccaron

Brodin-weber
Markov-petry
emilin-Benn

7th D Davidson

Price
Montoya

19 Jun 2017 06:31:53
I meant Stanley cup final my bad๐Ÿ˜….

19 Jun 2017 09:06:50
Lol. Dreamland.

19 Jun 2017 12:28:50
No way from Minny. I'd value Coyle higher than Galchenyuk and you won't get Brodin for 2 2nds and a 4th.

19 Jun 2017 18:12:07
Like yup said. Dreamland. but it is a nice dream. jus don't see all that coming into play. That top 6 forwards look really good though.
And don't take it personal, I dream like that all the time. lol.

19 Jun 2017 20:56:45
Does Montreal even have the cap space to do all of this.

19 Jun 2017 21:06:54
I'd rather use all those pick (too many to list) and players, Galchenyak, Sherbak, Shaw for MacKinnon and Barrie.

21 Jun 2017 15:29:18
No from minny.

18 Jun 2017 20:17:34
Calgary:
โ€ข Mark Jankowski
โ€ข Troy Brouwer
โ€ข 16th Overall

Minnesota:
โ€ข Matthew Dumba

Calgary:
โ€ข 3rd round pick
Vegas:
โ€ข to take Stajan

Mark Giordano - Dougie Hamilton
TJ Brodie - Matthew Dumba
Matt Bartkowski - Michael Stone

Sign Stone 3m x 3yrs

19 Jun 2017 12:33:39
No point in giving up a 3rd to have Stajan picked. His contract isn't that bad.

Would love Dumba, but I don't see that happening.

21 Jun 2017 01:35:40
Lol Flames are stuck with brouwer, a team like Minny will defs not take him and his contract.

 
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