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21 Apr 2018 12:40:41
Minnesota: Zach Parise ( 33 year old signed 8 more years at 7.1 mil ), Jared Spurgeon and 1st rd 2018

Montreal: Weber

Minnesota: rids them selves of a horrible Parise contract and brings in a number 1 dman and reunites one of the greatest D pairs ever in the NHL. Suter and Weber.

Montreal: gets younger and Spurgeon is a very good replacement as a solid 2nd dman. The Canadians can hope for an compliance buy out in the next CBA meeting for Parise. IMO after his surgery Parise is much better he can easily be a 65 Point player again if he stays healthy he could fit in the Canadians system.

21 Apr 2018 15:15:09
Parise is done being a 65 point player. I agree he could still be usefull as a second third line winger and maybe on the pp. I would take thus from mtl not sure Minny would tho.

21 Apr 2018 15:36:04
that contract is horrible no no no.

18 Apr 2018 20:48:14
Wild trade! Just to see reactions!
Oilers: 1st round pick 2018 + Lucic
Panthers: Petrovic

Oilers: Russel + B prospect
Islanders: Ho Sang (Islanders could use more stability on the back end)

This leaves a huge cap space for Oilers. Over 17m after signing Nurse + Caggiula + Benning + Strome

Oilers Sign:
Grabner: 3m x 3 (I like his speed and kills penalties)
Maroon 3m x 3 (He would replace Lucic’s physicality but cheaper)
Derek Ryan 1.5 x 1 or 2 (4th lone centre, allowing JJ to play 3rd line with Strome.

Carlson 7 m x 7 or
Green 5m x 2 (preferably Carlson)

Hutton as back goalie 1.5 x 2
Trade Montoya for anything or send him down to AHL.

RNH - McDavid- Grabner
Maroon - Drai - Ho Sang
JJ - Strome - Puljujarvi
Caggiula - Ryan - Kassian
Arberg

Nurse - Carlson
Klefbom - Larson
Sekera - Petrovic
Benning.

18 Apr 2018 23:03:01
Probably what it’d cost to dump Lucic but I’m not sure if edm is that desperate yet.

19 Apr 2018 00:43:54
No from Edmonton, wow.
Could work but I think islanders may prefer younger dman (Benning) and hard to tell when you say B prospect, got to day somebody.
Grabner signing could be good he has speed.
Maroon, no, considering we will still have lucic.
Derek Ryan could be a great signing especially at that deal.
Carlson will seek more money imo, and green is he is 100% healthy that deal wouldn’t be bad.
Hutton would be good backup!

19 Apr 2018 02:24:28
I don't think there's a team out there that would take Lucic.

19 Apr 2018 04:41:26
No from Oilers and Islanders. Would rather keep the draft pick and Lucic. And Ho-Sang can get better.

19 Apr 2018 05:58:52
What do you think Carlson would get? I can’t see more than 7.5 m over 7 years?
The idea of getting maroon is because Lucic would be gone.
Can someone tell me what you think Ho Sang would get? What has this kid proven?

19 Apr 2018 14:52:57
No way Mr Cap Dump Ruseel gets you a young playwr with as much as potential as ho sang. Yes he has attitude problems but so did Tyler Seguin.

19 Apr 2018 15:13:53
Sorry to tell you Ebs but if top 6 player in they're late 20s and early 30 gets 5.5 -7 million for 5-7 year when an actual valuable RHD #1 D that just had a 60 point season comes along he's getting 9+ million. Especially after the seaso he just had. I woulndt be surprise if he gets 9.5×7. he's only 27 too.

14 Apr 2018 00:18:24
Canucks trade: tanev, Baertschi, Goldobin, 4th round pick 2019

Wild trade: dumba, 1st round pick 2019


Would this be possible?

14 Apr 2018 07:16:05
Hahahahahahaha. Watch two Minny Winnipeg playoff games and see that Dumba is stepping up huge while Suter is out so you want to trade for him. And you want them to add their 1st. Lmao. You're so delusional.

14 Apr 2018 08:11:42
Are you really trying to chirp me hahahaha. You must be a pretty sweet dude.

14 Apr 2018 10:34:16
Sorry, This is not possible.
Lol
Better?

14 Apr 2018 12:25:29
Bentley = Brock?

Posts are just as bad and homerish.

14 Apr 2018 12:56:56
Was thinking the exact same thing. I actually thought it was Brock. I wrote my first reply thinking it was him.

14 Apr 2018 16:19:32
Is it a coincidence that once Golden Showers was gone, all these other " characters" came outta the wood work. ?

14 Apr 2018 17:38:25
If Bentley isn’t Brock, they could be best friends lol.

14 Apr 2018 21:09:29
You forgot to add staal and Granlund from Minnesota that’s the only way this awesome trade would get Vancouver’s attention!

16 Apr 2018 20:23:36
Doesnt really fit min soda need or canucks maybe tanev gaudette sven
Gaudette did get any point with canucks but look really set up a lot of scoring chances they need a center.

13 Apr 2018 03:04:50
Flyers have cap space for 2018-19 and potentially need a third line centre until prospects can come up. They also need another RHD prospect and scoring winger prospects and have an abundance of LHD players and prospects (Sanheim, Morin, Hagg, Provorov, Gostisbehere).

Dallas desperately needs secondary scoring from resilient (non-injury prone) players.

Ottawa needs prospects - lots of them.

Trade 1:
DAL: Simmonds ($3.975MM NTC until 2019)
PHI: 2018 1st (13th overall), 2018 2nd, 2018 CHI 4th, Jason Spezza ($7.5MM until 2019 M-NTC/NMC) (cap dump)
Simmonds accepts because he'll want a new deal in a state tax free jurisdiction and Dallas has cap space. Spezza accepts because the Flyers are in the playoffs this year and present a better opportunity to win next year)

Trade 2:
PHI: 2018 1st (2nd overall)
OTT: STL 2018 1st (14th overall), PHI 2018 (19th overall), Sam Morin, Mike Vecchione
(Morin is NHL ready and would've been on the roster but for Travis Sanheim, Dave Hakstol, and 2 injuries. Vecchione is NHL ready with a 3C ceiling)

Flyers draft:
2nd overall: Andrei Svechnikov or Brady Tkachuk
13th overall: Bode Wilde, Ryan Merkeley, or Grigori Denisenko

13 Apr 2018 05:55:22
haven't gostisbehere and provorov played the last 2-3 seasons?

13 Apr 2018 06:30:40
Tkatchuk 2nd overall yikes man better options! But fits their org mold for sure. Also for sure not trading Vecchione, guy chose to sign there they won’t trade him.

13 Apr 2018 12:26:54
Dallas won’t trade that pick as they are hosting the draft. And imo that’s not enough to move up to 2nd overall.

13 Apr 2018 15:55:40
PKane88: yes, Provorov has been playing for 2 years and Ghost for 3 years. That's why I said players and prospects.

McJesus: I've seen Tkachuk as high as second but on average 4th overall. I haven't seen Tkachuk, Svechnikov etc play so I trust draft boards. The only consensus I've seen in this draft is Dahlin = 1st overall.

I'll disagree on Vecchione. He signed before last year's draft lottery and Nolan Patrick occupying a spot in the lineup. I think Hextall sees Vorobyev as higher than Vecchione. As a more mature college player, his upside is lower but entry to the NHL quicker than a draft pick or Voro. It'd be a favour to Vecchione to get him playing NHL minutes.

vbbbvvbb: they'd be more reluctant to trade it for sure but it's not out of the question. Getting Simmonds and making a splash in free agency (Tavares? Kane? ) would offset any PR backlash by trading a pick. It's a consideration but I couldn't see them keeping it when it would make sense for them to trade it given the right deal.

PS I could also see this type of trade (trading for 2-5 overall) working with other teams that need prospect depth vice top line quality. I could see Ottawa and Arizona looking to trade down for additional 1st round picks. Philadelphia has tremendous depth but need top line quality. New York is looking to trade up as well.
Just my thoughts.

13 Apr 2018 16:04:42
vbbbvvbb: "And imo that’s not enough to move up to 2nd overall" I think it's plenty to move up. This draft is not 2015. It's not enough to get Dahlin but 14th, 19th, Morin, and Vecchione is definitely a solid offer.

Morin is NHL ready and is an immediate improvement to their bottom pair, if not their 4 spot. Although the fact that he's a former 1st rounder is irrelevant, he was drafted as a project with a later NHL entry date. He'd be on the Flyers now if not for aforementioned reasons.

Vecchione will never be a top 6 forward but is a good NHL prospect that is NHL ready. Many Flyers fans argue he should've been on the roster this year but blame Hakstol's infatuation with slow, aging veterans.

This is for 2nd overall, not Jack Eichel 2nd overall. 14th and 19th are quality picks and 2-5 overall doesn't guarantee a game changing player ie Dylan Strome. The value is there.

13 Apr 2018 17:15:10
Imo you overrate Morin. Even with Sanhiem who is much better/ Valuable I doubt the other team would accept.

13 Apr 2018 17:31:50
Frankly, I don't think you know enough about Morin or Sanheim to make that determination. Sure, Sanheim definitely has a higher ceiling.
It was a toss-up as to who would stay with the team after training camp. Both had great camps and if we didn't have so many young defencemen, both would have made it. Morin also would've drawn into the lineup this year after AMac's injury and Gudas' suspension but Morin got hurt. He was snakebitten this year but was certainly meritorous.

2 mid firsts, Morin, and Vecchione is a solid offer that suits the needs of both parties, not a lopsided homer proposal. I'd hate to give up Morin and those picks, but quality is the cost of quality.

13 Apr 2018 20:43:42
I just think you underestimate the value of the 2nd overall pick no it’s not in the same Catagory as Dahlin but the team trading the pick would need to be an offensive loaded team in desperate need of defence and is no where near contention. So possibly Buffalo is really the only choice the asking price would start with Provornov straight up or Ghost++. Regardless top 5 picks don’t get traded.

13 Apr 2018 21:15:04
Ottawa aren't trading that pick
Dream on and enjoy the series.

13 Apr 2018 23:55:20
vbbb: I think you overestimate the 2nd overall pick. These are highly talented yet unproven players. Again, please stop acting like mid-first round picks are worthless. The two leading contenders for the Calder Trophy (Barzal and McAvoy) were taken in the teens. The quality is there. I can name a bunch of recent Top 5 picks that have underwhelmed (Reinharts, Yakupov, E Lindholm, Bennett, Dal Colle, D Strome, Juolevi) .

For teams looking for a complete rebuild that who miss out on Dahlin, getting two picks in the teens and a solid prospect is worthwhile. One can argue that Ottawa and Arizona need prospect depth and should sacrifice quality for less quality but quantity. All of those top teams need a Dahlin, but there's a distinct difference between 1 and 2. It's a reasonable strategy. The teams that could trade that pick suck overall and could use any player, but the logic is that two players are better than one and quality picks occur in the teens.

Any team would love to have Dahlin, but the Flyers are one of the last teams that need him given their quality and youth on defence.

13 Apr 2018 23:57:59
Keyhabs: I'm a cynic by nature so I'll assume the "enjoy the series" remark was directed at the Flyers playing Spearing Sidney and the Cowardly Pengwhines. If so, stones and glass houses and such. Enjoy the offseason with Bergevin with a cancerous Weber contract, no starting centre, a thin prospect pool, and a listless captain leading to a decade of mediocrity.

14 Apr 2018 01:05:13
Arizona does not need depth they’re pretty loaded could use another dman and Center. Ottawa has good depth at all positions imo. Neither team is looking to trade that pick only team that could potentially is Edmonton and they’re searching for a different package. Maybe Simmonds and Ghost for Tkachuk? That’s what I’d ask for if I were Edmonton. A potential gritty presence that’s will likely put up 30-40-70 seasons considering he’s more hyped then his bro who is already a Cornerstone piece.

14 Apr 2018 03:46:04
Just took a quick overview of Zthe sens prospect pool there C depth is very solid but they do need a stud dman. So I think a Provornov-Svechnikov/ Tkachuk swap would be fair.

14 Apr 2018 16:48:25
vbbb: Arizona has lots of top prospects (if you consider Dylan Strome to still be a top prospect) but little depth. Ottawa does not have a strong prospect pool. In fact, the Hockey Writers ranked them 27/ 31 at the start of this season. The Senators need depth; they need everything. I suggested Arizona and Ottawa because several pundits (I can't find the article) suggested that they consider trading down. Dorion very recently ruled it out.

You completely underestimate Ghost and Provorov. Provorov is a #1 defenceman at 21 years old and was tied for the most goals among defencemen in the league this year. Ghost finished with 65 points, 3 off the lead for defencemen. Their analytics numbers were through the roof; they didn't get much credit because they were only paired together the last 3 third of the season.

It's hilarious that you think Simmonds+Ghost = Tkachuk. I'd take Ghost over Matthew Tkachuk right now. Provorov for Tkachuk is an even bigger joke.

You're clueless.

14 Apr 2018 18:26:27
Ghost is 1 dimensional I’ll take Mathew Tkachuk over him any day. Obviously Provornov is amazing and almost any team besides Carolina/ Nashville/ Calargry would take Provornov over Brady Tkachuk both will be elite. But you don’t trade a top 5 pick unless it’s an offer so ridiculous you can’t say no to.

14 Apr 2018 19:51:08
Ghost is far from 1 dimensional. He's been a very complete defenceman this year and managed to rack up 65 points. 65 points! Again, you're clueless. Any team would take Provorov, proven at the NHL level, over a talented yet ultimately unproven entity in Brady Tkachuk. Furthermore, Provorov is a better defenceman than Matthew Tkachuk is a forward.

"But you don’t trade a top 5 pick unless it’s an offer so ridiculous you can’t say no to" Again, this assumes that the top 5 pick is a surefire NHL star, which it's not. Hello Dylan Strome, Nail Yakupov etc. 14th and 19th overall gives you two quality players.

14 Apr 2018 20:30:57
I believe Brady Tkachuk>>Mathew Tkachuk and I’m sure anyone who’s seen both play would agree. Ghost is a younger Kevin Shattenkurk. I don’t claim to be a Flyers fan but from what I’ve seen his minutes are sheltered. Again I don’t watch majority of his games. I like him but I’ll take both Tkachuk over him on a leafs team who needs a RHD so that says a lot. Also you’re talking like 14th and 19th overall are going to play in the NHL. They both have potential to be stars but they’re far more likely to bust while the 2nd overall pick is almost guaranteed to be a cornerstone player. I’m not denying in what you stated Provornov>Tkachuk and I’m not saying flyers should accept it but that’s what it’d take.

14 Apr 2018 22:36:19
Yo 1st off you need to understand that they call it a draft (lottery) for a reason!

Just because ottawa finished 2nd last in the standings it doesn't mean they will get the 2nd overall pick. They won't get lower than the 5th pick but also have the 2nd best odds of getting the "number 1" pick.

That being said, this package yet again is a major low ball offer towards the sens like every other pathetic excuse of a trade proposal most of you people post. Get real and start basing returns on their players and assets with actually value not your own messed up thoughts on how they aren't worth equal value to their other team equivalents!

14 Apr 2018 23:46:09
vbbb: you admittedly know very little about the Flyers then talk about how Ghost's minutes are sheltered from what you've seen. To correct you yet again, host plays on the top pair with Provorov and goes against the other team's best lines. The only favourable minutes he gets is on the power play. Ghost was a younger Kevin Shattenkirk when he first entered the league, but not know. Catch up. You keep digging the hole deeper for yourself.

"I like him but I’ll take both Tkachuk over him on a leafs team who needs a RHD so that says a lot" this implies, but it's not explicitly stated, that Ghost is a RHD. He's not, he plays RD but is left handed. Again, you're clueless.

The second overall pick is not almost guaranteed to be a cornerstone player. Again, Yakupov, Murray, Strome etc. And I don't talk as though mid-firsts are guaranteed to be NHL players; you fail to recognize the fact that there are two mid-firsts. Teams wanting to hedge their bets and get two quality players can trade down vice taking the chance to get one very skilled player but it turn out to be a Yakupov.

14 Apr 2018 23:52:15
"Yo 1st off you need to understand that they call it a draft (lottery) for a reason! " No sh*t Sherlock, but it makes it way more difficult to propose a trade with %7.5 chance of the 3rd overall pick etc. It would be impossible to propose a trade otherwise so we assume the draft lottery plays out like the percentages indicate.

As to your last paragraph, I base mine off the value of draft picks by Scott Cullen at TSN and Stats Sports Consulting. My proposed trade of PHI-OTT is below:

Cullen:
2nd overall: 7.79

14th overall: 5.25
19th overall: 4.44

Even without Morin and Vecchione, it's technically overpayment.

SCS:
2nd overall: 871

14th overall: 456
19th overall: 364

Morin and Vecchione certainly bridge the 51 point gap.

"Get real and start basing returns on their players and assets with actually value not your own messed up thoughts on how they aren't worth equal value to their other team equivalents"

Who has the messed up thoughts? You're clueless.

15 Apr 2018 16:17:23
14th and 19th pick have what? A 30 to 35% chance at best of making a real impact in the nhl and not just being role players. They are very rare.
Top 10 have a 50 to 65% chance of making that impact while top 5 are between 70 and 85% which is all but a guarrenteed they'll be something.
This is the equivalent of trading Erik karlsson for yannik Weber and Ben Ryan. who you ask? Exactly my point, it's a trade no-one in there right mind would even consider.

If ottawa had any intention of moving that pick, especially not knowing if it'll turn into the 1st or not and I'm not saying they should because I wouldn't, it would be the islanders who would have the best shot at landing it.

Nyi : both 1sts they own (8th and 10th overall), the rights to Tavares

Ott : Ottawa's 1st (top 5 overall no matter what but best projected at 1 or 2), and either gaborik, Smith, and burrows or Ryan, and gaborik.

Islanders take the risk at 1 or 2 by giving 2 top 10 with the lowest odds at number 1 plus the rights to a superstar who refuses to resign with them and might very well refuse ottawa too and taking on 2 big cap hits one (ryan) who is still a good threat offensively for reasons I've stated in the past.

Ottawa loses its best chance at dahlin but gains 2 more slight chances to move up in a weak draft year and a shot to sign Tavares before anyone else talks to him all while dumping 2 huge contracts which would free the money needed to sign Tavares as well as EK and stone.

Trade value of draft picks example I have off the top of my head is the 2008 draft class when ottawa traded the 17th overall pick plus a 3rd round pick that year to move up just 2 spots to 15th and draft Erik karlsson.
keep in mind that no-one at that point in time could have ever imagined that EK would go on to become the best defenceman in the world.
But a trade for a pick only 2 spots higher costed them a 3rd on top of theirs for a pick that wasn't even top 10.
Trades like this happen every single year and thus if the 15th is worth that much then 1 or 2 with most definitely be worth a whole lot more

15 Apr 2018 16:39:31
If you’re offered to Role the dice between- Tyler Seguin, Gabriel Landeskog, Ryan Murray, Alexander Barkov, Sam Rienhart, Jack Eichel, Patrick Liane and Nolan Patrick or a package of Ghost and Simmonds. I’m rolling the dice especially considering Svechnikov is much more Hyped then Rienhart, Murray and probably Patrick.

15 Apr 2018 16:54:56
Firstly, I doubt Svechnikov is more hyped than Reinhart, Murray, and Patrick. There's a recency effect at play; we only remember Reinhart now that he's underwhelmed rather than remembering his pre-draft hype.

Secondly, I didn't propose Simmonds and Ghost for X player. However, Ghost is better than at least half of your list and that doesn't include Simmonds.

15 Apr 2018 16:59:20
NoBiasRambo:

Your Ottawa trade is massive overpayment by the Islanders. Do me a favour and post that in its own thread.

Where did you come up with those numbers in the start of your post? ie the 30-35%, 50-65%, and 70-85% chance? Let me guess - these are your own messed up thoughts.

"This is the equivalent of trading Erik karlsson for yannik Weber and Ben Ryan. who you ask? Exactly my point, it's a trade no-one in there right mind would even consider. "

This is the most idiotic statement I've read on here in a while and is not at all what I suggested. I proposed trading draft picks, not NHL players. There's a massive difference between trading upcoming draft picks and real NHL players, especially veterans like the ones you cited. No sane person proposes trades of veteran players based on their draft position. Give your head a shake.

15 Apr 2018 23:24:13
How on earth is that possibly an over payment from the islanders easy e? Like get real dude!

Tavares and Josh Bailey will not be back in New York next season. frees up over 12 million which is more than enough to take on either of those packages. Ryan provides some of the scoring they'll miss from JT as well. and any of the top 3 PICKS are and always have been worth at least 2 top 5 to 10 picks. if it ends up being 1st overall this year with dahlin as the prize then that alone is worth everything they gave up just based on his hype alone. outside the top 5 this is a very weak draft class as well. ottawa is basically hoping one of those picks breaks in to top 3 via lottery odds if anything.

16 Apr 2018 00:52:37
I’ll definitely take Landeskog, Seguin, Eichel, Liane and Barkov over Ghost. I’ll even roll the dice on Patrick watching him play I think he has tremendous potential.

02 Apr 2018 09:06:34
Okay so obviously mtl needs a good center. Ok maybe getting a real 70 point number one center is not realistic without dealing Carey Price or Pacioretty +++ but maybe a good #2 center who gets 55+ points like an O'Reilly type. he's still young too, so it fits. I prefer Granlund though and he's only 26. So maybe:

Mtl: Gallagher, Lekonen, 2 rd 2018

Wild: Granlund

02 Apr 2018 16:20:14
No thanks. Sign a center or tank for 3 years and draft one.

02 Apr 2018 19:09:00
Can’t see Montreal giving that up.

02 Apr 2018 19:52:52
Granlund isn’t a Center anymore.

02 Apr 2018 23:53:23
Gallagher having a his best year but i doubt he gets 30 goals next year.

03 Apr 2018 04:40:01
Gallagher isn't measured just in goals. But, I can see 30 again. more likely a 25 goal man. in this day, that's really good., and all the other aspects of hos game make him more valuable than just goals.

13 Mar 2018 14:43:05
I thought I'd propose something unconventional rather than another RNH for Pacioretty/Faulk etc.
Assuming Arizona and Montreal get 1st and 5th overall in this year's draft and that OEL really does want to stay, what would it take for the Habs to get Dahlin? (I know he's not being traded). Montreal has four second round picks this year.

Montreal: 2018 1st overall (Dahlin)

Arizona: 2018 5th overall, 2019 1st (unprotected), Montreal 2018 2nd Round, Chicago 2018 2nd Round, Toronto 2018 2nd Round

Arizona selects one of Boqvist (unlikely), Wilde, Hughes, Bouchard, Dobson

13 Mar 2018 16:18:46
Montreal could take boqvist at 5th and save all those picks it's too much for me but I'm sure arizona would want similar to this. Looks something like the lindros trade where philly probably would have been better off keeping forsberg.

13 Mar 2018 16:26:53
Ummm noooo wtf.

13 Mar 2018 16:27:50
Montreal would have to offwr way more.

13 Mar 2018 18:03:10
Yikes man Montreal would have to offer way more than that if they want Dahlin.

13 Mar 2018 18:09:59
I think it's a little to much for Dahlin. the 2019 unprotected first is what lost me in this proposal. Unless Montreal does something fairly big in the off season, or Droiun, Price and Weber can all have way better seasons, I see this team being in lottery contention next year as well.

13 Mar 2018 19:21:47
As I said before, Dahlin is in a class of his own. he's a Matthews value esque player. Boqvist will be good, but he's not close to Dahlin rn, and a couple 2nds doesn't make up the gap.

13 Mar 2018 19:28:51
It's not a couple 2nds it's 3 2nds and a first. I'd rather keep the picks there isn't that much difference in the two players.

13 Mar 2018 20:18:14
There isn’t that much difference in the two players?! Lol yes there is.

One guy is a good Dman with who has managed 1 pt in 15 games in the top Swedish division before being demoted and having 2 pts in 7 games. He has climbed the rankings and I get that points isn’t everything, but when you’re talking about a top pick who is supposed to be an offensive Dman, they matter.

Dahlin has been on everyone’s radar for 3-4 years as the guaranteed top pick. Playing in the world juniors at 16 and been in Sweden’s top division since 16 and at a .50 pts per game pace. Already at 6’1 and 175 pound and getting bigger. Scouts reports say he’s so far beyond where Karlsson was at the same time in his development that the sky’s the limit for the kid.

l. You don’t think there’s a big gap in those two player? But RNH has a long way to go to close that gap on Drouin, right? Hahaha come on. That’s like saying there wasn’t that big of a gap between mcdavid at 1 and Marner at 4. Or Matthews at 1 ans pulijarvi at 4. Ummm ya there was lol.

13 Mar 2018 20:55:01
Don't use logic Jim. They just don't understand. They have their homer biased blinders on at all times. There's just no point. They even disregard legit facts and stats and call it BS. It's hilarious.

13 Mar 2018 22:53:44
Yeah I know lol I just can’t believe a guy can say there isn’t much difference between Dahlin and a kid ranked 5th tho lol the entire scouting staff for 31 NHL teaam disagree, along with every analyst and writer I’ve seen mention it, but we should all take Habbys word for it haha.

13 Mar 2018 23:36:29
Jim did I say there was a big difference in rnh and drouin? No that's just more of your B. S like always. I wouldn't give up 3 2nds and a 1st to jump up 4 spots. The difference in boqvist and dahlen isn't that much to me.

13 Mar 2018 23:36:52
Couldn't care less if you take my word for it or not lol.

13 Mar 2018 23:57:15
If they both become top pair dmen like they are projected to become by all those scouts you mentioned. And you also manage to get a25 to 30 goal scorer with the other 1st next year which isn't crazy to think cause like Sosa said it could be a lottery pick. and let's just say only one of those 3 2nds turn into a full time nhler. Does that close the gap? Maybe not in your mind but it does in mind. i'd rather have roman josi filip forsberg and ryan Ellis over eric karrlson on my team any day.

14 Mar 2018 12:18:25
Yeah and Gilbert Bruce was projected as a top centre 5 spots behind Crosby who was a can’t miss centre who was the consensus 1st for years like Dahlin. And Ryan stein was a top centre prospect 2 picks after mcdavid who was a can’t miss. Rusty Olesz was a projected top line LW 6 spots behind ovi who was a can’t miss winger. Now there’s also Blake wheeler who is great as a winger in that range behind ovi too, but the point is here’s a big difference between a can’t miss #1 overall and a guy that you could get in the same position a pick later. Dahlin isn’t just a typical good player with a lot of potential like every 1st rounder every year. He’s the best projected befense prospect in a cpl decades. That’s referred to as generational. I’m just waiting for if the habs win the pick and you say you wouldn’t trade it for mcdavid and 2 1sts.

14 Mar 2018 13:19:07
I personally rather draft Boqvist. Has a different kjnd of play for a defense, never goes after puck just body while in his zone which is what your suppose to do but I still see NHL.

even good ones always going for the damn puck when defending. Boqvist is really good at the defense side of things and also has offensive potential and scouts think hell be an offensive defense man in the nhl. I also Like Bouchard and Whalstrom both good winger that could be available at number 5.

14 Mar 2018 15:11:31
Alexander diagle was just as hyped. What's your point? Jim just try and win an argument without twisting my words around. I know dahlin is the best prospect in this years draft. do you think your the only one who knows that or something? but that's doesn't mean he will be the next lidstrom. trading 5 picks with two of them possibly being lottery picks is too much for me to give up. When I'm almost gaurenteed to get a solid nhl player at 5th. if you don't agree with that just say so. You don't have to make up B. S and twist my words to try and prove your point. and colt I'd rather have dahlin but boqvist is pretty good.

14 Mar 2018 15:16:37
Colt bouchard is a defenseman.

14 Mar 2018 19:31:54
I’m not the only one that knows Dahlin is the best player in the draft. That’s Exactly my point. You have this hot take that him and Boqvist aren’t that far apart. I’m well aware that the entire hockey industry identified Dahlin as far and away the best prospect. And daigle was a top pick. He was not called a generational player like the examples I used. Not at all. He was the top choice by the majority of people but even then, there were people who had said they would have taken Pronger 1st. I don't remember people making that arguement for Bobby Ryan or jack Johnson over Sid, or Eichel, strome or hanifin over mcdavid. It just doesn’t happen. These kids are the guaranteed pick for 2-3 seasons before their draft for a reason. Because the field is far in their rear view, like Boqvist is in Dahlins.

14 Mar 2018 20:15:15
Habby so you’re saying olli Joulevi and 3 2nds for Mathews is to much? Or Noah Hanfin and 3 2nds for McDavid is to much?

14 Mar 2018 21:57:23
Nylander its 2 1st one being a lottery pick and the other unless there are some big changes in montreal this year possibly another lottery pick and 3 2nds. For me that's to much for the difference in an elite prospect and a really really good prospect. next years pick could be 1st overall too and dahlin or boqvist will probably not do enough to change that as early as next year.

14 Mar 2018 22:10:33
@Nylander, it’s 3 2nds and a Future 1st. But still, he apparently doesn’t think Dahlin is generational talent, which is fine, it’s his opinion, but he will make it seem like you and everyone else in hockey, including people who are actually paid big bucks to know this stuff, are wrong for thinking he’s as good as everyone says. That’s a big price to pay, but that doesn’t mean it’s an overpayment. But if habs win the lottery there will be no price too steep for him. Just the way it is. We will be reading in ‘NHL Talk’ all next year:

“What a great game again by Dahlin”

“2 more points for Canadiens tonight! ”

“Dahlin for Norris? ”.

14 Mar 2018 22:14:10
@ biased jim you may not recall 1993 as we'll as I do but even considering the lack of social media as compared to today alexander diagle was super hyped. Hardly anyone had pronger at number 1 and even that should show you what I've been saying. Pronger a guy who probably would have went down in history as one of the top 5 or 10 blue liners of all time had it not been for injuries in the later part of his career was passed over by a hyped player at the draft. now before you try to twist my words again I'll be the first one to say if I got a choice at this draft I take dahlin hands down without even thinking about it. But if the price to move up is those two first and 3 2nds I'm staying at 5th. 5 th overall and 3 2nds i do. But I'm not giving up next years 1st if I'm the habs.

14 Mar 2018 23:41:27
I never said daigle wasn’t hyped lol I said he was the 1st pick by the majority of ppl. I said he was never called the generational talent like Crosby, mcdavid or even Matthews have been. Dahlin has been the most hyped D prospect in a long long time. Even more than ekblad who had exceptional player status in junior like mcdavid Tavares and lindros. Daigle was not the highest touted winger prospect of a decade or more, regardless of how you remember the pre social media world.

15 Mar 2018 01:51:12
and i'm saying yes he was hyped the same as those guys. "could be the best player in the game in 2 years" "destined for greatness" all these things were said about him too as these are actual quotes from scouts. I guess I didn't get my last comment in in time to beat you from twisting my words again.

15 Mar 2018 01:56:08
And for the third time it's this years 1st 5th overall and next years 1st unprotected and 3 2nds.

15 Mar 2018 03:54:08
Nobody forgets what the package was, nylander made a mistake hours Ago lol we know it’s 2 1sts and 3 2nds. No one said otherwise since then.

15 Mar 2018 04:02:59
Well in your last comment you left out the current 1st. Biased jim you have too much time on your hands man logging In and out just to click agree on your posts and disagree on mine lol. Your laughable man.

15 Mar 2018 12:36:33
Haha I’m pretty sure yours has the only agree and mine the only disagree after you posted and clicked it. And I never forgot to mention the current first. I know what the deal is lol you just don’t understand generational talent, which is fine. The closest you have seen to it in Montreal is 2 goalies, one who they pushed out of town and another that’s destined for the same fate. Well and Drouin. He was taken 2 picks behind mackinnon, but I’m sure yzerman thought there was hardly a difference.

15 Mar 2018 15:00:08
A leaf fan talking about generational talent on his team. Now that's hilarious. matthews hasn't done anything near enough yet to be considered generational I mean at least wait till he starts scoring at a point per game pace. If he ever does. Who are all these other generational talent that you have seen first hand? Sundin? Clarke? Lol biased jim even your smart enough to realize if we compare the talent of previous years between the the two teams yours wouldn't have a chance. Come on man generational talent?

15 Mar 2018 17:03:05
I never said leafs had generational talent lol I said you can’t recognoze it apparently. I can see all around the league and the history of hockey to see it. Your view just revolves around one team, which is why I said all you have seen in that category is 2 goalies. And Clarke was phillys captain in the 70s and 80s. Clark was ours in the 90s, but you never saw the name spelt on the back of a habs jersey, so that’s too far outside your comfort zone to know anything about, forgiven.

15 Mar 2018 18:22:50
It was still funny to think a leaf fan like yourself would know anything about generational talent. You should stick to the stuff you do know. I'm not sure what that would be but there has got to be something lol.

15 Mar 2018 18:31:45
And sorry for adding an e to Clark did you have to look through your retired player index to figure out who I was talking about? i mean I just used my brain to figure out who Gilbert Bruce and ryan stein were lol. But I totally understand how the extra E could be confusing for you.

27 Feb 2018 00:23:51
Best trade of the day

Goes to surprinsly MB

Min: Rielly

Myl: 4 rd pick

Can't believe we got this guys for a fourth. Very touted young defensemen in last summer he had trouble with Minnya depth tho.They get a pick for him and Mtl gets a really top 4 possibly. Even if he only fills the bottom still great pick up to tank with

27 Feb 2018 00:49:33
It was a 5th the last I heard. Now you must think it was the best deal since the bruins got phil esposito.

27 Feb 2018 01:42:05
It was a 5th fake Colt. (Goldenshowers) .

27 Feb 2018 03:42:15
I think best trade of the day was Det get a 1 2 and 3 for Tatar. Or Chicago getting a first for Hartman. Reilly isn't that good he's been playing in the AHL. He was hyped out of college but hasn't found his game yet. Can still be something but the shine has faded a bit.

27 Feb 2018 05:04:22
Best trade of the day lol.

27 Feb 2018 13:17:04
That's the most homer biased thing I've heard on here in a long time. Now we all know you're MontrealsFinest.

27 Feb 2018 13:59:03
Lol I was mimicking u Yup ahah.

27 Feb 2018 14:03:37
I've always liked the guy so Idk why it is a surprise that I posted lol. I proposed to give Minny a second for him 2 moths ago.

27 Feb 2018 14:15:17
I highly doubt that Colt is Golden Showers.

27 Feb 2018 14:35:44
Well., this Colt isn't the real Colt., he may not be GoldenShowers, but he reminds of him .

27 Feb 2018 17:00:08
Sosa ypur a hand fan
You know who I am lol u probably watch me play in the 90s if your old enough.

27 Feb 2018 17:45:32
Hahahah. oh here we go. K buddy. yes I'm old enough. what number were ya.

27 Feb 2018 18:24:10
# 5 Alain Cité played 20 ish games in 91.

27 Feb 2018 19:07:56
Lol. Ok.

27 Feb 2018 20:00:26
You spelt your last name wrong Alain.

27 Feb 2018 20:32:02
Meant Coté auto corect.

27 Feb 2018 22:02:57
How are u Sosa.

27 Feb 2018 22:28:48
Oh god. The homer claiming he played for the team. This just getting better and better.
Who was it who was interviewed for the Habs GM spot before MB Lol.

27 Feb 2018 22:53:36
Fine . thanks for asking fake Colt.

27 Feb 2018 22:57:39
I would say buffalo did alright getting a first, prospect and 4th (way less than reported ask) for Evander Kane because GM Botteril came out after saying they basically had to pretend they had more interest to get the price up to that and the sharks were the only team to make an offer at all. Also red wings for Tatar got a boatload.

28 Feb 2018 01:05:32
Thinking the same guy Yup. wow.

28 Feb 2018 09:50:04
I’m assuming you mean Alain Cote (I spell my own name wrong sometimes too. ) you didn’t just play 20 games in 91 for the habs, you played 41 over those 2 seasons in Montreal! You also played in boston, Washington, Tampa bay and Quebec! How was japan when you played there? Did you like it better than your time in Germany?! If you had to pick a favourite country you played in abroad, was it Finland, Germany or Japan? What was your first NHl goal like? What city was it in? Who was your favourite team mate? Have fun at your rookie dinner? Why did you wear #5? That’s a great moustache, was the inspiration Tom selleck or Rollie Fingers?

Google has cut into everyone’s chance to BS people colt lol.

28 Feb 2018 17:30:47
Message Alain cote on Facebook and ask him if he is a visitor of this site. Lol.

28 Feb 2018 19:57:56
Hey Hbbby how are u buddy.

28 Feb 2018 20:30:39
A conditional 1st unbiased Jim, it’s a 2nd if he doesn’t resign I believe?

28 Feb 2018 22:35:17
@ebs, you’re right. I just had to look that up. Thought it was just a first regardless. Also saw that the prospect isn’t really young (24) but a guy who’s had really good AHL numbers and played with Eichel at BU. So not as great of a trade as I thought lol but for an player that no one seemed to wanna get involved with they did better than letting him walk because it was pretty apparent they had zero interest in bringing him back in to their dressing room for next season.

25 Feb 2018 17:41:43
Talks heating up on Pacioretty deal, few teams bidding. LA and the wild are some.

25 Feb 2018 18:08:30
Vilardi hopefully or coyle + 1st something along those lines.

25 Feb 2018 18:13:56
As long as he gets traded by tomorrow, his value is quite high right now.

25 Feb 2018 19:41:59
François Gagnon Said this rumor is only media speculation and that La never made an offer.

25 Feb 2018 21:17:43
Franco is Gagnon also said his daughter was sexy but he's retarded so why based anything off what is said by him.

25 Feb 2018 15:59:59
With the return Rick Nash got, I had a crazy three team trade idea:

Toronto Trades:
(LW) James van Riemsdyk (50% Retained)
(LW) Yegor Korshkov
2018 2nd Round Pick

Florida Trades:
(C) Jared McCann
(RW) Jayce Hawryluk
(LW) Jamie McGinn
2018 1st Round Pick

New York Trades:
(D) Ryan McDonagh
(C) David Desharnais
2018 3rd Round Pick

----

Toronto Acquires:
(D) Ryan McDonagh

Florida Acquires:
(LW) James van Riemsdyk (50% Retained)
(C) David Desharnais
2018 3rd Round Pick

New York Acquires:
(LW) Yegor Korshkov
(C) Jared McCann
(RW) Jayce Hawyrluk
(LW) Jamie McGinn
2018 1st Round Pick
2018 2nd Round Pick

Basically, its like JVR goes to Florida for all that (similar return to what Nash got tbh, McCann Lindgren and Boston 1st, but JVR > Nash imo.

Then Toronto flips all of that, plus the 2nd and Korshkov to New York for McDonagh. And I think that's a very good haul for McDonagh tbh. Three prospects and two picks in the first two rounds.

Believe me. I never in WILDEST dreams thought this would be possible. Seriously, I thought JVR would be worth like a 1st+ a little bit at the deadline. But holy smokes, does the Nash deal change everything. We can agree that JVR is a better player than Nash, and therefore his return should be a bit better. Its just that Toronto needs none of the prospects, so they all get thrown onto NY for something they need - a dman.

Still tho, I think that Toronto wins this deal. Maybe some more from them? Idk.

25 Feb 2018 16:27:06
As a leaf fan i would love this. but they make out like bandits. Florida is the team losing this deal.

25 Feb 2018 16:52:36
Lol yeah. i'm Just tryna jump on the Nash overpay train. Lol.

21 Feb 2018 14:27:20
Wild:
JVR LW
Bozak C
Carrick D
1st 2018

Leafs:
Staal C
Dumba D
2nd 2019

21 Feb 2018 15:49:18
No from No my JVR is overvalued in here.

21 Feb 2018 17:41:27
Minnesota would turn it down.2 pending It as and a 5-6 defenseman for a solid centre and young d-man. . not happening.

16 Feb 2018 18:03:54
To PHX: Jon Gilles and Rasmus Andersson

To CGY: Max Domi and 2018 2nd rounder (Minnesota)

Coyotes get a much needed goalie and defensive prospect and Flames recoup a pick and take a chance on a gritty scoring LW

To MTL: Sam Bennett

To CGY: Andrew Shaw and a 5th round pick

Habs get a young centreman with upside and Flames get a RW with playoff experience

Flames new 3rd line:

Domi - Jankowski- Shaw

16 Feb 2018 21:56:55
Montreal would jump on that trade in a second.

16 Feb 2018 22:08:23
Oh lord huge no from Calgary on the second trade.
As for the first trade tho I think Arizona says no especially if they are adding a 2nd.

16 Feb 2018 22:08:33
But first is interesting!

17 Feb 2018 06:29:12
On the second trade, what if Montreal change the pick to their 2nd rounder?

17 Feb 2018 08:58:43
Like McJesus said definately no from Calgary in the second one but the first is interesting. I could see ARZ being interested in Gilles and Andersson but I think Calgary would need to give up a bit more.

17 Feb 2018 09:48:16
second trade is an no from calgary. but the first one is a starting point.

17 Feb 2018 18:36:47
Shaw is 26 and will be a cap charge of 3.9 for four more years (4,2.25,2.75,1.9) 10.9 in actual dollars. I don't think its a terrible contract, but the four years attached to him is concerning for other teams forsure. If the habs could retain some of his salary it might give him some value tho.

16 Feb 2018 06:51:52
To PHX: Jon Gilles and Rasmus Andersson

To CGY: Max Domi and 2nd rounder (Minnesota)

Coyotes gain a much needed goalie prospect and a shutdown D Man. Flames recover a pick and take a chance on a scoring winger.

Followed by:

To CGY: Andrew Shaw and MTLs 5th rounder

To MTL: Sam Bennett

Habs get a young Centreman with upside. Flames get a gritty RW who can score

New Flames 3rd line

Domi - Jankowski - Shaw

17 Feb 2018 09:49:28
first one a starting point. second is a hell no from calgary.

14 Feb 2018 18:09:59
Oilers need a right hand damn who can play power play. Suggestions:
Oilers: RNH + Benning (maybe + 3rd Rd Pk)
Wild: Coyle + Spurgeon or Dumba
RNH would be a perfect for the wild. Their current centremen: Koivu and stall (both older and trending down, especially koivu) and coyle who is a good 3rd line centre, and EK who is young.
Spurgeon would look great with Sekera. Coyle 3rd centerman after McDavid and Drai.

Another option:
Oilers: Klefbom or RNH
Avs: Barrie
I believe that Avs have some good young right handed dman coming up. Barrie could be on his way out. They could use Klefbom on the left side. Or maybe they could use RNH on the second line after Macinnon. I prefer the Klefbom and Barrie’s swap.

14 Feb 2018 21:16:08
Sorry, Trade 1 Way OTL. None of those Wild players are an upgrade for Edmonton. Benning + 3rd for ONE of those players is probably more realistic.

Trade 2, No RNH but Klefbom for Barrie sounds realistic if the Av's put a high pick in to offset Klefbom's longer term cap friendly contract. or perhaps Edm would be content if the Av's ate 1.4M of Barrie's salary so they cost the same and edm takes the asset loss of the extra years of cap friendly service to fill the RHD need.

14 Feb 2018 22:01:00
So Spurgeon or Dumba are not an upgrade on Benning? Go and search the players playing time and stats, and then decide. Oilers need a power play dman.

14 Feb 2018 22:19:53
Pretty good. I think the RNH for Barrie one is pretty close. I think oilers might have to add a bit to klefbom just based on recent play, I think his value has taken a bit of a hit. Although 5 more years of control on klefbom at 4.1 mill vs 2 more years at 5.5 for Barrie may be enough to balance that out.

14 Feb 2018 22:24:58
You’re ridiculous FT4A. So Carrick plus a 3rd gets a top 4 dman or top 9 power forward? Or does it only work for Oiler players? How are these players not an upgrade for Edmonton? Please explain.

14 Feb 2018 22:30:40
Both defenseman are better offensively than anyone on the Oiler roster. Spurgeon or Dumba would fit nice on the Oiler blue line. Get your head out of your ass and realize they are bottom feeders in need for a change. A few very talented players, yes. After that you don’t have much of an argument.

14 Feb 2018 23:14:57
Jeez leafs why so angry
But ya if Edmonton could trade for Dumba that would be lit.

14 Feb 2018 23:20:38
I don’t think the aves would be interested in RNH, they have McKinnon and next year Jost. I’d say they have a pretty good 1-2 punch now and Hopkins is expensive 3rd liner. Value wise it’s pretty good just don’t see the need for aves. Also I’m positive I’m not the only one thinking this but LBRN needs to get a clue! You’re such a oilers homer it’s crazy.

I understand you’re a oilers fan and no one wants to see their team lose a trade but your opinions are just ridiculous! You need to stop watching hockey if you think that Benning and a 3rd will be you dumba or Spurgeon.

14 Feb 2018 23:30:34
RNH > Coyle
Benning + 3rd.

14 Feb 2018 23:31:00
Personally I think the left hand versus right hand defenseman argument is overrated one of the best defensive teams in NHL history had 5 left-handed defenseman in one right handed guy who was a spare part.

14 Feb 2018 23:33:38
Benning + pick / add for any ONE of the Wild players mentioned is a reasonable parallel trade. All those wild players are pretty average at best, but so is Benning.

Unfortunately as soon as you try to name RNH in the trade the VETO / Abort button lights up and gets hit. You will have to name a different player in the trade other than him.

As explained in a previous post that it seems mr/ ms Leafs17 for some reason still can't grasp the concept of is he is a core piece that plays hard minutes in all the difficult situations, is long term signed, is a fan favorite, is only 24 with 441 games of experience already.

Most importantly. The GM would probably lose his job trading him as he is on VERY thin ice over the Eberle asset liquidation last year. The teammates, GM, and coaching staff are all on record emphasizing how valuable RNH is to the team so throwing him in for a few average players back won't cut it.
It is doubtful he will get traded unless an elite #1 D-man is dangled of which Barrie, Spergeon, and Dumba are definitely not.


Trade 2

Oilers with the big $$ signings last year can't take on a Salary increase next season, so Barrie retention, or 2nd roster player (s) to offset the salary difference would need to be in the Klefbom for Barrie deal. This does sound like a realistic trade that might need a minor tweak.

I agree that Klefbom's poor play has diminished his value.

14 Feb 2018 23:44:28
Sorry McJ, FT4A has been trolling for too long. This is the same guy that values every oilers player above and beyond anyone in the league. Hopkins and Benning would require Karlsson just to get the conversation started.

15 Feb 2018 04:01:20
Who is FT4A? Leafs17, you got the wrong guy. How am I over valuing the oilers in this trade?
Plus, what the hell do u mean with your comments about karlson? I’m sorry man but you are making no sense here.

15 Feb 2018 04:14:32
Spurgeon and Dumba not being an upgrade on Benning is officially the dumbest argument of the week! Unbelievable. And yes leafs17, this is the same guy who said only way RNH could end up in Ottawa is if it was for Karlsson!

15 Feb 2018 05:12:23
FT4A/ let's be real now lost all credibility with that nonsense last year when Karlsson was a top 5 player in the league. Now he’s just making sure the credibility never has a chance to return.

15 Feb 2018 07:15:34
Sorry Oil fan, my comments were towards Let’s Be Real Now (FT4A) . Your proposals were ok. FT4A changed his name but still spews the same garbage. The veto comment is exactly the way FT4A would speak.

15 Feb 2018 14:11:54
Oh! Thanks for the clarification. Appreciate it!

15 Feb 2018 16:11:29
Not sure what an FT4A is. ? Is that special code for something?

Sorry if there is a disagreement from the Eastern biased peanut gallery over this, but realistically that trade won't go. Benning + pick for one of those players is a decent realistic trade. Trade listed improves Minni, but Edmonton loses big time overall.

If RNH is going to be moved, I suspect it would be a 2 or 3 asset by Edmonton for 1 asset back type deal netting a #1 Dman or 1st line player to compliment McD. Not for 2nd pair / 3rd liners. Edmonton already is loaded with those types of players.

15 Feb 2018 20:08:42
Wild and avalanche say no.

15 Feb 2018 23:28:54
So how is coyle/ Dumba/ Spurgeon not worth more then rnh they actually play for a winning team and have staal granlund koivu sucker suter praise nino (not attempting that last name) and still put up good stats. Edmonton sucks they have Mcdavid and drai but drai is way overrated imo so keep your garbage nobody wants em you will draft high again and lose because you’re a horribly managed team.

16 Feb 2018 00:14:31
FT4A is the name you used to use and aren’t man enough to admit it. You know this big guy. And yes, madeindade, chirello will just f it up anyway. Sit back and watch the show.

13 Feb 2018 03:51:20
Minnesota
Brodin
3rd

Montreal
Pacioretty
5thround pick.

13 Feb 2018 05:27:59
And you’re a habs fan? Montreal wants more and doesn’t want that. Well I’m sure they do but not the return they seek for patches.

13 Feb 2018 06:24:58
Helllllll nooooooo.

12 Feb 2018 21:34:23
Just a wild thought.

Montreal trades
Patches
Toronto trades
Bracco, Nielsson and 2 2nd in 2018

Toronto trades
Gardiner
New Jersey trade
Mccloud and 2nd in 2018

Toronto trades
Komorov
Colorado trades
3rd 2018

Waive Martin

12 Feb 2018 22:31:28
Don’t need a scoring winger in patches. That’s actually the last position leafs need help with, they actually have so much depth there that they already have guys asking for trades out.

You don’t trade a good top 4 Dmen for futures when you are entering the playoffs with a young team and you have no one for sure ready to assume that role.

Leafs are going to have to play Boston and/ or Tampa in best of 7 game series. We have loads of talent, but not many guys that are really hard to play against up front. If the return for a great penalty killing, hard nosed veteran forward who has played almost 20 minutes a night multiple times this season again teams top lines is a 3rd rounder, why the hell would you trade him?! Komarov has to stay unless a team that feels they’re a depth forward away from a cup wants to really over pay.

Waiving martin accomplishes nothing, Because his cap stays on the books anyway and no one will claim him.

13 Feb 2018 00:59:02
Why waive Martin tho.

13 Feb 2018 02:55:11
Hell no from mtl.

13 Feb 2018 18:26:30
Montreal hangs up the phone. after they are done laughing.

13 Feb 2018 21:35:37
Wow balsam, you didn’t even insult Marleau in that one. You’re growing lol.

14 Feb 2018 00:27:00
balsam only replies to leaf posts and it’s always something negative. It’s sad that the leafs have such terrible players yet do so well eh balsy?

12 Feb 2018 20:22:44
Marc bergevin has been seen with Chuck Fletcher this week and the wild is pushing for the playoffs so:

Mtl : Pacioretty, 2nd round pick, Daniel Carr
Min : Eriksson Ek, Olofsson, 1st round pick, 4th round pick

12 Feb 2018 20:58:59
If mtl don't trade this for Patches I would get mad. But it's also a risk because Erickson sign doing hot this year. He's should still be a top 6 tho that gets 50+ points. If so that would be more then fair.

12 Feb 2018 21:08:31
I think Coyle would be what Habs are interested in.

12 Feb 2018 21:44:51
Sosahabs, personally I would prefer Eriksson as I hope for a rebuild rather than a quick turn around.

12 Feb 2018 22:51:42
Couple is too old. If we're trading patches sits for a guy LIKE Erickson.

13 Feb 2018 11:28:50
So why would the wild do that? They have no cap space and giving up young players is stupid! And coyle is worth probably Pacioretty.

09 Feb 2018 11:13:31
Idea:

2018 1st Round Draft Pick + Josh Leivo + Nikita Soshnikov + Roman Polak to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for Niklas Hjalmarsson + Brad Richardson.

- Leivo will get a chance to play in Zona 100%. He could possibly be a top line/ second liner on a bad team, however, if he looks good, he could be a pretty good add-in. I've always rooted for him as a Leaf fan, and in the right oppurtunity, I thi k he's a 30+ point man. Sosh is a wild card, but is most likely going to end up as a gritty 10 point guy. Lol.

- Hjalmarsson fits into everything Toronto needs. Tough, stay at home blueliner with cup experience. he's the perfect blueliner. Richardson hasn't done much, and with his contract, he's maybe worth a 4th at the deadline. However, he's an upgrade on Dominic Moore imo.

And honestly, if Patches' value is a 1st + a prospect + a roster body, I would think Hjalmarsson's would be less. And imo, this is what it would take.

Lineup:
Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Mitch Marner
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Bozak - Connor Brown
Leo Komarov - Brad Richardson - Kasperi Kapanen

Ron Hainsey - Jake Gardiner
Niklas Hjalmarsson - Morgan Rielly
Nikita Zaitsev - Travis Dermott

This actually looks like a really, really well balanced team. And Hjalmarsson is signed on for 2018/ 19 as well.

09 Feb 2018 14:13:38
Not too bad. I’m just reluctant to give up a first round pick in a deal for a defenseman unless it’s a 27 minute+, do everything horse. Not that a first will get that guy, but that we could do a package to get him including prospects and picks. This definitely makes us more prepared for the Bruins and lightning without losing anything but Polak off the current roster which is good. I’m neutral on it which means I must think it’s pretty fair. Just not my ideal fit.

09 Feb 2018 16:16:37
Be surprised if hjalmarson gets that much, he was pretty much straight across for Connor Murphy, then has not had a good year, plus missed more games this year then the rest of his career combined. Don't think he'd get a first anyway.

04 Feb 2018 02:26:16
Minesota: Erickson,Dumbs

Mtl: Weber

Mtl gets a very good center prospect and a younger defensemen and wild gets one of the best defensemen in the league regardless of age

04 Feb 2018 04:20:42
I like Weber alot. I just hate his long term contract. I think the GM of my fav team is only idiot that would save another team from it. like he did to Nashville. so. Can't see it. no one is going to do Habs a favour.

04 Feb 2018 13:58:04
Minny already has Sutter and Parise contracts. No chance they want Webers as well.

04 Feb 2018 02:04:34
St Louis: Thomas

Wild:Saumur

St Louis gets a big 6,4" center who is not scared of going in the corners and wiis gets a more offensive center prospect who maybe not has as much upside as Saumur but is more safe.Is this fair?

04 Feb 2018 17:36:43
Who the hell is, Saumur?

30 Jan 2018 02:12:55
Min: Pax, byron

Mtl: coyle, ennis, 2nd becomes 1st in they reach conference finals, 3rd

why min gets top 6 forward more scoring punch and speed in byron can play anywhere in line up, save cap

mtl moves on and gets a centre opportunity to play a bigger role could work out

30 Jan 2018 06:07:25
This is interesting but can’t see minny doing it tbh.

 
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