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16 Feb 2018 18:03:54
To PHX: Jon Gilles and Rasmus Andersson

To CGY: Max Domi and 2018 2nd rounder (Minnesota)

Coyotes get a much needed goalie and defensive prospect and Flames recoup a pick and take a chance on a gritty scoring LW

To MTL: Sam Bennett

To CGY: Andrew Shaw and a 5th round pick

Habs get a young centreman with upside and Flames get a RW with playoff experience

Flames new 3rd line:

Domi - Jankowski- Shaw

16 Feb 2018 21:56:55
Montreal would jump on that trade in a second.

16 Feb 2018 22:08:23
Oh lord huge no from Calgary on the second trade.
As for the first trade tho I think Arizona says no especially if they are adding a 2nd.

16 Feb 2018 22:08:33
But first is interesting!

17 Feb 2018 06:29:12
On the second trade, what if Montreal change the pick to their 2nd rounder?

17 Feb 2018 08:58:43
Like McJesus said definately no from Calgary in the second one but the first is interesting. I could see ARZ being interested in Gilles and Andersson but I think Calgary would need to give up a bit more.

17 Feb 2018 09:48:16
second trade is an no from calgary. but the first one is a starting point.

17 Feb 2018 18:36:47
Shaw is 26 and will be a cap charge of 3.9 for four more years (4,2.25,2.75,1.9) 10.9 in actual dollars. I don't think its a terrible contract, but the four years attached to him is concerning for other teams forsure. If the habs could retain some of his salary it might give him some value tho.

16 Feb 2018 06:51:52
To PHX: Jon Gilles and Rasmus Andersson

To CGY: Max Domi and 2nd rounder (Minnesota)

Coyotes gain a much needed goalie prospect and a shutdown D Man. Flames recover a pick and take a chance on a scoring winger.

Followed by:

To CGY: Andrew Shaw and MTLs 5th rounder

To MTL: Sam Bennett

Habs get a young Centreman with upside. Flames get a gritty RW who can score

New Flames 3rd line

Domi - Jankowski - Shaw

17 Feb 2018 09:49:28
first one a starting point. second is a hell no from calgary.

14 Feb 2018 18:09:59
Oilers need a right hand damn who can play power play. Suggestions:
Oilers: RNH + Benning (maybe + 3rd Rd Pk)
Wild: Coyle + Spurgeon or Dumba
RNH would be a perfect for the wild. Their current centremen: Koivu and stall (both older and trending down, especially koivu) and coyle who is a good 3rd line centre, and EK who is young.
Spurgeon would look great with Sekera. Coyle 3rd centerman after McDavid and Drai.

Another option:
Oilers: Klefbom or RNH
Avs: Barrie
I believe that Avs have some good young right handed dman coming up. Barrie could be on his way out. They could use Klefbom on the left side. Or maybe they could use RNH on the second line after Macinnon. I prefer the Klefbom and Barrie’s swap.

14 Feb 2018 21:16:08
Sorry, Trade 1 Way OTL. None of those Wild players are an upgrade for Edmonton. Benning + 3rd for ONE of those players is probably more realistic.

Trade 2, No RNH but Klefbom for Barrie sounds realistic if the Av's put a high pick in to offset Klefbom's longer term cap friendly contract. or perhaps Edm would be content if the Av's ate 1.4M of Barrie's salary so they cost the same and edm takes the asset loss of the extra years of cap friendly service to fill the RHD need.

14 Feb 2018 22:01:00
So Spurgeon or Dumba are not an upgrade on Benning? Go and search the players playing time and stats, and then decide. Oilers need a power play dman.

14 Feb 2018 22:19:53
Pretty good. I think the RNH for Barrie one is pretty close. I think oilers might have to add a bit to klefbom just based on recent play, I think his value has taken a bit of a hit. Although 5 more years of control on klefbom at 4.1 mill vs 2 more years at 5.5 for Barrie may be enough to balance that out.

14 Feb 2018 22:24:58
You’re ridiculous FT4A. So Carrick plus a 3rd gets a top 4 dman or top 9 power forward? Or does it only work for Oiler players? How are these players not an upgrade for Edmonton? Please explain.

14 Feb 2018 22:30:40
Both defenseman are better offensively than anyone on the Oiler roster. Spurgeon or Dumba would fit nice on the Oiler blue line. Get your head out of your ass and realize they are bottom feeders in need for a change. A few very talented players, yes. After that you don’t have much of an argument.

14 Feb 2018 23:14:57
Jeez leafs why so angry
But ya if Edmonton could trade for Dumba that would be lit.

14 Feb 2018 23:20:38
I don’t think the aves would be interested in RNH, they have McKinnon and next year Jost. I’d say they have a pretty good 1-2 punch now and Hopkins is expensive 3rd liner. Value wise it’s pretty good just don’t see the need for aves. Also I’m positive I’m not the only one thinking this but LBRN needs to get a clue! You’re such a oilers homer it’s crazy.

I understand you’re a oilers fan and no one wants to see their team lose a trade but your opinions are just ridiculous! You need to stop watching hockey if you think that Benning and a 3rd will be you dumba or Spurgeon.

14 Feb 2018 23:30:34
RNH > Coyle
Benning + 3rd.

14 Feb 2018 23:31:00
Personally I think the left hand versus right hand defenseman argument is overrated one of the best defensive teams in NHL history had 5 left-handed defenseman in one right handed guy who was a spare part.

14 Feb 2018 23:33:38
Benning + pick / add for any ONE of the Wild players mentioned is a reasonable parallel trade. All those wild players are pretty average at best, but so is Benning.

Unfortunately as soon as you try to name RNH in the trade the VETO / Abort button lights up and gets hit. You will have to name a different player in the trade other than him.

As explained in a previous post that it seems mr/ ms Leafs17 for some reason still can't grasp the concept of is he is a core piece that plays hard minutes in all the difficult situations, is long term signed, is a fan favorite, is only 24 with 441 games of experience already.

Most importantly. The GM would probably lose his job trading him as he is on VERY thin ice over the Eberle asset liquidation last year. The teammates, GM, and coaching staff are all on record emphasizing how valuable RNH is to the team so throwing him in for a few average players back won't cut it.
It is doubtful he will get traded unless an elite #1 D-man is dangled of which Barrie, Spergeon, and Dumba are definitely not.


Trade 2

Oilers with the big $$ signings last year can't take on a Salary increase next season, so Barrie retention, or 2nd roster player (s) to offset the salary difference would need to be in the Klefbom for Barrie deal. This does sound like a realistic trade that might need a minor tweak.

I agree that Klefbom's poor play has diminished his value.

14 Feb 2018 23:44:28
Sorry McJ, FT4A has been trolling for too long. This is the same guy that values every oilers player above and beyond anyone in the league. Hopkins and Benning would require Karlsson just to get the conversation started.

15 Feb 2018 04:01:20
Who is FT4A? Leafs17, you got the wrong guy. How am I over valuing the oilers in this trade?
Plus, what the hell do u mean with your comments about karlson? I’m sorry man but you are making no sense here.

15 Feb 2018 04:14:32
Spurgeon and Dumba not being an upgrade on Benning is officially the dumbest argument of the week! Unbelievable. And yes leafs17, this is the same guy who said only way RNH could end up in Ottawa is if it was for Karlsson!

15 Feb 2018 05:12:23
FT4A/ let's be real now lost all credibility with that nonsense last year when Karlsson was a top 5 player in the league. Now he’s just making sure the credibility never has a chance to return.

15 Feb 2018 07:15:34
Sorry Oil fan, my comments were towards Let’s Be Real Now (FT4A) . Your proposals were ok. FT4A changed his name but still spews the same garbage. The veto comment is exactly the way FT4A would speak.

15 Feb 2018 14:11:54
Oh! Thanks for the clarification. Appreciate it!

15 Feb 2018 16:11:29
Not sure what an FT4A is. ? Is that special code for something?

Sorry if there is a disagreement from the Eastern biased peanut gallery over this, but realistically that trade won't go. Benning + pick for one of those players is a decent realistic trade. Trade listed improves Minni, but Edmonton loses big time overall.

If RNH is going to be moved, I suspect it would be a 2 or 3 asset by Edmonton for 1 asset back type deal netting a #1 Dman or 1st line player to compliment McD. Not for 2nd pair / 3rd liners. Edmonton already is loaded with those types of players.

15 Feb 2018 20:08:42
Wild and avalanche say no.

15 Feb 2018 23:28:54
So how is coyle/ Dumba/ Spurgeon not worth more then rnh they actually play for a winning team and have staal granlund koivu sucker suter praise nino (not attempting that last name) and still put up good stats. Edmonton sucks they have Mcdavid and drai but drai is way overrated imo so keep your garbage nobody wants em you will draft high again and lose because you’re a horribly managed team.

16 Feb 2018 00:14:31
FT4A is the name you used to use and aren’t man enough to admit it. You know this big guy. And yes, madeindade, chirello will just f it up anyway. Sit back and watch the show.

13 Feb 2018 03:51:20
Minnesota
Brodin
3rd

Montreal
Pacioretty
5thround pick.

13 Feb 2018 05:27:59
And you’re a habs fan? Montreal wants more and doesn’t want that. Well I’m sure they do but not the return they seek for patches.

13 Feb 2018 06:24:58
Helllllll nooooooo.

12 Feb 2018 21:34:23
Just a wild thought.

Montreal trades
Patches
Toronto trades
Bracco, Nielsson and 2 2nd in 2018

Toronto trades
Gardiner
New Jersey trade
Mccloud and 2nd in 2018

Toronto trades
Komorov
Colorado trades
3rd 2018

Waive Martin

12 Feb 2018 22:31:28
Don’t need a scoring winger in patches. That’s actually the last position leafs need help with, they actually have so much depth there that they already have guys asking for trades out.

You don’t trade a good top 4 Dmen for futures when you are entering the playoffs with a young team and you have no one for sure ready to assume that role.

Leafs are going to have to play Boston and/ or Tampa in best of 7 game series. We have loads of talent, but not many guys that are really hard to play against up front. If the return for a great penalty killing, hard nosed veteran forward who has played almost 20 minutes a night multiple times this season again teams top lines is a 3rd rounder, why the hell would you trade him?! Komarov has to stay unless a team that feels they’re a depth forward away from a cup wants to really over pay.

Waiving martin accomplishes nothing, Because his cap stays on the books anyway and no one will claim him.

13 Feb 2018 00:59:02
Why waive Martin tho.

13 Feb 2018 02:55:11
Hell no from mtl.

13 Feb 2018 18:26:30
Montreal hangs up the phone. after they are done laughing.

13 Feb 2018 21:35:37
Wow balsam, you didn’t even insult Marleau in that one. You’re growing lol.

14 Feb 2018 00:27:00
balsam only replies to leaf posts and it’s always something negative. It’s sad that the leafs have such terrible players yet do so well eh balsy?

12 Feb 2018 20:22:44
Marc bergevin has been seen with Chuck Fletcher this week and the wild is pushing for the playoffs so:

Mtl : Pacioretty, 2nd round pick, Daniel Carr
Min : Eriksson Ek, Olofsson, 1st round pick, 4th round pick

12 Feb 2018 20:58:59
If mtl don't trade this for Patches I would get mad. But it's also a risk because Erickson sign doing hot this year. He's should still be a top 6 tho that gets 50+ points. If so that would be more then fair.

12 Feb 2018 21:08:31
I think Coyle would be what Habs are interested in.

12 Feb 2018 21:44:51
Sosahabs, personally I would prefer Eriksson as I hope for a rebuild rather than a quick turn around.

12 Feb 2018 22:51:42
Couple is too old. If we're trading patches sits for a guy LIKE Erickson.

13 Feb 2018 11:28:50
So why would the wild do that? They have no cap space and giving up young players is stupid! And coyle is worth probably Pacioretty.

09 Feb 2018 11:13:31
Idea:

2018 1st Round Draft Pick + Josh Leivo + Nikita Soshnikov + Roman Polak to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for Niklas Hjalmarsson + Brad Richardson.

- Leivo will get a chance to play in Zona 100%. He could possibly be a top line/ second liner on a bad team, however, if he looks good, he could be a pretty good add-in. I've always rooted for him as a Leaf fan, and in the right oppurtunity, I thi k he's a 30+ point man. Sosh is a wild card, but is most likely going to end up as a gritty 10 point guy. Lol.

- Hjalmarsson fits into everything Toronto needs. Tough, stay at home blueliner with cup experience. he's the perfect blueliner. Richardson hasn't done much, and with his contract, he's maybe worth a 4th at the deadline. However, he's an upgrade on Dominic Moore imo.

And honestly, if Patches' value is a 1st + a prospect + a roster body, I would think Hjalmarsson's would be less. And imo, this is what it would take.

Lineup:
Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Mitch Marner
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Bozak - Connor Brown
Leo Komarov - Brad Richardson - Kasperi Kapanen

Ron Hainsey - Jake Gardiner
Niklas Hjalmarsson - Morgan Rielly
Nikita Zaitsev - Travis Dermott

This actually looks like a really, really well balanced team. And Hjalmarsson is signed on for 2018/ 19 as well.

09 Feb 2018 14:13:38
Not too bad. I’m just reluctant to give up a first round pick in a deal for a defenseman unless it’s a 27 minute+, do everything horse. Not that a first will get that guy, but that we could do a package to get him including prospects and picks. This definitely makes us more prepared for the Bruins and lightning without losing anything but Polak off the current roster which is good. I’m neutral on it which means I must think it’s pretty fair. Just not my ideal fit.

09 Feb 2018 16:16:37
Be surprised if hjalmarson gets that much, he was pretty much straight across for Connor Murphy, then has not had a good year, plus missed more games this year then the rest of his career combined. Don't think he'd get a first anyway.

04 Feb 2018 02:26:16
Minesota: Erickson,Dumbs

Mtl: Weber

Mtl gets a very good center prospect and a younger defensemen and wild gets one of the best defensemen in the league regardless of age

04 Feb 2018 04:20:42
I like Weber alot. I just hate his long term contract. I think the GM of my fav team is only idiot that would save another team from it. like he did to Nashville. so. Can't see it. no one is going to do Habs a favour.

04 Feb 2018 13:58:04
Minny already has Sutter and Parise contracts. No chance they want Webers as well.

04 Feb 2018 02:04:34
St Louis: Thomas

Wild:Saumur

St Louis gets a big 6,4" center who is not scared of going in the corners and wiis gets a more offensive center prospect who maybe not has as much upside as Saumur but is more safe.Is this fair?

04 Feb 2018 17:36:43
Who the hell is, Saumur?

30 Jan 2018 02:12:55
Min: Pax, byron

Mtl: coyle, ennis, 2nd becomes 1st in they reach conference finals, 3rd

why min gets top 6 forward more scoring punch and speed in byron can play anywhere in line up, save cap

mtl moves on and gets a centre opportunity to play a bigger role could work out

30 Jan 2018 06:07:25
This is interesting but can’t see minny doing it tbh.

27 Jan 2018 23:42:38
Mtl: Patches

Min:Brodin

Mtl:Petry

Mjn:Joel Erikson Ek

Edm:Benson

Chi:Hibestroxa

28 Jan 2018 08:39:59
so bad i don't even know where to start. stick to your blues feedback colt.

25 Jan 2018 01:42:15
Dennis Seidenberg,Kieffer Bellows,Devon Toews & A Draft Pick To The Minnesota Wild For Ryan Suter & Matt Dumba,A Hands Down Trade For The New York Islanders.

Picture The Blue Line For The New York Islanders Looking Like This In Their Push For The Playoffs.:

Left Defenseman-Right Defenseman

Nick Leddy-Johnny Boychuk
Ryan Suter-Ryan Pulock
Thomas Hickey-Matt Dumba

What Else Should We Include In The Package If We Want To Give Ourselves A Dynamic Defense,Without Dismantling Our Dynamic Offense.

25 Jan 2018 04:26:55
Minny laughs.

25 Jan 2018 12:21:40
Minnesota thanks you so much for that draft pick
You going to have to bid high for that package. bUT this is a cheap Walmart offer.

27 Jan 2018 05:38:06
What Else Would I Need To Include In This Potential Trade, Perhaps Another Draft Pick?

08 Jan 2018 01:12:08
I read somewhere here and makes sense for both teams.
Oilers: russel
Sharks: bodker + 2nd or 3rd rd pk

Another trade:
Oilers RNH + Benning + maroon (before trade deadline)
Wild: coyle + spurgeon
(Oilers get affordable 3rd line Center + quarterback for pp. wild get good Center. They need it. Koivu is literally done. Stall is getting old. )

Another trade: oilers Slepyshev + 2nd
Coyotes: Duclair + 3rd.

08 Jan 2018 05:01:08
Oil lose the minny trade imo but all these are interesting.

08 Jan 2018 01:07:09
Oilers trades:
Someone here posted:
Oilers: Russel
Sharks: Boedker + 2nd rd pk or 3rd rd pk
I think it makes sense for both teams.

Anoth :
Oilers: RNH + Benning + 2nd or 3rd from Sharks
Wild: geon
(Oilers get an affordable 3rd line centre and quarterback for PP. wild get a good Center man. They.

02 Dec 2017 06:33:21
MIN: Suter

LEAFS: Martin, 7th

This helps out both teams because Toronto needs a goalie and Martin is becoming elite

Go Leafs Go.

02 Dec 2017 09:07:39
Hahahahaha. These trolls are amazing.

16 Nov 2017 03:11:15
Mtl:Patches,2 rd pick 2018

Min:Brodin ,Niedereter

Then:

Mtl:Gallagher

Edm:Hopkins

16 Nov 2017 05:03:55
How many times do you guys have to post the same trades.
No thanks from Edm, Again. Lol.

14 Nov 2017 12:32:25
Mtl:Price

Phil:Giroux, Ghost, Morin

Two awesome players moving but they're co tract is both big and heavy so makes sense.I honestly think Giroux is worth less then price by that much because in the last couple seasons he's just no putting up numbers while Price is still playing like the best goalie in he world even after a slow start he'll jump back we all know it.Morin is a wild card but a good depth addition

14 Nov 2017 16:43:31
If he's going to bounce back and you know it, Then why do you want to trade him?
I'm legit wondering what your answer is to that.
GoldenShowers, what is your reason you want to trade Price?

14 Nov 2017 18:01:29
Because he’s signed until he’s 38 at a 10.5 mil cap hit with a no trade clause that kicks in next year. Plus mtl is never going to win a cup with their current roster. Lindgren is showing he could maybe be a number one. Trade price now and the rebuild that is inevitable will be much shorter. For those that think star players in mtl don’t get traded look at pk. Was done right before his no trade kicked in. Very plausable.

14 Nov 2017 19:19:19
You don’t trade Vezina goalies in their prime because a kid strings together 4-5 good games. remember sens fans trying to trade Anderson for a bag of picks because the had the Hamburgler lol. He dropped to 3rd or 4th on the depth Chart and was a throw in contract in a trade. And he strung together 24 or 25 games. Not saying you never trade price, but Lindgrens week shouldn’t be the reason.

16 Nov 2017 04:03:54
The reason is mtl roster is junk, not going to make a cup run with that team. Trade price now before the no trade kicks in, get some prospects and picks and tank and hope for dahlin and an easier rebuild.

17 Nov 2017 11:07:40
Everybody is tradeable, I can see price going to Arizona for Ekman Larsson and a forward, if price is in Arizona they have way more chance to make the playoffs each in every year.

19 Oct 2017 22:30:42
Mtl) Galchenyuk + Danault + Gallagher + 2x2d
Min) Granlund + Staal + Rielly + maybe Zucker but IDK if u guys already think than this is one sided for Mtl

Wild

Chucky Koivu Gallagher
Foligno/ Zucker Danault Stewart
Ennis Erikson Ek Kunin

Mtl) 1 60-65 pts + 2 45 pts + 2d
For
Min) 2 60 pts + top 6 young D + 40-50 pts

Mtl

Patch Drouin Granlund
Zucker? Staal Lehkonen
Hudon Plekanec Shaw

Mete Weber
Alzner Rielly
Davidson Petry

For the 2d and 3d D ... I'm trying to bring balance...

20 Oct 2017 00:31:33
I personally it’s one sided rn. As a habs what’s the panick. Were 7 games in. The boys need to figure out the chemistry. And if Bergevin does trade Chucky it’s going to be a package for a big name player.

20 Oct 2017 12:13:10
Granlund>>>>>Chucky
Staal>>Danault (evidenced by his play last year)

Zucker.

13 Oct 2017 16:46:17
Ottawa:
Matt Duchene C
3rd 2019

Colorado:
Kyle Turris C
1st 2018


Montreal:
Tyson Barrie D
2nd 2018

Colorado:
Alex Galchenyuk LW
1st 2018


Winnipeg:
Gabriel Landeskog LW
2nd 2019

Colorado:
Jacob Trouba D
2nd 2020

Minnesota:
Kyle Turris C

Colorado:
Matt Dumba D

13 Oct 2017 18:03:14
No from the Jets. Landeskog is good, but we don't need a forward if we are trading Trouba, we would need a D man as young and as good as Trouba in return.

13 Oct 2017 18:05:38
Montreal should really avoid that Tyson Barrie trade.

13 Oct 2017 23:42:09
unbelievable if you think turris is that good keep him then otherwise don't post.

14 Oct 2017 02:28:54
Habs should do that Tyson Barrie trade. They're D is very immobile and I've never been a big believer in galchenyuk but thought he was still young and good enough to take a chance on, but I watched the habs home opener against the hawks and he was abosolutely awful. Losing puck battles every shift. He went for a change on the back check on a 3-on-2 of toews, saad and Keith lol looked like kostitsen. Seems like he got a paycheck and has completely mailed it in. Looked so disinterested in that game.

14 Oct 2017 17:41:21
Great John you're on some heck of a drug if you honestly think the ottawa trade is bad for Colorado lmao. If anything ottawa says no to this in a heartbeat. Turris and duchene have virtual identical careers from highs to lows, they litterally have a 0.04 point per game difference since Duchene entered the league and turris joined ottawa in around the same number of games. Go look it up if you don't believe the stats I got straight from nhl. com.

Here's the real rumor that was circulating the last couple days and is a turris contract away from happening.

To ottawa = Duchene

To colorado = turris and lajoe.

14 Oct 2017 20:00:53
blah blah blah senskill typical sens fan think you have gold and it's only dust you guys only watch sens.

16 Oct 2017 17:10:27
Lol delusional if you think duschene is worth turris and a first. turris 7 points already. 25+goals a year. duschene has never had 25 goals. That 41 points last year is amazing too :p.

I'm sorry but duschene us not worth a 1st unless its just the first and chlapik. And maybe Wideman. I know ill probably get ripped on but stats are the truth.

18 Oct 2017 20:14:47
Great John I don't just watch the sens bro I follow hockey. There is a difference. If I just followed the sens I wouldn't finish top 10 in 90% of the hockey pools I'm in but I do. It's called not over or under valuing players just because they are or are not on your favourite team. It's also called doing your homework on a players history and not valuing them based on hype alone.

18 Oct 2017 20:32:22
For example their are safe picks and their are risky picks.

Stamkos = risky pick
Voracek = safe pick
Value = same

Yes stamkos is the better player no doubt but. stamkos is a risk as he is extremely injury proned while voracek is an iron man of hockey and very consistent.

Or

Last year example

Marchessault and huberdeau

Huberdeau better player but injury gave Marchessault a shot to play on barkov line and prove himself a safe sleeper pick.

And my personal favourite example is

Mcdavid Crosby

Mcdavid is a better player but Crosby has a better supporting cast that helps push him past mcdavid stats wise

same way duchesne supporting cast over the years push him very slightly over turris stats wise, doesn't by any means make him worth more than turris.

18 Sep 2017 00:30:18
Edmonton
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
- 2nd
Minnesota
- Mathew Dumba
Toronto
- Tyler Bozak

TOR - 2nd
MIN - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
EDM - Mathew Dumba, Tyler Bozak

18 Sep 2017 22:41:59
Nuge > Dumba, Minnesota needs to give up more IMO.

 
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