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20 Feb 2019 23:43:43

Bruins get:
- Charlie Coyle

Wild get:
- Ryan Donato
- 5th round pick (2019)

Bruine get their big center they've been needing for the 2nd line or 3rd line

Wild get a young player who needs s new home

21 Feb 2019 04:11:00
That’s a good trade for the Bruins.

Something big is going on in Minnesota. First Niedereitter, now Coyle.

21 Feb 2019 13:13:06
Don't think there is anything big is going on in Minny -- they've lost two of their best players for the year and aren't going anywhere without them just doing a bit of a re-tool on the fly. Solid deal for Boston for sure, and Donato has some intriguing upside for Minnesota.

21 Feb 2019 15:42:02
I think there is Staal is next, and then maybe Spurgeon or Brodin as well as Zucker and Stalock.

21 Feb 2019 16:01:52
Why do people put unbelievable on a deal that has already happened, it makes no sense to me.

21 Feb 2019 17:40:47
Cause people are jerks.

21 Feb 2019 18:25:01
I read something that they are freeing up cash to make runs at big name free agents.

06 Feb 2019 22:48:44
Minnesota Trades
1st Round Pick 2019

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019 (Blues Pick)

Koivu out for the year with a torn ACL.
Toronto can get a 1st Round Pick back to Trade to improve the LWing Position

Thoughts ?

06 Feb 2019 23:17:51
Wow are you overvalueing Gardner am UFA at the end of the season. Face it he is going to walk at the end of the season and the Leafs will get nothing for him.

07 Feb 2019 00:08:05
Pinball come on man. This is bad. You mention how Koivu is out but you make a trade regarding dmen, so it is absolutely no help to what they just loss. Easy no from minny.

07 Feb 2019 00:44:04
A UFA and not much else from Toronto for a top 4D. Typical Pinball thread.

07 Feb 2019 06:14:15
My thoughts are your trades are getting worse everyday. I don't like to criticize trade proposals on here too much but it's true man. I tell ya what post a few that don't involve the leafs and see how it goes.

07 Feb 2019 09:19:45
All you same people have Ferland going for a 1st Round Pick and a prospect, Ferland is a UFA like Gardiner are you all saying Ferland is worth more in a Trade then Gardiner?

07 Feb 2019 11:02:25
Lol Gardiner is worth a second rd pick tops.

07 Feb 2019 15:25:23
I don't think anyone here truly believes ferland will get a first and a prospect, we are just following the demands from carolina buddy.

07 Feb 2019 18:08:16
Gardiner is easily worth a 1st+. Not sure why anyone would think he isn’t. Only reason to say something so silly is because they want to stir things up a bit.

Spurgeon has the extra year left on his contract though, which makes him more valuable than Gardiner. It would be Leafs adding the pick.

Lindholm is not a replacement for Koivu. Not even close. Minnesota already has enough centres anyway. No point even including him in this deal. If Minnesota wants a throw in, they will be looking at a younger prospect with upside. Not an aging free agent that just isn’t very good.

07 Feb 2019 18:35:54
Yeah i'm Not saying gardiner isn't worth a 1st but he isn't worth spurgeon. So he's for sure not worth spurgeon and a 1st.

07 Feb 2019 19:38:45
I’m quite confident Gardiner will be their own rental and he will walk. The leafs won’t get anything for him but that’s how teams are doing things now. As much as I don’t like Gardiner, he will get 6 million on the open market. He can move the puck well and puts up points, he just can’t play defense, lol.

08 Jan 2019 02:23:30
Wpg: Trouba, 2nd round pick
St. Louis: Pietrangelo, 1st round pick

Wpg: Copp, 2nd round pick
Minnesota: Stall

Wpg: 1st round pick, Stanley
LA: Muzzin.

08 Jan 2019 05:05:17
No from St. Louis are you kidding me.

08 Jan 2019 05:05:20
You look at Staal, here’s a guy that came back down to reality after his very impressive 40 goal campaign last season. And what’s “normal” for this guy? On pace for 25+ goals and 50+ points. Staal is playing outstanding hockey for a guy his age. For any age, really. A proven winner, he has so much more to bring to a team other than just his ability to power his way to the net. A lot of what Staal has to offer are intangibles that don’t always show up on stats sheets.

I’m not sure if Minnesota is looking to trade Staal. He’s well liked, and for some reason I can’t substantiate, I’ve always just figured re-signing him was a given. Then again, hockey is a cutthroat business. At $3.5M, Minny got a deal. They more than got their money’s worth from Staal. He could be looking for a big pay raise now. Staal could go highest bidder and walk on Minny. Or they could trade him for a return if they aren’t making playoffs this year.

08 Jan 2019 12:51:26
Are you serious. You want petro and a 1st. Lol gtfooh.

08 Jan 2019 16:19:04
All 3 trades make no sense for either teams.

08 Jan 2019 17:30:25
The St. Louis trade is good value minus the picks, but if the Jets do trade Trouba in the summer, it will likely be for a younger player (s) as the Jets won't be able to afford AP's new contract.

The other two deals have too much coming from Winnipeg. Maybe a later pick or B/ C prospect for Staal and a prospect package for Muzzin.

08 Jan 2019 19:22:10
Are you serious. In no universe is trouba equal to Petro. Why would the blues do this. Petro is top 10 in league top 5 in his position. Trouba is what top 30 maybe. This is a really bad.

08 Jan 2019 20:26:50
Actually when you consider age and contacts it would be pretty close, value wise. AP will be getting a huge contract in 2 years.

08 Jan 2019 20:45:05
Petro top 10 player in the league? When did this happen?

08 Jan 2019 22:28:00
Petro has been a top 10 defenseman in the league for last several years. If you are saying he isnot then by all means continue to spew crap.

08 Jan 2019 23:15:39
I hate to admit, but I side with redwing on this one. I’ll take petro over Trouba any day. He is a legit proven top defence. I think Trouba is a bit overrated. Not to mention if Trouba didn’t want to commit long term with Winnipeg who why would he commit to St. Louis at this point. He would still be a 2nd pairing d man with St. Louis behind paryko. Not to mention that first pick could be a high lottery pick. Not a chance they part with a chance at Hughes or kakko.

09 Jan 2019 00:38:51
I don't mind the top 10 dman part he's at least close to that the way he had the statement worded lead me to believe he was saying he was a top 10 player overall in the league.

09 Jan 2019 06:26:27
No habby that's exactly what he said.
Top 10 in the league.
Top 5 D.
Then changed his stance to be top 10 D.

09 Jan 2019 13:10:59
My fault, top 10 Dman top 5 rhd in league.

09 Jan 2019 13:15:06
Dude top 10 Dman in league top five in his position rhd.

But by all means try to spin my words.

09 Jan 2019 13:17:59
Pietrangelo was top 10 D in this league for the last 5 years but this year I can name 25 defensemen that have overall played superior then AP plus maybe another 5 that played on about the same level as AP. Obviously that dosnt take anything away from his past performances but the truth is he's 28 and he's not getting better. I don't see how he can be call a top 10 defensemen as of now, he's just not playing like one.

09 Jan 2019 13:36:33
Ow is me literally quoting you spinning anything. Try saying what you actually mean.

09 Jan 2019 16:36:00
There is a difference between bad year and decline. But you know that your just trying to get a rise or your just plain dumb.

09 Jan 2019 22:49:52
Not a chance ap is top 5 de or top 5 rhd or top 10 player, keeps changing but name the 4 guys that may be better? he's declined and people like him don't age well. Brent Seabrook was top echelon a few years ago and look at him, same type of player if you ask me.

06 Jan 2019 18:37:33
Thomas Vanek

2020 3rd round pick

07 Jan 2019 00:05:33
Vanek got Motte and Jussi Jokinen for Vanek last years deadline and he was having a good season. Good luck getting a 4th.

13 Dec 2018 17:21:46
Edmonton: RnH , Nurse

Minnesota: Coyle , dumba

Who adds?

13 Dec 2018 18:59:46
Value isn’t that bad but I doubt Minnesota trades Dumba, that guy is a beast.

13 Dec 2018 19:39:54
Dumba has more value than the package lol no from Minny.

13 Dec 2018 23:15:12
Dumba has more value than Nuge AND Nurse 😂 buddy. Come on.

13 Dec 2018 06:16:27
Wild trade: Dumba, Coyle

Nucks trade: Boeser, tanev, 3rd round pick 2020

Idk if either team would trade dumba or boeser but I think it would help the Canucks out for young D and size with coyle

13 Dec 2018 12:51:08
Of you have watched Boeser and Petterson play together, Canucks would be fools to split that up. That instant chemistry is always nice, but when both players are like 22 or under, that could be a top duo for 15 years. Would take a massive overpayment and this just isn’t it.

13 Dec 2018 15:34:31
Definitely huge no from Vancouver. And like Jim said you can’t break up that duo they are so dynamic and dangerous it would be beyond foolish to trade one away.

26 Nov 2018 00:48:06
Canucks trade: boeser, Tanev, 2nd rounder

Wild trade: dumba, Coyle

How do you guys feel about this one?

26 Nov 2018 03:22:53
Woah. Yes please from Minny.

26 Nov 2018 04:23:55
I’m not so sure this is a tilted in Minny’s favor as it looks at first. Boeser’s history of injury has got to be concerning. But looking past that, Dumba is an outstanding RHD, and replaces a large chunk of Boeser’s offense himself. Top 15 in the league and trending up. He’s on a damn good contract for a 1RHD of his caliber too. Vancouver could use Dumba a lot considering their RHD right now is Tanev, Gudbranson, Stetcher. That’s got to be one of the worst in the league.

Coyle is no hack either. Plays a damn good game and brings some nice size and physicality to Vancouver that they they could probably use more of.

There’s a lot going for this trade. Definitely good for thought. I like it.

10 Nov 2018 16:12:51
Minnesota Trades

Toronto Trades
4th Round Pick 2019


10 Nov 2018 17:18:41
value wise (if Nylander had a contract the wild were happy with) I don’t think it’s bad. My problem with it is we are willing to trade a player like Nylander to strengthen a weak spot on RHD but this doesn’t do that enough. Dumba is awesome, I’d love to have him as top pair but that still means hainsey is 2nd. i'm good with trading Nylander to upgrade hainsey to a younger better player, but this is upgrading Zaitsev not hainsey. If our right side is Dumba, hainsey, Ozhiganov, it’s better than hainsey, zaitsev, oz but not good enough. Dumba, zaitsev, oz is what I would want. Trading our current best RHD with nylander for a better RHD doesn’t make sense. Will still be our weak spot and it cost us a 22 year old winger with high upside.

10 Nov 2018 17:28:44
So, the Wild give up the best piece in Dumba and a decent winger to get a good winger looking for more money than he's worth and a pile of garbage. I have to think the Wild say no.

09 Nov 2018 23:20:14
I might be way off here but Minnesota is looking for scoring and Pittsburgh is looking to change things up.
Spurgeon, Fehr & a 1st for Kessel
Spurgeon, Eriksson for Kessel

Spurgeon improves Pittsburgh's defense, Fehr adds some center depth and has already played there, plus a 1st. In the second proposal, I really don't know much about Eriksson but he's young and from what I've heard from you guys, he's supposed to be good. The cap in both deals are similar. Although Kessel only plays at one end of the rink, he is at the top of the league in scoring year after year. You have to give to get.

10 Nov 2018 04:50:20
Erikson El might become a bust at this point.

06 Nov 2018 11:04:09

Min:Erikson Ek

06 Nov 2018 17:59:56
Plekanec can’t get in the habs lineup. He’s a cap dump now that minny wouldn’t want and adds no value, probably takes away value from Scherbak. I don’t know if minny does just the swap of the 2 young guys, probably not, but definitely not once you add in plek. Also, not sure, but I would have thought plek got a NTC? Maybe not, just usually a guy with that history in an organization gets some say in his future at this point in his career.

06 Nov 2018 21:30:26
Plekanec is injured jim that's why he hasn't been playing. he's actually the same player that got a 2nd and two prospects at the deadline last year. Only difference he's got a cheaper contract this year.

06 Nov 2018 21:28:28
Fair enough Jim and no on the NTC.

06 Nov 2018 23:51:08
Was he not healthy scratched off the start? I’m positive he was, could be wrong but saw a habs game earlier that he wasn’t dressed fit and wasn’t hurt.

06 Nov 2018 23:58:30
Just looked, he was scratched for 3 of the first 6 games, hurt now, okay I didn’t know about that, but how many times has he been scratched in the last cpl years? I don’t think that makes him the same player if he wasn’t cracking that lineup to start. I like plek, was happy to get him last year, he had a few good game mixed with a lot of lacklustre ones once he came over. Wasn’t the same player for us that I remember him with the habs, but figured maybe his heart just wasn’t in it the same understandably. But then being benched back in Montreal tells me he’s not the same player he was a year ago. Doesn’t that make sense?

07 Nov 2018 13:57:05
It does but the plan at the beginning of the season was for him to sit out the first game so he would play his 1000th game at home. But the habs played such a good game against the leafs that they went with the same lineup. He got back into the lineup and would still be playing now if he didn't get injured.

07 Nov 2018 13:58:53
I don't think he was scratched at all last year.

07 Nov 2018 13:59:06
But back to the original point he has very little if any trade value at this point of the season if he can get back from his injury he might fetch another pick at the deadline to a team looking to upgrade their 4th line center position and penalty kill.

07 Nov 2018 14:35:22
Yeah. Just to a team like minny who have lots of veterans and not a lot of money, I don’t see his value. If you wanted to send him there, in that situation, I think he almost takes value away from Scherbak is what I was saying.

07 Nov 2018 23:18:28
Jim I agree with u it makes sense I still think he can give good service to a team in the nhl.

07 Nov 2018 23:44:24
Tbh I'm not really sure if scherbak has any value ATM if he doesn't soon start dominating some ahl games he could be the next waiver dump for the habs.

08 Nov 2018 03:00:49
@boomboom, probably to some teams, sure. He’s seen a lot in his days and could help a young team like what the leafs did bringing in hainsey/ Moore and Kinda Marleau although he’s in a bit different class at this point. Just the wild have Suter, parise, koivu, Staal, fehr, Hendricks etc. No need for a veteran like plek there.

02 Nov 2018 10:02:31
Toronto:Nylander(unsigned),Sandin,2rd pick 2019


02 Nov 2018 13:44:34
Leafs add Mathews.

02 Nov 2018 17:39:36
Not so unrealistic. Sandin has a high ceiling, and Wild can use Nylander’s offense. Trading him unsigned lowers his value, so the pick and Sandin help compensate for that. Using the Johansson for Jones trade as precedent, this trade isn’t so far fetched.

02 Nov 2018 18:10:46
He will only be traded to a team with a deal in place. Leafs would rather him sit out a yeah than make that garbage trade.

02 Nov 2018 19:08:48
Minny adds Parise.

02 Nov 2018 02:12:27
to Minnesota

to Toronto

Brodin will play top 4 minutes. Belpedio hasn't quite broken through at the pro level but he still was a monster in college and probably will be useful down the line.

02 Nov 2018 02:56:49
Would rather Dumba tbh from a leafs perspective

02 Nov 2018 03:44:31
I’m not seeing it. Brodin is good, sure, but Leafs can do better than him for Nylander. Using the Johansson for Jones trade as precedent, you got to think Nylander is worth Dumba, and nothing less.

02 Nov 2018 10:01:10
Nylander worth Dumba? Ahahahahabababababab

02 Nov 2018 13:46:25
Nylander>>Anyone on Montreal.

02 Nov 2018 18:22:24
A little surprised you would rather have winger Nylander than number one goalie or D Price or Weber VB.
Or is this just yet another one of them times you over exaggerate?

02 Nov 2018 19:05:45
VB, where did that come from? lol.

02 Nov 2018 19:07:43
@vbbbb yeah yeah we know.

02 Nov 2018 19:11:35
I'm not sure how Montreal got dragged into this post. Nylander is a great player and all but at this point in time, someone playing hockey is worth more than someone not playing hockey, lol.

03 Nov 2018 03:48:13
So wge u say better is this context u mean value wise. So value wise atm

Drouin> Nylander.

05 Oct 2018 18:41:20
All right I will jump on the trade Nylander bandwagon.

Minnesota: Dumba
Toronto: Nylander

I think a 1 for 1 trade would work out and it fits the needs of both teams. I do admit I see Toronto play more than Minnesota. Can you let me know if this is fair or do I rate Nylander too high?

05 Oct 2018 19:17:27
It comes down to simply Minnesota just not making this trade. They aren’t going to trade Dumba. As for the value 🤷🏼‍♂️ I think it’s close but with Nylanders demands and dumba locked up long term I’d say Toronto would need to add.

05 Oct 2018 22:31:44
the issue is Dumba is cost controlled for many of his prime years and that makes his value even higher.

05 Oct 2018 22:35:05
I think mcjesus is dead on. Value wise they’re close, Willy May even have a tiny bit more, hard to say. But when contract is weighed in, it’s a big no from minny.

06 Oct 2018 00:39:25
McJesus took the words right out of my mouth.

Minnesota is pretty tight against cap and with Suter and Parise’s contracts, will be for a very long time. They need to pinch every penny they can. Last thing they need is to overpay for Nylander on a long term contract.

Everyone loves Dumba. How couldn’t they? He’d look amazing in blue and white. If you’re reading this right now Dumba, then just know that there’s is another place for you if you ever get unhappy in Minnesota, you can always come back to Canada.

06 Oct 2018 00:43:42
Well. this isn't bad . I think it all depends on what Nylander would sign for. Dumba is signed already, and looks like a good deal fo both player and team.
I think I read that Nylander wants 8 million? Did I read that right? he's more like 6.5.

06 Oct 2018 00:22:10
Ya minnasnowta wouldn’t do it it’s really close though!

06 Oct 2018 02:55:11
What if they sing him for a 4 year x 4.5 mill. He would still have a year of team control before UFA. Minnesota would Have a cap savings of 1.5 mill. (Dumba 5years x 6 milll) . Or at that price does Toronto keep him?

06 Oct 2018 05:32:37
Not a chance Minnesota would consider it. Leafs would need to add.

06 Oct 2018 06:41:50
Nylander is asking for $8/ 8.5M long term. And you're suggesting he would sign for $4.5M for 4 years? That's laughable. I understand the idea of then still
Being able to cash in on a long term contract then still, but man, That's just funny. Why wouldn't he just do that in Toronto where he apperently loves then?

06 Oct 2018 18:14:28
Of course Toronto keeps him at $4.5 mill lol if he was willing to play 4 more years at $4.5 mill they would have signed it LAST July 1st.

06 Oct 2018 19:05:28
I thought of 4.5 over 4 years because that is where Kadri is at. I also think Kadri is a better player right now than Nylander is. I don’t think any GM thinks Nylander is worth 8 mill or they would offer sheet him. I wonder if this will turn into a Mike Peca situation.

06 Oct 2018 23:25:07
Kadri May be a better fit layer than Nylander but probably not ceiling. However that Kadri deal is 2 years old and he has outperformed it each season. It’s not true value.

22 Sep 2018 15:36:22
3 Way Trade Proposal.

Carolina Trades
Faulk (Minnesota)

Minnesota Trades
Spurgeon (Toronto)
Seeler (Carolina)

Toronto Trades
CBrown (Carolina)
Sparks (Minnesota)
4th Round Pick 2019 (Carolina)

Trade Breakdown.

Faulk-CBrown,Seeler,4th Rounder
Carolina gets a good 24yr old 2 Way Winger and solves sitting TVR as the 7th Daman,Seeler is better suited as a Depth DMan.

Faulk and Spurgeon are close so that's more a wash but the key is Sparks as the Wild don't have any Goaltending Prospects.

CBrown,Sparks,4th Rounder-Spurgeon
Spurgeon is exactly what the Leafs are looking for on Defense and it's time to give Leivo a full time spot on RWing playing with Kadri on the 3rd Line gives him that,the crowded Goaltending and Sparks having to go through Waivers makes sense as some Team will Claim him.

Thoughts ?

22 Sep 2018 17:20:32
Stop posting the exact same thing over and over and over.

22 Sep 2018 18:16:14
Just posts trades and clicks believable and ends up 1-22.

22 Sep 2018 20:13:06

22 Sep 2018 23:13:30
TopShelfSlappers it isn't the same Trade Proposal, Connor Brown instead of Kapanen is in this Trade Proposal, better Winger in this Trade Proposal and say what you want it makes sense for all 3 Teams.

18 Sep 2018 17:13:04
3 Way Trade Proposal.

Carolina Trades
Faulk (Minnesota)

Minnesota Trades
Spurgeon (Toronto)
Seeler (Carolina)

Toronto Trades
Kapanen (Carolina)
Sparks (Minnesota)
4th Round Pick 2019 (Carolina)

Trade Breakdown.
Faulk-Kapanen,Seeler,4th Round Pick
Kapanen,Sparks,4th Round Pick

Carolina solves the depth on the RDefence as TVR needs to play and adding Kapanen is a player they have wanted.
Minnesota replaces Spurgeon with Faulk a Minnesota born player and adds a good Goaltender Prospect in Sparks.
Toronto gets the Top Pairing Defenceman to pair with Rielly.

Thoughts ?

18 Sep 2018 17:42:16
This exact thing was on here a week or so ago with poor responses. All this is going to do is have half the people say leafs aren’t paying enough, and then have VBB day Faulk is a piece of garbage that shouldn’t be in the league.

18 Sep 2018 21:12:56
Unbiased Jim. Faulk isn't that good. Just saying.

18 Sep 2018 22:02:58
He isn’t that good but saying he does belong not in the league is an overstatement I said it to emphasize the way people overvalue him.

18 Sep 2018 22:50:32
Cherry, Faulk is a decently good player. Second, vb, that doesn’t make any sense lol at all that doesn’t emphasize anything.

18 Sep 2018 23:50:42
It emphasizes the trade was bad.

19 Sep 2018 03:11:32
What trade. You have over exaggerated your hate on Faulk numerous times. lol. We got it tho, you just don't like that guy.

19 Sep 2018 16:07:32
Saying a player doesn’t belong in the league also doesn’t emphasize any trade proposal lol that’s two completely different things.
Anyways, Faulk is either moved around right when the season starts or not at all this year.

19 Sep 2018 21:37:01
Mcjesus, I have watched Faulk on numerous occasions and I don't view him as anything more than a 3rd pairing guy. People rag on Gardiner, but I would take him anyday over Faulk. And I am not even a huge Gardiner fan.

20 Sep 2018 00:20:01
That’s fine, just because you view him as a third pairing dman doesn’t necessarily mean he is, but he certainly belongs in this league and he has offensive attributes lots of players wish they had.

20 Sep 2018 10:54:23
Never said he doesn't belong in the league. Its his career minus 109 that scares the crap out of me.

20 Sep 2018 16:18:03
I know you didn’t say that but somebody else did lol.

16 Sep 2018 02:09:14
to Toronto

to Minnesota

16 Sep 2018 12:23:09
No from leafs.

16 Sep 2018 15:43:16
No from the Wild. They have Dumba signed to a reasonable contract and will play this season while Nylander wants a crazy number and may sit out.

16 Sep 2018 15:52:38
8 million isn’t a crazy ask for him considering age and potential.

16 Sep 2018 17:37:51
Yes. US$8 milion per is a ridiculous ask for Nylander. US$7 million is max for Nylander. Look at the mess the Oilers are in when they have 4 players accounting for US$40+ million of their cap. Chiarelli should have been fired and the NHL should have cancelled McDavid's contract. No player should make more than $11 million per season.

16 Sep 2018 21:13:39
Lmao Tavares mane $11M. McDavid is worth more than Tavares. W. T. Fukkkkkkkk.

And actually when you look at actual salary not cap hit. Tavares will make $15.9M this season. Highest in the league. Price is second at $15M and McDavid $15M. Jamie Benn $13M.
Get your facts before you make personic comments. McDavid actually left a little on the table too. Jesus.

16 Sep 2018 21:45:27
Nylanderperson your name should be if you don’t think McDavid should have more than 11m lol.

17 Sep 2018 01:04:36

Get your facts straight before making personic comments.

Calling McDavid overpaid and suggesting the league should have cancelled his contract when your team just signed a player to a massive contract as well is the most personic thing I've read in a while on here. And that's in the middle of these Jets homers run of wicked personic crap. Lol.

17 Sep 2018 05:00:20
I'm pretty sure he meant nobody should make more then 11 million not that he thought tavares was better then mcdavid I assume he meant mcdavid should be at 11 mil and tavares should be less.

17 Sep 2018 06:25:36
I actually had person but clearly was changed haha.

08 Sep 2018 18:01:21
3way Trade Proposal.

Carolina Trades
Faulk (Minnesota)

Minnesota Trades
Spurgeon (Toronto)
Seeler (Carolina)

Toronto Trades
Kapanen (Carolina)
Sparks (Minnesota)

Trade Breakdown.

Maybe Minnesota would have to add a Mid Round Pick going to Carolina but think this is a good Proposal.

Thoughts ?

08 Sep 2018 19:18:23
Carolina gets robbed. They would need more coming back. Toronto wouid have to give something else.

09 Sep 2018 12:15:34
People really need to lower there value on Faulk. The guy is one of the worst defensive dmen in the league and people still rate him so high. -109 is his career plus/ minus. And people say Gardiner is bad defensively.

09 Sep 2018 14:08:30
Faulk shouldn’t be in the league imo huge defensive reliability.

09 Sep 2018 18:50:53
And there's Vbb over exaggerating as usual. We get it, you don't like the guy. But the fact he is a good offensive D man and is a Captain of an NHL team but you think he shouldn't even be in the league.
Maybe you actually mean he should be a sheltered minute, power play, not a captain, D man?

09 Sep 2018 20:11:17
Vb you are easily the least knowledgeable person iv ever seen consistently post on this site before and seriously what did faulk do to you!

09 Sep 2018 22:23:04
Yupp you’re correct I was over exaggerating and maybe he should be captain. The position is overrated if you actually played hockey. ( which I doubt you have ) you’d know leadership dosent come from 1 person it’s a team effort.

10 Sep 2018 22:30:56
faulk is a good player at what he does. He’s not a great defender, much like Gardiner. But there’s teams that can absorb his defensive liability to add what he brings offensively.

Also the way the game is going, if he’s a
enough puck mover, and put on a team with a good forward group, he can move the puck out and spend a lot less time in his own zone, helping his defensive part.

Like leafs not willing to pay the asking price for a big D upgrade, they’re hoping guys within step up and that with the depth of 2 way players up front, they can control the play and have possession enough to take pressure off the D, making it good enough for now.

06 Sep 2018 17:51:32
Mtl: Brodin, Parise

Min: Patches, 2rd 2018

That is only if Patches agreed to extension of 6 million for 8 years. Mtl takes a bad contract and actually gives a not terrible one when u think about it because JVR got 7 million but yes it was for 5 years. Pacioretty gets more long term security at a still good salary imo for both sides. That is only if Patches starts the season old and values goes up. But if so is this good???

06 Sep 2018 21:07:55
Brodin> Patch.

07 Sep 2018 00:47:16
You say Brodin > Patch but the whole point of it is for minny to shed some cap.

07 Sep 2018 01:31:52
Nothing> Parise and Brodin.

07 Sep 2018 02:58:12
How is Brodin better than Pacioretty?

07 Sep 2018 13:22:52
I know Brodin is worth more then Patches by a big amount since he's 4 years younger, signed for another 3 years at 4.1 million not UFA and D>wingers. That's why mtl takes on a bad contract straight up and throws in a second pick. Taking 8 million for another 6 years and only getting in average probably 35-40 points per season is very valuable imo for mynny. Anyways I think is fair for both teams and I apreaciate the comments even KeyHabs ahah.

07 Sep 2018 13:23:28
Praise dosnt bring down Brodin as much as ure making it sounds Vb. Yes he's way overpaid for another 6 years but he is still a good secondary scorer on any team in the nhl. He would still be a top 6 player in mtl wich is why I still think my l needs to add to Patches to get him and Brodin. I don't thknk they have to add a warm and a leg but a second is a god price imo.

07 Sep 2018 14:53:18
If anyone declines it Montreal Parise is a definition of an Anchor all tho I still like him as a player.

07 Sep 2018 15:48:09
Colt, you can be 100% right that Parise is still a decent player and can chip in for secendary scoring. And yet VBB is also 100% right that he’s an anchor of a contract. He’s 34, owed $7.5mill till he’s 40. That’s a brutal deal right now.

07 Sep 2018 16:36:51
He’s owed the same cap hit, till about the same age as Weber. A lot of people think Weber’s deal is an anchor to his value. However Weber is still (when healthy) a very very good top pair Dman on almost any team. Parise isn’t a top line player on any team I can think of right now. That’s the difference.

08 Sep 2018 01:20:18
I think you'd need to add more to take Parise, up there with the most regrettable contracts in the league.

08 Sep 2018 18:02:54
if everyone’s trades are so bad why don’t you post a trade him? You are so easy to criticize but you don’t back it up. Be a man make a reasonable Toronto trade.

05 Sep 2018 06:15:32
Tor - D Jake Gardiner (1yr x 4.05 mill), 2019 1st, 2020 3rd, F Jeremy Bracco

Min - D Jonas Brodin (3yrsx $4.16mill)

Gardiner is the leafs 2nd LHD behind Rielly. He has this season left and is due a raise. If he would take $5.25-5.5 mill it’s possible he could fit, however he may want to cash in for more after a few good seasons and he still isn’t exactly the Defensive player we need. Brodin is much more rounded player, a bit younger and 2 more years of cost certainty which is very important going forward in Toronto.

Minnesota gets a good puck moving LHD to take Brodins spot in the lineup. They’re also Gardiners hometown team so may be able to resign him a little cheaper than other teams. They get a mid to late 1st rounder, a 3rd rounder and a small but very skilled prospect who is stuck behind a lot of talent in Toronto. The Wild have a decent team but with Suter (33) Staal (33) Parise (34) and Koivu (35), stocking some younger assets doesn’t hurt.

05 Sep 2018 06:25:42
Interesting if wild can sign Gardiner after the year.

05 Sep 2018 07:08:28
Not saying it’s the perfect move for Minnesota because Gardiner is going to be a UFA but is Brodin worth that?

05 Sep 2018 13:43:14
@ebs, I get what you’re saying but leafs are getting a player 3 years younger with 3 years term left. I feel like the cost certainty alone is worth a premium. Also we would be asking the Wild to take a player 3 years older with only a year left on his contract at a similar cap hit. They don’t need to make this change right now and if you don’t make it worth their while, they just won’t. A late first, a 3rd and Bracco I would be willing to sacrifice to make our D stronger and be able to keep our forward group together for 2 extra years cap wise. Others may not be so willing, but I feel it’s what it could take.

05 Sep 2018 15:47:42
And @mcjesus, minny could sign him the day the trade is made. They could have a 5 x $6mill extension ready to maximize their return.

05 Sep 2018 17:15:48
as a leafs fan I would rather trade gardiner for a better dman than brodin if he is traded at all. and personally I'm not sure brodin is worth a 1st,3rd and bracco in the first place. he has a career, 0.247 ppg and a career high of 25 points with 21 points last year. is he a good dman? Sure, but i'd rather put our pieces into a better dman. I understand the value of him being 3 yrs younger and 3 years term (nice good contract i will admit) but I definitely would rather have one year of gardiner+1st+3rd+bracco than brodin.

hope that wasn't too biased haha.

05 Sep 2018 19:38:38
@Big Z. That’s fair. I wasn’t worried at all about his career points per game or his pt total last year for 2 reasons. 1 is that no one on minny (forwards included) ever put up big numbers, I think mid 60s leads their team every year. Secondly, we will get plenty of offense from our forwards (arguably the best top 9 in the league), Rielly and Dermott and hopefully zaitsev again on the backend. I’m more concerned with the other half of the game that has plagued us for years.

06 Sep 2018 04:22:43
Think brodin and Gardiner would be a very nice pair but got to give one up for the other, its trading offensive de for defensive de which I'd agree Toronto would be better off for.

19 Aug 2018 23:43:04
Mtl signs Patches for 8 years at 5.5 million. Takes less money for long term. Stays captain and mtl gets a good player with the money they save for win win win for everybody. Then

Mtl: Gallagher,2 rd 2019

Min:Erikson, Brodin

Mtl lines



Brodin-Weber( when he's back)



20 Aug 2018 02:30:19
Where's victor mete?

20 Aug 2018 03:44:33
Is that Eriksson Ek and Borodin?! Lol.

20 Aug 2018 16:08:11
I'm a Habs fan and what I would rather see is patch traded at the deadline give Gallagher the C and build around a young new core. They are not close to winning the cup so why try? Have Weber and Price be your vets and mentor the young team.

20 Aug 2018 19:14:13
@ctc, you’re right. Nothing worse that a team without direction thinking they can piece together a team just good enough to make the playoffs. These days, fans are smarter than falling for that and are informed enough to see the real value of a full rebuild. After Leafs finally got out of that pattern and got there sh*t in order, now we are watching the Blue Jays do the same exact garbage and fans are wondering why they aren’t following suit when seeing the leafs reaping the benefits of a cpl bad years. If habs ownership does a presser like shanahan did a few years ago and say it’s going to suck, we are going to lose a lot of games, there will be pain, but we have the chance to do what Pittsburgh and Chicago have done, real knowledgeable fans would be fine with it. And watching young kids getting opportunities while losing games still gives you something to get behind and cheer for.

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