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09 Jan 2015 18:06:53
LA & TOR
TOR: 2016 2nd rd pick. M.Santorelli
LA: M.Richards
1.) No thanks from T.O. Santorelli playing a great 2 way game with more responsibility and ice time. We need that second rounder for more prospects in a deeper draft. Richards is badly regressing and is overpaid at the moment. don't even think the cap works for this deal to go thru.
2.) So many things wrong with this.
1) Richard's contract - for a team already struggling with the cap, how is bringing on a bigger salary going to help?
2) why is Toronto giving up the 2nd? They are helping LA with their cap situation
3) Santorelli can probably be re-signed for half of what Richards makes and is more productive.
3.) Sorry, after my rant I realized it was LA sending the pick
My other points remain the same though.
4.) Richards is playing 4th line minutes on la. He is far from a 4th line player. He would slot into top 6 on the leafs. Leafs would obviously need to make a second trade. richards has better Corsi/ possesion numbers then all but 2 players on the leafs. Exact player leafs need. ( - the 5 year term left )
09 Jan 2015 18:01:49
LEAFS & JETS
TOR: Gardiner, Lupol, 2015 4th Rd Pick,
WPG: Bogosian
1.) Looking at it from a Jets POV.
-Jets looking for offence
-Gardiner & Bogosian are the same age
-Lupol a solid top 6 forward when healthy
-Jets have cap space
Leafs POV
- top 4 defenceman with great corsi #'s., most likely slot into top 2
- Salary cap space
* Leafs would need to make another trade to solidify there top 6. ( RYAN O RIELLY?? )
BOOOM
2.) There is just something about it that I like.
3.) @NHLFunFacts and that is? Bogosian? lol
07 jan 2015 19:28:11
la & tor
tor: c.franson, r.panik, 2015 3rd rd pick
la: m.richards , d.king
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then:
tor: j.gardiner, p.holland. s.percy
buf: t.myers , 2015 4rd pick
1.) I kind of like the 1st trade but i'm not sure the kings really need Franson and I don't know where Richards would fit in on the leafs and I know Myers has a huge amount of potential to be a top pairing defenceman possibly soon but isn't a top 4 defenceman and a top 9 forward who still have potential as well as their second best prospect a little to much.
2.) 07 Jan 2015 21:19:17
Far from enough for Myers
3.) Just bad all around. Mike Richards is the type of guy you're trying to avoid. I wouldn't be upset with Dwight King, but not for Franson.
I would love to take a flyer on Myers, but I highly doubt Buffalo would do this trade and I would not want Toronto to give up a whole bunch more.
4.) If the leafs want Myers they are going to need to send VALUE. I know it might be hard for leafs fans to understand but Jake Gardiner and scraps won't get you a rare 6'7" stud D-Men.
5.) How much do you think it would take to get Myers? Just curious regardless though leafs are not in a position to give up a lot of assets
6.) I was clearly off on how much value Myers had on my 1st comment.
7.) 08 Jan 2015 12:22:04
Thats correct, CX, haha.
I think the Sabres would maybe want Nylander as a start for Myers and/or a 1st +
04 Nov 2014 03:43:46
carolina/toronto
leafs : kadri gardiner 3rd rd 2015 3rd rd pick 2016
carolina: Eric stall
1.) For Staal you won't get Kadri, you have to take Lupul
2.) Then Carolina declines.
3.) IMO it's the most Toronto should pay to get Staal, but it's not nearly enough from Carolina's perspective. Which is why the trade will not happen.
4.) @THEGR81 Agreed. Canes would want the first too. And at this price I'd be shocked if Toronto agrees. Maybe even Reilly.
5.) I still stand by a trade that looks something like this:
TOR: Phaneuf, Kadri, Lupul, prospect (Gauthier?), and 2nd
CAR: E Staal, J Staal, mid level pick (4th?)
I'm not quite sure about how this fits under the cap, but I think that TOR should be about $1M under and CAR should be about $4M under.
04 Nov 2014 03:06:24
Leafs/Flyers
1st--->
Leafs: Franson , Biggs, 4th (conditonal of franson resigning)
Flyers: B.Schenn
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THEN 2nd--->
Leafs/Jets
Leafs: Reimer, Kadri, 3rd rd pick
Jets: Bogosian , Frolik
1.) No sir smitty for just b schenn no thanks flyers need to add a lot eh!
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04 Feb 2014 02:27:37
Alot of leaf fans are calling for Kadri to be traded. The kid is 23 yrs old, he has 40 pts in 53 games this season and has 115 hits ( 2 less then zdeno chara).
comparable players.
GP-G-A-PTS-HITS- (+-)
nazim kadri --- 53 15 25 40 115 -9
logun couture-- 43 14 21 35 11 13
jakub voracek-- 56 14 24 38 13 -1
jordan eberle-- 56 19 26 45 40 -8
daniel sedin -- 56 13 27 40 24 +9
jason spezza-- 50 14 25 39 14 -22
ryan kesler-- 56 19 18 37 87 -6
eric staal-- 51 14 30 44 38 -9
ryan oriely-- 52 20 19 39 18 +7
need I say more? lay off the kid
1.) Couldn't agree more, only way I would trade him is if it was as part of a package for a top 5 centre and even then i'd be nervous about it biting me in the a$$
2.) 2 weeks ago you all wanted him traded but I agree leafs would be silly to trade him.
hab.
3.) I am not sure Leaf fans want to trade Kadri. A lot if posts are a reaction to something someone has read or heard on TV/Radio/online. So it's not shocking to see Kadri in trades here bc the rumor has been floating around about Nonis taking calls.
With this said, Nonis has said if he were to trade him, he wants a good player around the same age (like the JVR and Schenn trade). In other words if Kadri were traded the return would be parallel in terms of potential
4.) People need to stop with the all you leaf fans and all leaf fans comments. Because a few posted something, does that speak for a fan base? Again, surprised at you hab.
5.) ^ get used to it buddy. this website is rampant with people who make unilateral comments and wild assumptions based on a few random posts (that they can't confirm were written by a LEaf fan).
it's ridiculous. but take in comfort in knowing you're substantially smarter than those people
6.) You got to stop responding to every post with "just because a couple people said it doesn't mean all leaf fans said it"most leaf fans were saying to trade him a few weeks ago and every media figure following the leafs was reporting he was being shopped and close to being traded. so it wasn't just 2 or 3 kids writing stuff on the internet
hab.
7.) @ hab
i hear you. and I understand that side of it. I will say this. There is probably some leaf fans that want Kadri gone. There are probably some leaf fans that believe, what most of the anti-leafs posters want you to believe. I acknowledge that.
However, 99% of the time, it's a ridiculous assumption that's being drawn from a poor source and sample size. There is no way the whole of leafs nation ascends on this website daily and posts trades that accurately reflect their views. I am sure there are some leaf fans that post trades. and I am sure some leaf fans that have ridiculous points of view. And I am sure that some of those fans have posted trades on this site. But you can't seriously believe that those few leaf fans represent even a small % of what leaf fans collectively believe.
I have seen more Subban trades in the last two weeks than I have ever seen on this website, yet I have not once thought to myself - all habs fans want to trade Subban. Want to know why? bc I am smart enough to use an objective point of view to form an opinion v. the people that form an opinion based on junk they read on the internet. It's illogical. and I will call people out every time they do it. and You're better than that.
Further more, posting a trade suggestion for a player, doesn't mean you WANT to trade him. Like you pointed out, there has been a lot of talk in the media about Kadri being sought after and Nonis taking calls etc. I pointed this out in another post, that most trade ideas on this website tend to follow some report from somewhere (i. e. Vanek, Miller, Callahan etc. ). But again, this is hardly definitive proof that leaf fans want to trade Kadri. In fact, for every kadri trade proposed, there are generally 4 or 5 responses saying - "don't trade him. Or don't trade him unless the return is a #1 C". And this largely happens with most Leaf trades that appear outrageous (leaf fans say no this is wrong), but is always overlooked by those that want to push the agenda of "all leaf fans think this way".
Final point, this website is a place where people post made up trades, that are largely just for fun. Outside of a small sample of people, most people know that what is posted here has little to no connection to what will happen in the real world. So again, I go back to the point I made above about how people draw conclusions from a poor source.
GR81
8.) You know as well as I do what i'm saying about kadri is right so why are you writing this big story to try and prove me wrong. all the talk a few weeks back was leafs should trade kadri, from fans and media i'm not saying you said it or this guy said it. but the majority of leaf followers either wanted him traded or didn't mind seeing him traded.
hab.
9.) I don't know that the majority of leaf fans wanted to move Kadri and I am not trying to prove you wrong. I am just showing you the flaw in the logic applied by people that make unilateral claims about Leaf fans. Bottom line, if you're using what you read on here to help back up your claim - you're making a terrible assumption. T
and you know as well as I do (based on the previous chatter about Liles, Clarkson etc. ) if the leaf fans you're referring to really wanted him gone, a lot of the trades would have been putting Kadri in trades that would move him, not Kadri in package for a #1 C.
GR81
10.) You bring up a good point there about clarkson so right now you would agree most leaf fans would love to see clarkson traded I assume. but this summer he was the best fa signing of the summer and was going to turn the leafs into a contender. [yes I read and heard numerous posts of that nature on here among other places]. the only point i'm trying to make with you is how easily and quickly it appears some leaf fans turn on there own players. to be 100% honest I blame it on the media there. montreal media when I was young was always considered the worst in the nhl, but now its got to be toronto. seems like not having a contender has really chilled out the media in montreal maybe the toronto media should relaxe a little too.
hab.
11.) ALL of the people you mentioned have been injured or clearly having an off year
12.) @hab
I won't disagree with you there. I think SOME Toronto fans turn on their players quickly. I think SOME Toronto fans want to trade Kadri. I agree about the media but let's face it, it's an over-exposed market.
Clarkson is a great example. Yes, people post that they want Clarkson gone. Yes people have posted that Clarkson was the best FA signing (not sure about the contender part) but yeah let's say that's what people said. I will whole heartedly agree with you that people posted that on this website. But what I won't do is assume, based on those posts that every leaf fan or even a majority of leaf fans held or hold the same belief about Clarkson or what he brings/brought to the team. I also won't pretend that I know what a large group of people are thinking based on what I read on the internet. We can agree to disagree on that point. I just won't do it.
And to be fair to you, you're not the problem. It's all the other a$$ hats that post ridiculous comments about what all leaf fans think.
13.) All teams fans turn on their players, of course it's the media that makes it worse in Toronto. I actually got Clarkson on my jersey immediately after signing and will continue to stick behind him. On the other hand, I am not a fan of Kadri. Obviously Kadri has more talent, but if you could trade him for a talented player with the heart of Clarkson, I'd do it every time. He grew up idolizing Wendel Clark, good enough for me. This is the last time you'll hear me defend Clarkson but it's not his fault they paid him so much, other teams offered too. I'd jump in to defend the teams star player too! He's not playing with Kovalchuck and with the injuries the leafs had, he has been with different players all the time. If he was on the 2nd line with Kadri and Lupul on a regular basis, he would produce. Not 30 goals, but 20 would be possible over the season. I'm not giving up on Kadri, I just don't like his attitude.
Leafs17
02 Feb 2014 22:11:19
canada trades--. chris kunitz
usa trades --. 5 cases of beer, 4 dozen donuts, 3 packs of cigars, 2 tickets to the super bowl and 1 two for one movie coupon
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Canada then adds Martin St. louis to the team and beats team USA in the finals 7-0
1.) I like it good deal for Canada
hab.
2.) I'm curious, do you think that the finals are 7-0, and that USA has a chance.
Plus if Kunitz-Crosby-Stamkos works out that'll be deadly. If Kunitz doesn't then he doesn't play another shift
-KGL
3.) You do realize Kunitz is on pace for 40 goals right?
4.) I would be on pace for 40 goals if I played on a line with Crosby.
5.) ^But your not.
6.) ^But he could be.
7.) Which team do you play for?
8.) I good with that trade as long as the beer is from Canada
Richards is playing 4th line minutes on la. He is far from a 4th line player. He would slot into top 6 on the leafs. Leafs would obviously need to make a second trade. richards has better Corsi/ possesion numbers then all but 2 players on the leafs. Exact player leafs need. ( - the 5 year term left )
Looking at it from a Jets POV.
-Jets looking for offence
-Gardiner & Bogosian are the same age
-Lupol a solid top 6 forward when healthy
-Jets have cap space
Leafs POV
- top 4 defenceman with great corsi #'s., most likely slot into top 2
- Salary cap space
* Leafs would need to make another trade to solidify there top 6. ( RYAN O RIELLY?? )
BOOOM
@ OILGUY
Peter chiarelli has been the joke of the league since the sequin trade.
^^^^^^^^^^^
maybe;
toronto--> bolland, D'amigo, 3rd rd
vancouver--> kesler
Although it would be fun to hear the commentators mess around with kessel and kesler. I would stick with bolland instead of giving up kadri, gardiner & a draft pick to boot. ( 3 yrs younger, 2 cups, winning pedigre, similar numbers other then 2 years kesler will never have again)