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12 Jun 2018 00:52:26
Montreal resigns Pacioretty to 5 year 6.5 to 7 mill a year deal,, then trade him and a prospect or draft pick to buffalo for O'Reilly. Cap wise that would only cost Montreal 3 mill between the 2 contracts. So that leaves 17 to 14 mill left in cap depending on if it goes up 5 or 8 million this year. Then draft Zadina to replace Pacioretty on LW. So now you got a good center and cap room to still sign Tavares or another center or even a top d man. That would make the team competitive again right away.


1.) 12 Jun 2018 13:33:06
Again sign and trades do not happen there for this deal will not happen.

2.) 13 Jun 2018 01:40:41
Zadina mostly plays RW. If MTL needed a LW/ C they would take Tkachuk.



06 Aug 2017 20:22:10
3 team trade. Vegas is sitting just under 6 mill under the cap with 11 nhl d men signed this year. 8 of them being 28 or younger. Colorado has 3 nhl d men signed right now. Montreal needs a center. Complicated trade. Lol.

So, vegas sends 2 d men to Colorado under 28.

Montreal sends 3 draft picks to vegas.

Montreal gets Dushene. Montreal also sends goalie Mcnevien to Colorado.

So Colorado gets 2 nhl d men under 28 and goalie Mcnevien.

Vegas gains some cap space and 3 draft picks. And Mobtreal gets Dushene for ots center


1.) 07 Aug 2017 00:14:10
Which d men?

2.) 07 Aug 2017 05:15:28
What the hell is this?

3.) 07 Aug 2017 11:41:30
this is a train wreck,

4.) 07 Aug 2017 22:26:44
Doesn't even matter what D men it is, this is brutal.

5.) 08 Aug 2017 01:10:56
Random den lol.

6.) 08 Aug 2017 15:43:31
Vegas has signed this year 3 veteran d men. Plus these 8. Luca sbisa age 27, nate schmidt 26, brayden mcnabb 26, john merrili 25, vokin miller 24, shea theadore 22, griffan reinhart 23, and brad hunt 28. So that's 11 nhl d men signed this year. Colorado currently has 3 signed.

7.) 08 Aug 2017 15:44:35
So leafs make a trade for McDavid.

Toronto has a lot of forwards signed under contract. Edmonton only 1 head coach so Toronto trades a couple of forwards 1 defensman and a few draft picks for McDavid.

8.) 08 Aug 2017 22:06:26
Makes perfect sense.

9.) 09 Aug 2017 17:09:56
Col has 3 signed in Barrie, Johnson and barberio, plus zadorov is an rfa, whose new deal hopefully is announced within the next week. Plus with mironov signed, who's played the last 5 years in the K, that's 5. Plus they're going to give a number of young guys a look in bigras, lindholm, Siemens and meloche. Just because the avs don't have one way contracts doesn't mean they don't have defenseman. They may not be the best, but a hell of a lot better than trading duchene for a couple of journeyman. Also there are plenty of these quality defenseman that are still free agents, so why trade for them? When someone like franson, polak or jokipakka can be had for nothing?



04 Jan 2017 16:14:42
Ok. here's one. Colorado trades matt dushene to montreal for. Plecky, Beaulieu, juulsen and a second round pick. Colorado gets center back to replace dushene. Plus 2 young d man they want and a pick. This would work cap wise as plecky and dushene make the same and Colorado has just about 4 mill open to take Beaulieu 1 mill cap hit. Montreal gets 25 year old center it needs.


1.) 04 Jan 2017 17:00:13
And the amount of times iv seen this exact trade lol.
Colorado will not trade Duchene to Habs unless Sergachev is coming back.

2.) 04 Jan 2017 18:08:12
Colorado would want an impact defenseman back and neither of those are impact d men. I don't think Montreal has the peices to aquire Duchene. Also quantity does not equal quality so stop with these terrible MTL trades.

3.) 04 Jan 2017 18:19:56
I think us Habs fans need to realize, there isn't many assets in Montreal. not tradeable ones anyway.
Ya. We can say Juulsen McCaron. ect. the only one that could get Habs a star is Sergachev. and with an aging D core, and prospect pool that isn't deep., I can't see Bergevin parting with him. and the other guys., just aren't enough to land a star.
I think what we have. is what we have, baring minor tweaks.

4.) 05 Jan 2017 00:01:19
I agreee with sosahabs24 but honestly the thing is, if Bergevin doesn't win the cup in the next 2 years he knows he's in trouble. And i doubt Sergachev would have an impact on the team before 2 years anyways. Bergevin might be tempted to go all in do Sergachev, Pleky for Duchene etc. Personnaly i'm indecisive, on one hand i know Sergachev is a blue chip prospect and on the other Matt Duchene is one of my favourite players, speed skill vision. Does he really commit to the "all in" or does he not, that's the question.



10 Jan 2016 17:50:04
Montreal trades both Markov and plecky for 2nd round pics and to clear up 12 mill in cap. Then goes after stamkos. or say trades a 2nd round pick and prospects to jets for big buff. And then trades Carolina for stall for the other 2nd round pick and fucale and tinordi. boom.


1.) 10 Jan 2016 18:35:47
No point in trading away Plekanec then going after staal. Plekanec is putting up better numbers and is by far more effective this year.

2.) 10 Jan 2016 19:43:52
yep boom, that was awful.

3.) 11 Jan 2016 06:05:44
Plecky does good in regular season. But is invisible in playoffs. Stall is upgrade for playoff run.

4.) 11 Jan 2016 22:43:45
smoke another one no one will take on that much salary.



17 Sep 2015 18:08:00
Montreal trades thomas plekanec, Jared tinodi, Micheal bornival, and a 2nd round pick to Carolina for Eric stall, and a 3rd round pic


1.) 17 Sep 2015 18:18:29
what is the incentive for CAR here? the 2nd rounder? lol

2.) 17 Sep 2015 18:26:36
They trade centers. both getting new starts from only team they only played for. Carolina gets 2 nhl ready prospects and trade a 3rd pic for a 2nd.

3.) 17 Sep 2015 20:24:51
plekanec has no use to CAR, expiring contract and doest fit a rebuild age-wise. the prospects are far from quality and players like what they are projected to be can be found pretty much anywhere (many still available in free agency or were only offered PTO's), and moving up 10 spots or so in a draft isn't incentive enough at all, since CAR will likely have ealry round choices while MTL will more than likley have later round choices.

4.) 17 Sep 2015 21:31:40
well considering plekanec out played stall in pretty much every aspect of the game last year and tinordi is a former 1st round pick and bournival would easily be a 3rd or 4th line player on Carolina i'd say its pretty close value for stall and his 8.5 mil deal if Carolina wants anymore then this they can keep him as far as i'm concerned

5.) 17 Sep 2015 22:39:52
This deal would be a steal for Montreal. Carolina says no, add something of value to them in their rebuild. You can't just offer up a bunch of stuff you don't want to a team for arguably their best player when they need pieces for a rebuild. Think a little before you post.

6.) 17 Sep 2015 22:53:28
then i'm sure they'll keep him, or even better, trade him for things that will help him long term.

tinordi is 23 years old now and has yet to even come close to establishing himself as a regular nhl player and is entering the "bust" category, if you will.

bournival, like you say, is a bottom 6 forward at best. those players are not hard to find.

7.) 18 Sep 2015 06:31:28
true Shankar its not a blow your mind package being offered in the proposal from a habs perspective but I think eric stall and his massive salary are getting a little bit overvalued by a lot of people I mean a step up from this would be if the habs offered plekanec beaulieau McCarron and a 2nd for stall you might say its fair and I would say its ludicrous

8.) 18 Sep 2015 07:13:25
staal does come with a large cap hit, but its only for this season, and f it were to be done around the deadline, the team getting him would only need something like 2 million or so in room. for what he has the skill to bring, that's not much at all, especially if the team trading for him believes they'll be able to sign him to a more realistic contract.

thats not to say he has the value he did a few years back, but he should still be able to bring in a very nice return if CAR does decide to move him.

9.) 18 Sep 2015 15:26:26
Eric Staal is a great 1st line center, he's just on a bad team.

He's worth a roster player, mid 1st Round, and a B prospect IMO.

I believe any package for Staal would be around. Tomas Plekanec, Nathan Beaulieu, and a 1st Round pick. Possibly more added

10.) 20 Sep 2015 00:38:13
I would not trade for stall cause he had past is prime! Even if montreal steal This trade, we would lose him at the end of the years cause the guy want 8 million a year!




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11 Jun 2018 11:36:08
Montreal resigns patches for 6 years 6.5 to 7 mill a year. Then trades patches and our lowest 2nd round pick from Washington, or a prospect to buffalo for ryan o'rilley. . Cap wise o'rilley makes 7.5 a year while patches made 4.5 till so only adds 3 million to cap. Then draft zadinov with 3rd overall pic to replace patches on the left wing. Now we still would have 17 to 14 mill left in cap. So could still bid for Tavares or stasney. And still have money to do a trade or 2 on defense and the team is competitive again.


1.) 11 Jun 2018 15:50:40
Sign and trades don’t happen. Never happened in the nhl and never will. It’s a classless move.

2.) 11 Jun 2018 20:07:17
Did you just create a new prospect by combining Evgeni Dadonov ans filip Zadina? Lol also, no better way to lose credibility as a management than to sign your captain to a long deal and immediately ship him to buffalo lol that’s one way to ensure no loyalty or discounts in contract negotiations from every other player on that roster and incoming UFAs for years to come.

3.) 11 Jun 2018 21:16:13
Only reason it would ever happen is for the extra year the team can sign a player for. So the player would agree to the trade before signing. So in your scenario it just wouldn’t happen.




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08 Aug 2017 22:06:26
Makes perfect sense.




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08 Aug 2017 15:43:31
Vegas has signed this year 3 veteran d men. Plus these 8. Luca sbisa age 27, nate schmidt 26, brayden mcnabb 26, john merrili 25, vokin miller 24, shea theadore 22, griffan reinhart 23, and brad hunt 28. So that's 11 nhl d men signed this year. Colorado currently has 3 signed.




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26 Dec 2016 19:17:17
Cap wise for duchene they would have to take plecky . so throw in juulsen and maybe that would work.




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14 Jun 2016 19:58:09
Good deal.




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11 Jan 2016 06:05:44
Plecky does good in regular season. But is invisible in playoffs. Stall is upgrade for playoff run.





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