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11 Aug 2018 18:10:28
Hey leafs17 do you think they win the cup? Cause I don't care to argue about it?

madeindade28

1.) 11 Aug 2018 19:57:50
Not this year but thanks for asking. Do you think Florida will? Cause I don’t care to argue about it.


 

 

04 Aug 2018 01:23:03
Hey unbiasedjim when do you think Toronto will win it's next cup? I'm just wondering cause I think Tampa will win the division for awhile!. stamkos > Tavares kuch > anyone on the leafs!

madeindade28

1.) 04 Aug 2018 01:52:05
Oh and I forgot to add the laughable defense players!


2.) 04 Aug 2018 01:57:17
I know this is an attempt to troll but that division is going to be real tight for a long time. going to be two of the top teams in the league duking it out for years taking turns winning the division.


3.) 04 Aug 2018 04:02:35
Well first off Mathews> Tavares I really don’t want to get into this but if you didn’t know you’ll see after this season.

Also Hedman>Kucherov>Stamkos.

I’ll do a more fair break down.

Mathews vs Kuch= Easily Mathews C>W plus age and Mathews is much better Defensively

Tavares vs Stamkos= Tavares is the better all around player but Stamkos is better offensively but with that being said Tavares never really had anyone to play with compared to Stamkos so you can debate Tavares is better also Stamkos is a Ghost come playoff time

Marner Vs Point Is this even a debate? Marner is so much more Dynamic but I guess Point is better defensively

Nylander vs JT Miller. Nylander=Point imo.

Kardri vs Tampa’s 3C?

Tor Offensive Depth>Tampa’s

Rielly=McDonagh

Hedman>>>>>>>>>> anyone in the Leafs dcore

Tampa’s defense is much better.

Vais>Anderson he’s the Russian Price.

Babcock>>> Cooper ( IMO )

Tampa’s the better team now but definitely not offensively.


4.) 04 Aug 2018 04:37:14
Tampa should be better offensively, defensively and in net. But it is tampa we are talking about and they were suppose to win the cup the last 3 or 4 years.


5.) 04 Aug 2018 06:34:21
VB while i understand your points your post is full of bias. Btw HERO charts are much more in favour of Kucherov defensively than Matthews. I know its not end all be all with their metrics but they have Matthews as a negative defensive player and Kuch positive. i'm not saying i believe matthews is a bad defensive player but i think he's probably not as good as you think and your really discrediting Kucherovs play. I understand Toronto added a huge piece in Tavares. Tampa also scored more than anyone last year and i think offense v offense could be closer than you think.


6.) 04 Aug 2018 06:39:12
Tampa is better than Toronto in every department, not debatable at all. Stamkos, Kucherov and Point are better than Matthews, Tavares and Marner easily. Hedman and McDonagh are far better than any Toronto defenseman including Reilly. Vasilevsky is better and more consistent than Anderson. Tampa no question.


7.) 04 Aug 2018 06:54:13
Also forgot to mention Sergachev who is also at worst equal to Reilly. Tampa is the superior team without question.


8.) 04 Aug 2018 07:11:42
JBS well I was not aware of that but still anyone would take Mathews over Kuch long term. Fair points tho also I feel like Tampa’s obviously close but they don’t have the ability to roll 3 equal lines. Like Toronto that’s my opinion obviously you can make an argument but as a Tampa fan who I believe has a strong general knowledge on the NHL you even have to admit this guy dosent have a clue about what he’s talking about.

Memarcusjoe- you have no idea what you’re talking about lol. You proposed Trouba for Zandina.


9.) 04 Aug 2018 07:17:10
VB wearing the TOR glasses and memarcusjoe spitting bs to mock leafs fans. jbs is def the closest in his evaluation.
Matthews is still overhyped, Kucherov is def the better player right now. Marner might be a little more dynamic offensively, but you guys should not take away too much from Point as well. He finished 8th in Selke voting in his sophomore season and quietly got mid 60 points along with that. Hard to find a better 2C.
Oh TBs 3C would prolly be Johnson then, don't think he's far behind Kadri if at all.
As for D, Hedman is easily the best D on both teams. Overall, TBs D is def better than Torontos, Rielly is a solid #1 guy as well, tho.
And as almost anyone said, Vasy > Andersen.


10.) 04 Aug 2018 07:27:29
Vbbb,
I've never proposed a Trouba trade on here. Sorry, you didn't like an objective evaluation of Tampa and Toronto.


11.) 04 Aug 2018 12:44:54
I’m biased, but here goes nothing:

Stamkos = Tavares (Always been like this for me, even before JT signed, they both are mature #1Cs with great talent)

Matthews Point (Points good, but I think Marner is a much greater offensive threat. Marner didn’t finish the year PPG because his first 30ish games had him struggle on a line w Bozak/ JVR, which just wasn’t working. He’s good for 80+ this year imo)

Nylander > Gourde (Nylanders more experienced and Nylander seems as if he can carry a line better than Gourde can)

Kadri >> Johnson (Kadri is probably the best 3C in the league, and Johnson ain't even close to a comparable. Kadri is a good defensive player; has scored 30+ in back2back years and plays with tenacity)

Hyman.


12.) 04 Aug 2018 14:36:06
If I’m not mistaken Johnson was Points RW not the 3C am I correct? So I feel like it’d be fairer to compare Johnson to Nylander. I really don’t get how you can possibly take Mathews over Kucherov I’m sorry especially not long term. Watch for a 40 goal 50 Assist breakout season for Mathews.


13.) 04 Aug 2018 14:37:19
Hyman.


14.) 04 Aug 2018 15:04:30
Vbb even if he does break out for 40 goal 50 assist season that still only 90 pts kucherov just had 100 lol.


15.) 04 Aug 2018 16:27:12
Additionally, my other part of the post was.

Kucherov>AM
PointHyman
Palat>>Marleau
Johnsson, Kappy, Ennis, Brown, Lindholm >> Callahan, Erne, Andreoff, Killorn and Paquette.

Defense;
Hedman>>Mo
McD =>Gardiner
Serf >> Zaitsev
Stralman > Hainsey
Covurn.


16.) 04 Aug 2018 16:51:50
@TSS: Marner had just 3 points more than Point while I don't think we need to argue whos better defensively. As I said, Marners offensive potential is higher but not by as much as you apparently think it is. Also not sure how you conclude TORs bottom 6 is >> Tampas. I'd actually argue that TBs bottom 6 is slightly better.
TB: Gourde, Killorn, Cirelli, Callahan + whoever two guys earn their spot out of Erne, Paquette, Conacher, Andreoff, Stephens, Joseph, etc.
TOR: Johnsson, Kapanen, Brown, Ennis, Lindholm, Leivo, Hyman

@VB: See what Habby2 said.


17.) 04 Aug 2018 17:47:33
Bias joe with the bs as the triplets mentioned and is madeindade even a Tampa fan or just looking to start sh*t? Tampa is the better team right now and have been for a while. Their defense is much better and maybe a slight edge in goal. Saying that Stamkos, Kucherov and Point are better than Matthews, Tavares and Marner easily is an exaggeration. Last year the Tampa trio were 1.05 PPG while the Leafs trio was 0.96. Not too far off considering Marner played on the 4th line for a while. The Leafs trio is younger by like 7 years as well. I’d give the edge in forward depth to Toronto but yes Tampa should be the better team again this year.


18.) 04 Aug 2018 17:59:24
@Triplets, my post is getting cut off someways, but as for the Marner thing, I think Marner really has 80ish point potential. He struggled immensely during the start of the year and was over PPG during the last 55+ games. Having him play with JT will help nonetheless as well.

And, for the bottom six, I was going off of the six worst forwards who will be in the starting twelve on the team.

Toronto; Hyman, Johnsson, Kapanen, Ennis, Brown, Lindholm
TB; Cirelli, Callahan, Killorn, Erne, Paquette, Johnson.

Cirelli and Kap wash, Killorn and Hyman wash, Lindholm/ Paquette wash. Johnsson/ Ennis/ Brown i'd take over Callahan/ Johnson/ Erne, evn if Johnson is the best player of the bunch.


19.) 04 Aug 2018 19:43:26
@triplets you forgot the back to back 30 goal scorer Kadri in the leafs bottom 6.


20.) 04 Aug 2018 20:21:32
Marner is better then Kucherov when they both were 21 hi think Marner has potential to get to the Kuch level statistically while Marner being the better play maker and Kucherov being the better scorer.


21.) 04 Aug 2018 21:16:10
Also Habby and Drais. Comparing Kuch to Mathews is like comparing Kane to Crosby. Yes Kane may out scoure Crosby but C>>>W.


22.) 04 Aug 2018 23:10:23
Yeah vbbb we know. But that whole center greater then everything else is a little overused. And before you or jim say something like how do you know montreal doesn't have a center or that's why montreal were bottom feeders last year. Just remember they made it to the conference finals with david freakin desharnais as there number 1 center. But yet the almighty matthews still hasn't got out of the 1st round lol. Yes I know that's the 3rd time I've mentioned that.


23.) 05 Aug 2018 01:06:45
Man this got out of hand fast. No debate both teams are very good and will continue to be for the near future. I think Kane v Crosby is a good comparison for matthews/ Kuch (except Matthews is not and likely never will be Crosby while Kuch is as good as Kane ever was) . Just hard to really compare but they are both excellent players. The original post also wasnt about individual player trade value it was overall level of team talent. Right now i'd take Kuch over Matthews, in 3 years who knows. Both teams have high end offensive talent and can roll 3 lines. Toronto probably has a slight edge. D leans Tampa imo but Torontos is much better than people on here give credit. Teams are close now with great systems and youth to remain that way for a long time barring anything unexpected.


24.) 05 Aug 2018 01:35:53
You really don’t like Matthews eh habby? He may not be almighty but he’s a pretty good player. I think you’d like him more if you stopped watching the habs and follow the leafs for a few years. It seems like you’re on the Tampa bandwagon instead though. That or you just want to argue with every leaf fan on here.


25.) 05 Aug 2018 04:55:50
I don't want to argue with every leaf fan just a select few . I actually like Matthews and know he's good but when people say stuff like he's the 2nd best defensive forward in the game I just throw up a little in my mouth and I have to try and bring them down to earth. leafs have a real good forward group but there is a slight edge to tampa IMO right now. Maybe not in a few years but who knows. defence is a landslide win for Tampa and so is goaltending.


26.) 05 Aug 2018 05:10:04
I don’t remember anyone saying he was the 2nd best defensive forward in the game but I’ll believe you. The way he strips players of the puck reminds me of “the magician”, Datsyuk. I’m not saying he’s anywhere near that level right now but he could be one day IMO. Anyways, Tampa is the better team on paper and have been for a while, who knows what will happen on the ice.


27.) 05 Aug 2018 05:28:49
Okay 1st of all I’d like to apologize I meant Malkin not Crosby my honest mistake. Mathews won’t be as good as Crosby.

Now Habby when did I ever flame the habs aside from Bergivan I wouldn’t say I’m a huge hab hater. Also Mathews has been in the year for two years. He stepped in the league as an 18 year old 1c for the last place team the season prior and carried the team on his back to a playoff birth. He brought them there once again in a injury plagued season. In two years he made the playoffs twice. That’s like you putting down McDavid for not making the playoffs it’s a team sport 1 player can’t do it all. I think you should watch Mirical on ice to teach you 1 player can’t win a championship.


28.) 05 Aug 2018 05:30:28
Vbb said he was the best defensive forward to come along since bergeron. I wonder what players like kopitar toews and about 30 others would have to say about that lol. but your right leafs17 we can only judge them on paper cause nobody knows what will happen. They may not even have to meet in the playoffs. Probably Vegas wins the cup this or Washington repeats eventhough the team they have now is nowhere near as good on paper as they were 3 an 4 years ago when they would choke in the playoffs every year.


29.) 05 Aug 2018 05:42:53
Vbb I never had an issue with your hab hating it was your extreme overvaluing of leaf players. you know like how great a defensive forward matthews is yet hasn't even come close to be considered for the selke. How your predicting marner will reach kucherov level yet he hasn't even come real close to ppg season yet. How matthews after two decent seasons is somehow comparible to jean beliveau. And how he is easily better then kucherov. I could go on and on but I think you get the point. Now be like bias jim and go make a childish ween bag post cause someone disagreed with you.


30.) 05 Aug 2018 05:57:29
Okay now when did I ever make a childish post why are you talking out of context like that. I said he’s one of the best young defensive forwards sense Bergeron and 20 year olds don’t run for the Selke we'll revisit that in 5 years. We'll revisit the Marner discussion in 4 years and I say the Béliveau comparison because I believe Mathews will be a much more dominant player then Gilmore and Sundin but we’ll visit that in 10 years but yah.


31.) 05 Aug 2018 06:32:47
For the record i'm with Leaf fans here because the initial post was so ridiculous. Wasnt really trying to argue with VB that original post was right just that leafs don't hands down beat the bolts offense. Are the leaf fans on here biased? Yes. So is literally everyone on here everyone is biased in favour of their teams at least most people here are willing to have a dialog and listen to the other side.


32.) 05 Aug 2018 08:16:13
@TSS: I agree that Marner has 80ish potential. Maybe even 90 in a perfect world. But if Point got 65 or so in his second year, why can't he get 70-75 in coming years. And I'm not sure whether I'd prefer 80 points + Marners D (not saying its bad but certainly not in the Selke convo) or 70 points and a top 5 Selke finish.

I was using the worst 6 F on each team as well. Debateable whether to include Johnson or Gourde, doesn't really make a big difference anyways.

And as jbs said, everyone is prolly a bit biased towards their team, but for me I'd say Cirelli > Kapanen, Killorn > Hyman, Lindholm = Paquette, and Johnson, Callahan, Erne/ Conacher def > Brown, Ennis, Johnsson.

It's all very close basically bringing me to what jbs said: TORs offence definitely doesn't beat TBs offence as easily as some Leafs fans seem to think. Both have 7-8 scoring threats easily and solid depth players.

@Leafs17: No, I didn't. As TSS said, we compared the 6 worst F on each team.


33.) 05 Aug 2018 13:48:55
@TT

Thats fair. We all have differencing opinions and its understandable. All I know for sure is that, as JBS said, Toronto vs. Tampa, no matter if Toronto upgrades their d or not, will be fun to watch. Both offenses are so loaded it’ll be exciting. And as for comparing Marner/ Point, since I watch Marner more, I just see so much upside that its hard for me to change my mind on him. ANd same with the bottom six argumenr, we both watch our respective teams more, so it makes sense we’d be slightly biased towards them. In all though, as I mentioned before, the Atlantic is going to be a fun division with Tampa, TORonto and Buffalo.

@JBS

Man yeah, the thread really went out to lunch, lol. I’d agree with you on that stance, that TOR’s offense is better by a slight margin, TBs defense is better by a wider margin, and goaltending is close to even. ANd thank you for saying it, TOs dcore isn't actually as bad as people make it out to be. Weren’t we like 12th in GA? that's pree good imo. Obviously not a top5 dcore, but if they are competent enough to eep the puck out of our net, i'm good with them.


34.) 05 Aug 2018 15:00:43
Ok vbb let's just wait 4 or 5 or 10 years before we crown them all legends then. That's all I've been trying to say since the start.


35.) 05 Aug 2018 17:33:20
Leafs I’m far from a Toronto fan I live in Miami and go for the panthers but I like reading all the crybaby Toronto fans on here so yes I started this so I could see y’all cry and it worked! Good job please keep commenting though all your excuses are funny.


36.) 05 Aug 2018 18:05:07
Everyone already knew just how crazy biased VB was. This post solidified any questions on that.


37.) 05 Aug 2018 18:37:22
I guess you have a lot to cheer about madeadouche28.


38.) 05 Aug 2018 19:17:06
Hey guys, we should act nice to @made.

He’s an endangered species, a Panther Fan. They’rr Rare to find in the wild and even rarer to find online. Shhhhhh. We should keep him happy.


39.) 05 Aug 2018 19:54:03
Topshelfslappers go ahead bro be nice to me! I live in Miami you probably live is some craphole canada I’ll take it! And leafsfan17 I was already cheering before you tards started posting.


40.) 05 Aug 2018 20:00:53
Where’s Jim? I’m so happy I’m not a leafs fan!


41.) 05 Aug 2018 20:33:17
craphole canada, that’s a good one. make america great again.


42.) 06 Aug 2018 03:50:30
Atleast I don’t think Lucic is a capable top 6 forward. That’s more biased then anything I said.

@yup.


43.) 06 Aug 2018 18:05:31
And there ya go again always reading and not understanding.
I've always said I would love to play Lucic in a third line role with Strome this season, but paying him what he's making that's not the best option. If we want him to succeed he need to play with Drai in a second line role and step up this season. So in saying that I hope to god he can step up again this season with at least 50 points.
He's certainly not an AHL player like you say tho.

So, read slowly, I think he would be best suited for a third line role. But I have to hope to god he can put up 50 points with Drai in a second line role.


44.) 06 Aug 2018 18:08:27
Anyways, I'm not crazy biased of every player on my team like you and the Leafs in this thread.


45.) 06 Aug 2018 20:19:03
Leafs offense top to bottom I’d say is better but tampa has some game breakers with more big game experience. Defense isn’t even close obviously and goaltending, personally think is pretty close.

I could realistically see both these teams winning multiple cups in the next handful of years and yet at the exact same time I wouldn’t be shocked if neither had a single one after 5 years. That’s the way it goes in a 31 team league. How many times has the best team on paper won the cup in the salary cap era?

Washington has been the best team on paper and throughout the regular season for 5 or 6 years now and never won the cup. Then this year they are down 2 games to none on the road in the first round, go to double OT in game 3 and CBJ hits the post before caps score. That would have most likely sealed their fate yet again.

That’s how narrow the margin of error is in the league and so I wouldn’t guarantee any cups for any team. In saying that, if I was to handicap teams of who I feel have the best chance to win multiple cups, both these teams would be on a pretty short list.


46.) 06 Aug 2018 20:21:45
But yup you don't understand it's much more possible for marner to have a 100 point season then lucic to get 50 because lucic has only hit 50 points 5 times before in his career while marner has hit 100.wait oh yeah! Lol.


47.) 06 Aug 2018 21:43:00
Marner will score 75 next year I’m calling it right now. I said he could potentially reach the Kane/ Kucherov potential.


48.) 07 Aug 2018 00:47:04
Yeah I could see him scoring 75 that's not a stretch at all.


49.) 07 Aug 2018 05:08:15
I also like how 40 goals at 19 years old and 34 (62 games, 44 goal pace) at 20 years old are ‘decent years’ lol if those are ‘decent years’ than no kid but mcdavid has had ‘good years’ in the last 10. Even Laines years must be just ok lol come on. If kotkaniemi only puts up 75 goals and 150 pts through 2 seasons, I’m sure you wouldn’t think that’s better than decent, right?


50.) 07 Aug 2018 05:43:25
Of course I would think it's better just like you would say matthews 2 season were better cause of some lameo reason like he hates to lose more then anybody else lol.


51.) 07 Aug 2018 13:55:59
Actually you said he wasn’t competitive. I said look when he loses, he hates to lose and is a very competitive guy.

You might not recognize that because since Weber/ Drouin/ shaw etc have been there, they haven’t won enough games to have expectations. It’s easy not to look disappointed if you don’t think you’re going to win from the start.

Like Ryan Oreilly in buffalo saying he has become comfortable losing. It’s all circumstance.


52.) 07 Aug 2018 15:19:47
Your incredible man. I didn't say he wasn't competitive you said he was the most competitive you ever saw or something like that I just asked why you consider him more competitive then a guy like marner who actually showed up in the playoffs. Also marner didn't have to get babcock to come over to his house for a sleep over this summer and assure him everything will be ok. Lol.


53.) 07 Aug 2018 20:42:51
Thank you all for a great read over my lunch break.
To be honest, not much surprised me, but can't believe the depth of prospects between the two teams.
Lets refuel the fire and get this going again shall we?
P. S. leave my team out of this, we're sh! t, lol. But that DD comment did make me laugh.


54.) 08 Aug 2018 00:29:58
Lets not start comparing off ice issues with habs and leafs lol subbans fights with coaches and management. Then galchenyuks, now apparently Paccioretty.

And those are just the premier guys. Other smaller ones in between like smith pelley who they made The scapegoat and shipped him out when both him and galchenyuk apparently were involved in a fight where galchenyuk ended up being beat up by his girlfriend.

If Matthews, because of this disagreement with Babcock, gets traded for someone far older and tired like subban was, or someone far less talented like galchenyuk was, and then it happens twice more with different players, I’ll take that point as valid lol.


55.) 08 Aug 2018 05:58:03
Yes cause the leafs have just been a perfectly ran organization over the years lol. You do realize the leafs had a franchise before the 16-17 season right?


56.) 08 Aug 2018 14:25:52
You brought up Matthews/ Babcock meeting. That’s recent. That’s this core and this management team. Everythig I just said was with habs core since their current management team took over.

But you win Habby lol leafs are a mess. Matthews isn’t a top centre. Our goaltending sucks. And we should look to Montreal for the key to success because your analysis of players is gospel. I mean who could have predicted when we argued over patches last year that he wasn’t worth a roster player, top prospect and first? No one ever could have said he was just a good complimentary player that wouldn’t get a huge return, right? That would be impossible to predict. So when you were so right about that, I should have just agreed with you right away on the Matthews thing. I apologize. You win.


57.) 08 Aug 2018 15:21:38
See how this works when a habs fan talks about how much better their franchise has been compared to the leafs franchise it usually the leaf fan that tells them to stop living in the past nice to see it changing around lol. Sort of like how when discussing matthews his value is inflated because of his lesser line mates. but when pacioretty can score 30+ goals every year on a line with desharnais it means nothing. And in some way it makes him worse lol. I find it hard to keep up with your change in opinion jim. lol.


 

 

02 Jun 2018 23:22:57
Chuck max p and Weber for a 2nd rd pick

madeindade28

1.) 03 Jun 2018 13:44:57
Great deal I happen to find your thought process very well thought out and it was excuted perfectly.


 

 

27 Apr 2018 01:59:53
Alright one week with no Canadian team trades this website has got so bad lately try trades from American teams! Ya know the franchises that are actually winning now! And no Winnipeg will lose in 5

madeindade28

1.) 28 Apr 2018 04:40:44
Funny, go ahead and count the number of Canadian players on teams like Vegas, Nashville, Pittsburg, San Jose, Tampa Bay. all these teams have majority Canadian players. little food for thought for ya, it’s not the geographical locations of these teams that makes them good it’s where their best players are from.


 

 

28 Jan 2017 06:16:48
Hey guys I was just wondering if y'all were Minnesota what do ya do for the expansion with zucker playing good.

madeindade28

1.) 28 Jan 2017 14:24:41
Trade him to Montreal for a pick. Lol. Honestly don't know. was reading about the Wilds issues in regards to expansion. going to be a tough one.
Personally think its unfair to past expansion teams like the Wild. took them years to be competitive due to there draft. I wonder if the expansion draft woulda been so friendly to the new team, had Quebec got a team. doubt it.


2.) 28 Jan 2017 18:57:33
Are you saying that if an expansion team had been in Quebec they wouldn't have initiated the same expansion draft rules? Conspiracy theorize much? 😆


3.) 28 Jan 2017 23:02:34
Exactly what i'm saying. Bettman is so proud of himself for being first big league team in Vegas. he's going to make sure its competitive ASAP. I jus don't think its fair to all other recent expansion teams. like. took them awhile to become competitive. mainly were able to draft washed up journeymen. This team could get some really good players


4.) 29 Jan 2017 00:16:56
I hope they take scandella or brodin I like them both but I don't wanna lose dumba zucker Nino or spergeon. that's just my opinion


5.) 29 Jan 2017 02:33:57
Any concept of fairness isn't really relevant in this expansion because there's only one team entering. If there were multiple teams entering and each had to follow different rules, then that's unfair because one set would almost surely be more advantageous than the other. However, there is one team entering and one set of rules. Having one set of rules that applies to all is the definition of fair.

I know what you're trying to say in that this version of the expansion rules is more advantageous to the team entering than past versions; however, that's entirely irrelevant. The idea is to have the best system in place and if changes have to be made to get that, then that's perfectly fine.


6.) 29 Jan 2017 03:50:10
I guess i'm jus a hater on this whole Vegas thing. Lol. don't like it at all.


 

 

 

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Haha jets fans are funny, when y’all turn into Toronto?

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08 Sep 2018 18:02:54
if everyone’s trades are so bad why don’t you post a trade him? You are so easy to criticize but you don’t back it up. Be a man make a reasonable Toronto trade.

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27 Aug 2018 11:50:19
You’re the main reason people troll leafs fans! But it’s easy and fun so keep going, good luck next yr losing again!

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13 Aug 2018 22:00:48
Wow that’s a ugly defense! Better home that offense scores 5 a game.

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07 Aug 2018 22:31:21
Carolina needs wingers they are not just going to gift Toronto a better defenseman for a late 1st and Gardiner, try trading Nylander or marner for a stud dman.

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