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20 Jun 2018 03:27:48
Tor: Gardiner; fourth; neilson

Oil: Klefbom.


1.) 20 Jun 2018 10:25:36
Want a better if oilers trade klefbom.

2.) 20 Jun 2018 15:28:18
Not saying it’s a bad deal value wise because outside Gardiner, leafs aren’t giving much at all. But I just don’t see the point. He’s only 3 years younger, still shoots left, makes the same money. Could be better defensively, but way below Gardiner offensively. Only advantage would be the added term at a decent cap number. But the fact that Gardiner is done after this season is a positive I think for the leafs, with Karlsson and doughty free agent RHD, and OEL still not officially signed on the Left side. It leaves options open at least.

3.) 20 Jun 2018 23:42:13
No point from Edmonton. Rather keep Klef unless i was getting a solid winger or a RHD exchange



23 Jan 2018 23:29:19
Chi: Connor murphy
Tor: Garret Sparks

Not sure on the value here, but with crawford out they will be looking for someone to fill in and Sparks has been great in the Ahl this season. Toronto on the other hand gets that defensive minded rhd that fhey have been looking for and what's better he is locked in for a decent price. What yall think?


1.) 24 Jan 2018 00:00:45
Pretty easy no from Chicago imo.

2.) 24 Jan 2018 00:01:39
I’m all for it from a leafs perspective lol but I doubt that flies with the hawks. Sparks I believe is from Chicago too which is a nice bonus, and he has been great for the marlies. So has Pickard which makes It easier to move one of them. And with Andersen signed for 4 more years and playing great and still young, the best these guys can hope for here is a back up role. However, Murphy’s contract is exactly why the hawks got him. They need cost controlled players and he’s one of them.

3.) 24 Jan 2018 16:55:44
WHat do you think would get Murphy?



09 Jan 2018 17:55:57
Bozak & Gardiner

Stone & Bennett

Toronto) :
Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri -
Kasperi Kappanen
James van Riemsdyk - Sam Bennett - Mitch Marner
Carl Grundstrom - Frederik Gauthier - nikita soshnikov

Morgan Rielly - Mark Stone
Ron Hainsy - Nikita Zaitsev
Travis Dermott - Conner Carrick

I don't know how realistic this is but let me know what you think?


1.) 09 Jan 2018 18:29:43
Not horrible but Calgary says no. I believe tif the give up on Bennett it will be for a more higher profile player. And Stone is way too close to Gardiner in value.

2.) 09 Jan 2018 18:51:32
I don’t believe Stone is anywhere near gardiners value imo.

3.) 09 Jan 2018 20:36:50
Stone is so overrated he’s a bottom pairing dman. Honestly wouldn’t want him for free.

4.) 10 Jan 2018 02:45:52
All I said is that they are close in value. Stone is a 4-5 type D, and Gardiner who is also overrated imo, is a 3-4 type D. Too close to lose a blue chip prospect like Bennett.



27 Dec 2017 16:44:12
Riley Sheahan for Tyler Bozak


1.) 27 Dec 2017 19:25:46
Let's guess which team you're cheering for.

2.) 27 Dec 2017 19:27:31
No from Leafers.

3.) 27 Dec 2017 21:23:17

Leafs fan, but don't understand the comment. Bozak is arguably the best third line center in the league and the pens are looking to win now. He would add to their 5v5 scoring which has been tertrible and help the Pens get out of the funk the have been in.
As for the leafs, Sheahan is a good thirdline center who can skate and is great in the faceoff circle. He would cost less than Bozak and they could build a third line around him for the future. as he has a lot of potential. I would be willing to give something else up with bozak as well. maybe a later draft pick.

4.) 27 Dec 2017 22:24:51
Look at the standings #howlingstone Leafs are the better Team not Pittsburgh.

5.) 27 Dec 2017 23:52:35
The leafs are ahead in the standings. However, they are much younger and looking to be a contender long term. The Pens are reaching the end of their window with thier aging core and need help now. I fail to see how this isn't a win for both teams.

I also see Sheahan becoming a better player than Bozak is now. If Leafs take a chance on him and sign him long term at a reduced price they could have an impact player for years to come with a reasonable cap hit. If anything I see the Leafs as winners in this trade.

6.) 28 Dec 2017 15:28:22
Leafs won’t trade bozak straight up for a downgrade at the same position. Makes no sense. Only way they consider this is if they have another deal for an upgrade on defense and desperately need the cap space between bozak and Sheehan’s money to make that happen. Leafs are trying to win now too, and having bozak as a 3rd line centre makes them very deep for a playoff run, and also gives them a capable guy to move up the lineup if Matthews or kadri get hurt. Sheehan doesn’t have that same ability in my opinion.



27 Dec 2017 15:09:28
Connor Brown
2- 2nd rounders

Chris Tanev


1.) 27 Dec 2017 16:52:02
Why is this unbelievable? Just looking to understand. Tanev is sweet and one of the best stay at home defencemen in the league so generally I would think he would be worth more but Connor Brown is super overrated and thus his value is bloated. Toronto is looking for a top pairing defenceive defenceman in his prime, and Vancouver is looking to get younger and rebuild; therefore, I see this as a win for both teams. I would love some feed back.

2.) 27 Dec 2017 17:15:21
I think the canucks would rather keep tanev, but that's just my opinion. Defence are more valuable than wingers, let alone a top 4 RH defender for bottom 6 winger.

3.) 27 Dec 2017 19:28:14
I'd ask for better quality.

4.) 28 Dec 2017 03:24:42
That might get you Gudbranson.

5.) 28 Dec 2017 16:28:03
Brown is a bottom 6 winger due to circumstance, not skill. I get why Canucks would say no. But the kid has 30 goals and almost 60 pts in his first 120 NHL games playing 3rd and 4th line. He’s only a bottom six because leafs have an insanely deep forward group. I respect Canucks fans saying no, but it’s not like you’re getting Dominic Moore and 2 seconds. Brown would be a top 9 on 90% of the rosters in the league and could be a top 6 on a few.




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18 Jun 2018 23:17:53
Tor: Jake Gardiner + prospect +4th

OIL: Oscar Klefbom

Constructive critcisim only please.


1.) 19 Jun 2018 14:05:59
The Oilers may do this if 4th was a 1st and lose the prospect. Both players need a change and Klefbom has more up side.



16 Feb 2018 02:25:35
Sosh was just traded by leafs to blues for a 4th.

Thoughts? Who won?
Im saying.


1.) 16 Feb 2018 04:51:20
The blues won because it’s a 4th round pick, with that pick you’re happy if u get a player that can make the nhl and getting Sosh gets them a player that should pla right now and be a decent top 9 guy.

2.) 16 Feb 2018 06:39:16
Good deal for St. Louis. I hope he does well.

3.) 16 Feb 2018 11:23:51
Good deal by St. louis, and it was kinda a forced move for Toronto. To get something for Sosh, instead of having to waive him is good imo. Still, i think st. louis wins the deal.

4.) 17 Feb 2018 04:07:55
I like Sosh and he will probably be decent for blues, but like it’s been widely reported, leafs had a day to trade him, waive him, or he has an out in his contract to go back to the KHL. So getting a 4th round pick is pretty good for a team with 3 guns to their head. I’m pretty confident in leafs scouting and drafting recently that they MAY be able to get someone of use with that pick, or an additional 4th makes it easier to spend a late 2nd or 3rd as part of a package at the deadline of an upgrade on D comes available.



05 Jan 2018 14:48:12
What do you think it would take for the leafs to get Duclair?

He has great corsi% and would be an upgrade on both offence and defence in the leafs line-up.

What would you give up if anything?


1.) 05 Jan 2018 15:27:31
Leafs don't need any more young skilled guys on forward. i'm not trying to acquire forwards anymore, if i'm toronto at least.

2.) 05 Jan 2018 15:39:44
Leafs don't need another winger. Have plenty like and better than Duclair already.

3.) 05 Jan 2018 16:20:26
Connor Brown for Duclair and a 2nd.

4.) 05 Jan 2018 17:20:58
Wow Nylander that's a biased trade. Does Brown even get a second alone? .44 points a game for career, even with a high shooting percentage, not defensively inclined. Not worth Duclair straight up.

5.) 05 Jan 2018 18:48:39

By not defensively inclined do you mean that he isn't a good defensive player? If so, that's wrong, cause Brown actually is a good defensive player. Brown for Duclair works straight up, or Brown for the 2nd. I'd rather hold onto Brown though, he and Hyman are out two younger defensive forwards.

6.) 05 Jan 2018 23:45:48
You Leaf fans are crazy.
Value your 3rd liners at a crazy value.

Brown is fine, not great. Duclair has much more potential that Brown.

7.) 06 Jan 2018 01:52:48
Tyson, I remember you being one of the biggest leaf haters on here. Not surprised such stuff is coming fro. You. Brown had 40 points last year and already has 10 goals this year. Gimme a break that duclair has more value than him. Brown has more points than duclair two years in a row.

8.) 06 Jan 2018 02:22:59
In my opinion they are very similar players. One is a lefty and one is a righty. If Brown is not worth a 2nd then neither is Duclair.
The fact that Arizona has been trying to trade him for over a year and haven't, tells me Arizona is asking too much.

9.) 06 Jan 2018 14:45:56
Brown for Duclair is fair normally but I added the 2nd because of the pressure of him asking for an trade but I think Brown is abit better.

10.) 06 Jan 2018 22:54:42
Who's better? In order
Kapanen, Brown, Duclair, Lievo, Leipsic, Soshnikov, Hyman.

11.) 06 Jan 2018 23:29:57
Not being biased, but @yup, I'd have

Right now:
Brown, Duclair, Hyman, Kapanen, Leivo, Leipsic, Sosh.

Potential wise:
Kapanen, Duclair, Brown, Hyman, Leipsic, Leivo, Sosh.

Duclair and Brown are basically a wash, considering they are close now and close for the future.

12.) 07 Jan 2018 00:06:18
Cool. Curious how some of you other Leafs fans rank those players too.
Seems like a similar, close group, all could have some potential I think.

13.) 07 Jan 2018 03:31:28

Honestky, Sosh is kinda the anomily there. Leipsic and Leivo are equals and can be deoth guys, the others can all be top 9 guys in the right situations. Sosh, honestly, don't think he's ever a full timer nhler.

14.) 07 Jan 2018 23:17:04
Agree with top shelf.




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26 Feb 2018 01:03:13
Bjugstad is better and younger than pacioretty.




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21 Feb 2018 12:47:02
No from the leafs. I like glendening but that's too much for him.




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20 Feb 2018 02:56:13
these are terrible. way too much from toronto.




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19 Feb 2018 02:56:45
Franzan is ocerpaid and has term. That would be a bloody nightmare of a trade. Jensen is a winger that starts 70of his shifts in th offensive zone. I like Glendening. he is a strong penalty killer and plays 3min a nigth on the pk.

Oscar lindberg can stay in vegas.




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11 Feb 2018 17:27:16
I don't know if this is good or not. The way Sparks has been playing. He is looking like he could be an NHLer. Carolina needs a goaltender for the team to move into that next level, and they have a strong defence with or without faulk. I could see those two being the start of a deal at the very least.

Martin could also be good for them. He is a good leader and that is something the Huricanes could use. They also have about 20million in cap space next season, so taking on that salary is no big deal for them.

Instead of throwing carrick in the mix, who I think should stay and play on the 3rd pairing with dermott see about having Carolina take a few bodies off our hands and give them a couple of nice draft picks like those two 2nd rounders for thier trouble.





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