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29 Sep 2014 13:01:08
Habs: Kane
Jets: Eller, Bournival, Tinordi, 1st 2016
1.) The Jets would want a better package probably more like
Gallagher ,Beaulieu and a 1st 2015.
2.) Habs so NO, too much for Kane
28 Sep 2014 15:12:32
Habs: Marleau, 2rd
Sharks: torkarski, Tinordi, Bournival
1.) All I need to say is Classic Montreal fan. Doug Wilson will not give up Marleau for small pieces that he won't use. The sharks have 2 goalies competing for the starting job already so tokarski would be in the minors. The trade value is not there, the skill is not equal, and why would San Jose add a 2nd when they're already giving up Marleau for scraps?
2.) Yes Marleau is getting older but he would easily be the best player on the habs if he was traded. You won't get him and a 2nd for those table scraps, not even close. Nothing out of the ordinary, just another delusional habs fans. Sure are a lot of them.
3.) Maybe they could work it out differently?
Emelin, McCarron, 1st, 3rd for Marleau
4.) McMarron is an absolute bust, no one wants him. Change that to gallagher
13 Sep 2014 13:58:29
Habs get Kane and Byfuglien
Jjets get Tokarski, McCarron, Bournival, Eller and Beaulieu
1.) So a backup goalie, 4th line OHLer, 3rd line center, 4th line winger and 3rd pairing dman
for
Kane and Buff
Quantity doesn't equal quality
2.) 13 Sep 2014 15:55:59
Keep adding, Mtl.
3.) You don't trade 5 players for 2.
4.) @habsfan22
i know! that package wouldn't get you kanes skates! Start with beaulieu and only ask for one
5.) 5 young talented players for two problems. no thanks.
6.) @habsfan22 , Montreal fans do
7.) Leaffan, you're such a habs hater! Do u know what potential is? Is mcdavid worth the same as biz nasty because he plays in the ohl? Comment on leafs rumors but don't be biased. Those evaluations are blasphemous! Disagree all u like!
8.) Haha five talented players is hilarious the youngest one in this trade (McCarron) is playing on a 4th line in the juniors, don't want to get into every player but this trade sucks. I hope you don't represent all habs fans.
9.) Soobydoo
17 people agree with leaffan and only 2 disagree. Even with potential factored in Montreal adds here. And he's right. Quantity does not equal quality and that's not being biased or blasphemous. It's the truth. Disagree all you like. Being a Hab fan doesn't mean your players are worth gold as most of you seem to believe.
10.) Hockeygodsgift, never said they where worth gold I'm just saying that he undervalued every player he listed! He is a habs hater and it's not like you have a star studded reputation on this site either. I am known throughout this site to be one of the more unbiased fans and look at things very closely. Leaffan has been known to continuasly value montreals players poorly.
11.) He undervalued no one in this case. Its going to be quite a while before any of those players surpass those roles if they ever do. And I never said I was perfect, but you thinking you show less bias doesn't make you any more reputable either, not to knock you off that pedestal you seem to be perched on.
12.) Soobydoo, if you think this is a fair trade then you know nothing about hockey , how about trading Galchenyuk and Gallagher for Jensen , Corrado , Hansen , Markstrom and Lain.
13.) Beaulieu can be 2nd pairing bt that's about the only value
14.) Sorry I fail to recall where I said this trade was even close to fair. In terms of immediate impact leaffan is 100% correct! But for some of the players listed it is only a matter of time before they blossom. Steamer, with that last comment you should consider asking yourself the question "do I infact know anything about hockey?"
15.) The difference is McDavid HAS potentialbut no one on your list will be more than a 3rd line player or 2nd pairing dman AT BEST
16.) Ouch, soobydoo. Lol.
02 Aug 2014 13:20:12
To jets: subban and tokarski
To habs: kane, begosian and byfuglien
1.) Way too much from the Jets. They won't have a team without those 3.
2.) That's too much for Subban
3.) Subban is Norris winner and more to come he will change the game for the jets
4.) Take out Bogosian and Tokarski and add Mtl's 2015 1st
22 May 2014 15:55:42
Habs- O'Riely and stastny
Avs- subban and bourque and gionta
1.) Stastny is UFA
Subban is more valuable to O'Reilly
2.) Gionta is a UFA, so is Stasney. Bourque is a cap dump. So it's like O'Reilly for Subban. Montreal says no.
3.) More like Macinnen ror for subban! Really people understand hockey! Your dumb personal views about Subban dosent take away the fact he is one of the best and holds high value! Duchane or Mac have to be part of the deal and I would do Mack and ror for Subban. Col are perfect patterns for a trade, and so you no nothing hockey people know Mack, Barrie, pa and 1st for Subban, breier and pick or prospect was talked about in season for a franchise altering trade
4.) Mack isn't going anywhere, he's going to be like Sakic or Yzerman, Subban won't land Mack alone. You need to understand hockey and what the value of players are even if they play for a team you don't like.
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21 Sep 2014 03:21:25
Montreal doesn't need to make any trades, they have what is needed to have a great year, maybe just give Justin Penner a tryout. Go HABS!
1.) You mean Dustin Penner? nice try though
2.) If they do get him to a tryout, it could be *Justin* time!
04 Aug 2014 20:05:10
Habs: lecavier
Flyers: DD and 2nd pick 2016
1.) I wouldn't give up DD or a 2nd for Lecavier straight up
2.) Philly couldn't give lecavlier away montreal wouldn't be dumb enough to give either desharnais or a 2nd.
02 Feb 2014 23:47:38
Here we go. Again year after leaf fans think they have great or. Better players than other teams and they're going to the finals. Give up leafs nation u guys will never win enough already
1.) Oh sorry I didn't realize the habs where so much better than the leafs. Oh wait! Just saw the standings never mind
2.) Wake up habz13. Leaf fans aren't saying their players are better than everyone else's. Stop your nonsense.
3.) Neither are the Habs.
4.) 9 out of 10 Leafs fans would agree that Toronto is not going to win this year.
5.) 1-Leafs are going nowhere because they need a 1st line C and another #1 D, the'll never win until they re-build which no one want to do
2-Hans will also get nowhere until they get someone over 5"6
6.) Can you tell me why non Leaf fans worry so much about the Leafs? Shouldn't you be following your team? Unless you won the Cup last year I would imagine you have areas on your team that need to be fixed. Or would you rather cheer for the Leafs? It's ok if you want to.
7.) ^^ Everyone goes on and on about the Leafs need for a 1st line centre. Let me say one more time - it is NOT the offence that keeps Toronto from being a contender, it's the DEFENCE.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that. I will repeat myself. The Leafs are 2nd in the East behind only Pittsburgh in the Goals For category. They score lots of goals. The problem with the Leafs is they can't stop allowing goals. Only the Isles and the Oilers have allowed more.
So I ask you once again, "How can any team go far in the playoffs if they are 28th in the league in goals against?"
Instead of crying for a 1st line centre, how about suggesting what moves can be made to bring the goals against down.
Leafs 14
8.) ^^ I think I can answer the question about non-Leaf fans.
Having grown up in Toronto, and as a die-hard Leaf fan, I have absolutely nothing against any of the 6 other Cdn cities and their hockey teams. In fact, I would rather have any of the 6 Cdn teams (that includes Mtl) win the Cup over any of the 23 American teams.
That is actually the opposite view of many Cdns who do not live anywhere near Toronto. I am quite confident that for some bizarre reason, many Cdns in various other cities around the country would rather have any of the 23 American cities win the cup before Toronto.
To answer your question then - as an NFL life-long Redskins fan, a nightmare scenario for me is to watch Dallas be successful. I would rather have any other team win before Dallas. It's the same thing with many in Mtl, Calgary, Edmonton, Vanc etc. fans. It is just a nightmare scenario for them to watch Toronto be successful. They are simply so anti-Toronto that nothing will ever change that.
9.) Maybe the same reason leaf fans try and prove kessel is one of the best players in the world day after day after day. lol
hab.
10.) ^ rebuilding is a Misunderstood process. The teams that followed that rebuild model, got exceptionally lucky at various points which ultimately lead to winning a cup.
11.) They're like school yard bullies. They only feel good about themselves when they put other people down. Low self esteem, mommy didn't love them enough, or their team is ****. Which ever it is, bullies end up getting their *** handed to them. Leaf nation rules!
12.) Hab I used to respect your opinions but lately you're talking nonsense and becoming a hater too! I know it's easy to get on that wagon. Kessel is near the top of the league in scoring year after year with an average center man in Bozak. When your team was 10 points up on the leafs you were respectful. Now your team is struggling and your complaining about Kadri, Prust, Cherry & refs. Kessel is a pure sniper becoming a 2 way player, just as Subban is a great defenseman.
Leafs17
13.) @hab
Someone posted a very salient point on the topic of Kessel.
People who don't like the leafs post comments like - Kessel sucks, or Kessel isn't elite, or Kessel is a 3rd liner on most teams etc. Leaf fans then take exception bc he is typically one of the top performers.
The point being - leaf fans aren't trying to prove Kessel is The best player in the world, they are responding the people who talk sh*t about him.
14.) ^ No hab, leaf fans don't think Kessel is the best player in the world. 99% of leaf fans would trade him in a heart beat for a handful of other players.
15.) No, I would not trade kessel unless that bunch of players were very good, and I mean good that would help now.
A leaf fan
16.) ^ what I meant is that there is a handful of other players leaf fans would be happy to have over Kessel (Stamkos, Tavares, Toews etc. ).
What I am really highlighting is that if Leaf fans would prefer to have any of those players mentioned about, they clearly don't think Kessel is the best in the world (bc why would you trade the best in the world?).
17.) Im not saying every leaf fan but leaf17 you have to see what i'm talking about on here I mean comments like kessel is better then ovechkin is just crazy then the argument being if kessel had backstrom as a center imagine how many goals he would score. well pacioretty on montreal has 7 less goals in 12 less games and he played the 1st 20 games of the year with a center who didn't have a point imagine if he had bozak on his line he would have 40 for sure now. but yet by some leaf standards pacioretty is garbage. I like kessel but i'd take patches at 4.5 mil over kessel at 8 mil anyday. its not hating on the leafs which you are seeing from me leafs17 I know because i'm disagreeing with you on some things about how great the leafs are you think I have lost my mind but you got to be able to take some critizism I mean you do realize it will take a absoulute miracle for any canadian team to make a cup run this year. with the way Toronto plays defence and the fact montreal can't score they will still both be lucky to make the playoffs so until kessel and subban actually lead there teams to some success they will not be considered the best at there positions. we should stop pretending like they are.
hab.
18.) ^ the most superficial way of evaluating players is by looking at point totals. Kessel (like it or not) is a top point scorer. So when someone says Kessel is garbage, they are calling a top 10 scorer garbage - which is more than a little illogical.
19.) Nobody in there right mind would call kessel garbage when you see a post with someone saying that you should just ignore it and after a while it will go away.
hab.
20.) Nobody is saying how great the leafs are. Most times we are defending our team from people saying every player is garbage. Kessel, JVR, Lupul, even Phaneuf are far from garbage. I'm not a rookie to this site and I've never seen any cup talk from leaf fans. Over valuing players, yes, but so does every other fan base. I doubt the habs or the leafs have much success this year but we don't need another hater from someone who seems respectable and a hockey fan, not just a hab fan.
Leafs17
21.) Ok just admit subban deserved the Norris last year and I will apologize. lol
hab.
22.) ^ It's a nonissue for me that Subban won the Norris. I will say this - given the company he was in, his nomination and win was not out of place.
23.) That's close enough i'm a good sport so i'm sorry but in my defence I wasn't hating on the leafs or don cherry it was just a couple different things that I didn't fully agree with what people were saying. if you have been on this board you should know that I have on numerous occasions backed up the leafs and some of there players I have always said kessel can be as dangerous on any given night as any player in the league, I have argued with leaf fans on here who wanted to trade kadri for peanuts when he was in a funk. I have applauded the play of both bernier and reimer and even went as far as saying bernier through the 1st quarter of the season was playing like the best Canadian goalie in the nhl. if you listen closely to what I write and are not so quick to cast judgement you will see its not hate, its either honest opinion or fact.
hab.
24.) I think Subban is awesome! He did deserve the Norris. I didn't like that he fought with teammates and his coaches. He reminds me of Dion Sanders. They think their **** don't stink, I bet it does. For that reason, there are many defenseman if take before him.
Leafs17
20 Sep 2014 13:55:19
Montreal doesn, t need to Trade for anyone they're fine with what they have, maybe just give a try out to Justin Penner, that's it GO HABS!
Yeah, not for leaf garbage
24 Aug 2014 23:18:39
Trade for lecavlier, solves problem for big center for at least 3 years won, t cost much except for salary
24 Aug 2014 23:13:10
to much for Kane
10 Aug 2014 20:03:05
Habs don, t need sharp at that cost
Habs- sharp
Hawks-dd and 3rd 2016