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10 Jan 2018 00:40:42
To Tampa
Green

To Detroit
Howden
2018 1st


1.) 10 Jan 2018 01:22:30
tampa doesn't have anywhere near enough cap room.


2.) 10 Jan 2018 04:18:56
Sure they do, more than enough deadline space for him. Then the Wings will flip that bottom 4 pick to Montreal for 2 seconds in 2018. That's my crystal ball guess for the draft.


3.) 10 Jan 2018 04:36:42
Ive heard Tampa is projected to be able to add up to 9 mill in contracts at the deadline.


4.) 10 Jan 2018 04:54:18
seems like a waste to use all their deadline space on green; could probably get a little more bang for their buck.


5.) 10 Jan 2018 10:25:02
TB has more than enough space to add him at the deadline. With that being said, there is literally no way TB is that stupid. Howden is projected to be a good 2/ 3 two-way C and a 1st? TB already has 8 NHL defensemen and regularly scratches 1 or 2 of them.


6.) 10 Jan 2018 12:06:06
Ya one of their top prospects and a 1st seems a little heavy. As for adding Green he seems exactly like the type of player they need. Right handed puck moving D. Also assuming they don't move anyone else (theyd likely need to move Sustr in that deal) theyd have 3 mill left for a third line winger.


 

 

28 Dec 2017 19:20:26
To SJ
Ho-Sang

To Islanders
Dell


1.) 28 Dec 2017 20:05:56
Most back up goalies who teams think they can become #1s usually get picks. But this is interesting. If San Jose thinks highly of Ho-Sang they say yes but if they don't I think they would want a 1st and something.
Lehner, Talbot, Jones type a trades. I think those were mostly just picks for those backups to teams who wanted to give them starter time.


2.) 28 Dec 2017 20:47:33
Lol no
Not even close.


 

 

15 Dec 2017 04:23:25
To Tampa
Karlsson

To Ottawa
Johnson
Point
Sergachev
2018 1st


1.) 15 Dec 2017 05:35:22
No thanks from tampa.


2.) 15 Dec 2017 06:59:21
Huge no from Tampa.


3.) 15 Dec 2017 17:13:32
Lol you want Kuch too while you're at it?


4.) 15 Dec 2017 21:16:00
I think Sergachev is least likely with to move.


5.) 17 Dec 2017 22:36:18
Point and Hedman and Sergachev and Johnson 2018 1st

for

Karlsson and Hoffman and Ceci.


 

 

13 Dec 2017 21:18:31
To Edmonton
Karlsson

To Ottawa
Hopkins
Nurse
Klefbom
2018 1st
2019 2nd


1.) 13 Dec 2017 21:34:24
If that’s what it takes to get Karlsson, I don’t think it’s worth it. Especially a team like Edmonton who has spent years collecting all the young talent they have. Trading those pieces away is a step backwards IMO.


2.) 13 Dec 2017 21:45:50
Quality doesn't mean quantity. Ottawa wants quality in return not just scraps. Only good player in return is Klefbom. Hopkins ain't much quality and so is nurse.


3.) 13 Dec 2017 22:16:22
Your not to smart if you think rnh is not quality player if he was in Ottawa right now he would be there number one center lmao but I think his asking price is going to be to much probably around 13 a year oilers can't afford that.


4.) 13 Dec 2017 23:55:23
First time I have ever agreed with high290 lol dead on.


5.) 14 Dec 2017 00:37:38
That's to much. and remember (Sorry Yup lol), that 2018 pick could, with the Oilers damn luck in the lottery be Dahlin lol. but even take that pick out. that's still alot. and then here is the question of how he plays with McDavid? Does his game somewhat change due to the fact, he's not the top offensive threat on the team. I know it worked for Coffee and Gretzky., but that was a different era. on another post, there was discussion of him looking a little not himself. that would concern me a bit about a big investment and losing lots of talent at the same time. don't get me wrong. he's a remarkable talent, kind of on the generational conversation, of course if be happy if he was on my team, but paying these guys for what they have done until they are well passed there primes is a scary tbought.


6.) 14 Dec 2017 00:39:09
RNH has a few more years left as far as I know and no way he asks for 13. Also not one piece coming from Edmonton is scrap, you can argue in a trade for Karlsson that a 2nd isn’t much value. Even if that is Karlssons value (I think it’s close but too much) no team would do it.


7.) 14 Dec 2017 00:53:42
Im talking about quality like Karlsson. If you compare them lol, which you shouldnt, RNH is garbage. Ottawa wants to become better, not get more assets


8.) 14 Dec 2017 04:56:14
You're not going to win a Karlsson trade. You're especially not going to win to the point where you're instantly better. Sorry, not going to happen.
Yesterday I thought he was staying in Ottawa %100. Today I'm in the fence and don't know what to think. This story is fueled by the media tho, and I don't think either side, Karlsson or Owner Melnyk likes that.
With Turris saying what he did, then Dorion saying what he did, then Turris wife reply "Lol" on Twitter to Dorions comments. It's kinda a big mess at the Kent and maybe it's starting to turn Karlsson off a little, I don't know. I know I would Be annoyed.
Kinda same idea as Kessel with Toronto media.
Eberlazy and Hall whining about the media.
Media blows things up sometimes. Kinda stupid.


9.) 14 Dec 2017 05:13:13
And it could be the big story and huge distraction this weekend for the outdoor game weekend supposed to be celebrating 100 NHL years. Kinda crappy.


10.) 14 Dec 2017 07:03:43
Ugh, no from Edmonton. Lol. And Nuge is garbage lmao ok.


11.) 14 Dec 2017 12:27:05
Crazyattack if you think you're getting a Karlsson + back in a trade for Karlsson you're sorely mistaken. Teams are going to trade for him to get better now Ott needs to get used to that. They're going to get future assets with maybe somr underwhelming current assests for cap reasons. Nurse has been great this year RNH is a good piece that 1st could be huge and Klefbom is seriously underrated a legit top pairing guy. Nurse and Baral are good starting points from EDM and NYI respectively.


12.) 14 Dec 2017 16:55:05
I don’t think Karlsson asking for 13 million is that out of the question. Cap will be up 5 mill or so more from when mcdavid got 12.5. I know mcdavid is viewed as the best (or second best) player in the league, but Karlsson (minus the last 15ish games) is viewed as the best Dman in the league. #1 centres play 17-20 min a game. The best ones play 20-22, maybe 23 min. A #1 Dman plays 23-26 min and the best ones are pushing 30min. Don’t think agents and unions aren’t going to start playing the ‘work load’ card in negotiations as sports science and player safety issues keep coming up. These guys wear and tear on their bodies is far more than a lot of the high end forwards between the added minutes they play and getting hit by fore checkers going back for pucks. A good case to be made that they risk shorter careers and will want compensated now for it. Technically he’s worth more than mcdavid in that regard and I think people may be surprised at doughty and Karlsson cap hit after next year.


13.) 14 Dec 2017 20:50:23
Read that wrong. Haha but yeah Karlsson I’m sure will be around the 11-13 make.


14.) 14 Dec 2017 23:01:36
That approx 7 minutes difference in ice time per game between a top centre and a top D is about 575 min over an 82 games season. That’s like karlsson/ suter/ doughty etc playing almost 25 extra games either of ice time over a mcdavid/ Crosby/ kopitar in a season. That’s insane lol if I were them, I’d be cashing in when given the chance too.


 

 

13 Dec 2017 21:00:07
To St-Louis
Nyquist

To Detroit
2018 2nd
Schmaltz
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To Edmonton
Hoffman

To Ottawa
Bear
2019 3rd


1.) 13 Dec 2017 21:09:43
Believe it or not the Oilers are most likely not interested in trading their best top D prospect, (a right handed offensive one they need as well) for a $6M winger.


2.) 13 Dec 2017 21:10:50
Who the hell is bear? Ottawa isn’t giving away one of their best forwards for a third and a random player.


3.) 13 Dec 2017 21:15:24
not sure if edmonton needs a lwr but he is good. Bear is also a nice asset. But i would think an A lvl prospect elc is worth more than a 25-30 goal scorer with 2 years. You would have to take maroon or another cap equivalent player back. Oilers need to watch their cap.

As for the st. louis deal that won't work blues can not take on 5 mil already at the cap. I just don't see a possible solution for the blues. Det would have to retain or take gunnerson and another 1mil person then at that point you wouldn't get schmaltz. it just doesn't make sense. Need to trade Jaybo to free up money.


4.) 13 Dec 2017 21:34:50
Yup you wouldn’t trade Bear and a 3rd for Hoffman? I’m kind of excited to see what Bear turns into, could have a Montour type start to his career if we’re lucky. But Oil would actually get a left wing with skill. I’m sure Ottawa wouldn’t do it though.


5.) 13 Dec 2017 23:59:33
You wouldn’t trade a kid you took in the 5th round that has never proved he could play in the nhl and a 3rd for Hoffman?! Starting to sound like those habs fans you constantly chirped for being delusional. Oilers fans lately seem to think they’re going to find the high skilled scoring winger with mid round picks and wash ups.


6.) 14 Dec 2017 02:16:51
First one, i think STL says no. Isnmt Schmaltz good? I thought he was a pretty highly touted prospect before. hm. And a second isn't just a minor addon. And Gus has fallen off, he's more just a 40 point guy.

Sexond one, Ottawa says no. Idk how Edmonton says no @yup. Only for cap reasons, I woukd think. But still, Bear and a 3rd is basically like Dermott and 2nd if I'm thinking Torontos perspective. And even with Torontos forward depth, that's a hell yes from Toronto. So yeah, besides cap, Edmonton takes that.


7.) 14 Dec 2017 05:09:19
I'm saying I don't think Edm who is very high on Bear doesn't want to let that go for a winger.
Bear is a right handed very offensive point per game 70 points in 67 games last year and 65 points in 67 games the year before. Played unreal in playoffs for Seattlw thunderbirds as well named whl D man of the year.
With no money going out bringing in $5.1M (mixed him up, my bad thought was $6M) for a winger with two more years on contract. Might not be the best idea cap wise.
I would include bear in a trade for Karlsson tho, easily.
I'm saying I believe they are very high on Bear and might not want to give up on for a winger That's not really far fetched. I'm not screaming "omg bear is the next Karlsson ya right they would trade for Hoffman, he's amazing"
relax now.
Age. Contract. Position. ELC Vs UFA in two years. Lots to it. And that's just my opinion.
I wouldn't be mad if they made that trade tho also.
I do very very liked Hoffman tho. I would actually rather trade Moto for him and I love him as well. Position wise being the reason. Winger for winger. Makes more sense on the depth pool. If they brought in Hoffman it's bye bye Maroon then as well.


8.) 14 Dec 2017 06:40:52
I agree if the Oilers were able to get Hoffman for Bear and a 3rd they should take it, but Bear has improved a ton since being drafted. If they did a re draft now (early I know) I'm pretty sure he'd be a 2nd rounder at worst. He was the WHL dman of the year last year and a right shot PP quarterback is something the Oilers are really lacking right now. Hopefully he can fill that role in a couple years.


9.) 14 Dec 2017 07:06:00
Pretty easy no from Edmonton. Like said, Bear is in the mold of exactly what Edmonton needs on the point and Hoffman is like 8 years older and making 6mil? Like on what planet does that make sense for Edmonton adding more cap when they don’t have the space.


10.) 14 Dec 2017 13:51:33
Bear can go in a Karlsson trade tho? lol I remember senskill saying only way oilers could get Karlsson was if draisatl was included and these same oilers fans tearing him apart. now you’re willing to give up the one and only ETHAN BEAR in a trade for struggling Karlsson. You guys sure have come a long way. So generous.


11.) 14 Dec 2017 14:41:06
Lol. Wow. Relax man. I'm not the only one who wouldn't trade Bear, 3rd for Hoffman here. He's not just "some random 5th rounder" lol. Actually look into what he's done the last three years then decide, it just where he was drafted. And needs of the team.
I said I would include him in a deal for Karlsson, yes, because then we would have the right handed offensive D we want and not groom Bear into that position hopefully anymore. I did say hopefully, not saying it's a for sure thing, again, relax.
A package around maybe Drai, Bear, 1st for Karlsson is probably close. They might ask for Nurse or Klefbon instead of Bear tho. I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what to think if Drai, Bear and 1st for Karlsson would be on the table. I would be torn. Especially if Karlsson wants $12M+ for 8 years at age 29 when that 8 year deal would kick in. I think I would lean to wanting to stay away from that contract maybe, especially for those 3 young solid assets.


12.) 14 Dec 2017 15:46:15
I’m very relaxed actually. It’s just funny that you have been the first guy to go after people and call them delusional, whether it’s habs or leafs fans and I stayed out of it because in most cases, you were right, they were delusional. But you are on the other side now and valuing oilers assets like gold against others but don’t see it. It’s not anger, it’s just me having a sense of humour at your hypocrisy. If a leafs fan said Travis dermott and a 3rd or a habs fan offered juulsen and a 3rd for a top line winger off the oilers, they would be abused by the same 2 or 3 guys. It’s enertaining.


13.) 14 Dec 2017 16:33:22
Yup. so you would be good with Perron and 3rd for Klefbom? cause that's essentially what you're asking for. A great Junior player and a third for a first liner .


14.) 14 Dec 2017 17:11:30
No, they wouldn’t take that offer Hoff. They would say klefbom is a stud and you should add in White. I’ve seen offers from habs fans on here for RNH that are better than this one for Hoffman and yup has called them delusional and “hell no from oilers”. I know RNH is a centre and therefore gets a little premium on Hoffman, however Hoffman is far better offensively which evens it out, plus makes a million dollars less. It’s just overvaluing their own players, and every fan base is guilty of doing it at times. But if you’re going to always be ‘that guy’ who calls everyone else on it, have to expect to hear about it when you do the exact same thing.


15.) 14 Dec 2017 17:41:42
Now you guys are just being pricks here. Oilers would not take that trade and idk why that’s so hard for you to understand.


16.) 14 Dec 2017 18:21:23
Now you're just hearing what you wanna hear.


17.) 14 Dec 2017 18:23:29
It’s so hard to understand because it’s been reported that they’re looking for a scoring winger, sens misfortune let's one possibly become available, someone makes a suggestion at a reasonable price and the same guys dismiss it who get their backs up the other way. Yup has been calling habs fans dumb and delusional for 3 or 4 weeks straight for more fair offers than this. I’ve always stayed very neutral and unbiased. Stop being pricks to everyone that doesn’t agree with you and people won’t be pricks back. We were taught that, using different words in kindergarten lol.


18.) 14 Dec 2017 18:25:37
In no way shape or form am I delusional for simply suggesting that I believe the oilers don't want to trade their A RH offensively minded D prospect for a winger. I'm not screaming omg he's amazing and will be a Norris trophy winner, The other guy is garbage.
I'm suggesting that I believe the oilers value that need of a RH offensive D more than a winger at this time.
If you had Moto for Hoffman instead, I would see r as more believable.
How is that delusional? I also said Intelsat like Hoffman and if they made that trade I wouldn't be mad. Because if we were set on RH offensive D with a Doughty or something then I would trade bear for Hoffman.


19.) 14 Dec 2017 18:31:44
Panties in a knot today. Wow.
Gotta think of the cap and age too. Two more years of Hoffman for a guy who is a big part of your future you're hoping (the oilers I believe are high on him) call me insane to think that. Hoping the cap goes to around $80M so they can possibly keep Nuge I don't think then they would be able to add $5M Hoffman for just an pick and prospect and no money going out. They would then trade maroon at deadline for sure then.
Maybe this kind of deal for this team close to cap with Mcdavids contract coming in next year and the uncertainty of the cap. Maybe this is a better deal to discus in the off season when you know the cap, know which RFA and others you are signing to see if you can bring in a $5M winger for your best D prospect
Ya. I'm delusional for thinking that out hey.


20.) 14 Dec 2017 19:21:13
Hoffman for Yamamoto would be better? That’s a good offer too. Because I posted that yesterday, that exact thing and mcjesus says that’s not good enough either. Kinda making my point here for me. But anyway, the oilers don’t need proven goal scoring wingers to play with 2 great centres to help drag them out of the basement as long as they have point per game junior players. you’re right.


21.) 14 Dec 2017 20:25:44
Nah yup. The problem w u is, you can't admit when your wrong. You make fun of leaf/ hab fans and call em delusional, but any critique on the Oilers is heavily defended. Hell, you still defend the Hall and Eberle trades. Like come on. Ya got to be able to take what you dish out.

And i GUARRANTEE you, if i said:

Lets trade Travis Dermott and a 2nd for Mike Hoffman, I'd have 30 dislikes and be named the new 'Pinball'. Just admit that a jumior player ain't enough for Hoff.


22.) 15 Dec 2017 00:37:55
Admit when I'm wrong? Who are you to say my opinion is wrong? WTF. That's an opinion in itself hypocrite.
You guys just choose to only see the delusion criticism and read what you wanna read. Wow.


23.) 15 Dec 2017 02:12:52
I never said you were wrong. All I said is in the same situation when you’re on the other side, you tell everyone they’re wrong. So if your opinion isn’t wrong today, why is everyone else’s for the last month? Lol if you can honestly say you have never called someone delusional for offering a mid prospect and a mid pick for a top line player, then I am 100% wrong. But we all know you have because we have read it over and over again.


 

 

 

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22 Feb 2017 01:24:40
To Toronto
Parenteau

To NJ
Sparks
2018 3rd


1.) 22 Feb 2017 09:26:02
Leafs don't need him, but a fair trade

also can't see leafs getting any rentals for picks.


2.) 22 Feb 2017 20:32:36
The Devils already have the Leafs 3rd in 2018 as compensation for the Lou signing, but personally, I feel like the Devils would do this trade, just substitute in a different pick.


3.) 23 Feb 2017 05:10:48
Kinkaid > Sparks.


 

 

22 Feb 2017 01:32:07
To Islanders
vanRiemsdyk

To Leafs
Hamonic


 

 

22 Feb 2017 01:25:54
To Pittsburg
Eaves
2018 5th

To Dallas
2017 2nd


 

 

05 Feb 2017 22:18:18
To Washington
Doan
To Arizona
2017 2nd
_______________
To Ducks
Vrabata

To Arizona
Noesen
2017 2nd
________________
To Arizona
Jurco

To Detroit
Duclair
_____________
To Edmonton
Smith

To Detroit
Musil
______________
To Islanders
Eberle

To Edmonton
Boychuck
_____________
To Washington
Laich

To Toronto
2017 4th
______________
To Nashville
Hopkins
Bear

To Edmonton
Ekholm
______________


1.) 06 Feb 2017 07:33:35
I think most of those are fair value.
1. That sounds about right for Doan.
2. I'm not sure who Noesen is but Vrbata can fetch a 2nd himself, maybe even a late 1st.
3. Both guys need a fresh start, I think Duclair is a little better. I'd love to see him in TO.
4. Then they both get sent to the AHL
5. I like it. A big shot R Dman who is from Edmonton. They have similar contracts I believe because I've thought of the same deal.
6. I don't know if Laich can even get a 4th or if there's a roster spot for him. Laich deserves a shot at the cup with the team he had a pretty solid career with.
7. Too much for Ekholm IMO.


2.) 06 Feb 2017 08:32:11
Boychuck has like 6 more years at 6 million compared to Eberle's 2. Boychuck is also way older.


3.) 06 Feb 2017 13:03:28
Noesen is on the devils now if I remember correctly.


4.) 06 Feb 2017 15:26:43
You're right Ebs. Something would have to be added by NY to compensate for that.


5.) 06 Feb 2017 15:37:45
That won't get u Ekholm my friend. Great defensemen on an even better contract.


 

 

28 Feb 2016 18:48:28
Stall to Rangers for puck bag and two seconds.


1.) 29 Feb 2016 00:25:28
The prospect they got actually might be an interesting one. Great stats over in Finland. Could DET some chemistry with Aho for a Fin Line.


 

 

 

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10 Jan 2018 04:18:56
Sure they do, more than enough deadline space for him. Then the Wings will flip that bottom 4 pick to Montreal for 2 seconds in 2018. That's my crystal ball guess for the draft.


 

 

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15 Dec 2017 06:09:43
Brendan Smith got a 2nd and 3rd from a desperate team needing D at the deadline. Anyone that thinks Green won't fetch a 1st is smoking the same stuff as buddy offering Yaks in a oil trade.


 

 

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15 Dec 2017 04:14:38
Your about a year and two teams late requesting Oiler 'Yak' trades.


 

 

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15 Dec 2017 02:29:19
Green will fetch a 1st and possibly more. Not cause he's worth it though, lack of D available.


 

 

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16 Nov 2017 20:28:36
Trading Nuge for a UFA is a huge possibility. Next year they have some guy getting about a 11.5mill raise. Someone's got to go eventually.


 

 

 

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