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13 Feb 2020 06:04:45
L. A-Alec Martinez
Tor- cody ceci and 1 4th round draft pick every year until the leafs win the cup.

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1.) 13 Feb 2020 06:50:30
That's a whole bunch of 4ths. Upgrade to 3rd though since ceci is injured. And a dump.


2.) 13 Feb 2020 08:21:02
So if the leafs win it while Martinez is a leaf they win that trade, if they win within 5 years after Martinez's contract is up then i think its a fair trade. If they never win it then L. A. wins that trade lol.


3.) 13 Feb 2020 09:42:34
So they get 4th round picks for decades?


4.) 13 Feb 2020 21:07:06
Is the unlimited fourth because of Martinez value or for taking Ceci? Why would Leafs even bother dumping Ceci since his days of playing for them are over anyway?


 

 

14 Aug 2019 05:00:06
Toronto- marner, jake muzzin 2020 6th, 2021 4th

Philly- provorov, justin braun, tyler pitlick, 2021 1st.

bobbywhorr

1.) 14 Aug 2019 06:27:16
Why do the Flyers do this?
Provorov is their building block d-man and stud defenceman.
Flyers are also stacked on forward depth.
They don't need Marner whatsoever.

Also, value wise, Toronto loses this.
Marner>/ =Provorov
Muzzin >> Braun
4th = Pitlick
1st > 6th


Just bad all around man.


2.) 14 Aug 2019 14:01:12
Yet Marner is “overrated”.


3.) 14 Aug 2019 16:16:03
Marner is defiantly overated by leaf fans. Could you imagine the haul if he was a center and put up 70 80 pts.


4.) 14 Aug 2019 21:10:25
Love all the overated talk. redwing you are famously one of the worst. Marner is a top 5-10 winger in the game with room to grow.


5.) 14 Aug 2019 22:30:50
He is not when I get home i will post. I think he is like 14th.


6.) 15 Aug 2019 01:20:47
How many wingers got 94 points last year, plays penalty kill rather well and plays the full length of the ice. Far better than the player you have so much love for Tarasenko.


7.) 15 Aug 2019 01:29:16
NHL. com has him rated at #5. And I know it's more for fantasy purposes but dobber has him rated the 8th best skater in the league.


8.) 15 Aug 2019 03:33:13
That’s Tarasenko they have at 14 colt. Marner is 5. All this bickering over these young players worth is getting comical. I forgot how petty people get in the off season. Most of the top players in the game could move up or down that list in a few months. Tarasenko won the cup at least, that’s more than most of these players can say. I didn’t mean to pump your tires Colt, we know you can do that on your own.


9.) 15 Aug 2019 11:42:47
Hey at least tarasenko gets goals 35-40 when marner hits 35 let me know. Fyi marner has a lot of secondary assists. Also Toronto media is even saying he is overated.


10.) 15 Aug 2019 13:47:41
Holy crap tankie. I was praising Tarasenko and you’re still going to bash Marner? I understand that every leaf player is overrated and they don’t become stars until they leave the blue and white. I bet Bozak is the best 3c in the game now right? I’m sure we’ll be hearing how good Borgman is before long.


11.) 15 Aug 2019 14:08:48
Toronto media started calling him overrated once he demanded a big contract lmao.


12.) 15 Aug 2019 14:38:08
Bozak is a pretty sick 3C I’ll give the blues that. But jeez let me know when Taresanko ever cracks 75 points Nylander has similar production to Taresanko lol.


13.) 15 Aug 2019 16:09:57
That's your argument Colt. really. they are saying he's overrated based on the reported contract demand. If you would rather a one dimensional player over a player who is good at any point in any situation then so be it. There is no argument to Tarasenko being better. Give me a guy who gets more points, plays PK and is very responsible at every point in a game any day.


14.) 15 Aug 2019 16:15:29
I never said he was better. I like marner a lot. I prefer to have tarasenko. He has a deadly shot. Wouldn't be surprised if he hits 40+ this year. Also vb he has hit 75 points. Lol

73, 74, 75 point seasons and those where with lehtera as his center. He had a big injury 17-18 towards end and into 18-19 still got 65+ points 30+ goals. This. Year I think he will hit 40+ goals 80+ points with schenn and Schwartz.

Also if I'm correct doesn't tarasenko have most goals in playoffs over last 5-10 years. I will look that up not sure. Think I saw it posted by NBC stats.


15.) 15 Aug 2019 16:56:51
Vbbvvbv dude seriously nylander has similar tha ts the dumbest thing i have heard in a while nylander has never had more than 22 goals or 61 points let's do tarasenko last 5 years

18/ 19
33g 35a 68p 76gp
17/ 18
33g 33a 66p 80gp
16/ 17
39g 36a 75p 82gp
15/ 16
40g 34a 74p 80gp
14/ 15
37g 36a 73p 77gp


In 70 playoff games he has the following

33g 16a 49pts 70gp

When nylander hits that let me know.


16.) 15 Aug 2019 16:59:12
So a kid who gets 68 assists some secondary and 26 goals is not one sided.

Fyi tarasenko plays the 200 ft game scores just slightly more than he assists. I would trade him and his 7.5 for marner and his 11m.


17.) 15 Aug 2019 17:27:07
That is so obviously Colt.
Only Colt can say Tarasenko is better than Marner and truly believe he is right and everybody else is wrong.
The dude didn't even crack 70 points in the last two seasons while being on a Stanley Cup winning roster.
Also, I don't understand what you expect Schenn to do for Tarasenko. Schenn is a 55-60 point centre. That's what he has been for his entire career. One season doesn't change that.


18.) 15 Aug 2019 17:35:50
**Not to mention he thinks Joel Edmundson is a top pairing defenceman.
The dude never even hit 70 games played in one season and his highest point total is 17 points lol.
I mean, even Jim Vandermeer played 70 games once and hit 20 points in a season, something Edmundson still hasn't accomplished.


19.) 15 Aug 2019 19:07:33
I meant to say wouldn't trade him.

Joel Edmonds DoD play top pairing D with petro. Last year he did half of season. I said he is top 4.

Also rating a Dman on points alone is dumb. Parayko got 33 and was one of the best dmen in the playoffs. But I guess he isn't top pairing either.


20.) 15 Aug 2019 19:18:33
''They get top pairing Physical LHD can play top pairing minutes. ''
33 is fine for somebody of Parayko's stature. Also, 33 is 1 short of being DOUBLE than the points Edmundson scored.
I'm sure most of us can agree Parayko is a top pairing defenceman.


21.) 15 Aug 2019 20:20:21
You said it. He is still a kid. Tarasenko is what he is. A heck of a winger who can get upwards of 40 goals. Marner is a kid who got 94 points. Players don't get goals without someone feeding them the puck most of the time.


22.) 15 Aug 2019 20:48:10
Has he played the #1lhd for blues for the majority of the Last 3 years with petro. yes so does that mean he got top pairing minutes. yes.


23.) 15 Aug 2019 20:50:06
I've been enjoying reading everything here, been a blast. Was trying to stay out of it, but I couldn't for 2 things.

Bozak is a great 3rd line centre, the leafs wanted him to be a #1 or#2. He was still good, but I believe as 3c he's a perfect fit.

Also, just because edmundson played 1st pair with petro, that doesn't mean very much. With Petro on D and o'Reilly playing C, you can probably have a banana peel as your other D and still it'll look good defensively.


24.) 15 Aug 2019 20:50:41
We all agree Parayko is a top pairing D-man. But why are we arguing about Blues players. Colt is a redwings fan now.
Larkin is a cool contract to think about!


25.) 15 Aug 2019 21:56:11
I love Bozak. My comment was directed towards a guy that bashed players when they were on the leafs, but would love them on the blues. Borgman will be the next top pair defensemen we hear about. Don’t kid yourself about Lehtera tank, some us were around when you told us he was one of the best set up guys in the league.


26.) 16 Aug 2019 00:06:46
I don't bash leaf players specifically just try to bring leaf fans back to reality. To a leafs fan every player prospect is the goat.


27.) 16 Aug 2019 04:11:41
Leafs17 I can remember that comment too lol.


28.) 16 Aug 2019 04:51:21
LOL @17 i rmbr him saying Lehtera/ Tarasenko would be some next deadly set up and sniper duo, oh boy.


29.) 16 Aug 2019 05:51:34
I can’t believe you’re still fighting me on this colt. Which name do you prefer to go by? You were ran off this site by people sick of you running your mouth about every player in the blues organization.


30.) 16 Aug 2019 13:02:37
Do you remember the "Shattenkirk Vacation" we got! It was glorious.


31.) 17 Aug 2019 17:47:33
Provo is a good dman, but I think the leafs would get better value in the long run by just letting him sign his RFA offer and banking those 4 first rounders.


 

 

17 Jan 2019 09:18:45
st.louis- Colton Parayko,Chris butler ,Nikita Soshnikov
toronto- Andreas Johnsson,Liljegren,trevor moore,calle rosen,Jeremy Bracco 1st 2019, 4th 2020

bobbywhorr

1.) 17 Jan 2019 14:33:31
The Blues are now pushing for a playoff spot and this deal wouldn't help them get there. I can't see any interest in this from the Blues.


2.) 17 Jan 2019 14:45:21
Cant remember if i responded or not.

It would have to be the following

Nylander/ Kappy sandin/ liljgren 1st (+ if you expect us to take cap dump)


3.) 17 Jan 2019 16:53:56
Tor gives up way too much.


4.) 17 Jan 2019 17:14:51
Not enough from the Leafs in this trade.


5.) 17 Jan 2019 17:56:28
Disagree all you want. Tor is on a down slide losing 5 out of 10 games and allowing 3.2 goals a game. Blues are 3 pts from a playoff spot with 1-3 games in hand before tonight why on earth would we trade you one of our stud dmen for anything less than an overpayment.

Good Luck with that.


6.) 17 Jan 2019 20:21:36
Blues are also 5 points outta dead last, I'd rather tank and get Hughes, good way to start a rebuild but in st. louis be more of a retooling then full rebuild.


7.) 17 Jan 2019 23:11:58
Shoots I wouldn't mind getting Hughes or kappy. But with bennington coming up we are winning.


 

 

 

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04 Jul 2019 18:14:37
With these contracts the leafs are giving out , i'm starting to think that nylander might be getting shipped out in the next few days

bobbywhorr

1.) 05 Jul 2019 00:52:59
Alright, can you finish your thoughts and predict where and for what he’ll go for?


2.) 05 Jul 2019 05:34:46
I don’t think he’s getting shipped out but I’d be ok with it. Is there a possible deal around Bennett who’s unsigned? I’d love him on the leafs and Calgary has Tkachuk and others that play a physical game. I’m sure Nylander will be a 60 point player for whoever he plays with. Bennett is nowhere near that but brings a lot more heart than Nylander.

Nylander +? for Bennett and Brodie.


3.) 05 Jul 2019 11:31:30
Nylander will not start the season in Toronto as confirmed by Kyle Dubas.


4.) 05 Jul 2019 12:23:00
He said this Mantha?


5.) 05 Jul 2019 14:54:40
Dubas listed many times that Nylander is untouchable he’d be an idiot to trade Nylander coming off a bad season Nylander has 90 point potential and will get there if glued to Mathews next year. Nylander is a god in Dubas’s mind.

Detroit Mantha is just talking out of his A** obviously no GM would come out and say “ X player will not start the season in our organization we are trying to trade him”.

It’s much more likely that Marner is traded then Nylander because of Nylanders current low value and if you think the leafs Consider Bennet And Bodie for him you’re crazy maybe Bennet And Rasmus Andersson.


6.) 05 Jul 2019 15:52:55
@yupp i'm not entirely sure where he would go or who he'd get traded for. Also to VB i think you underestimate nylanders current value, teams know he had a down year but most players do at some point or another. i guarantee they could get full value for him right now and i also think you're wrong about this 90 point potential of his. i'd rather keep the guy that actually got 90 points this year.


7.) 05 Jul 2019 16:01:51
if i had to guess though it'd be to carolina

Tor- Nylander, ceci, 2020 6th round pick

Car- Pesce, martinook, 2020 3rd round pick.


8.) 05 Jul 2019 16:32:27
I’d probably do the Pesce Trade honestly.


9.) 05 Jul 2019 18:47:54
Nylander dosnt get Peace, he might get a young RHD like Noah Juulsen but that's about it. That contract is 2 million too much.


10.) 05 Jul 2019 18:55:58
If he continues to struggle than yes Nylander is paid too much. If he is a 60pt man which he has shown his first 2 seasons, there is nothing wrong with $7 million. Mantha and shoots have taken over where the now quiet jets boys left off. Some of you just can’t stand the fact that the leafs are no longer bottom feeders.


11.) 05 Jul 2019 20:45:27
Just ignore him he’s a Canadians fan that used DetroitMantha to cover his bias.


12.) 05 Jul 2019 23:06:40
No related to the original post but GMs have said certain players will not return i. e. Briesbois with Domingue. I don’t thinks it’s smart by any stretch, and definitely hasn’t been said about Nylander.


13.) 06 Jul 2019 00:45:17
Mantha should read “what the puck” in the Montreal Gazette. It’s a good read about the frustration building up from guys like Weber, Price and Gallagher. How they’ve actually gotten worse over the off season and Carolina should be thanking Montreal for getting Aho at such a reasonable contract. I personally think Bergevin is far from done and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he offer sheets Marner. Why not mess with a rivals salary? Anyways, I’m not a hater like Mantha and some others, I’d like to see all Canadian teams in the playoffs. I’m sure Montreal will be back in the playoffs soon but Mantha needs to look at his own team. Nylander would be one of the top wingers on Montreal for fun. Don’t be so naive to think Nylander is going to be a 40pt player. I’d still like to see a Weber ++ for Nylander trade. Weber and Reilly would be fun to watch.


14.) 06 Jul 2019 01:37:28
Yes jbs happens it a lot of times especially with ufas.


15.) 06 Jul 2019 04:38:02
Weber ++ trade? I bet you would like to see it maybe when Weber is 40.


16.) 06 Jul 2019 04:59:40
I’d do Nylander for Weber I think if Montreal had good D that’d be a fair swap.

I also think Kessel and a late 1st for Nylander would be fair.


17.) 06 Jul 2019 06:56:19
And leafs 17 nobody should actually ever read anything written by Brendan Kelly lol. I can't believe you did to be honest. he is the James tanner of Montreal media just a click bait artist.


18.) 06 Jul 2019 07:15:38
I was just going off age and the chances of Nylander being a 60 point winger. Weber is a stud and my favorite, I’ve said it before. If he’s healthy, he’s a beast.


19.) 06 Jul 2019 23:37:16
I don’t know the writer but I’m sure he’s just like Craig Button and knows nothing about anything. You should write an article about the habs, you’re by far the smartest guy around and seem to be on the same page as Bergevin every step of the way. I’m sure the vets on the team are loving the off season improvements so far.


20.) 07 Jul 2019 00:24:20
Kelly is much worse then button though.


21.) 07 Jul 2019 02:58:42
Yeah yeah leafs17 it's ok to assume that you know what the vets on the habs are thinking though right? Lol maybe they are thinking well we sure are glad bergevin didn't have to trade half our team away just to get under the cap.


22.) 07 Jul 2019 15:02:34
Well to be fair the leafs only traded 1 core piece and got 2 back.


23.) 07 Jul 2019 15:26:57
2 core pieces? Who? The guy who is going to be there for a season or less or one of the 2 guys you said sucked before they came to Toronto?


24.) 07 Jul 2019 19:44:32
I never said Kerfoot sucked? Why are you making stuff up LOL.


25.) 07 Jul 2019 20:04:52
I think he’s talking about Ceci vbb’s. Just let him have it or he will continue to ramble, even when nobody responds to him, lol.


26.) 07 Jul 2019 23:32:37
@leafs17 you can't help but respond so when everyone else gives you will still be around to talk to I'm sure lol. Your starting to sound like your old buddy biased Jim next step for you is to start making fake accounts to try and win an argument lol.


27.) 08 Jul 2019 01:10:39
"Everyone else gives up"


28.) 08 Jul 2019 01:31:05
Oh and I'm sorry vbbb maybe you didn't say that but you did say soderberg and kerfoot are trash like lucic level trash lol and it really isn't hard to find that comment if you want to go look lol.


29.) 08 Jul 2019 15:35:08
Habby do you ever think that some people just don’t want to argue for 3 days straight? I’d rather be on here talking hockey with some people that know the game, not fighting with tools and trolls. I’m not sure how I’m like Jim, other than I disagree with you a lot. I won’t make a fake account but you can stop agreeing with yourself. It’s bad enough you talk to yourself, no need to click agree too. We know there’s nobody else on this site that agrees with you.


30.) 08 Jul 2019 15:48:32
Both of those players are good? I’ve never said that. And no one is Lucic level bad.


31.) 08 Jul 2019 16:32:20
Vbb when I said it's not hard to search up where you said that I really meant it lol. if anyone is wondering they can just search the name kerfoot and you won't have to scroll down far to see the thread where you did say it. And leafs17 if you want to talk hockey by all means go ahead.


 

 

 

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21 Sep 2019 10:33:45
I'm not a fan of vb's but at least he's above calling people dumb and derping around like a bob probert ass blast. Guy def has over 200 IQ on a bad day c'mon.

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29 Aug 2019 07:14:45
Vb if you ever need someone to talk to about your marner derangement syndrome, i'm here for you bro.

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05 Jul 2019 16:01:51
if i had to guess though it'd be to carolina

Tor- Nylander, ceci, 2020 6th round pick

Car- Pesce, martinook, 2020 3rd round pick.

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05 Jul 2019 15:52:55
@yupp i'm not entirely sure where he would go or who he'd get traded for. Also to VB i think you underestimate nylanders current value, teams know he had a down year but most players do at some point or another. i guarantee they could get full value for him right now and i also think you're wrong about this 90 point potential of his. i'd rather keep the guy that actually got 90 points this year.

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