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14 Jun 2016 19:55:34
CBL: Hartnell 25% retained (4.5 mil x 3)
MTL: Emelin 50% retained (4.1 mil x 2)

al16

1.) 14 Jun 2016 19:57:26
Could work


2.) 14 Jun 2016 19:58:09
Good deal.


3.) 14 Jun 2016 20:42:29
I don't think montreal would retain that much. Maybe 35% retained but add Andrighetto. Overall good deal.


4.) 15 Jun 2016 00:34:52
You guys Underate Hartnall he's not trash he's a good top 6 winger Emelin is a 7th D IMO.


5.) 15 Jun 2016 02:58:37
Hartnell belongs in the ahl


6.) 16 Jun 2016 02:24:44
Habs pass, Emelin is a physical force they need on D,

& Hartenll can't skate.


 

 

14 Jun 2016 19:34:54
Eberle to mil for 9oa.

al16

1.) 14 Jun 2016 20:18:05
who is mil?


2.) 14 Jun 2016 20:26:34
Mtl * so Montreal for 9oa.


3.) 14 Jun 2016 21:22:58
Not sure if eberle can fetch 9th overall, but oil could use it to draft a dman. However, with that being said, I don't think montreal is going to do that.


4.) 14 Jun 2016 21:24:06
Its just interesting because I have seen jvr for the 9oa and Toronto fans seem to like it. IMO jvr is better than eberle and cheaper. But a lot of people seem to disagree. I think oilers fans are the worst when it comes to overvaluing their players. Right next to habs fans haha.


5.) 14 Jun 2016 21:35:20
Lol eberle could be more valuable because he puts up more points than jvr? that's probably why. I think you're the worst at thinking who overvalues or not, because Edmonton is pretty minimal for overvaluing except for all the shit stirrers and guys who aren't serious about trades.


6.) 14 Jun 2016 21:51:43
Everyone overvalues RNH, but Eberle is usually correctly valued. This however is too much. There are reports that Eberle could be got for as low as say the 19th oa pick (NYI) and a B prospect.


7.) 14 Jun 2016 22:10:57
Hahaha! Leafs players get overvalued 200% more times here by leafs fans than oilers players do. It's actually not even close.
And not saying pikers players don't get overvalued at all, cause they do. Buts its not even close to how much leafs players get overvalued.


8.) 14 Jun 2016 22:57:41
Eberle and galchenyuk? Mhm i like it. But i would like to see yak and gally


9.) 14 Jun 2016 23:36:43
@Kings, not sure why Oil would trade an established top 6 player for a draft pick. I say that rumour is BS.


10.) 14 Jun 2016 23:56:31
Eberle is not worth a 1st at 6 mil especially 9oa.


11.) 15 Jun 2016 02:27:17
Eberle isn't worth a 1st? In what world is that true? Also Eberle is well worth his contract, i like this trade it could help both teams.


12.) 15 Jun 2016 02:59:42
Eberle for 9overall, Eller, Galchenyuk. Sign Eberle to a 8.5 mil for 9 years


 

 

20 Apr 2016 07:04:00
From mtl: 1st Rd 2016 (assuming 9th overall), emelin
From edm: eberle

Assuming edm gets 2nd or 3rd overall they draft a bigger more physical winger to replace eberle. They get a d-man and a draft pick. All Montreal gives up essentially is emelin and Michael McLeod.

al16

1.) 21 Apr 2016 14:32:31
Decent value but I'm not sure that this is what either team is really looking for.


2.) 21 Apr 2016 14:47:41
We don't want picks.


3.) 22 Apr 2016 02:45:29
Oilers don't want Emelin or picks, so no interest at all.


 

 

 

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14 Jun 2016 19:36:53
Who is better eberle or jvr, not considering salary.

al16

1.) 14 Jun 2016 19:50:19
Jvr cause of his size.


2.) 14 Jun 2016 20:04:44
JVR is more consistent IMO.


3.) 14 Jun 2016 21:41:19
JVR, maybe a bit biased but Eberle has played with better players and JVR averaged 28/ 29goals sense he came to T. O not bad and obviously being 6'3 helps.


4.) 14 Jun 2016 22:14:15
Another silly question. With all things considered I think they might be even. Leafs fans will say JVR and Oilers fans will say Eberle. And there's nothing wrong with that.
I'm not a fan of Eberle myself, but I believe he and JVR are equally both great players.


5.) 14 Jun 2016 22:22:35
I'd take JVR over Eberle. All things considered. Even if you switched there salaries i'd still take JVR.


 

 

13 Jun 2016 15:47:26
I am curious what people think trouba value and potential value is. Is he a 3-4 d-man is he a number 1.

al16

1.) 13 Jun 2016 17:28:29
He's a 3-4 right now but I think he has the potential to be a #2.


2.) 13 Jun 2016 17:30:42
I agree with bUd.


3.) 13 Jun 2016 18:44:56
Top pairing upside for sure. eapecially if he has a strong partner.

I think his value is high. Tough to find high upside dmen under the age of 25.


4.) 13 Jun 2016 18:44:56
Top pairing upside for sure. eapecially if he has a strong partner.

I think his value is high. Tough to find high upside dmen under the age of 25.


 

 

11 Jun 2016 17:08:08
I see people saying that Domi, Strome, 7oa, 20oa is not worth Matthews. I think it is and I explain why *mini essay ahead*
I think a good comparable to Mathews is Toews both have skill, leadership great 200 foot game and finishing ability.
Strome has great size, playmaking ability, good shot but won't kill you with his speed. I see similarities between him and Thornton. I don't think he has the capability of being one of the greatest set up men in history like Joe. I think the best comparable is Sean Monahan. I see the 7oa being Olli juolevi, good skater, good size, defensive awareness and not a risk in own zone, has offensive upside good two d-man. Best projection is Alex petrangelo. A more realistic comparable though is countryman Olli Matta.

al16

1.) 11 Jun 2016 18:28:45
you didn't really explain anything, just simply outlined a bunch of opinions that somehow manage to argue nothing when put together.


2.) 11 Jun 2016 19:09:00
Sorry I accidentally hit send, I also think domi has the potential to score 70 points. What I am saying is that I would not trade the combined potential of strome domi and the 7oa. And if that 20 overall becomes something like jt miller, then its really not worth it. I wouldn't trade toews for Monahan, Domi, and Matta . For people that say Arizona needs to add is crazy. Toronto fans seem to think that Matthews is some magical saviour or think that he is the same as mcdavid.


 

 

19 Apr 2016 22:54:22
Subban for nurse and eberle.

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20 Apr 2016 07:07:43
From col: Duchesne, barrie
From mil: subban, hudon.

al16

1.) 21 Apr 2016 14:38:17
Your dreaming if you think Subban gets that package.


 

 

 

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14 Jun 2016 21:24:06
Its just interesting because I have seen jvr for the 9oa and Toronto fans seem to like it. IMO jvr is better than eberle and cheaper. But a lot of people seem to disagree. I think oilers fans are the worst when it comes to overvaluing their players. Right next to habs fans haha.

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14 Jun 2016 20:26:34
Mtl * so Montreal for 9oa.

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14 Jun 2016 15:27:02
Matta is a top 2 haters can't hate on that pits defense. He proved so many doubters wrong and defensemen have more value. Matta is worth Larkin especially sense Detroit needs right hand D.

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14 Jun 2016 01:42:42
Weren't the oilers asking for 2nd for yak but couldn't get it which is why he wasn't traded? If so any team that offers a 2nd Edmonton takes it an runs. I don't think teams add a player. Unless it's a cap dump.

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13 Jun 2016 15:36:35
Mclarty08 he would become their 3rd line centre. Galchenyuk, plekanec, bozak. And for a team that has a bare cupboards when it comes to prospects it doesn't make sense. Kadri for dumba seems fair though.

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14 Jun 2016 16:25:28
Forgot big buff after letang.

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14 Jun 2016 16:06:32
Weber has fallen off
Josi
Doughty
Keith
Burns
Hedman
Kleinberg
Subban
Karisson
OEL
Petro
Vlasic
Letang
Exblad*
Gostisbere*
Weber
Sutter
Mcdonagh
* will be higher up by end of next year.

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14 Jun 2016 15:16:55
I do think he is undervalued but I don't think top 5.

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14 Jun 2016 15:12:09
Pacioretty is better over the last 4 years only 3 players have more goals than him, ovi, stammer and pavelski. Patches only gets like 4 points less than stamkos. I agree rnh is better than galchenyuk. But if there is a defenseman that is worse defensively than subban it is karlsson. Karlsson doesn't even kill penalties and the last time they both played full seasons only 6 points separated them. So to say karlsson is way better is crazy. Imo subban is slightly better.

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11 Jun 2016 21:15:54
Well I think that Matthews will be a 70 point guy similar to kopitar, if he plays with marner his stats will benefit. I haven't seen enough of his defensive play night in and night out through a 40 plus games. The details in his game will make him great. Right now subban in 5 years Matthews.

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