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17 Jan 2018 16:37:28
Travis Sanheim + 2018 1st (2019 if Flyers miss playoffs) for Evander Kane

Nolan Patrick for Max Pacioretty + 3rd 2018

Mike Green for 3rd 2018 and Isaac Ratcliffe

1.) 17 Jan 2018 17:52:26
Not a chance they trade Patrick for Pacioretty what the F.
Green is worth more.

2.) 17 Jan 2018 18:14:21
Hahahahahaha wtf.

3.) 17 Jan 2018 21:03:01
So Nolan Patrick, Sanheim and a 1st for patches and kane essentially? No.



15 Jan 2018 16:45:00
T. Greiss + 3rd 2018 for P. Mrazek
Mrazek is a bit of a gamble but is a low cost option that could fix the Islanders goalie problem. Mrazek has fallen out of favour in Detroit and they could use the pick.

M. Vande Sompel + 2nd 2018 (CGY) for N. Hjarlmarsson
Hjarlmarsson gives NYI a nice shutdown presence and could help in the playoffs. Arizona gets nice peices to help the rebuild.

K. Bellows + 1st 2018 (NYI) + R. Pulock + J. Ho-Sang for A. Ekblad
Ekblad hasn't become the star he was supposed to but still has massive potential. He could use a change of scenery and this is a pretty good offer for Florida as they get multiple good peices that could make them a contender in a couple years in addition to their already existing core.

1.) 15 Jan 2018 17:30:05
Can’t see why Detroit gives up on a 25 year old goaltender whose contract is up this year for a 31 year old one.
25 is so young for a goalie still, so they should try and get a young one back since their are definitely not ready to compete for the cup.

As for the second trade I doubt Arizona takes that.

And islanders wow huge no imo, they give up way too many pieces of their future. Ekblad is obviously still a great player and has that potential but that’s a lot to give up.

2.) 15 Jan 2018 17:47:48
not enough for ekblad or hjarlmersson.



13 Jan 2018 12:58:50
Probably crazy but if Arizona blows things up:

O. Ekman-Larsson for 1st 2018 (CGY) + K. Bellows + 1st 2019 (NYI)

D. Stepan + 4th 2019 (ARZ) for Conditional 2nd 2018 (CAR) + N. Roy
*Condition: Becomes 1st if CAR makes it to conference finals

N. Hjarlmarsson for Conditional 3rd 2018 (TOR) + E. Rasanen
Condition: Becomes 2nd if TOR makes it to conference finals

T. Rieder for F. Sandstrom

I'm not saying do all of them but any of them close?

1.) 13 Jan 2018 13:23:54
I like the Toronto one from TO's perspective. that's basically two seconds.



12 Jan 2018 21:44:37
Oliver Kylington + Curtis Lazar for MTL 2nd round pick

Calgary gets a pick that they can use to select a forward prospect that can help shore up the pipeline and neither Lazar or Kylington have great opportunities in Calgary.

Montreal gets two players that are much more NHL ready than anyone they'd get in the second round, this will help them more as their cup window is closing quickly. Lazar can play a bottom 6 role and Kylington still has lots of potential.

1.) 12 Jan 2018 22:45:27
Sounds like a draft day deal.

2.) 12 Jan 2018 23:42:00
I don't think Montreal even had a cup window at all. But I know what your saying. I think the 2nd round picks they have would serve them better to be part of a better package, to get someone to help now. Lazar, I shake my head about him.

Dunno what happened there. Maybe offer a 6th. kind of a last chance to get his once promising career back on track. even if he could become a Torey Mitchell type.4th line energy guy. however, but, like some have said (And they are right) Hans are full of 4th liners.

3.) 13 Jan 2018 05:29:10
Interesting to fill montreals prospect pool a bit. But as I say that I consider if Lazar is a project anymore or a compete dud. And I had hopes for Kylington and am
A fan but would Montreals just hope who they could pick at 2nd be better for them than Kyl and Lazar.
I think they would just lean to picking their own guy with a 2nd.



04 Jan 2018 16:22:15
Juuso Valimaki for Sam Reinhart

Similar to Serg for Drouin except neither are as good as their comparable. Addresses needs for both teams

1.) 04 Jan 2018 17:06:01
Nope. Reinhart is proven at least. I'd actually say that Reinhart is pretty even with Drouin, but Valimaki is nowhere neat Serg.

2.) 04 Jan 2018 17:29:19
TopShelfSlappers, Drouin is much more valuable than Reinhart, look at their stats. Also Valimaki has had the better junior career than Sergachev so I wouldn’t say he’s no where near Sergachev.

3.) 04 Jan 2018 18:50:29
Just checked though, Reinhart has two high fourty point years. Drouin had a thirty point year, a year riddled with contreversy and a fifty five ish point year. Reinhart isn't way below Drouin. This is still a no from Buffalo. Reinhart went second in a decently deep draft, while Valimaki went mid first round in a rather average-poor draft year. You can't judge players based on draft position, but if I'm Buffalo, I'm not giving up on Reinhart unless there's a proven piece coming back the other way.

4.) 04 Jan 2018 19:35:15
I don’t know how to look at the comparisons but I agree with topshelf that sabres shouldn’t move Reinhart yet unless it’s a sure thing coming back. They passed on guys like draisatl, nylander, and ehlers for him, can’t admit so quickly that that was a big mistake. He may never be as good as those guys, may just take longer, but they should see it through if that’s the only return.

5.) 04 Jan 2018 23:51:14
The concern with Reinhart is that he’s not improving. In fact you could arguing he going backwards. With a young team with a lot of upcoming talent like the Sabres, Reinhart has to establish himself as a top 6 forward soon before that door closes. Next season there is a good chance Nylander and possibly Mittelstadt make the jump. If Reinhart can’t keep up and improve, his value will just continue to deteriorate.




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16 Jan 2018 02:46:53
B. Point + S. Koekkoek for J. Faulk + V. Rask

Canes get a #1 center for now and the future. Tampa Bay gets a top pairing d man to play with Hedman and they already have great center depth. Other peices can be added from with side but this is a base

1.) 16 Jan 2018 04:16:58
Not sure Tampa is looking to trade Point. His production for cheap and controllability is too valuable for them. Maybe theyd move Johnson in a deal like this but he obviously doesn't have the same value. Could see Koekkoek Johnson Stephens and a pick or something dunno if Carolina would take that though.

2.) 16 Jan 2018 05:30:57
Not sure why Bolts would even consider this. Point is a really good player, young. and cheap.

3.) 16 Jan 2018 14:19:34
Point is cheap for now but looking a year ahead they have to sign him and Sergachev each of which (it they continue their current growth) are easily worth 6+ mil. No way they can afford this. Anyways they already have a great center core but when looking at their defense it isn’t fantastic, they could definately use another puck moving d man and Faulk is right handed, something they lack. Also Faulk is signed for under 5 mil.

4.) 16 Jan 2018 16:30:58
Point is after next season. Sergachev the year after that. Doubt either gets 6+ in rfa honestly. Kuch Johnson Hedman Palat etc. All didn't in their second contract. Callahan is off books by the time Sergachev needs a contract. Girardi Coburn Stralman in time for Point. Tampa is in a much better cap spot than people are giving them credit for especially if the cap goes up. If they trade a center itll probably be the guy Point replaces (Johnson) not Point himself. Johnson struggled at center this year as well their center depth exists but they don't have a bunch of sure fire top 6 guys.

5.) 16 Jan 2018 17:58:08
jbs you're really good at this, I agree with everything you said. Also, there's Killorn who'd def go before Point does.

6.) 16 Jan 2018 23:02:49
Jbs, I agree with you but if Sergacheb continues to dominate he will be asking for 7+ million even as a rfa. he's just that good.

7.) 17 Jan 2018 00:28:29
No he won’t look at his TOI + his useage in his own end is limited.

8.) 17 Jan 2018 00:59:56
3 points in his las 12 games on a team as easy to get points on as tampa isn't really dominating.

9.) 17 Jan 2018 02:40:38
Sergachev has been great but he's got a lot of learning to do still especially in D end. People said Kuch was going to get 7+ on his last deal and he got 4.5. If he gets 7 something might have to be done but i still think that's Johnson/ Killorn before Point. If cap increases like Bettman says i still think itll be ok.

10.) 17 Jan 2018 02:50:31
Gabby ypur just mad that we traded him for Drouin lol.



14 Jan 2018 05:24:00
Just an idea but I think it's be cool if the NHL created an All-NHL team at the end of each season. Exactly the same as the NBA (they have 3 All-NBA teams). This would recognize the true best players that season and wouldn't be a fan vote like the All-Star game is because let's face it the All-Star is a popularity contest.

1.) 14 Jan 2018 06:22:56
Umm. we have the 1st All star team
And the 2nd. since like the 50s or something. Even an all rookie team.



03 Jan 2018 21:07:48
With Buffalo's glaring need at defense and the upcoming draft being stocked with defensive talent. Should Buffalo trade someone like Ryan O'Reilly for a top 15/10 pick?
With their pick they could target Dahlin, Boqvist or Hughes and with the new pick they acquired they could target McIsaac, Merkley, Wilde or Smith.
This would give them a bright future on the defensive end to compliment their young high end forwards

1.) 04 Jan 2018 05:19:40
Yeah, probably.

That 7.5/ year for like 6 more years brings O'Reilly's value down.

And if they were to select somebody between 10-15 I'd very much like to see them select Joe Veleno.

2.) 04 Jan 2018 20:19:25
Joe Veleno is overrated I’ve played with him many times he is nothing special very nice hands, nice shot and a good IQ. This is at the QMJHL level. He dosent even stand out there.



03 Jan 2018 17:51:19
So far he are my thoughts about some of the 2018 draft eligible prospects at the WJC.

Rasmus Dahlin: He has played a fantastic tournament so far and secured his position at consensus number #1.
Filip Zadina: Also has had a great tournament, being a leader for the Czechs and showcasing his goal scoring ability. He has made a strong bid for 3rd overall.
Brady Tkachuk: Strong tournament being the highest scoring 17 year old, his draft stock is on the rise

Rasmus Kapuri: He needed to have a good tournament to be considered a potential top 10 pick, he has yet to record a point and has struggled.
Jakub Skarek: One of the top goaltenders in the 2018 draft but has posted below average numbers in his appearances. I still expect him to be chosen as one of the first goaltenders:
Andre Svechnikov: he's has a good tournament so far but this was his chance to make a big bid for #1 overall and so far he has not proven that he deserves to be chosen first. He was coming off injury but still has not surpassed Dahlin

1.) 03 Jan 2018 21:15:17
Lundestrom and Hughes have both had excellent tournaments as well.



19 Dec 2017 05:53:22
What's Michael Ferlands value? He's on pace for 31 goals and 43 points. He has been inconsistent however and maybe the flames could benefit from selling high on him by packaging him for a real top line winger. Thoughts?

1.) 19 Dec 2017 21:10:30
He's hard to gauge. isn't he playing with Monohan and Gaudreau? So his goal scoring numbers are going to be inflated. Honestly, he's more of a bottom 6 forward IMO. but good for him sticking with the top guys. I'd keep him on the Flames. seems to be doing well there.

2.) 20 Dec 2017 12:39:38
Micheal Ferland + Rasmus Andersson + First Round Pick for Brendan Gallagher.




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17 Jan 2018 05:12:31
No from Montreal. While the potential for the prospects is there it’s a massive risk. Phillips is very risky due to his size and neither show elite potential.



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17 Jan 2018 04:03:07
No from Calgary.



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15 Jan 2018 22:15:50
Lets be real now the next FT4A?



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14 Jan 2018 23:24:01
Definately no from Carolina, that package could get them a much better center.



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12 Jan 2018 00:56:18
Sosa my thoughts on Jankowski are that’ll he’ll probably be the Flames 3rd line center for the future, provides good energy and some scoring but honestly I don’t see him being anything much more than that. I’d say you can count on him being a 30-40 Point scorer and good defensively.




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