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05 Oct 2018 18:41:20
All right I will jump on the trade Nylander bandwagon.

Minnesota: Dumba
Toronto: Nylander

I think a 1 for 1 trade would work out and it fits the needs of both teams. I do admit I see Toronto play more than Minnesota. Can you let me know if this is fair or do I rate Nylander too high?


1.) 05 Oct 2018 19:17:27
It comes down to simply Minnesota just not making this trade. They aren’t going to trade Dumba. As for the value 🤷🏼‍♂️ I think it’s close but with Nylanders demands and dumba locked up long term I’d say Toronto would need to add.

2.) 05 Oct 2018 22:31:44
the issue is Dumba is cost controlled for many of his prime years and that makes his value even higher.

3.) 05 Oct 2018 22:35:05
I think mcjesus is dead on. Value wise they’re close, Willy May even have a tiny bit more, hard to say. But when contract is weighed in, it’s a big no from minny.

4.) 06 Oct 2018 00:39:25
McJesus took the words right out of my mouth.

Minnesota is pretty tight against cap and with Suter and Parise’s contracts, will be for a very long time. They need to pinch every penny they can. Last thing they need is to overpay for Nylander on a long term contract.

Everyone loves Dumba. How couldn’t they? He’d look amazing in blue and white. If you’re reading this right now Dumba, then just know that there’s is another place for you if you ever get unhappy in Minnesota, you can always come back to Canada.

5.) 06 Oct 2018 00:43:42
Well. this isn't bad . I think it all depends on what Nylander would sign for. Dumba is signed already, and looks like a good deal fo both player and team.
I think I read that Nylander wants 8 million? Did I read that right? he's more like 6.5.

6.) 06 Oct 2018 00:22:10
Ya minnasnowta wouldn’t do it it’s really close though!

7.) 06 Oct 2018 02:55:11
What if they sing him for a 4 year x 4.5 mill. He would still have a year of team control before UFA. Minnesota would Have a cap savings of 1.5 mill. (Dumba 5years x 6 milll) . Or at that price does Toronto keep him?

8.) 06 Oct 2018 05:32:37
Not a chance Minnesota would consider it. Leafs would need to add.

9.) 06 Oct 2018 06:41:50
Nylander is asking for $8/ 8.5M long term. And you're suggesting he would sign for $4.5M for 4 years? That's laughable. I understand the idea of then still
Being able to cash in on a long term contract then still, but man, That's just funny. Why wouldn't he just do that in Toronto where he apperently loves then?

10.) 06 Oct 2018 18:14:28
Of course Toronto keeps him at $4.5 mill lol if he was willing to play 4 more years at $4.5 mill they would have signed it LAST July 1st.

11.) 06 Oct 2018 19:05:28
I thought of 4.5 over 4 years because that is where Kadri is at. I also think Kadri is a better player right now than Nylander is. I don’t think any GM thinks Nylander is worth 8 mill or they would offer sheet him. I wonder if this will turn into a Mike Peca situation.

12.) 06 Oct 2018 23:25:07
Kadri May be a better fit layer than Nylander but probably not ceiling. However that Kadri deal is 2 years old and he has outperformed it each season. It’s not true value.



28 Dec 2017 21:19:37
Toronto: Hornqvist and 2018 first.

Pittsburgh: Bozak (50%) and Komarov.


1.) 29 Dec 2017 04:02:24
Hornqvist > bozak, and komarov is definitely not worth a first, even if its a late one.



04 Nov 2017 14:46:34
Since Montreal wants to trade Price. How about he comes back home to B. C. Vancouver trades Markstrom, Boeser and a 1st for Price.


1.) 04 Nov 2017 15:18:58
Vancouver has Demko almost ready to go, so they will have an elite goalie soon anyway. No from Van but not because of the value.

2.) 04 Nov 2017 15:19:21
Lol are you serious
You don't have any player that has Price value or not even more than the half of his value
Wanna trade your best player for 20 pucks?

3.) 04 Nov 2017 17:53:22
Demko is a lottery ticket, not a guaranteed elite goalie. Remember Justin pogge for the leafs? Rated #1 goalie prospect in the world. or jack Campbell, top 10 or 12 pick and supposed to be Dallas star goalie.? And many more stories like that. Until the kid is consistently playing in the nhl and putting up great numbers, he’s a lottery ticket. Being a good NCAA goalie or a good AHL goalie is not reason for a team to pass on a carry price lol.

4.) 04 Nov 2017 20:57:24
Can I have horvat?

5.) 04 Nov 2017 22:22:57
This is ridiculous my goodness wtf.

6.) 05 Nov 2017 00:57:38
What do you mean with Horvat? Make a counter offer. If you want Horvat for Price, 1 for 1. Sure I think the Canucks will do that. I would.

7.) 05 Nov 2017 09:25:15
You can have Andersen. We'll add Bozak and Marner for Price.



13 May 2017 13:26:37
What if Vancouver trades the forth round pick they got from San Jose to Dallas for Nieme or Lehtonen and Dallas third. Vancouver can then tank and try to rebuild through the draft.


1.) 13 May 2017 16:08:53
Dont think Canucks are going to have to try and "tank" to get good draft picks for the next while.



23 Apr 2017 01:33:39
Toronto: 2017 2nd round pick and Kerby Rychel

Vancouver: Erik Gudbranson

I really think this trade works for both teams. Toronto gets a top 4 penalty killing defenseman. Vancouver gets a young winger with size and physicality and another draft pick.


1.) 23 Apr 2017 05:06:17
This is interesting but I'm not sure Gudbranson is the solution to Toronto's D-problems. Toronto also got Rychel for the purpose of going towards rebuild. So I don't think they want to trade their young forwards like Rychel yet.

Value wise, I think it's close. Maybe a 3rd instead of 2nd.

2.) 23 Apr 2017 14:33:39
Leafs need a better defenceman than Erik Gudbranson.
Your value is fine for this trade, but if the Leafs wanna be serious contenders next year they'll need at least one more really good top 4 d-man. Gudbranson kinda just a number 4 d-man. Nothing more nothing less.

3.) 24 Apr 2017 15:47:59
Good trade, Toronto barely gave up any valuable assets and they bring in a guy that can fill out the top six, while helpping out Van. Toronto can't just fix all their problems with one move, there have to be tiny pieces as well.




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02 Dec 2018 16:37:54
Looking at the Nylander contract. It looks like almost half the money will be given to Nylander by July 1 2019. Does this mean he will be traded after that date. A team will only pay him 5 mill per year on average for year 2 through 6. And a cap hit of 6.9. This would be perfect for a budget team.


1.) 02 Dec 2018 16:52:28
Yes I'm sure that was a part of the thought process from leaf management to keep their options open.

2.) 02 Dec 2018 17:34:34
It’s definitely a possibility. Like Habby said, I’m sure they thought of it. Depends on a lot of things. What they can get Matthews/ marner signed for, how much the cap rises in the next cpl years (hopefully a lot with another expansion), what other players (Defense) become available in the meantime etc. Plus how he plays. If he puts up 40 goals in the first cpl seasons then they almost couldn’t afford to trade him atvthat cap hit, or would get a ton for him.

3.) 02 Dec 2018 23:24:54
If you were Leafs, would you be willing to pay Nylander $18M and then trade him less than a year after signing him?

That front loaded contract pretty much means he is a Leaf for a while.

4.) 03 Dec 2018 04:41:19
Yeah I think he stays with the leafs until after July 1st at least.

5.) 03 Dec 2018 17:24:34
Toronto has enough money. If they get a big return. I don’t think MLSE cares about 18 mill. They probably make that in beer sales.

6.) 03 Dec 2018 18:09:00
Yup. They take on uninsured contracts like Horton and paid him $30 mill cash just for cap space. They don’t care about bonus money up front.

7.) 03 Dec 2018 18:49:21
The other team in that trade would probably want that bonus paid though.

8.) 03 Dec 2018 22:58:09
For sure they would want the leafs to pay the bonus. Carolina was apparently the team most interested. They’re an internal budget team, not a cap team. So If they were still interested in 2 years, or 3 years (a lot can change with who they sign and draft in the mean time) they could have him for years 4,5,6 for a total of $14.5mill or about $4.8 per season actual cash while the cap hit is $6.97 still. Perfect situation for them and probably a few other small market teams that don’t spend to the cap.

9.) 04 Dec 2018 00:00:21
Yeah that's why I said I think he stays in toronto at least until the bonus is paid. Not only would a lot of other teams be willing to give up more in return then but there will also be more options for the leafs to consider.



02 Nov 2018 03:20:49
We are in November and the Canucks and the Leafs have the same amount of points. The Canadians are ahead of the Leafs in the standings. I guess they have to cancel the parade down Young St.


1.) 02 Nov 2018 03:44:49
Little early for plannin, cancelling or any of that. .
I think around Christmas we will all know what is real and what isnt.

2.) 02 Nov 2018 05:53:36
Just havin doe fun.

3.) 02 Nov 2018 10:29:17
Habs have the same amount of points don't they?

4.) 02 Nov 2018 14:32:30
Yeah. Same points with one game in hand. Technically they should be ahead then.

5.) 02 Nov 2018 19:06:09
Ok but wouldn't that mean toronto would still be ahead of vancouver?



29 Oct 2018 03:09:41
In all honesty. Good job Edmonton. Starting to play good hockey. They still have holes but they are not relying on McJesus all the time.


1.) 29 Oct 2018 06:25:16
It’s nice to see most of the Canadian teams off to a good start. The expectations weren’t very high to start the season.

2.) 29 Oct 2018 21:44:34
Yes, it's nice to see Canadian teams doing fairly well. My biggest disappointment so far has been probably the best team in Canada, the Jets. I really thought they should have taken 1 of the 2 games vs Leafs . I think they are superior in every aspect, so was disappointed in seeing them lose both. . ( not superior in Centerman) .
Not trying to start some big deal with Leafs fans, Just feel Jets haven't found there stride yet and once they do will be the better team
Wouldn't suprise me if these 2 make an all Canadian final.

3.) 30 Oct 2018 11:53:48
Jets are looking slow but it's only early. They should be a tough playoff team though.

4.) 30 Oct 2018 12:08:49
Jets are definitely built for playoffs.

5.) 30 Oct 2018 17:29:16
They jus seem off. I don't know. from the goalie, the D and the forwards. Schieffle looked the best and most "normal". but the rest. justmissing something, not sure what is with Laine. I had him picked for the Rocket and truly believed he was in for 50+ goal season.
Guess it's still early, but so far not overly impressed.

6.) 30 Oct 2018 23:12:40
Laine really looked disengaged vs the leafs in both games last week, more so the Saturday night. He did hustle back to block an empty netter attempt at the end, but throughout the game before that he was coughing up the puck and just floating around. Seemed very frustrated every time they showed him on the bench. But With players and leaders like Wheeler, Buff and Schieffle and the rest of that roster, I’m thinking it’s a bit of a bad spell and they will be a force again soon enough.



26 Jul 2018 02:11:53
Will Mark Hunter take over as Canucks president of hockey operations? I personally hope so.


1.) 26 Jul 2018 04:58:11
Why? What does he bring other than London knights specialty? I personally don’t see much value in bringing him and I rather have benning take over that job and see how things go.

2.) 26 Jul 2018 15:45:58
I hope not he’s drafted well for the leafs.

3.) 26 Jul 2018 16:10:00
A099 he is extremely educated and connected in the CHL, not just OHL or London. He’s a great guy at assessing talent in young players which is a guy I would want as a part of my rebuild, if not leading it. He obviously has a bias towards Knights because he knows these kids, their families, their character etc. He drafted and developed marner down there, but he also identified Dermott from Erie as a 2nd rounder from watching him a lot against London and lots of others. I don’t necessarily thinks he needs to be president, but it would be foolish not to let him be a part of accumulating prospects for you if he wanted to be.



14 Apr 2018 01:15:06
So I'm wondering how does Kadri get 3 games and Dustin Brown got a fine for pretty much the same hit. I'm starting to think Kings players are treated differently.


1.) 14 Apr 2018 07:24:34
You say this two days after Doughty gets suspended for 1 game? 🤔🤔

As a Canuks fan you just really dislike the Kings. Inundertand that.
Kadri is a repeat offender and deserved his suspension. Can't believe people argue he's not a complete douchebag. I know people defended him a ton not too long ago.

2.) 14 Apr 2018 13:47:06
I think the hit was called for you can’t let players go after your star players but imo he deserved a 1 game suspension I think 3 is to much. Dirty his but not an intent to injure.

3.) 14 Apr 2018 13:51:41
Kadri deserved 2, which equates to around 5reg season. 3 is a bit much imo, cause that's like 7-8 reg season, but its a crackdown, so it makes sense.

However, if Marchand/ Backes pull out antics like this in the future of this series and don't get punishment, i'm going to be upset, cause this does set a standard.

4.) 14 Apr 2018 16:16:46
You say the hit was warranted then say there was no intent to injure? Lol “the good for him for sticking up for a teammate” argument is bad. Drop the gloves with him and sit out for 5 minutes not run him from behind and sit for 3 games. I also think the wingels hit should’ve been a penalty and the brown hit you refered to should’ve been a suspension.

5.) 14 Apr 2018 16:18:09
Also TopShelf isn’t it just double? 3 playoff games is equivalent to 6 regular season games I think.

6.) 14 Apr 2018 17:50:00
I don’t like that Kadri was suspended 3 playoff games but it’s was a deserved punishment. I’m a Kadri fan. He plays an important role and does it on the edge but keeps to the right side of the line most of the time. This was way over that line.
I get the frustration because he was called for boarding on wingels just before it for a perfectly clean hit from the side, then wingels fell awkward and I believe the ref let the crowds reaction influence his call. Then after getting that bad call, he sees the same guy throw a late elbow to marners head and he loses it. I get why he was pissed and went after him, but can’t drive a guy from behind when he’s alrwady on his knees. Stupid play.
Kadri fought joe Thornton (6’5 230) and Backes (6’3 225) 3 times while being like 6’0 180. So there’s no reason he couldn’t have just stood up for marner against wingels in a better way.

7.) 14 Apr 2018 18:01:09
And @ Yup there’s a lot worse players in the league than Kadri lol You know, like Milan Lucic who is twice the size and spends his whole game taking liberties on smaller guys and also made a travesty of a 90 year tradition of class and respect by threatening to murder a player in a handshake line. Let’s reign in the ‘complete douchebag’ comments in your glass house lol at least kadris, as bad as it was, was at full speed in the middle of a game. Not 5 min after a game.

8.) 14 Apr 2018 21:03:12
Almost every team has a douche bag. Kadri used to be a lot worse. He has played a little smarter since Babcock took over. I agree with Ebs that Kadri should’ve dropped the gloves instead. I also agree with Jim that Lucic is a douche bag as well and yup knows it. Kadri just happens to be a much better hockey player at a cap friendly price. I really think Martin should be in the line up when you play a beast of a team like the Bruins. I got to hand it to Komarov for not taking a penalty on the biggest douche bag in the league, Marchand. Unfortunately he’s the best player/ douche bag in the league. There needs to be a Marchand, “no kissing” rule made up. Was it Cooke that the league made a rule for waving his arms in front of Brodeur? That kind of crap should be an unsportsmanlike at least. Anyways, it could be a short series if the leafs don’t stay out of the box. They can’t match up physically but they have to try.

9.) 15 Apr 2018 04:46:03
That was avery @leafs17.

And yeah @ebs, it probably is just double. I kinda say its like 2-3 reg season to 1 playoff, so ab 2.5 reg season.

10.) 15 Apr 2018 16:52:49
Thanks topshelf. I forgot about that d bag.

11.) 17 Apr 2018 12:08:26
I still laugh that you said "I'm starting to think kings players are treated differently" the day after Doughty was goven a one game suspension. If they were treated any different he wouldn't have been suspended.

12.) 17 Apr 2018 18:51:21
Yeah, I don’t think the doughty one deserved a suspension to be honest, don’t think it was any worse than sergachevs last night. Doughty went for a clean hit and got his head by accident, sergachev got a guy without the puck, blindside, elbow to the face. I don’t think he went looking for it, but when he saw their paths were crossing and the guy was completely unaware, he definitely followed through and didn’t make any attempt to let up or minimize contact.

13.) 18 Apr 2018 05:49:23
The league suspended him. And a day after this guys complains and thinks the league is treating kings players favorably. 🤔.




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15 Nov 2018 10:49:33
Stone would be a way pricier rental. You need to give a first for sure. Player. + depending on said player.




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12 Nov 2018 17:47:03
Nylander and Zaitsev
Hamilton and Necas.




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10 Oct 2018 18:16:21
Marincin has no value. He’s to good for the AHL. Not good enough for the NHL. You will probably see him in the KHL next year.




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06 Oct 2018 19:05:28
I thought of 4.5 over 4 years because that is where Kadri is at. I also think Kadri is a better player right now than Nylander is. I don’t think any GM thinks Nylander is worth 8 mill or they would offer sheet him. I wonder if this will turn into a Mike Peca situation.




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06 Oct 2018 02:55:11
What if they sing him for a 4 year x 4.5 mill. He would still have a year of team control before UFA. Minnesota would Have a cap savings of 1.5 mill. (Dumba 5years x 6 milll) . Or at that price does Toronto keep him?





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