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25 Oct 2017 16:50:22

But let's say in this scenario, that the Golden Knights are actually in a playoff spot near Winter-Ish. Would this be a suitable trade to retain that position?

VGK - Matt Duchene, Joe Colborne, Chris Butler and Conditional 2019 4th Round Draft Pick (Becomes 3rd if Vegas makes playoffs)

COL - Vadim Shipachov, Shea Theodore, Griffin Reinhardt and 2018 1st Round Draft Pick

MTL - Jon Merrill and Pierre-Edouard Bellemare

VGK - Brandon Davidson and Andrew Shaw


COL - They need to trade Duchene, he isn't happy and simply doesn't want to a part of Colorado anymore. As for the return, Shipachov could get an easy top 6 role with Colorado, as for Theodore and Reinhardt could easily make the weak defence that Colorado has. As for giving up purposes, they could easily say bye to Butler (used for VGK's 7th D) and Colborne who struggled at camp and is in AHL

MTL - They simply need to improve somewhere to get the team off the ground, getting a bonified defender in Merril maybe could help out Montreal, also a Frenchman in Bellemare could easily be beneficial for the bottom 6. For the return Shaw could be expendable due to forward depth, same with Davidson for D depth

VGK - Shipachov is simply too good for AHL, unless McPhee and Gallant come to see that, most suitable option would be that they have to trade him. Duchene would be that one part of the offence that could easily gel with Neal on the first line and bring the team to the playoffs, if that is what they are going for. Colborne could easily make the team as a depth scorer and Butler (for giving up Theodore and Reinhardt) is a perfect 7th or 8th defender. Giving up Reinhardt is a no brainer, he needs a fresh start and if he won't play with Vegas he can get that somewhere else, but with Brannstrom coming up that makes Theodore some-what expendable, and for the return should be enough to give him up. As for giving up Merril and Bellemare. Vegas simply has too much bottom 6 forwards, and defenders as a whole. Sending Davidson to the minors would probably be best to takeover Theodore's spot, but Shaw could make an impact in the bottom 6, or possibly middle 6.

Lines: (Based on Left Wing Lock)

Neal - Duchene - Tuch
Smith - Marchessault - Karlsson
Perron - Eakin - Colborne
Leipsic - Shaw - Carrier / Lindberg

Sbisa - Schmidt
Engelland - McNabb
Miller - Hunt / Garrison



1.) 25 Oct 2017 17:57:36
Theodore and their first will NOT be traded this year. They are building for the future.

2.) 25 Oct 2017 18:07:24
Even if they're in a playoff position, highly doubt they sacrifice young assets (Theodore, 1st) for a highly unlikely Cup run. Would be dumb, tbh.

3.) 25 Oct 2017 21:45:28
I agree with both above. McPhee isn't dumb. Not going to believe this team is for real. They've been impressive in a small sample size however he will not trade prospects and picks. Goes completely against what he has said for the last year.

Also usually a conditional pick gets downgraded if the team receiving the pick reaches their goal with the added players. Not sure why Colorado would have to pay a 3rd instead of a 4th if the players they give Vegas helps them into the playoffs. should be a 3rd becomes a 4th. either way, not going to happen.

4.) 26 Oct 2017 00:23:57
McPhee is dumb or at least he use to be. Clearly learned from his mistake of trading Forsberg for Erat. But I honestly don't see the Vegas making a lot of moves unless it is around moving out a dman.



23 Jun 2017 00:41:13
Based on a Bob McKenzie Tweet
"More likely than not EDM Trades Ederle and MIN trades a D-Man"

NYI - Jordan Ederle, Greg Chase, 22nd and 84th Overall
EDM - Travis Hamonic, Anthony Beauviller, 46th and 77th Overall

MTL - Marco Scandella (15% Retained)
MIN - Zachary Fucale


NYI - New York recently traded their first off to ensure that Vegas takes Grabovski, so if Oilers put that first in their basically moving down to keep Grabovski. Also Eberle/ Duchene talks have been heating up with Snow so we know Snow is interested. And as for Chase, he's basically a place holder for Beauviller in the AHL. He has promise putting up point for game numbers playing first line with McDavid on pre season. Also has potential to be the next Frederick Gaudreau if you will (unexpected breakout star)

EDM - Edmonton finally gets Hamonic who've they have been in trade discussions to get him since last season. Plus Beauviller who Edmonton has as well expressed interest in, which in turn in prospect wise takes over the 1st round pick's value. And now Edmonton has 2 2nd's and has 2 3rd's which they moved up with one of them. They can either acquire a lower first or keep those picks. And Edmonton isn't in dire need of 1st round prospects for that matter

MIN - Trading Scandella was basically set in stone. With Brodin being the only possible option, Spurgeon being a no and Dumba too early in career. And to get someone like Fucale may be a risk but it can be worth it. Fucale who has been starting in the ECHL needs a fresh start, and to take a former second round draft pick off Montreal hands when his value is at an all time low is ideal for Minnesota. With a fresh start with Iowa Wild next season, he can be backing up Dubynk or even challenging for the starter role within the next year or so.

MTL - Montreal just Lot 2 defence off their top 6 plus a possible top 6 for next season in Sergachev, so they are in need for another defenceman. And it seems Bergevin has been busy on the phone so if they acquire Scandella (with cap retained) he can easily slot in where Beaulieu or Emelin was. And for trading Fucale, there is Charlie Lindgren that at the moment has more value, but for Montreal to trade off an ECHL starter shouldn't be a harm for them.


1.) 23 Jun 2017 01:05:24
Lol that Minnesota trade is brutal that's a huge yes from Montreal but never going to happen.

2.) 23 Jun 2017 01:24:50
I feel you put in way too much effort in this and the trade already happened lol that sucks.

3.) 23 Jun 2017 01:52:17
Well, clearly not. At least on the EDM/ NYI one.

4.) 23 Jun 2017 20:41:10
This is probably the dumbest thing I've ever seen posted on this site. Eberle was already traded and that's a huge overpayments and ohh my is that ever a brutal deal for Minnesota wow just wow Fucal is barely good enough to play in the AHL.



13 May 2017 02:38:42
EDM - Ilya Kovalchuk and NJD 2017 2nd around Pick

NJD - Jordan Eberle, Griffin Reinhardt and 2017 1st Round Draft Pick


Edmonton side - Kovalchuk wants to be with a winner, he is 34 years old and wants a Stanley cup before his time is out, after the second round exit Edmonton is due for another breakout season, pitting Kovalchuk on the wing of McDavid or even Draisatl will do wonders for both men involved. Also Its either going to be Nuge or Eberle going to be moved this off season. Based on the playoff performances I say that player would be Eberle. He'll have chem already in New Jersey with Taylor Hall and due for a breakout season. Also to add in Griffin Reinhardt to get value out of him before Vegas claims him in the expansion draft

New Jersey Side - Previously stated ^ Eberle will already have set chemistry with Taylor Hall. He's entering his prime and has a lot of years to flourish into the goal scorer he was meant to become. A better start can work wonders for him. And a player looking to be a bust in Griffin Reinhardt can find a new home in the lacklustre New Jersey defence and could possibly help his career.


1.) 13 May 2017 04:33:02
No from Devils. Not just because of how awful the two Oiler players are but because they need cap space to offer sheet another OILer.

2.) 13 May 2017 09:20:47
19th studio that's a good explanation makes sense
And I think that's a pretty easy yes. Kovalchuk is leaving regardless, so trading him for a guy who just last year was playing unreal, and even with a horrible season to his standards he still topped 50 points and 20 goals. And no I'm not defending his season because it was horrible. This is a easy yes for devils. Borje is just a oiler hater.

3.) 13 May 2017 16:20:05
Also to add, trading Reinhardt will make Vegas select Pouliot which is 4 mil off EDM cap, also with Fayne and Ference's contract out this off season Kovalchuk can get an easy 6-7 mil 2 year contract.

4.) 13 May 2017 17:55:45
Pitlick and Brossoit^.

5.) 13 May 2017 20:37:22
At this stage of his career I wouldn't give more then 5 million to Kovey.



02 Nov 2016 01:53:46
DET - Halak
NYI - Jurco + Cond. '18 3rd (2nd if DET makes it to the ECF / 4th if DET miss playoffs)

DET - Donskoi
SJS - Howard (30% Retained)


Nyqvist - Nielsen - Larkin
Tatar - Zetterberg - Abdelkater
Helm - Sheahan - Donskoi
Athansiou - Glendening - Ott / Miller

DeKeyser - Green
Smith - Ouellet
Ericsson - Marchenko


Insert Donskoi on the 3rd line, backup goaltender swap. Who adds?


1.) 02 Nov 2016 05:51:45
Why would sharks make that trade.

2.) 02 Nov 2016 06:41:37
Sharks one isn't close.

3.) 02 Nov 2016 10:40:30
Donskoi is a fairly good player now, Howard is a bum.



20 Sep 2016 22:46:22
Maybe a quick trade to keep Nickushin in the NHL

DAL - Sobotka
STL - Nickushin.


1.) 21 Sep 2016 00:14:24
I think he's committed for this year.

2.) 21 Sep 2016 00:39:42
Doesn't make sense honestly.

3.) 21 Sep 2016 03:12:39
I do it in a heart beat. I like sobotka but blues are lacling Suze and speed.

4.) 21 Sep 2016 05:40:01
Trade a player for another both in the KHL? This isn't KHL 2017 Be A GM mode.

5.) 21 Sep 2016 06:41:27
Aren't both of them in the KHL league? Well anyways the value is great and pretty even but wouldn't happen cause of the reason being of their departure. Good post though!

6.) 21 Sep 2016 17:49:39
one is going one is trying to get back.

Aparently you can break the nhl contract and go else where but you can't break KHL contract and come here.




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04 Jun 2017 17:00:25
What would it take for any team to get Ovechkin?

Post what you think your favourite team or any team would give up for him in the replies.


1.) 04 Jun 2017 19:29:28
More than it would be worth.

2.) 04 Jun 2017 19:36:44
I wouldn't give much for a 32 year old who just came out of one of his worst season of his career. he's making lie 9 milkion too so it's not like he's cheap or anything. I'D GIVE Chuck and a second if they retain 3 million.

3.) 04 Jun 2017 20:06:51
My favourite team ( the leafs) do not need ovie but i'd offer.

One of JVR or 2018 1st

2 of Bozak, Komarov, Kappnen, Leispic, Dermott, Brown or Bracco

And the 2017 1st.

4.) 04 Jun 2017 21:21:30
So you think JVR, Leipsic, Brown, 1st gets you Ovie? Lol.

5.) 04 Jun 2017 23:00:17
I honestly have no idea what to value OVIE at.

The name may be worth a lot, but his current production sure as heck isn't, based on his previous season at least.

And he's getting paid, what 9.5 million till he's like 36-37? that's a lot of miney to invest into a guy.

Hopefully he'll hit 50 next year. But really, there's no real guess for his value. SOme people may value him as a tad more expensive than what Kessel got (I'm not one of those people, so calm it. ) ; some may value him as a a guy who will recieve two to three good pieces, but not great pieces; some may value him as a guy who gets 2 great pieces. Heck, some may even value him as a guy who will get very little without retention. There is no telling.

As for his last season, I don't really know what to say. From what I saw of him, and I saw six damn good games of him and the caps versus the leafs, I don't value him THAT THAT high. He looked kinda out of place, and the only time I was really scared of him was on the PP. At five on five, sure he could dish out big hits and could lurk around and get some chances, but he never really SCARED me. In fact, players like Backstrom, Oshie, Nate Schmidt, Tom Wilson, Kuzntesov and John Carlson scared me more. Idk. I haven't watched an 82 game season of Ovie, but he seems like a shoot first-think later kind of player. He has the name going for him, but 30 goals out of a constant 50 goal guy? I don't know if anyones going to be paying the top dollar for him.

6.) 05 Jun 2017 01:11:36
Drais- Ovie is great and all but has a huge cap hit that would hurt the leafs and honestly the last thing the leafs need is to trade for a winger. Do I think the Caps accept? No. But that's alright because the leafs don't need ovie. IMO he will retire a Cap or at least wait out his contract as a cap.

+ the best package would be.

JVR (replacement), Brown, Dermote and 17th ovr

Not exactly a bad package.

7.) 04 Jun 2017 23:51:36
As for my leafs, I wholeheartedly would be upset if we get him, because we'd be mortgaging of a lot of the future, but I'd say.

William Nylander + Jeremy Bracco + 2017 2nd.

I can't see him being much much more.

Nylanders going up, Ovies going to stay the same or go down. The name adds the inflation. Don't call me a 'biased leaf fan' because I didn't give up Matthews + RIelly + Nylander for Ovie. Cause would you give up (saying a couple of examples based on writers favorite teams on this site), Drais + Larsson + RNH? Drouin + Palat + Kucherov? Galchenyuk + Sergachev + Patches + 1st (x2)

Of course not.

8.) 04 Jun 2017 23:52:17


stop offering scraps for Ovechkin.

9.) 05 Jun 2017 12:09:14
I would not do nylander straight up for Ovie because of age and cap. ABd tb3 you offer a better package from the oilers perspectiv.

10.) 05 Jun 2017 15:33:14

i wouldn't either but that's tye price.

11.) 06 Jun 2017 15:21:12

Why in the world would I offer a package from the Oilers if there is no chance that they go for Ovechkin? Do you even think before you type?

12.) 06 Jun 2017 22:05:04
Giving up young players for an aging star is what got the leafs in this whole mess to begin with.



22 Jun 2016 14:34:25
Hear me out

ANA - Benoit Pouliot and 51st Overall Draft
EDM - 30th Overall Draft Pick

LAK - Nail Yakupov, 32nd Overall Draft Pick and Conditional 2018 2nd Round Draft Pick
EDM - Rights of Milan Lucic and 51st Overall Draft Pick

BUF - Griffin Reinhardt, Adam Clendening, 4th and 63rd Overall Draft Pick
EDM - Rasmus Ristolainen, Zach Bogosian, 8th and 89th Overall Draft Pick

TOR - Mark Fayne
EDM - Rights of Jared Cowen and 72nd Overall Draft Pick

8th Overall - Jakob Chychurin
30th Overall - Tyler Benson / Carter Hart

Sign Milan Lucic
Sign Jamie McGinn
Sign Colton Scievour (Botched spelling)
Sign Jared Cowen

Lucic - McDavid - Eberle
Hall - Draisatil - Maroon
McGinn - Nugent-Hopkins - Scievour
Hendricks - Letestu - Kassian / Pakarainen

Ristolainen - Klefbom
Sekera - Bogosian
Nurse - Davidson / Cowen



1.) 22 Jun 2016 15:20:20
Well the second and third trades are pretty bad. Why give up so much for someone's rights? And no way Buffalo does that.

2.) 22 Jun 2016 19:11:21
Terrible like Cowan has already been bought out.

3.) 22 Jun 2016 20:06:23
Why would Ducks want Pouliout and his contract? I don't think he'd make the starting roster. Maybe a 4th Liner.




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25 Oct 2017 16:53:23
As an Edmonton fan I would (as NHL 18 put it) feel like gangbusters for accepting this trade. As good as Talbot maybe be, he's NO WHERE near Price, Nuge and Shaw has probably same value trade wise just different players, as for the low first and mid 3rd.

A lot of improving here, not only for this trade offer but for the Habs in general ;)




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26 Jun 2017 20:14:36
Phaneuf would have to be at least 25% retained for Edmonton to accept.




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26 Jun 2017 03:06:57
Alikhan define old.




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22 Jun 2017 16:52:27
Or Jersey can also move down, acquire another asset and draft Liljegran. Regardless I like the trade.





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