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24 Sep 2017 23:54:28
Will never happen but let's get some thoughts.

1st off

To ottawa : duchesne

To colorado : Ceci, white, perron, and a 2019 conditional 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Colorado builds for the future while ottawa goes all in now by going for one more trade.

To ottawa : doughty

To Los Angeles : turris, Wideman, paul, and a 1st round pick in 2018

Ottawa uses turris, the pick, and big prospect nick Paul to upgrade Wideman and replace ceci. Doughty gets to go to a cup contender while the kings get a decent top 4 replacement in wideman, a solid 1st or 2nd line center in turris, a big prospect in Paul and a 1st round pick.

Ottawa goes for a big cup run

Hoffman duchesne Ryan
Smith brassard stone
Brown pageau dzingle
Rienhart Thompson burrows
Wingles chlapic

Chabot karlsson
Phaneuf doughty
Claeson harbour
Borvievski

Anderson
Condon

Turris contract almost up anyway why not upgrade him long term with duchesne and make the rush that much easier by adding one of karlsson's toughest rivals a team mate all while keeping the biggest defence prospect as well in Chabot. Think of what Chabot could learn from doughty and karlsson. If doughty deal falls through go the other defence route and try for pietrangelo but change the 1st to a 2nd.

Senskill238

1.) 25 Sep 2017 04:57:22
Lol wow this post is something else.
Doughty trade is cringe worthy! That Petro backup plan offer is just laughable.
The "duchesne" (LMAO at spelling, sorry) trade isn't even that bad (needs better quality tho imo), I don't what you drank or took in the time between you finishing your 1st trade and starting your 2nd but I want in.


2.) 25 Sep 2017 05:20:15
You're not getting a prime aged Norris D man with 2 years left on his deal without your top 2 prospects plus plus in it. Nick Paul isn't on anyone's radar as a top prospect, he's a decent project, the first isn't going to be a good one, and turris as a first or second center? Where did Anze kopitar and Jeff carter go? Lol.


3.) 25 Sep 2017 11:00:55
Both trades are just horrid.


 

 

09 Sep 2017 15:54:23
To ottawa : Tavares

To nyi : white, dzingle, a 1st in 2018, and a 3rd in 2019

Isles get a top 6/ 9 speedy forward who's young enough to get better yet, a couple high picks in up coming drafts, and an elite level prospect to boot for a superstar who by the looks of it, doesn't intend to re-sign anyway.

Justification

Last 2 kessel trades, spezza trade, hall trade, etc. This is a bigger return than all of those for a guy who remains unsigned. Nyi I gets valuable assets instead of losing him for nothing while ottawa lands that superstar center to play with E. K. and the boys.

Senskill238

1.) 09 Sep 2017 16:13:11
Other teams will have better to offer.


2.) 09 Sep 2017 17:35:23
Man come on no from isles 🙄 Bruh.


3.) 09 Sep 2017 20:55:42
How bout Byron + Hudon + 3rd for Karlson.


4.) 09 Sep 2017 21:44:02
Who would be coming off Ottawa's books to afford this player? Or is this strictly a trade to acquire a rental and that's all? Either way, not believable for either team.


5.) 10 Sep 2017 14:02:09
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha is this a joke do you really think those two from ottawa are nhlers go back to watching figure skating.


6.) 19 Sep 2017 04:56:43
Who's coming off the books for ottawa? Did you really just ask that lol? Neil methot stalberg kelly etc free up more than enough space on their own let alone the space they still have from last season and the fact MacArthur will be back on ir they could litterally afford Tavares and duchesne if they really wanted to.

And dzingle is already a top 6 forward on most teams while white is an elite prospect with top 6 maybe even top 3 potential plus 2 picks including a 1st, I'd say that's pretty generous for a guy who will most likely let his contract run out and test free agency before he resigns with the islanders in which case they will get nothing for him anyway lol. Maybe ottawa throws in Ceci under the condition that Tavares signs long term (4 or more years) .


 

 

25 Jul 2017 04:13:36
To ottawa : Jack eichel

To buffalo : ryan dzingle, logan brown, nick paul, a 1st in 2018, and a 3rd in 2019

Ottawa gets an inexpensive counter to Toronto's Austin Matthews and top end forward assuming he can stay healthy.

Buffalo gets a couple draft pick in case the players don't work out, plus 1 of the fastest players in the league who can slip into there top 6 now in dzingle, a top prospect with top 6 potential (again assuming he stays healthy) in Logan Brown, and a big body power forward prospect who could play a shut down role on their bottom 6 in nick Paul.

Eichel and the buffalo coach don't see eye to eye anyway so it makes sense for both sides.


Ottawa new lines (not necessarily in this order)

MacArthur turris Ryan
Hoffman brassard stone
Burrows pageau eichel
Smith white pyatt

Claisson Karlsson
Phaneuf Chabot
Oduya Ceci

Scratches

Harpur borvievski wingles.

Senskill238

1.) 25 Jul 2017 05:12:36
Is this a joke?


2.) 25 Jul 2017 05:24:31
Really? Then you stick a elite centerman on the third line. only way buffalo trades Eichel is if Karlson is coming back, so it's not even slightly realistic.


3.) 25 Jul 2017 06:26:56
I would like to apologize on behalf of all sens fans for this gentleman's stupidness.


4.) 25 Jul 2017 11:22:57
Chabot would be a good starting point.


5.) 25 Jul 2017 13:03:34
So many things wrong with this there is no good place to start.


6.) 25 Jul 2017 13:57:28
1) in the same division. Why would Buffalo give otttawa 'an answer to Austin Matthews'. They need one too!
2) not nearly enough coming back to trade 20 yr old #1 centre
3) eichel on the third line?!
4) inexpensive? For another season, then he's going to be asking for his due, which will make him the highest paid sen
5) Sabres fired the coach because they apparently didn't get along, new coach hasn't started. They didn't just fire bylsma and pay him millions to leave, to give away eichel.


7.) 25 Jul 2017 13:58:37
And hoff, we don't blame you. We all feel embarrassed by our own fans from time to time.


8.) 25 Jul 2017 15:25:58
Completely understand Hoff.

Right when I thought I've seen it all, this gets posted.
Could be the worst proposal in history of bad proposals.


9.) 25 Jul 2017 16:02:55
Hoff. i'm a Habs fan. so. well you read some of the posts from us Habs fans. lol. no need to apologize for fellow fans. Lol. that's all i'd do., and i'm sure some would have ti for me as well, cause i'm far from perfect myself.


10.) 25 Jul 2017 17:34:06
Hahaha 👍.


11.) 25 Jul 2017 20:54:36
Your kidding right? 2 young blue chip prospects both top 6 potential 1 already in top 6 calibre today plus a big body role player and a 1st and 3rd pick

for a relatively unproven top 6 foward, ill be it crazy potential, and injury prone since day 1 who has shown attitude issues towards coaches

Is somehow not enough to get him? Rofl

Sorry guys 1 sakic in the league is enough this is the real world not nhl video games where you ask the world for a star player lol

And mertle. eichel wouldn't be enough for karlsson's jock strap bud dream on.


12.) 25 Jul 2017 21:08:12
I'm just curious though. I like to think I follow the league pretty closely and would like to know if I'm missing something here?

But what exactly has eichel done so far to merit more than 2 blue chip prospects and a 1st round pick let alone adding a 3rd and a decent big body prospect on top of all that besides getting benched a number of times, arguing with the coach a number of times, and being injured a number of times?

Just wandering where the trade logic from some of the people on here comes from? It's crazy to think how some players are so overvalued to some people while other players who have earned more respect than what they're shown get so under valued.

Sorry to tell you folks but karlsson and Chabot are not the only talented players or prospects on the sens rosters. And that's just 1 team I'm talking about here.


13.) 25 Jul 2017 23:54:04
I agree that Eichel doesn't have the same value as Karlson at this point in time. Eichel had 57 points in 62 games last season. Draisatl barley beat him in ppg standings having played a good church of the season on McDavids wing (not a knock on draisatl cause he's awesome) my point is that Eichel had a good year despite starting late due to injury and still put up good numbers on s less than mediocre hockey team. Dzingel is 25 years old and just cracking sens lineup, nick Paul is 22 years old and doesn't look like he'll make the team this year or next. The only one that has decent value is brown and mid to late first. I think the only way to make the sabers think about it would be to start with chabot and white. That's the price you pay for s 20 year old potential franchise player.


14.) 26 Jul 2017 00:20:38
25 year old Dzingel with 42 career points is a blue chip prospect and 21 year old Eichel with 113 points has proven that much? I don't know maybe I misread that but wow something's gotten be wrong there.


15.) 26 Jul 2017 00:39:31
1. Dzingel isn't a prospect dude, he's 24. Safe to say he's reached his peak as a top 9 FWD.

2. Logan Brown is well on his way to being a bust, players drafted after him are developing and excelling in their leagues i. e: Micheal Mcloed drafted right after Brown.

3. Jack Eichel had a 0.93 P/ GPm which would have been the highest on the Sens. Yes. even higher than Karlssons.

Jack Eichel is a franchise player. you don't get them for scraps my dude.


16.) 26 Jul 2017 03:09:02
Senskills. 2 'blue chip prospects' lol a 4th rounder from 4 drafts ago who is putting up .50 pts per game in the AHL is a blue chip prospect? And you say we are overvaluing eichel?!?!
Eichel missed 21 games this year. As a 19/ 20 year old he had a better points per game than ovechkin, tarasenko, panarin, seguin, Tavares, gaudreau, Matthews etc etc while having a lot less to work with in terms of linemates than many of those guys. Dzingle is not a bonifide top 6 player on most NHL teams, nick Paul is not a blue chip prospect, I'll let you call Logan brown a blue chipper because where he was drafted only a year ago, and a first and third from a playoff team is a 15-31st and a 77th-93rd pick. Get real.


17.) 26 Jul 2017 03:12:13
Unless you're calling 24 year old dzingle the blue chip prospect, and n that case, nazem kadri is a leafs blue chip prospect too.


18.) 26 Jul 2017 13:37:10
Gourde, Howden, Erne, 1st 2018, 3rd 2019 for Karlsson. Karlsson can play 3rd pair behind Stralman and Girardi. Sound good?


19.) 26 Jul 2017 15:45:47
If you don't know why Eichel has just as much maybe more value to their team than guys like Driasitl, Ekblad, Murray, even Laine and Mathews, then there's no point in even trying to explain to you.


20.) 26 Jul 2017 17:02:52
Karlsson for Eichel.


21.) 26 Jul 2017 17:10:31
You would need chabot and white included to even get buffalo to answer the phone and your still gunna add to that for eichel.


22.) 26 Jul 2017 17:18:08
Eichel lead the NHL in shots per game by a land slide. He will do a lot better next season.


23.) 30 Jul 2017 19:49:56
I am using single as 1 of the blue chippers with brown considering his numbers were up there with Hoffman and stone and most of that was based on his speed alone. He's 24 years old and can still improve his puck control and become deadly.


Eichel has yet to play a full season as he's injured half the time and in the time he has been there he's been benched a couple of times and shown frustration between him and the coach. These things do factor in to trade value in real life whether fans like it or not.

I'm not by any means saying he's not extremely talented because he is but you have to look at the facts of his current situation.


24.) 30 Jul 2017 19:53:54
And to the guy who said we'd have to add white and Chabot you're insane bro. If one of those guy were to be added brown and a 1st or dzingle and a 1st would have to be taken out but no way would they have to add both.


25.) 23 Aug 2017 23:27:35
I agree with mike13, the conversation would have to start with Chabot and white and sens would still add.


 

 

18 Jul 2017 22:09:52
To N. Y. I. - Nugent Hopkins, and a 1st in 2018

To Edmonton - Tavares, a 3rd in 2018



Draisaitl mcdavid kassian
Lucic tavares strome.

Senskill238

1.) 18 Jul 2017 22:58:35
Tavares is top 10 in the league. I like RNH and I think he'll have his best season yet but he along with a late/ mid first isn't getting Tavares.


2.) 19 Jul 2017 00:09:24
Hahahahahahahahahahaha oh my god that's bad for islanders hahahahahahahaha wtf are you thinking. I like Nuge but he's no where near the caliber player Tavares is JT is one of the best players in the league.


3.) 19 Jul 2017 00:41:41
Add Nurse +.


4.) 19 Jul 2017 01:02:19
Gonna have to add a lot more than that. I don't see why Oilers would pursue another top tier centerman. they have 2 of the best in the game.


5.) 19 Jul 2017 04:05:41
Maybe change your name to senseless.


6.) 19 Jul 2017 05:19:41
Start with Leon, then add.


7.) 19 Jul 2017 07:26:35
Van city you are definitely wrong with that one bud.


8.) 19 Jul 2017 14:07:36
I don't know if van city is that far off. Draisatl looks like he's going to be great but he has done it for one season and a good playoff run. Anyone who has seen the nhl/ international game for the last 8 years (excepts senskill apparently) knows how good Tavares is. He's a guaranteed star, draisatl is very close to a sure thing. Not saying oilers should do it, but value wise, you are going to be paying them both huge dollars and one has proven for 6 times as long what he is. And there is the age gap but it's not like one is 21 and the other is 32. An 8 year extension on Tavares would still have him from 27-35.


9.) 19 Jul 2017 14:15:22
Eberle got the Oil Strome
Hall got a defensive defenseman
Nuge would get you something in the middle. Maybe.


10.) 19 Jul 2017 14:16:58
Change RNH with Drai it's closer imo.


11.) 19 Jul 2017 14:17:45
@Vancity: Drai+? No. I agree that the OP is absurd but Drai is making a name for himself and is younger. Straight up is more reasonable but I'd rather Edm keeps Drai.

As for the proposal, Klefbom or Larsson would need to be added by Edm, and possibly a prospect like Benson. In other words, FAR too much to make Isles bite. Would ruin what Edm has going. Trade makes no sense for Edm.


12.) 19 Jul 2017 14:18:38
Lol. Vancity you are actually bang on. I'd hate to see the Oil get him though.


13.) 19 Jul 2017 17:10:15
Im saying he's wrong because Oilers are not trading Drat for Tavares. Not going to happen.


14.) 19 Jul 2017 17:34:46
I don't think they would/ should either. But draisatl for Tavares is a lot closer than the original and also makes more sense. If oilers did want Tavares, islanders would want a great piece+ (draisatl) or 3-4 good pieces (RNH, Benson, caguilla and a pick )


15.) 20 Jul 2017 13:55:56
Not bad if Tavares comes out and says "I'm testing the FA market and I will not resign with any team in the NHL" and he also pulls a Drouin and refuses to play until he's traded but that won't happen so no from Isle.


16.) 20 Jul 2017 13:57:22
Even the first one would be very risky for Snoe. Drai had one very good playoff series where he shot over 30%. He was invisible vs the Sharks. He may turn out to be good, very good or even exceptional. Tavares is exceptional.


17.) 20 Jul 2017 15:36:55
Tavares is a top player in the league and he's bonified himself as that, islanders better sign him quickly here because a player of his caliber deserves to play on a good team, somethin Islanders are not right now.


18.) 20 Jul 2017 18:48:16
I'd love to see Tavares traded to Tampa with Stamkos. There's a deal to be done there. Haha.


19.) 20 Jul 2017 19:28:02
I was going to complain but man that 3rd round pick really balanced things out lmao.


20.) 21 Jul 2017 04:32:26
I'm not a oilers fan but even I know that a 1st and nuge can draw a great return.

Yes Tavares is worth a little bit more under normal cercumstanses however it's no secret he wants out of nyi. Because of this he will lose the extra value. Does nyi prefer to get something like nuge and a 1st for him or risk him walking to free agency and getting nothing back?

At least nuge is top 6 material with greater potential and a 1st is a great chance at a player who will play in nhl at some point.


21.) 21 Jul 2017 14:07:06
Senskill. In a normal circumstance tavares is worth 'a little bit more' than RNH and a later first? Lol yeah, just a little more like another first and a top prpspect or young NHLer. And you know for a fact that Tavares wants to leave? I don't know that he doesn't, wouldn't be shocked if he does, but he has given less indication that he wants out of New York than stamkos did about leaving Tampa (liking tweets and a few slips of the tongue to the media) and yet he's a lightning still for the next 7 years. You don't know what he's going to do and you have no way of knowing he is forcing Garth snows hand or thatvthe isles feel the pressure.


22.) 21 Jul 2017 15:00:34
I'm not really responding to the trade here, but where the hell did I miss Kassian being the top-line RW? Tavares to the Oilers doesn't happen in any realm, so there's not much sense talking about it.


 

 

16 Jul 2017 01:30:03
To ottawa : Giroux, and Voracek

To Philadelphia : Phaneuf, chlapic, brassard, and a 2nd

Philly gets a top prospect a pick a much needed top 6 defensive forward who can score and a big body heavy hitting dman who has revived his career since leaving Toronto and won't be forced to play more minutes than he can handle with their d core.

Ottawa finds a home for Phaneuf and lands 2 guys who still have time to turn their careers back around and make a rebound with a fresh start where they won't have the same pressure to preform around them they did in Philly. In ottawa the supporting cast they'll have can help divvy up the offence.

Big contract and somewhat big contract for 2 big contracts.

Thoughts?

Senskill238

1.) 16 Jul 2017 04:35:16
Bro. Cmon.


2.) 16 Jul 2017 05:03:19
Karlsson and turris for Plekanec?


3.) 16 Jul 2017 15:39:36
Laughable for Philly.


4.) 17 Jul 2017 21:43:06
HAHAHAH!
This can't be a legit proposal, can it? The top 2 Philly players for overpaid Phaneuf and scraps? Giroux AND Voracek would start with Chabot, plain and simple.


5.) 18 Jul 2017 22:03:10
Giroux and voracek are on the decline if last season is any indication I know this not just from what I saw but because I had both in my hockey pool which they both did not live up in any way to expectations and Phaneuf is getting his stride back while brassard is as consistent as he's ever been. And chlapic is one of the top 5 prospects in ottawa system. Plus a 2nd round pick to boot. Not to mention the money saved by Philly on those 2 big contracts moving out.


 

 

 

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21 Feb 2017 21:24:44
Just so everybody knows

Duchesne is a 2nd line center for 90% of his Carreer

Landeskog has seen his production value decrease every year and is in his worst year yet

Anyone who thinks either will get full asking price without having giving the other at a bargain has rocks in their head. It ain't happening and I'd bet on that fact in a heart beat. Either price comes down significantly or they don't move period. Any gamers up for a bet.

Senskill238

1.) 21 Feb 2017 22:40:10
Just so you know

Duchene made team Canada. Accident?
Sakic has repeatedly stated what he wants and may move a little but will not settle for a lot less.
Landeskog is still young and has proven he has potential to play first line and Sakic and other GMs know that.
Many teams are showing interest and Colorado isn't in a hurry so they have the upper hand.
They won't move significantly.


2.) 21 Feb 2017 22:42:08
Thanks tips.


 

 

15 Feb 2017 23:01:07
Will never happen but let's here the thoughts on this 3 way idea.

To ottawa:
McDavid, nurse, fayne
2nd rounder

To edmonton:
Shattenkirk
Turris, ceci, Hoffman, 1st rounder, white

To St. Louis:
Lazar
Nugent Hopkins

Ceci > nurse at this point in time

Fayne to even out salaries

McDavid fetches prove top center Turris, proven goal scorer Hoffman (together they come with chemistry), top end prospect white, and a 1st round pick

Rnh = shattenkirk = instant upgrade to edm blue line

Lazar = 1st/ 2nd (gives him fresh start with a coach who might actually use him)

St. Louis = better shape for Vegas draft

Edmonton = addition by subtraction losing mcdavid Rnh and nurse they upgrade their blue line and prospect pool drastically and get a proven goal scorer and a center he has already got chemistry with.

Ottawa = save some cap space and give up a few big pieces but add the best player in the game today and a big young stay home dman who can keep Phaneuf out of trouble.
Cue the Mcarlsson show. Karlsson and mcdavid together would be pure magic

All teams come out with a smile in my view.

Senskill238

1.) 16 Feb 2017 00:55:11
St Louis gets absolutely hosed.


2.) 16 Feb 2017 00:55:51
Umm. anyone who trades McDavid, probably isn't smiling.
The first line on your post was the only one believable.


3.) 16 feb 2017 01:05:40
are you joking? bahaha that has to be the funniest post i have seen. like on this site. ever. and we have had really bad trades before.

you really think edmonton trades away rnh nurse and mcdavid for that hahaha


thanks for the laugh. i needed it today lol.

by the way i'm not even an oiler fan. let's see what the oiler fans have to say.

and if you really want mcd, you are starting with ek and adding. no ifs, ands or buts.


 

 

15 Feb 2017 22:38:28
OK before any negative comments I know this one will never happen but still want to know what people's thoughts are on if it's good? 3 way trade ott-stl-edm

To ottawa:
1st or 2nd rounder

To St. Louis:
Lazar



To ottawa:
McDavid, nurse, fayne

To edmonton:
Turris, Hoffman, white, ceci, 1st rounder



To St. Louis:
Nugent Hopkins

To edmonton:
Shattenkirk


St. Louis

Tarresenko nuge Schwartz
Insert Lazar on 3rd line rest is same minus shattsy


Edmonton

Hoffman Turris kassian
Lucic draisaitl eberle
Rest of forwards are same

Shattenkirk Larsen
Ceci Reinhart
rest of defence is same

Plus white can developed and a 1st as well


Ottawa

Dzingle mcdavid stone
Smith brassard Ryan
Rest is same minus Lazar plus fayne

Karlsson methot
Nurse pheuneuf
Rest is same


Edmonton gets an upgrade on nurse (at this point in time ceci more nhl proven) plus a star defenseman in shattsy for the blue line a basically lose nuge for the students dman but in the trade with mcdavid they lose the best player in the game but gain a proven top center and a goal.

Senskill238

1.) 16 feb 2017 01:06:54
stop. you don't even know that mark fayne is a dman. you don't even know that mcdavid is literally the second best player (if not best) in the league righr now by a mile. come on. i'm sorry i'm being rude, but please. this is bad.


2.) 16 Feb 2017 03:56:11
Hop kings is too much for Shattys rectal. Mtl could give you more for him if you ever want to get rid of the nuge. How does Gally, Julsen and a second rouner sounds.


 

 

 

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25 Sep 2017 03:08:29
Facelift39 what world are you living in? Lol

JVR is good but definitely not top 8 wingers in the league let alone the world lmfao. Maybe top 40 or 50 but definitely not top 8.

Ovechkin, kessel, mariner, stone, Hoffman, kucherov, Gaudreau, huberdeau, voracek, palat, landeskog, benn, radulov, Schwartz, taresenko, paternak, laine, oshie, and marchand all out rank jvr, and that's just off the top of my head lol.

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24 Sep 2017 00:31:16
Lindss please don't post again. Chabot is going nowhere.

Duchesne is a class 3 forward under the likes of mcdavid and Crosby, and taresenko and toews. He will not get what sakic thinks he can get for him though it will take more than what is here.

I'm thinking Ceci, chlapic, and a first rounder will get it done. Get on that Dorian.

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19 Sep 2017 04:56:43
Who's coming off the books for ottawa? Did you really just ask that lol? Neil methot stalberg kelly etc free up more than enough space on their own let alone the space they still have from last season and the fact MacArthur will be back on ir they could litterally afford Tavares and duchesne if they really wanted to.

And dzingle is already a top 6 forward on most teams while white is an elite prospect with top 6 maybe even top 3 potential plus 2 picks including a 1st, I'd say that's pretty generous for a guy who will most likely let his contract run out and test free agency before he resigns with the islanders in which case they will get nothing for him anyway lol. Maybe ottawa throws in Ceci under the condition that Tavares signs long term (4 or more years) .

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19 Sep 2017 04:41:36
No great John he actually means no from ottawa in a big way. 2 elite prospects and a 1st round pick is far too much for duchesne let alone 1 of those prospects being Chabot lol. Face it the guy is not mcdavid or Crosby.

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06 Sep 2017 04:57:53
Ceci might not be the best bit he is definitely better and worth more than tanev. Plus his potential is still there too at a young age. Only way he moves is if he's in a package for a star player, like say duchesne or Tavares. You can say that will never happen all you want but fact is, the real nhl is not like xbox1 or ps4, unreal trades happen all the time whether fans like it or not. Tavares not signing before this coming trade deadline will drop his value and duchesne value has been dropping by the day thanks to insane asking price and his desire to play elsewhere. I'd be shocked if either get full value in return.

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