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02 Nov 2015 04:08:58
Just watched Vasilevskiy win against the Canes and I really feel like it's his time to take over the net for Tampa. Bish has to go next offseason, I really can think of 4 possible destinations. Calgary, Edmonton, St. Louis, Winnipeg. Prob not St. Louis because of cap reasons and Allen is doing well. In Winniepg they have that Helleybuck kid coming up, so I couldn't see Bish going to the peg. The thing is with Edmonton and Calgary is I can't think of a good enough package going back to Tampa. Bennett or Draisaitl I think are too much. Idk, help me out because I'm trying to piece it together. Leave your ideas below.

Reminator

1.) 02 Nov 2015 04:22:01
Bishop for Talbot and 2017 1st and a 2016 2nd.


2.) 02 Nov 2015 04:37:32
Edmonton doesn't need bishop. Talbot is playing well.


3.) 02 Nov 2015 05:47:33
I mean yes and no talbot is doing ok but he can barely hug a post also he let's a lot of week ones in. Also it doesn't help when our defence leaves him out to dry, If the oilers were to trade for Bishop I would think do something like

Bishop

FOR
Poliout talbot and two second round picks and maybe a 3rd.


4.) 02 Nov 2015 06:09:09
He can barely hug a post? Most NHL goalies have let in a softy like that. I agree he has let in a few save able goals but if we had any sort of defense he'd be winning us games.


5.) 02 Nov 2015 18:31:50
Can't go to St. Louis russian tank wouldn't approve.


6.) 02 Nov 2015 19:34:42
Bennett or Draisaitl would be appropriate, bonafide #1 goalies that can carry teams to the Cup Final do not grow on trees. Give Vasya more time and wait another year.


7.) 02 Nov 2015 20:07:15
No Bennet or Draisaitl would be traded for Vasya.


8.) 02 Nov 2015 22:51:14
Oiler would you trade drastIL nurse and a 3rd for bishop.


9.) 02 Nov 2015 23:52:34
STL would trade Tarasenko, Schwartz and a 2nd for Bishop.
There, now I sound just as dumb as Russian tank. Maybe make it Tarasenko, Schwartz and Parayko for Bishop, Carle and a 2nd. Fair deal.


10.) 03 Nov 2015 00:32:36
@Drais
What about a Bish to Winnipeg for Ehlers? Idk that could be interesting. Drouin-Stamkos-Ehlers would be scary good.


11.) 03 Nov 2015 00:51:18
@yep can't do that Parayko is untouchable in the eyes of russian tank. He is the second coming of Pronger.


12.) 03 Nov 2015 01:30:35
EDM: Paryko (However you spell it)
STL: McDavid, Draisaitl, Hall and Nurse

Russian Tank- "Fair trade".


13.) 03 Nov 2015 15:59:20
When i have i ever posted sucha ridicules trade. Colton is worth twice that LOL But hey in all seriousnes if he wasnt just a chump with a lucky start, then why all the buzz about him. The blues are just fine the way they are. The GM and Coach have done a fine job of putting together a winner year in and year out. Now just need to make past first round then I will be happy. I don't have to come on this board to post ridicules trades and cut donw on other people because my team sucks balls good luck this year guys.


14.) 03 Nov 2015 16:34:31
all the time Russia Tank. Your valuations are as hilarious as Montrealfinest/Pinball/Boris.


15.) 03 Nov 2015 17:39:07
Instead you come on this board overvaluing your players. And you won't get past the 1st round cause you have mediocre goaltending compared to other teams in the West.


16.) 03 Nov 2015 22:51:24
if we have mediocre goaltending then why have we let up the least amout of goals against (with the exception of the rangers)

Jake Allen
has .929sv% with 1.89 GAA

I think he is just fine as long as the blues keep playing d in front of him. But what do i know. I am just a blues homer who doesn't like trades involving good blues youth for crappy players from crappy teams. Bishop not crappy but he played forone of the highest scoring offenses and he still couldn't bring a cup home.


 

 

29 Oct 2015 03:07:49
I have an idea for a Bishop to St. Louis trade, (next offseason, also I know it may not be a perfect fit for the blues but they could use a number 1 goalie and have the assets) .

To Blues
G, Ben Bishop

To Bolts
D, Colton Parayko
F, Ty Rattie
2016 3rd

I don't care if it's not a fit, just wanna know value wise if it's off.

Reminator

1.) 29 Oct 2015 14:42:37
Salary Cap.


2.) 29 Oct 2015 17:09:02
Are you serious. There is a good chance that Colton Parayko will be in contention for the calder trophy. They are calling him the second comming of pronger with a slap shot of Al McInnis. Milbury called him a faster younger Shea weber. And you think we will trade this first year rookie calder candidate with our best AHL Call up and a 3rd for Ben Bishop. Funniest thing i have heard all week. that's freaking hilarious. Colton Parayko for the blues ia as untouchable as Conor Mcdavid for the Oilers. Army just put you on Call block LOL.


3.) 29 Oct 2015 18:44:14
Uhh, a little bit of overstating on Parayko, don't you think? We're 10 games into the season and already he is the 2nd coming of Pronger/Weber? Pull the reigns a little, buddy. He's playing well and could be a dark horse Calder candidate if he continues like this all season but to automatically put him in the same ranks as McDavid at this point is absurd.

All that being said, blues say no. They have Jake Allen and other strong goaltending prospects developing.


4.) 29 Oct 2015 18:49:43
@russian tank
Sheesh. Fair enough, didn't think Parayko was in the same class as McDavid.


5.) 29 Oct 2015 18:58:22
@Chirp
Ya I see what your saying. Just wondering if the trade values were close. But apparently Parayko is the next best defencemen according to Russian tank.


6.) 29 Oct 2015 20:59:32
according to russian tank, every st. louis player and prospect is > than any other team's players and prospects. the montrealfinest/pinball of st. louis if you will.


7.) 29 Oct 2015 21:44:30
@Shankar 😂😂😂.


8.) 29 Oct 2015 23:02:49
I really like that package from St. Louis as Parakyo looks amazing so far (to easy to compare him to weber and pronger @russiantank lol) however Bishop is a legit #1 goalie and I think he could get more. Blues don't really need a goalie unless they move Allen or Elliott. They've been solid so far.


9.) 29 Oct 2015 23:55:17
Watch him play. He is amazing. I didn't say he was a younger she's webber Milburn on nbcsports. If this kid was on your team you would be excited too. Some players just stick out and he is already getting 20 mins a night. He actually had no problem shutting down McDavid twice fast to for s big boy just watch him play #55.


10.) 29 Oct 2015 23:57:19
ShankAR I don't think all my players are better than others but when people offer two cappy people from a crapp team for ahatty tarasenko or one of our great young kids I'm going to call u out on it.


11.) 30 Oct 2015 04:57:09
Yeah first game was against the blues and I'd never heard of the kid before in my life and he stuck out. I hope he can keep it up but he most likely won't be in Calder contention and he couldn't even touch McDavid.


12.) 30 Oct 2015 04:57:15
Dude, I'm a fan of the Blues and Parayko too, but I do my best to be unbiased and look at things from a broader point of view. And you're really not helping yourself using a quote from Mike Milbury. He is a moron. All he cares about is that a player is big and will hit. He couldn't judge skill if he had an instruction manual. Just look at his reign in NY. Dude shouldn't be commenting on hockey in this new area.

But never mind that. Parayko is a strong player so far. Hopefully it keeps up. D is a tough position to play, especially when the player is young, but you and I (well, I at least) know how tough it is for a dman to sustain a strong start a full season and keep in the running for the Calder. So far so good but we are barely into the season. I'm not even singing McDavid (nor Yak's) praises because it's waaay too early for anything.


13.) 30 Oct 2015 11:04:05
Draw comparisons to last years Calder winner. So far so good for Parayko, but like it has been stated the season is still young. And you do overvalue your players and think they walk on water. Goaltending has caused you to lose every single time you make it to the playoffs, adding a legit #1 goalie who enjoys the pressure and plays lights out is something the Blues should welcome. Just my opinion.


14.) 30 Oct 2015 17:09:13
who do you consider a #1 goalie. Blues had Halak, Elliot, Miller, Allen. Unless your talking about Price, Quick and maybee a few others. there are not thatmany goalies who are leaps and bounds better than what we have. Certainly not worth trading shattenkirk for and adding a lot of salary. Unless the goalie coming back is Price or Quick i don't want none.

If you think i'm full of it please by all means show me post your stats of goalies compare them to Elliot allen. The problem is the team not just goaltending. Hell the hawks don't rely on crawford to win they relay on Kane toews keith seabrook. The only difference bettween them and us is they always find a way o win no matter what. Blues decimated the wild when they played their game it just so happened that they only played 1 game up to their full potential. Layed a fat egg on the rest of the games.


15.) 30 Oct 2015 17:16:11
oilers_11

YOu should watch the games between the blues. McDavid couldn't get by Colt55 and on top of that Colt stripped him of thepuck several times. Those are facts my friend so if he stops Conor and takes the puck from him does not not in fact me he can touch Connor. Just saying.


16.) 30 Oct 2015 17:39:25
Like i said before this kid is good. TSN just wrote a piece on him. But what do i know about hockey or talent.


17.) 30 Oct 2015 18:33:25
You're a less funny Blues version of MontrealFinest.
Im already bored by you. You're as bad as deluded leafs fans.


18.) 30 Oct 2015 20:07:16
Chirp_

Please enlighten me. I have never made outrageous claims. Only time will tell. So far Colt55 has shut down mcdavid to no shots or points against blues, he has out pointed Eichel and has better +/-

here are the facts
conor M
5G 7A 12P -1 22sog 18.23 TOI 11games played

J eichel
3G 0A 3P -7 35sog 19:16 TOI 10 games played

Colton Parayko
4G 3A 7P +8 30sog 19:47 TOI 10 games played

iS HE BETTER THAN MCDAVID NO BUT IF HE KEEPS IT UP HE WILL BE FIGHTING FOR THR CALDER.


19.) 31 Oct 2015 00:27:00
So the Calder is based on how you do against the 1st and 2nd overall picks? LOLOL!

You need to calm the F down, buddy. It's still October, for crying out loud, and you're already claiming him as the Calder winner and you seemed to hint at a Norris nom too? !
Do you even know the likelihood of a Dman winning the Calder? He has to be OUTSTANDING. Ekblad won last year by putting up 40+ points, breaking a franchise record (or 2), and running the 1st line like he'd been doing it for years. Before him? Eric Johnson. 2003 draft. Bit of a discrepancy, no? Is it because no good Dmen came out of the drafts over those years? Uh, no. It's because Dmen RARELY win the Calder.

He's been great, I'm not denying that. Hell, as I stated, I'm even a fan! He's from St Albert, Alberta, which is right next to Edmonton, Alberta. And at the start of the year, he was playing next to Joel Edmunson. Edmunson. Edmonton. Get the joke? I found that kinda funny. But what isn't funny (anymore) is your boner for this player and you trying to one-up me with pick-and-choose stats like I don't have a clue. I follow hockey like I'm involved in it, okay? I very likely (edit: DO) have a better idea about what's going on in the league than you do. You follow the Blues? Great. I follow damn near every team in the league. It's been a while since I really went off on someone so thank you for being a moron so I could vent a little bit but you need to clam up now. At this point, Parayko is GOOD. He's GOOD. Is he great? Hell no. Has he locked up the Calder? HELL NO. Pump the brakes, you ideologic biased twit.


20.) 31 Oct 2015 00:38:27
"Blues had Halak, Elliot, Miller, Allen. Unless your talking about Price, Quick and maybee a few others. there are not thatmany goalies who are leaps and bounds better than what we have. "

there are many that ARE leaps and bounds better, you have to be joking. miller os the only one there who has been elite, but he was far from that during his time in st louis.

as for goalies that are better, here is the list: andersen, rask, varlamov, bobrovsky (aside from his weird start to this year), luongo, quick, price, rinne, lundqvist, schneider, bishop, and holtby. that's about half the league that are easily better, and there are others that are similar (dubnyk, for example) . please, just for once, admit st. louis isn't the best in the league at something.


21.) 31 Oct 2015 20:03:44
Wow I'm sorry to get excited by a break out rookie. Sorry my team doesn't get very many of those unlike 5 first overalls that some teams get. You damage right I'm excited . Yo answer your question I very well informed on the entire league. I just don't understand the push back if he was on Edmonton he would be the second coming of christ I got same response when tarasenko came up and I said he would be great now you know he is.


22.) 31 Oct 2015 23:06:44
Now I know Tarasenko is great? Are you kidding me? I was hyping him 2 years before he entered the NHL, you mook. And this fallback "edmonton has so many 1st overall picks" argument. You're deflecting. Its fine to be excited about a prospect/player for your favorite team but you're going above and beyond and just being a douche at this point. I'm being a douche too, but I already know that and everyone here expects that of me anyway and I own up to it. And at least I also have the hockey smarts to back it up. You're sounding like a leafs fan when Jake Gardiner was entering the league. We're all still waiting for that Norris trophy.

Nice, I managed to get a leafs jab in there.

The weirdest part of all this is that we are arguing about a player who we both like and are both fans of. But you threw skewed stats at me like you wanted this argument so I'm not going to back down when I know I'm right and some body is trying to talk down to me. Parayko is doing well. Just enjoy it. Don't step to me like you know me, you know wha I sayin'? Guuuuurl! You do' know me!


23.) 01 Nov 2015 16:11:52
I'M SAYING COLTON WILL BE IN RUNNING FOR CALDER. In my opinion if he continues to improve and play as well as he has been he will be elite. Just because he wasn't drafted 1st overall or highly toted. He was a dimond in th rough and the blues stole him in the 3rd round. Great scouting. Only time will tell who is right. I think it's funny you talkn 5th grade smack. shows your age.


24.) 01 Nov 2015 22:36:29
Season is still young. He might be, he might not be. He is up against some offensive players. Domi, Duclair, McDavid, Larkin, and Eichel just to name a few. Ask yourself this question: "Is he as good or near as good as Ekbald? " Ekbald played on a terrible Panthers team and was one of the few players to remain a plus player. You have a team that should be doing better.

I understand you have injuries, but you have to accept that. You have the depth, but what you lack is a goalie who can win yah a game when the rest of the team isn't playing good. Bishop addresses that issue. Is it worth it, I don't know, for all we know Parayko isn't going to start sucking. Time will tell. Put your hard on for him away and watch your team and hope he continues to be successful.


25.) 02 Nov 2015 00:20:33
The NHL is full of rookie studs that all warrant more consideration then him. Domi, McDavid, Eichel. You won't take it from them.


26.) 02 Nov 2015 00:38:25
Would you trade any of those young people you mentioned for bishop domi, duclair, mcdavid, eichel. you wouldn't and blues will not trade colton for him the blues build there teams from within and need the elcs to balance and stay under the cap. I do appreciate your opinions. Only time will tell. Besides we can't afford a 6 mil goalie rather have colt and shatty and backes.


27.) 02 Nov 2015 19:23:04
The difference is and it is a big one is that those teams are rebuilding!


28.) 03 Nov 2015 03:42:10
What does rebuilding have to do with anything. The reason the blues are so successful is cause they draft well and keep their young players coming in when vets go ufa. We don't have any ridicules contracts and have a very talented team. Blues will not trade a young dman stud more inclined to trade jaybo gunnerson makes more sense so they can give there young players raises. Doesn't make sense to trade anelc stud.


29.) 03 Nov 2015 12:34:29
Because rebuilding teams do not trade young players as they will help in the future. Your team isn't rebuilding and keep getting beat at key times because they have mediocre goaltending. To get a a legit #1 goalie you have to give something of value back. Not JBo or Backed either because Tampa is set upfront and on defense. They would welcome Parayko because he is cheaper than what they have and they would welcome the cap space just like you should welcome a #1 goalie. Season is still young and I doubt he keeps the pace he's on going, if he does great. But if McDavid keeps producing at the rate he is Parayko isn't going to touch him for the Calder.


30.) 03 Nov 2015 22:57:40
Look i agree the odds are in Mcdavids corner he is a talent like no other. But what i'm saying is if bishop can't win a cup for one of the hisghest scoring offenses then how is he going to do it here. The point i am making is the blues don't go out and make crazy trades we tied with miller failed lost prospects 1st rndr and others. Why do you think we are still winning with shatty, tarasenko, statsny, berglund, and swartz out.

Because we have great depth from our young developed talent. The blues just don't trade them away for rentals or high salaries. The blues wold never bring in a 6 mil goalie iunles it was quick or price, We had Bishop Traded him. Jake ALLen will impress this year he already had .929 sv% 1.89 gaa and a shut out. he is super young.


 

 

22 Oct 2015 05:28:32
This could be a 2016 offseason trade. If the whole Lehner thing in Buffalo doesn't workout, and Vasy in Tampa breaks out, Bish could be out the door soon.

To Buffalo
G, Ben Bishop

To Tampa Bay
C, Sam Reinhart

Don't know if value is good here but I think with Buffalos stacked centre core of Eichel, O'Reilly, and Girgensons. Reinhart is kinda expendable. Since Reinhart is a righty he could play RW along side Drouin and Stammer. I'm not sure how high Sam's value is but I think a straight up deal for Bish isn't too terrible of a deal. Also Tampa has loads of picks and peices they could add to even it out if needed.

Reminator

1.) 22 Oct 2015 08:39:09
I see this as an offseason move. Tampa would probably want a defenceman and just swap Reinhart for one whose similar potential wise.


2.) 22 Oct 2015 09:36:51
Yeah, as he said, definitely an offseason-move, if at all.
Buffalo is definitely one of the potential trade partners, imo.
Value wise, I'd say it's pretty good. Putting two great playmakers next to Stamkos in Drouin and Reinhart could pay big dividends.
As for the need on D, I think Koekkoek next year and DeAngelo next or the second next year are definitely able to fill the holes that Coburns and Carles departures (hopefully) next summer leave) .


3.) 22 Oct 2015 13:10:40
I like the trade personally, if they know 100% Vasilevski is ready.

It fills major needs for both teams, and the value is pretty close if not fair for both. Drouin-Stamkos-Reinhart would be deadly.


4.) 22 Oct 2015 14:01:26
I understand why people like this trade. Just as a Tampa fan I'm not sure. Value probably there but Buffalo gets a lot better by getting a goalie that can win them games. Tampa adds to an already crowded forward group. Not to mention the trades within division.


5.) 22 Oct 2015 15:01:29
Tampa adds IMO. I don't know how much maybe Killorn?


6.) 22 Oct 2015 16:21:34
Maybe Killorn? He isn't like a little throw-in.


7.) 22 Oct 2015 16:26:18
Reinhart would never be traded to a division rival and the sabres are not giving up on Lehner especially after paying a first for him.


8.) 22 Oct 2015 20:01:29
I didn't say he was. I'm not sure how much Tampa would have to add but do you really think Bishop could get a 2nd overall? I think people are overlooking Reinhart in this trade for some reason. Would you do Bishop for Bennet?


9.) 23 Oct 2015 09:33:34
If my team was in glaring need for a number one goalie that can carry a team in the playoffs (Bishop has proven both) while dealing from an absolut surplus (Eichel, ROR, Girgensons, etc), yes I'd do it.

Do you think the Sabres will fare better in the playoffs once they reach them with Lehner (this is all under the premise he does not prove to be an elite #1) and Reinhart or a #1 goalie that has already carried a team to the cup final?

I'd take the latter any day fo the week.


10.) 23 Oct 2015 17:16:00
Yeah the Oilers should've traded McDavid for Bishop then. Now yes yes McDavid is an exaggeration but you don't trade the future. I wouldn't trade the young centre with high potential. Who knows they could snag a goalie in FA like Calgary or whoever else did.


11.) 23 Oct 2015 22:25:41
No point in trading for a stud goalie now, why give up a 19 year old potential elite center for a goalie nearing 30 when your team needs to mature for atleast another 2 seasons to be competitive.


12.) 24 Oct 2015 08:02:52
Because goalies usually enter their prime with 30 or slightly above 30? Would be a perfect fit.

The McDavid comparison is pretty bad, he's THE piece of EDM. Reinhart is the 3rd center piece, behind Eichel (obvious) and ROR (contract, two-way play, leadership) . So that's a totally different situation.

As a said, an elite #1 goalie - Reinhart will get them much further in the playoffs than a suckish/mediocre goalie + Reinhart will.


13.) 24 Oct 2015 20:21:25
Reinhart isn't as significant as McDavid but he's still young with tons of potential. There not competing for a cup so they don't need Bishop that bad right now. Plus they just traded a 1st for Lenher I'm sure they have more faith then him being a backup. All scenarios aside Bishop isn't worth a recent 2nd overall.


 

 

07 Oct 2015 13:34:36
I don't think this would happen IRL but wondering if value was fair

To Anaheim
C, Vladislav Namestnikov
D, Luke Witkowski
2016 1st (TB)
2016 2nd (TB) (Tampa has BOS 2016 2nd)

To Tampa
D, Hampus Lindholm

Like I said, don't think this would happen in real life, but you got to remember Anaheim has a lot of RFA's next year and a situation like Dougie Hamilton could potentially happen.

Reminator

1.) 07 Oct 2015 16:16:56
Lindholm is the future of Anaheims defense. No way they move him.


2.) 07 Oct 2015 17:43:03
Stopped reading once I saw Hampus Lindholm. Any deal for Lindholm start with Drouin.


3.) 07 Oct 2015 19:15:43
@Stammer. That's what everyone said about Dougie Hamilton.


4.) 07 Oct 2015 20:44:39
Drouin's a scrub


5.) 07 Oct 2015 23:31:53
Much more needed for Lindholm; start with Drouin; although much may not need to be added from there.


6.) 08 Oct 2015 08:46:29
Tampa wishes
Lindholm is a stud, as mentioned above, prolly have to start with Drouin. Think we need Drouin as a playmaker for Stamkos, so both teams should just stay put, they're both good as they are


 

 

30 Sep 2015 15:12:57
I could be off in value with this, but I'm just curious who adds to this deal. I'm leaning towards Tampa adding, but I'm not sure.

To Washington
C, Vlad Namestnikov

To Tampa
D, Madison Bowey

Who adds?

I think this trade could work for both teams. First off, I believe that Tampas top 6 is wayyy too hard to crack, guys like Callahan and Killorn are going to be fighting for spots. So I think it's a waste to have Vladdy play on the 3rd or 4th line. If the Lightning could get a young solid defensmen for him, I think they would value that more. Now, Washington already has Carlson, Alzner, Niskanen, Orpik. Obviously a spot for Bowey could be made, but there isn't a huge need to for dmen. Also the caps are still looking for that #2 centre and Vladdy could be groomed into that spot with guys like Kusnetsov & Burakovsky. Again, if the caps feel it isn't enough to give up on Bowey, Tampa can add. Let me know what you guys think.

Reminator

1.) 30 Sep 2015 16:05:06
I think they'll both be replacements on there current team. Like Orpik and Niskanen aren't getting any younger and guys like Callahan will be traded in the near future for cap. Anyways Tampa would definitely add


2.) 30 Sep 2015 22:39:31
TB adds, but I agree w. @Oilers_11. But your logic does make sense. However TBs d-core is kinda crowded, and Bowey may be fighting for a spot in the top 4, not having one:

TB D-core future:

Hedman - Stralman
Deangelo - Nesterov/Bowey
Sustr/Koekoek - Nesterov/Bowey

Overall, good thoughts though.


3.) 01 Oct 2015 00:45:19
Just because Washington has Orpik, Niskenen etc. Doesn't mean they have to trade Bowey as well Wsh has Kuznetzov for 2nd line C for the future.


4.) 01 Oct 2015 08:48:16
Although the need isn't exactly there, I guess Tampa adds a bit. Namestnikov gets undervalued in general, but Bowey is a pretty good prospect, so


 

 

 

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09 Oct 2015 03:40:08
I was just thinking about Tampa's goalie situation, and with Vasilevskiy ready to take the reins in a year or two, I've been wondering how much Ben Bishop is valued in the league. When I think of a potential trade partner, I think of the Blues. 1. The Blues really haven't figured out the goalie situation, Bish could be perfect to take them farther in the playoffs. 2. STL drafted Bish and it would be cool to see him as the #1 goalie. It got me thinking of how much could Tampa get for him, I got two names that come to mind, Robby Fabbri & Ty Rattie. Could Tampa get Fabbri for Bish straight up? Or would it be Rattie straight up? Just kinda wondering Bish's value. Is
Fabbri too much? Is Rattie too little? Let me know your guys opinions because it got me thinking.

Reminator

1.) 09 Oct 2015 09:00:45
Well, 1. I don't think the Blues are in ideal fit, because in a year, I see Jake Allen as their unquestioned starter. 2. Apart from that, Bishop is a proven #1 goalie that has taken a team to the Cup Final. As good a prospect Fabbri is, I'd want more if I'm Tampa, #1 goalies do not grow on trees.

Depending on how Talbot does, I can still see the Oilers as a good trade partner for Bishop with Draisaitl a possible target for Tampa due to his size and two-way skill


2.) 09 Oct 2015 12:00:06
I think Calgary would be a good fit as well with all of the uncertainty they have in net.


3.) 09 Oct 2015 18:26:05
So do you think a potential Bennett for Bish trade? Or is that too much? Tampa could add to that?


4.) 09 Oct 2015 18:34:13
Ummmm Buffalo is terrible in net.


5.) 09 Oct 2015 19:01:30
Reminator. really? you seriously think that bishop could garner bennet?? bennet imo is the 3rd best prospect in the league behind mcdavid and eichel. so the answer imo is Hell naw


6.) 09 Oct 2015 22:27:27
Ya I didn't think so, just kinda threw it out there.


7.) 09 Oct 2015 23:30:00
@BigZ

What are you smoking?

McDavid
Eichel
S.Reinhart
Vasilevsky


8.) 10 Oct 2015 02:00:11
Mcdavid
Eichel
Larkin
Bennett
Ehlers/Vas


IMO top 5


9.) 10 Oct 2015 08:34:18
Why not? All depends on how Bishop and Bennett do the next year, but again, #1 goalies don't grow on trees, CAL has an awesome defense and good forwards. They remind me of Tampa in it's earlier stages, just more D than O orientated. Add Bishop to that (huge upgrade over any of their 3 goalies) and this team is an instant-contender for years to come.


10.) 10 Oct 2015 11:42:46
haha well I value bennet higher thatn reinhart and I wasnt considering goalies so vasi didn't count there

and bennet is better than larking aswell imo
so i'm standing by with what I said


 

 

04 Apr 2015 22:12:37
Hi, I'm am a huge Lightning fan, and I was wondering what you guys think of this. Martin St. Louis is a free agent after this season, what are the chances of him coming back to Tampa. Now, I'm very educated on the history with Marty and Yzerman. But what if Steve called St. Louis, apologized for what had gone down, a man to man conversation. Say he said, "Come back for one last season, come play with Stamkos, he'll offer a 5.75-6M, 1 year deal, make one last cup run in Tampa". The Lightning are on the rise and could you imagine a lineup like this.
Drouin-Stamkos-St. Louis
Palat-Johnson-Kucherov
I know it's a longshot but what if Marty put his past behind him, and signed with the Lightning? Let me know what you think.

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15 Feb 2015 16:02:31
It's official
To Nashville
Cody Franson, D
Mike Santorelli, F

To Toronto
2015 1st round pick (NSH)
Olli Jokinen, F
Brandon Leipsic (Prospect)

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08 Feb 2015 02:14:24
Lightning are in pursuit of Cody Franson, the Lightning have lost Gudas, Carle, and now Garrison to injuries. I wanna know, what would it take to get Franson? Let me know your proposals. IMO, the Lightning would have to start with Brett Connolly. But let me know your opinions.

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1.) 08 Feb 2015 04:41:22
if they're starting with connolly i'd look elsewhere lol.


2.) Stamkos and Drouin.


3.) If you think a deal starting with a young forward that should be playing in the top 6 and can score with the best of them in terms of 5v5 goals/60 then ya. Look elsewhere. But you'll probably end up losing him for nothing as a free agent because your really over valuing a player with 2 months left on their contract


4.) 08 Feb 2015 08:42:28
Nailed it jbs. TOR could be lucky to get a talented scorer like Connolly for a guy that's a FA in a few months.
Add a conditional pick in case Franson resigns, which I highly doubt


5.) ^ All the responses seem to ignore the reality of trade deadline madness. If Tampa thinks they can make a run and if they think Franson can put them over the top, they will overpay for him.

Now I don't think it's Connolly. More than likely a 2nd and a B prospect.


6.) Stammer drouin and bishop for franson reimer and clarkson

dont forget to retain half of stammers contract.


7.) 08 Feb 2015 18:05:32
umm connolly is a talented scorer in what world?

he has 15 goals in 124 games, and no he wouldn't be in anyones top 6 aside from maybe BUF and even then maybe not.


8.) 08 Feb 2015 18:21:58
DONE DEAL OVIE!

@Adam: SY is a smart GM. Sure, every GM overpays in the frenzy, but I guess Yzerman is a little more smart than many other GMs. can't remember a single dumb deadline deal in his 5 years now. For example, he added Roloson for a joke price (was it a cond. 6th/7th or so?) and Roloson carried'em all the way to the ECF Game 7.
Oh and a B prospect alone is worth a lot more than Franson. But I guess you didn't really mean a B prospect. B would be Koekkoek for example.


9.) I could see a koekkoek for franson deal


10.) Connolly is a talented scorer in the world where playing with Boyle and Morrow on the fourth line he is top 30 in the league in goals scored/60 minutes. Which is this world. Give him top six line mates and he will score goal numbers will go up.


11.) 08 Feb 2015 23:18:44
they may, or they may not, but the fact remains that right now he is a player in his 3rd professional season and has done essentially nothing at the NHL level, those guys generally don't bring back much of a return at all. soory to break that to you.


12.) @Drais - I get it. I am not calling SYs intelligence into question. My point was more to say that if a team sees it's self as contender and thinks Franson is the difference between getting close or not, they are willing to pay what is needed. In a lot of cases, that could be considered "overpaying" (which is a ridiculously subjective term to begin with), but to a team that wins the cup I'm sure it doesn't really matter as much.

As for what I meant by "B prospect", it's all semantics. What I meant was someone on the spectrum of the second tier. Clearly who the prospect is dictates whether it's enough for Franson (ie Koekkoek). But I also think Nonis will be trying to get picks in this draft. So the asking price may be a 2nd +.

It's all speculation anyway. I'm not really convinced he goes to Tampa anyway.


13.) 09 Feb 2015 09:46:30
@Shankar: jbs basically said it. Connolly was and is stuck behind great offense (Stamkos, Johnson, Palat, Kucherov, Callahan, Filppula and Lecavalier and St.Louis + others in the past). Currently he's playing fourth line minutes with Morrow and Boyle I think. And he's still in the top 30 goals scored/60. And his linemates are not really known to be excellent top 6 linemates or very good passers.
Put this kid with better linemates and he could live up to his potential. GMs know that, so he does carry value.

@Adam: I don't think he goes to TB, too. Really hope the Kings get him.
Franson is good, but I don't think he's a player that makes the difference between getting close or not, as you said.
Asking price sure is a 2nd+, but I'm curious to see who's willing to "overpay", haha. Sure hope (and think) Yzerman wont.


14.) 09 Feb 2015 17:14:53
and you think gm's dot see his 15 goals and, I believe, 28 points in 124 games?

even if they did think he'd be a good add to their roster they'll be sayign look, what has he done to earn such a good return.


15.) 10 Feb 2015 17:39:14
Shankar, how often do I have to repeat myself? He's playing 4th line minutes with 4th line linemates. But is still in the top 30 goals scored per 60.
Pretty much erases you silly argument(s)


 

 

04 Feb 2015 21:55:23
Why would it take to get Kreider from the Rangers to the Lightning? I feel like the combination of Stamkos and Kreider could secretly be deadly.

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1.) Yeah cause stamkos is one of the best kept secrets in the league[sarcasm]


2.) 05 Feb 2015 11:08:50
Probably sth the Lightning would not be willing to surrender. Plus I think getting a defensive D and maybe a backup goalie are bigger needs.


 

 

 

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Agree 100% with jbs. If they can move Carle's 5.5M. And let Coburn walk freeing up 4.5M. That's more than enough to sign stammer. People forget that Stamkos cap hit is 7.5M, if he signs for 11M, that's only a 3.5M increase in salary. That's not even Carle's contract right there. I do however think Killorn will get moved, he's too good for 3rd line time.

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Ya I didn't think so, just kinda threw it out there.

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09 Oct 2015 18:26:05
So do you think a potential Bennett for Bish trade? Or is that too much? Tampa could add to that?

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