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19 Feb 2018 18:10:48
Phi: Toews, Crawford, Wingels
Chi: MacDonald, Lehtera, Weise, Read, Elliot, Sanhiem, Hart, 1st 2018, 1st 2019, additional second if flyers win cup in next two years
Hawks begin their rebuild, get a top goalie prospect, d prospect, 2 first, bad contracts that don't go past 3 three years, also unload toews big contract which he's not worth 10.5 but phi goes all in for the next 2 years while still keeping some youth long term, can compete with pens now
1.) 19 Feb 2018 18:35:05
ah yes. the good old 7 for 3 trade. terrific. -. -
also. huge no from Philly.
2.) 19 Feb 2018 19:53:28
The only good pieces philly is giving up is Hart, sanheim and the picks lol.
3.) 19 Feb 2018 20:18:47
I know the rest are cap related and no long term contract.
4.) 19 Feb 2018 20:39:53
Yeah but first of all Chicago can’t take on an extra 4 contracts and cap issues yeah I know where you’re going with it but those pieces are not even close to enough value to get toews lol and Chicago would never do that yenno.
5.) 19 Feb 2018 23:38:39
Toews has a big contract and his offensive numbers are not like Kane’s, we get it. But this idea that hawks are going to try to give away a guy that won them 3 cups, is only like 29-30 years old, already one of the greatest players in their history and has shown to be nothing short of a great person and captain is so dumb. It’s like early in the year when price struggled and people are talking about placing him on waivers, or trading him for a B prospect to rid them of the contract, he’s still an elite goalie and toews stilll has a ton to give. They will not trade toews, and if they ever did, they aren’t sending him along with a star goalie for a bunch of scraps, a cpl decent prospects and a cpl late firsts. Have an idea.
6.) 20 Feb 2018 01:27:33
Nicely put Jim.
7.) 20 Feb 2018 02:32:43
you can't compare price and toews too different positions and markets, also your getting to attached to your players ya its great he won 3 cups, but in a tough division its best to rebuilt or retool now they can't compete anymore for cup at most just make the playoffs so might as well get something potential good instead of having toews make 10.5 until he's 35.
8.) 20 Feb 2018 02:34:15
also if they want to retool now they have 1st round picks to get a new centre or they just rebuilt in their tough division.
9.) 20 Feb 2018 03:34:04
You forgot Philly's equipment manager!
10.) 20 Feb 2018 05:12:07
I’m not comparing price and toews as players. Didn’t think it came off like that. I’m comparing situations. Two great players that have done a ton for their respective organizations and have been rewarded financially for it. And IF they get traded it will be for a lot more than that kind of package. Neither of them are washed up, they both still have plenty of productive years left. Trading toews and Crawford just guarantees they don’t win anymore, it doesn’t put them into full rebuild mode. They would still be a mediocre team, not getting top picks unless you wanna trade kieth and Kane too and you will never win a Patrick Kane trade. Also, it’s not me being too emotionally connected to my players, don’t know how long you have been on here, but Chicago is not ‘my team’.
11.) 20 Feb 2018 15:26:35
I have to respect qwerty's concerns tho jim, i mean go down the line the hawks have a lot of guys apart of those 3 cups. i'm not saying they should trade toews, but toews, kane, keith, seabrook and crawford can't all stay if they want to get any type of rebuild done.
30 Jan 2018 02:12:55
Min: Pax, byron
Mtl: coyle, ennis, 2nd becomes 1st in they reach conference finals, 3rd
why min gets top 6 forward more scoring punch and speed in byron can play anywhere in line up, save cap
mtl moves on and gets a centre opportunity to play a bigger role could work out
1.) 30 Jan 2018 06:07:25
This is interesting but can’t see minny doing it tbh.
16 Dec 2017 19:40:37
Hawks should rebuild why there players still have good value, hawks are good but no longer good enough to win the cup
Buf: Kane, Crawford
Chi: Kane, Moulson, Bogosian, Beaulieu, Lehner, Ullmark, Nylander, 1st unprotected, 2nd 2019 becomes first if buf makes the playoffs
Mtl: Toews, Murphy
Chi: Galchenyuk, Lekonen, Petry, hemsky, Fucale, 1st unprotected, 2nd 2019 if mtl makes playoffs
Nyr: Anisimov, franson, wingels
Chi: Staal, Chytil, 1st 2019
Ott: Keith, Panik, Sharp
Chi: White, Ceci, Burrows, Condon, Macarthur, 1st 2019, 2nd if sens make it to the stanley cup finals in the next two years
Bos: Saad
Chi: Beleasky, Miller, Zboril, 1st 2019
Sjs: E. Kane, Condon
Chi: Boeker, Martin, Dell, 1st 2019, 2nd if kane re signs
Phi: Galchenyuk, Seabrook
Chi: Lethora, MacDonald, Sanhien, 2nd, 1st 2019
Hawks don't take a bad contract longer than 4 years, try and get jack hughes next years, got young players like: white, Chytil, Lekonen, Nylander, Still have dibrincat, dmen you got Sanhien, Zboril Ceci, Goalies dell and ullmark a lot of picks, bad contract: Lethora, Macdonal, Boeaker, Martin, Staal, Bealsky, Bogosian, hopefully be able to trade miller, petry, lehner
1.) 16 Dec 2017 20:25:41
Because Chicago would totally do this 🙄.
2.) 16 Dec 2017 20:40:59
The hawks are not trading Toews.
3.) 16 Dec 2017 21:00:54
Dumbest post iv ever seen, sorry. Like what are you talking about man :/.
4.) 16 Dec 2017 22:01:42
This is a whole new level.
5.) 17 Dec 2017 04:00:35
This is one of the worst. Until Toews and Kane are like 32 33 years old. they will try and figure out how to put the best team around these guys. not destroy the team altogether.
6.) 17 Dec 2017 04:23:47
Agree but still Hawks used to be carried by Toews Crawford Keith Kane
Toews down 3 to go.
7.) 23 Dec 2017 12:18:47
Multiple NOs starting with Chicago . duh?
07 Dec 2017 18:39:23
Dal: Karlsson, Condon, Burrows retain 50%
Ott: Heiskane, Honka, Faska, Lethonen, bow, 1st, 2nd additional first if dallas wins cup in next two years or they re sign karlsson if both happen a 1st and a 2nd
I know Dallas has Klingberg but Dallas will have two years of karlsson and sequin under good contract and in two years spezza and methot will be UFA, no reason they can't keep core intact seguin, benn, radulov, karlsson, and klingberg and bishop both have good contracts and re sign lindell
Ottawa will have a good d core in the future chabot, Heiskane, honka,
1.) 07 Dec 2017 18:44:46
Very much no. I would rather Quality over Quantity. and were not retaining burrows if that's the trade were getting.
2.) 07 Dec 2017 19:54:10
this is a veryyyy interesting trade to me because they're both my favourite teams, idk how I feel about this.
3.) 07 Dec 2017 20:02:07
Ottawa says no.
4.) 10 Dec 2017 23:36:29
joke. Someone has to pay dearly to get Karlsson.
09 Nov 2017 20:12:14
Dal: Mcdonagh, Garbner retain 50%, Pavelic
Nyr: Heinskanen, Lethonen, Oleskie, Dickinson, 1st, 2nd 2019
1.) 10 Nov 2017 07:11:47
No from dallas
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22 Nov 2017 22:54:40
Phi: Price, Weber, Plek retain 50%, Mitchell retain 50%, montoya retain 50%
Mtl: Patrick, Sanhein, Hart, Elliot, neuvirth, weise, MacDonald, Lethera, read, 1st better one of phi or STL, 2nd, 1st 2019,
future 1st if phi win cup in next three 3 years, future 2nd if price wins vezina trophy next three years
Price= Patrick, 3 goalies (prob trade one of elliot or neuvrth for a draft pick), 1st, 1st, lethera
Weber= Sanhien, Macdonal
Plek mitchell montoya = 2nd weise read
ignoring the above if mtl just trades price and maybe a ufa would min price for price be: patrick, sanhien, couple 1st, elliot, cap dumps 1 or 2?? habs need a young centre in return for sure in my mind if they trade price and rebuild
1.) 23 Nov 2017 00:37:07
Wtf did i just read?
2.) 23 Nov 2017 03:04:32
Hahahahahahahaha. Half a team for half a team. Happens all the time. Good post.
Might be the first 17 player trade ever. History folks.
3.) 23 Nov 2017 22:21:49
So 1st of all you can only retain 2 salary’s per team so this is vetoed by the NHL.
4.) 24 Nov 2017 02:24:27
Yaaa. That's the reason his wouldn't happen 😂😂. Haha.
08 Nov 2017 00:13:38
Ott: Grabner
Nyr: Harper, 6th
26 May 2017 22:04:40
Vegas can really load up in picks with teams who want to get rid of bad contracts or don't want to lose a good player
Vegas gets: 1st from ANA 2018 to select Stoner
2018 1st from Phi to select MacDonald and trade a late pick for read
2017 2nd from boston to select beleasky
2017 2nd from Dal to select Niemi or Letenon
2017 1st from edm to select pouliot and trade late pick for fayne
2017 1st from CBJ to take Clarkson or Hartnell unless wenneberg is available take him then and don't do the trade
2018 1st from MIN for MIN to tell them who to pick
2017 2nd from NSH to allow them to protect two extra forwards since there going with the 4/4/1
2018 1st lottery protected from NYR to select Girardi
2017 1st from LA to take Gaborik or Brown LA chooses
Pitts trades a 1st to tell Vegas who to pick unless Murray is some how available
Ott trades a 1st to tell them who to pick
just some examples Vegas should start right from the rebuild stage and aim for a top pick next year then progress from there instead of trying to make the playoffs this year because no matter how you pick the team they aren't good, maybe try and avoid bad contracts 5years plus like ryan and brown but if you can get a great return then maybe do it, all other players listed have 4 or less years and maybe some could get moved down the road for picks
1.) 27 May 2017 01:13:54
Most of those are absolutely ridiculous for both Vegas and the other team. Good job, that's hard to do.
2.) 27 May 2017 05:58:08
Vegas has the chance to make deals to take gain assets for taking guys like Ryan or Eberle let's say, and then retaining money on them and trading them again for more assets. Making them then a lot more valuable to teams that would give up more assets for them.
Get an asset for taking Ryan then Retain $2M and trade him again for more assets. Would be pretty smart. They have the money and would set up better for the future.
3.) 31 May 2017 20:36:53
Why not every team in league jus make a deal and the GoldenJesters can have the whole 1st round of the 2018 draft. cause it makes sense.
Lol. No not at all. there will deffinetly he some side deals . But I also believe the GM is going to want to put the beat team on the ice he can. This is an Extremely non traditional hockey market and he's going to have to win over some fans before the Raiders come to town. the Vegas culture is all about trying to win. so being entertaining as well as competitive is going to be key.
4.) 31 May 2017 20:36:53
Why not every team in league jus make a deal and the GoldenJesters can have the whole 1st round of the 2018 draft. cause it makes sense.
Lol. No not at all. there will deffinetly he some side deals . But I also believe the GM is going to want to put the beat team on the ice he can. This is an Extremely non traditional hockey market and he's going to have to win over some fans before the Raiders come to town. the Vegas culture is all about trying to win. so being entertaining as well as competitive is going to be key.
25 Nov 2016 01:15:27
If i'm Vegas i'd make a bunch of expansion draft pick trades to get draft picks in 2017/ 2018 and try and take on players in 3/ 4 yrs contract length or less same with free agent signings unless core players like a shattenkirk
Example:
Ana trades a first to select stoner if not there probably going to lose a good dmen or silverberg
clb: trades a 1st second if they don't make the playoffs to select clarkson
Pitts trades a 1st condition Vegas picks Fehr unless they can get murray and fleury doesn't waive his no trade
Min trades a 1st to pick Pominville (has to waive no move clause) because if not there probably going to get one of there dmen
Tb trades a 1st to select condra if not there going to take one of there forwards
Nyr trade a 2nd to select Garadi
Phi trades a 2nd to select MacDonald
etc.
The point is vegas isn't going to be good regardless who or how they pick the decent players in there 20s won't as good when vegas is actually competitive so they might as well start bad stock up on picks in 2017/ 2018 and go for the 1st overall pick in 2018 and have vets to trade at the deadline or years to come and try not to select players with contracts longer then 4 years.
1.) 25 Nov 2016 06:18:49
Clarkson can only be moved if he wants to his contract is no movement.
2.) 25 Nov 2016 11:58:30
Historically i don't think its been firsts traded in these kinds of deals. Either way Vegas made it clear they wanna win fast and not build properly. Atlanta 2.0.
3.) 25 Nov 2016 15:51:05
I was wondering about the trades to Vegas to not take certain players. Ei: Pitts trades a 4th round pick to not take one of MAF or Murray.
But, Can a team trade a pick to Vegas to TAKE a certain player?
4.) 25 Nov 2016 17:53:06
It sounds to me like they'll do whatever the heck they want, just won't put anything on paper. And I don't see why they wouldn't be first's. Taking stoner instead of Fowler/ Rakell would take atleast a first IMO. I think it's a great way to build up a prospect pool and not have a team of 30 NHL players. Oil could trade a 2nd for them too take Pouliot.
5.) 25 Nov 2016 20:05:35
Exactly, there'll be tons of backdoor deals. Vegas can either take those or say screw it and nab the player they really want. Should be interesting to see how it pans out.
6.) 25 Nov 2016 21:01:09
If I was an owner of one the previous expansion teams. ie. Columbus ect. i'd br pissed. They didn't get the same opportunity that this team is getting. took years for those teams to become relavant. Vegas has a chance to be competitive very soon.
To me. Fair is fair. and they should have to build the same way as previous teams. I guess its a different business model than back then
. But still. I don't like it.
14 Aug 2016 23:06:12
Det: Fowler, Garbutt (4.9 cap hit/ 6 m salary)
Ana: Nyquist, Smith (7.5 cap hit/ 7.5m salary), 3rd
Det: Nash, 3rd, 4th (7.8 cap hit/ 8m salary)
Nyr: Green, Pulkienen, 1st (if they make the playoffs 2nd otherwise) (6.8 salary and cap hit)
Det: Anderson (4.2 cap hit/ 4.750 salary)
Ott: Howard, Jurco (Retain 50%), 4th (cap hit 5.8 cap hit with retain/ 5.975 salary with retain)
Why: Ana gets a top winger, 3rd pair dmen FA next year so no commitment long term
Nyr: Nash and Green have same length in contract left, nor needs offensive dmen to replace yandle, the first should get them to accept the trade
Ott: After this year howard's salary is lower then his cap hit sens love contracts like this, they need a top forward which jurco could be a steal never really got a trade chance in Det but they still have to take on some money
Det: they get an Offensive dmen, they've always wanted nash, i know giving up a first hurts but I've heard its a weak draft and couple late picks help detroit is good at late draft picks, also detroit has the money to pay for nash's 8/ 8.2 million contract left, detroit gets a veteran back up contact ends same time as mrazek, they have lots of young forwards giving up jurco wouldn't hurt since he wouldn't be in their top 9 with AA showing better signs than jurco.
1.) 15 Aug 2016 00:28:09
that Rangers one is bad for detroit.
2.) 15 Aug 2016 22:30:57
there used to be this guy who posted here, i think his name was montrealsfinest a long time ago that i would eat a shoe if the habs won the cup in the next 2-3 years (price and patches contract window) anyway i'm not sure if this canadas finest guy knows him or something but they're talking about that from a long time ago.
MF you're a joke to change your name to agree and comment in your arguments favor on your own posts. seriously we (fantasy group plus other regulars) try to accept that you aren't completely bananas. and you just don't stop.
20 Feb 2018 02:34:15
also if they want to retool now they have 1st round picks to get a new centre or they just rebuilt in their tough division.
20 Feb 2018 02:32:43
you can't compare price and toews too different positions and markets, also your getting to attached to your players ya its great he won 3 cups, but in a tough division its best to rebuilt or retool now they can't compete anymore for cup at most just make the playoffs so might as well get something potential good instead of having toews make 10.5 until he's 35.
19 Feb 2018 20:18:47
I know the rest are cap related and no long term contract.
13 Nov 2017 03:39:26
no even close.
08 Jun 2017 05:02:46
I know there dumping halak but lehnor has been injury prone and this took push him to be better anyways maybe make it a second then.
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