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22 Feb 2019 17:34:26
Based on the return Ottawa got on the Duschene trade.

OTT: Stone
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Conditional 1st Round Pick 2020 (if Stone resigns), Petan, Stanley

Jaxon

1.) 22 Feb 2019 17:54:02
This is close but the Jets should take out Stanley and give the Sens a choice of Suess, Spacek or Lipon all solid B prospects.


2.) 22 Feb 2019 18:07:43
I would say they look more comfortable into Appleton then Petan. Tbh if Petan goes anywhere I see a team giving up a 4-5th round pick.


3.) 22 Feb 2019 18:10:06
A possible slight suggestion, remove the 2020 1st round pick, with us taking back B Ryan (50% retained)


4.) 22 Feb 2019 20:10:34
Duchene* for f sakes lol. Also Stone has more value than Duchene. So i'm sure he will potentially get bigger return.


5.) 22 Feb 2019 20:21:07
That would be a very comparable offer to what Duchene got. Well done. I agree with Islandjet though, we may be able to keep Stanley and give up a lesser piece.

Overall though, a pretty good offer.


6.) 22 Feb 2019 20:30:35
Honestly the guy has been in the league for like a decade why can’t people figure out how to spell the guy’s name. It’s pretty simple. Douchaysne. Figure it out guys seriously.


7.) 23 Feb 2019 00:09:34
Way too much from Winnipeg, I mean c’mon guys, the God himself Petan is in there, he could probably get Stone 1 for 1.

No but seriously, Petan is valueless, a team would give up at most a 4th for him, so if you want Stone is going to start with two firsts and a good prospect, not none of this B prospect crap and Petan, get real.


8.) 23 Feb 2019 00:28:54
Well not a spelling bee website. I was thinking duchene and stone are close in value, was thinking stone was worth more cause all around game, but centers seem more valuable so maybe evens out. Stone will get same If teams are willing to pay but sets the price for stone. I thought maybe opens the door for Columbus to trade panarin but from what I've read they're keeping him. Would be awesome to see him back in Chicago but slim chances they want players like Saad and anisimov and add like a Mitchell and a couple 1sts unless guaranteed to resign.


 

 

20 Feb 2019 03:46:02
Since all the Ottawa fans think that what I've proposed so far isn't enough here we go....

OTT: Stone
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2019, Vesalainen, Conditional 3rd Round Pick 2020 (turns into a 1st if Stone resigns)

Jets then sign Stone to an 8 year $7.5M contract. At the draft they trade Ehlers for a top 5 Pick to clear salary.

Jaxon

1.) 20 Feb 2019 04:30:24
He’s not getting a top 5 pick when the teams who draft those players will need those ELCs.


2.) 20 Feb 2019 15:50:32
How is he not? He’s 23, posted back to back 60+ point seasons and is under a great contract for another 6 years. If the Jets trade him for a Top 5 Pick it’s a gamble and they’re not guaranteed an impact player.


3.) 20 Feb 2019 16:44:19
Mcjesus clearly stated why lol if you read it. bottom feeder teams in the mix for a lottery pick will need those top 5 draft picks to pan out and be impactful during their ELCs, these teams don't need that cap right now.


4.) 20 Feb 2019 17:09:32
There are so many trade proposals that have the Jets giving way too much for a rental that just will not happen. Chevy is a very smart GM and is most likely looking for another very good piece or two elsewhere. If Ottawa want an unrealistic return for Stone or Duchene they can go fleece another team.


5.) 20 Feb 2019 17:16:49
^ yes.


6.) 20 Feb 2019 17:47:44
Does a team like Arizona or Edmonton want to go on the path of draft and develop? Probably not, they’ve both been doing that for how many years now. It’s time for them to move some picks for proven players.


7.) 20 Feb 2019 18:14:30
My yes was directed to notdelusional, but Jaxon you used a good example in Oilers, bcuz yes they would definitely take a proven player instead of that top 5 pick but they do not have the cap space for it, hence why I said those lottery teams need those players on their ELCs. And Arizona is no where near contending so they absolutely will not trade away their pick. They’ll stay the course and draft a player and I can’t recall any trade in the past 5-10 years that somebody traded away a top 5 pick at the draft for a player (If it’s happened then I just am not aware of it) .


8.) 20 Feb 2019 18:15:16
Edmonton is a really good example jax but like what was said before oilers will need that ELC as they don't got the cap space for Ehlers.


9.) 20 Feb 2019 18:17:02
its alright islandjet when your cryin because the jets don't get any player of significance at the deadline because they won't part with atleast a 1st or top prospect we will all be here for you. nawt.


10.) 20 Feb 2019 18:22:03
Even when trading for proven players, Edmonton and Arizona are just so bad that even the proven players end up going downhill. Lucic is perfect example of that.


11.) 20 Feb 2019 18:57:13
Zamboni that's a complete bonehead example, a perfect dumb example.


12.) 20 Feb 2019 18:58:23
No from Winnipeg. Rental players do not return top prospects. This is well established historically. Ottawa has no chance at Vesalainen for a rental.


13.) 20 Feb 2019 20:24:58
I think I would be more concerned if the Jets over-payed for any rental rather than not making a trade that cost them players for the future. Chevy is a smart GM and he will not sell the farm to get a rental.


14.) 20 Feb 2019 22:07:11
Memarcusjoe they got Gustafson for basically nothing plus Vegas ate half Brassard contract in same 3 way trade.

Also if rentals don't return top prospects you might want to tell the rest of the league that. Pittsburgh notorious for shopping top prospects for a rental shot at cup, Washington also did it with erat or did you forget the Forsberg part of that deal? Or more recently Miller and McDonagh both in their contract year getting the rangers a 1st, Howden and then some.

To say rentals don't get top prospects is laughable at best as it literally happens every year with teams who want to take a run at the cup, heck you could argue the EK to SJS trade was a season rental not that I want to use that as an example but I could.


15.) 22 Feb 2019 09:36:44
Stone is not signing for 7.5m per.


 

 

19 Feb 2019 00:10:19
OTT: Stone
WPG: Comrie, Petan, Spacek, 1st Round Pick 2019

Jaxon

1.) 19 Feb 2019 04:19:11
Now that's a proper offer for a rental. Nothing off the roster, just a pick and prospects. 4 assets is a bit much, but I could live with it.


2.) 19 Feb 2019 19:17:08
Lol ya a proper trade for sens to decline.


3.) 19 Feb 2019 19:57:48
Wish I could get a top player in the league who is only 26 for 3 guys who won’t ever make the team and an extremely late 1st round pick.


4.) 19 Feb 2019 22:22:27
Stone is a UFA rental that the Jets wouldn't be able to resign so he isn't worth as much to the Jets as the posters believe. Why give up too much for a player that may not help the Jets win the cup. Look at what Vegas traded for Tatar last season, and he barely played.


5.) 19 Feb 2019 22:31:54
Well that is the traditional price for rentals. This is a bit generous, the price is normally a first and a B prospect, plus maybe a conditional pick or another B/ C prospect.


6.) 20 Feb 2019 01:12:42
Stone is a lot better than the traditional rental type player too though, so may be able to bring a larger return.


7.) 20 Feb 2019 03:55:00
Take out Spacek and I’m cool with it


 

 

16 Feb 2019 17:36:51
WPG: Vesalainen, 1st Round Pick 2019, Harkins
OTT: Stone

Jets lineup:
Connor - Schiefele - Wheeler
Laine - Little - Stone
Perrault - Lowry - Tanev
Ehlers - Copp - Roslovic

Jaxon

1.) 16 Feb 2019 18:23:41
I hope the Jets don't trade any combination of Ves, Stanley, Niku, Roslovic and Samberg to get any UFA rental.


2.) 16 Feb 2019 19:41:34
Jets don’t need wingers. I know Ehlers isn’t having the strongest year, but is 4th line really the best spot for him?


3.) 16 Feb 2019 19:47:09
Wow! You are really coming up with some crazy overpays by the Jets lately.

I know Sens fans are fantasizing about getting that kind of return, but it won't happen.


4.) 16 Feb 2019 21:32:46
If a top propsect/ 1st round isn't involved you are not getting a top player as a rental. I legit do not understand why you jets fans can't wrap your finger around this. you aren't getting mark stone for a garbage package.


5.) 16 Feb 2019 23:24:20
It's probably because rentals never return a first round pick AND the teams top prospect, this will be no different. Ottawa may get the first, but not our top prospect as well. It's not hard to understand. Stanley, our 1st and Petan, is a pretty good offer. If not, Ottawa can try and get someone else to overpay or let him walk for nothing.


6.) 16 Feb 2019 23:27:29
notdelusional Teams that give up too much for a UFA rental will soon be sellers at the trade deadline. Stone is a good player but not worth what some of these trade proposals would have the Jets give up for him.


7.) 17 Feb 2019 02:16:48
I can tell you that roslovic is on the table in sens talk I'm not saying he will be part of it Burbank I do know he is in the conversation.


8.) 17 Feb 2019 05:12:28
I'm sure Ottawa is asking for Roslovic. There just isn't much of a chance that they will get him.


9.) 17 Feb 2019 16:13:24
If you aren’t willing to let go of a first round pick or top prospect then you aren’t getting a top rental in return.


 

 

15 Feb 2019 23:16:22
EDM: Puljujärvi
WPG: Petan, 2nd Round Pick 2019

Oilers get a speedy LW that has experience playing with McDavid at the World Juniors.

Jets can send Puljujärvi down the the AHL this year and then reunite him with Laine next year.

Jaxon

1.) 16 Feb 2019 06:08:51
This is starting to get tedious. Petan is a throwaway play that has 0 value and a 2nd alone doesn’t get you Pulj. Just stop with this crap already.


2.) 16 Feb 2019 16:15:34
The Jets would definitely have to add but on the Oilers Petan would be a top 6 player as he just hasn't been able to crack a deep Jets roster. Add one of Perreault, Copp, or Tanev and a 3rd might be a fairer return for Pully.


3.) 16 Feb 2019 17:41:49
Petan is a top 6 forward haha man.


4.) 16 Feb 2019 17:55:03
I would think Edmonton would want more, but Petan would be a good player for them. The Oilers need some young players that have been developed correctly, but just don't have a spot on their current team, so that the Oilers can't screw them up.


5.) 16 Feb 2019 21:29:59
Puljarvi isn’t exactly a top 6 player either. Saying Petan has zero value but Puljarvi is worth more than a 2nd+ is a little hypocritical. Puljarvi has 7 points more than Petan while playing 33 more games this year. So who has the better ppg?


 

 

 

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04 Feb 2019 21:39:38
Question... What is the real value of a 1st Round Pick this year? Let's say it's from a contending team and will end anywhere from 24-31.

Jaxon

1.) 05 Feb 2019 01:18:09
It's probably the hardest place to draft in all the rounds. Your still expected to get a good player but way more often then not you don't. there are still a few guys in this draft that should be around at 25 that I'd be interested in. But rebuilding teams love to get as many 1st and 2nd round picks as they can leading up to the draft so a first anywhere still has value to those teams even in a weak draft which this one isn't.


 

 

 

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20 Feb 2019 17:47:44
Does a team like Arizona or Edmonton want to go on the path of draft and develop? Probably not, they’ve both been doing that for how many years now. It’s time for them to move some picks for proven players.

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20 Feb 2019 15:50:32
How is he not? He’s 23, posted back to back 60+ point seasons and is under a great contract for another 6 years. If the Jets trade him for a Top 5 Pick it’s a gamble and they’re not guaranteed an impact player.

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15 Feb 2019 14:58:29
Not Canadian Stanley Cup favourites. Awful goalie situation still, the bottom 6 and bottom pairing defensmen aren’t good, maybe average at best.

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12 Feb 2019 21:33:47
I like it because the Jets lose Kulikov’s salary for next year and because this will help them this year too.

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04 Jan 2019 21:08:36
Perrault isn’t a cap dump, he’s a valuable asset. Either the Blues could keep him to use or trade him for more assets. Probably worth a 2nd Round Pick.

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