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14 Oct 2018 01:20:19
Toronto and New York Ranger trade.

Leafs: Jimmy Vesey and Brendan Smith and 1rd Round pick.

Rangers: Nylander and Marincin

Leafs then deal with Carolina.

Leafs: Brett Pesce

Hurricanes: Andreas Johnsson and Nikita Zaitsev

Vesey - Matthews- Kapanen
Marleau -Tavares - Marner
Hyman - Kadri - Brown
Lindholm - Gauthier - Ennis

Rielly - Brendan
Gardiner - Pesce
Hainsey - Ozhiganov

HockeyGod

1.) 14 Oct 2018 04:14:30
The rangers one is possible, but don’t think they do it. The hurricanes laugh historically.


2.) 14 Oct 2018 04:34:59
@unbiasedjim

Other than the fact that I don’t think New York can afford Nylander, is there any other reason why they wouldn’t make this trade? I mean, Vesey is nothing special, and Smith is an overaged defenseman who has missed large chunks of the last two seasons. The pick is what it is. Am I missing something?


3.) 14 Oct 2018 06:03:01
That pick looks like it has a great chance of being 1st overall.


4.) 14 Oct 2018 06:55:10
They would still have to win the lottery. It’s a real gamble. With teams like Ottawa, Arizona, NYI all looking like they are going to race to the bottom, it’s not a sure bet. And then we would still have to wait a year, maybe more, while the pick develops.

I’m not sure about this one from Leafs standpoint. I don’t know how I feel about trading Nylander for picks. Every draft has way more busts than winners. We’ve had a good run at the draft lately. Makes me think we are due for a dud.


5.) 14 Oct 2018 14:22:46
I just meant the 1st like Habby said.

With the trades involving Nylander and Canucks on here, everyone says they wouldn’t trade that 1st rounder either. The difference is Canucks already have a great young core coming up that Nylander would compliment (Peterson, Horvat, Boeser, Hughes and Juolevi) . Rangers don’t. Rangers making a trade like this, although only one 1st rounder not 2, reminds me of leafs with Kessel. Weren’t a good team, traded high picks for an RFA winger who had proven he was a 60 pt player, and the pick becomes Seguin who is as good or better, younger and cheaper for a few years.

So instead of adding Nylander to a young core, you risk what happened with the leafs which is you had a great 1st line winger and no one else around him. Even his Centreman (Bozak) was a 3rd line on good teams, 2nd centre on some. Teams getting Nylander should already have a foundation because he’s not the type of guy you Centre your rebuild around. Look at Kessel flourish after not being ‘the guy’.


 

 

14 Sep 2018 02:39:54
Toronto to sign and trade William Nylander.

NSH: William Nylander and Jake Gardiner

TOR: P.K. Subban and 2rd pk in 2019

HockeyGod

1.) 14 Sep 2018 06:27:42
I would think Nashville would want more than that. A UFA and a decent winger doesn't get you a top flight defenseman, especially if Nashville has to throw in a pick.


2.) 14 Sep 2018 07:18:59
The leafs can’t afford his contract. Nylander is a little above decent Joe, unless you consider the “Winnipeg untouchables”, Ehlers and Connor decent.


3.) 14 Sep 2018 12:39:34
Nylander= “ decent winger” lol what?


4.) 14 Sep 2018 14:56:03
Sorry guys. I didn't mean "decent" as an insult. I just meant that there is no way Nylander is the main piece if you're going after Subban. Just like Ehlers wouldn't be.


5.) 14 Sep 2018 16:02:58
Then what would be? Someoje like Laine? No way.


6.) 14 Sep 2018 17:20:34
In terms of value, ignoring team needs, I would say it would need to be a very good center or defenseman, plus picks or prospects depending on who the main piece is. Wingers just don't carry the value in general to land a top defenseman, simply because it is far easier to find a good winger than it is a top defenseman. Especially a right handed one.


7.) 14 Sep 2018 17:31:20
Subban isn’t the D I’d want to bring in anyway. Makes a ton of money, and I think drama follows him, whether it be his fault or not. Big personality and that rubs people the wrong way sometimes.

If we could get him cheap assets wise, and he didn’t make $9 mill, then it might be worth the risk but that just won’t happen. However to give up good assets, pay him that kind of money and risk dressing room issues, no thanks.


8.) 14 Sep 2018 18:06:53
I can understand that. I don't really see why the Leafs would want to target Subban. He would kill your salary cap moving forward.


9.) 14 Sep 2018 20:34:39
Nah, i relatively think a guy like subban wouldn't pull a laine/ matthews/ barzal type guy. I just can't see it. It would havr to be a Nylander/ Ehlers esque player.


10.) 14 Sep 2018 22:15:16
I think subban is in that ehlers/ Nylander class as well value wise, then add on the RHD premium over a winger and he probably gets a slightly better return. But definitely not laine/ matthews type players lol that’s just not going to happen. Both those guys could score 50 goals and are 20/ 21 years old. No way a really good 29 year old Dman making $9mill gets you that lol.


 

 

25 Nov 2015 18:20:11
Toronto and Columbus talk trade.

TOR: Ryan Johansen and Sergei Bobrovsky

COL:Dion Phaneuf, Jonathan Bernier and Tyler Bozak.

HockeyGod

1.) 25 Nov 2015 18:29:18
I am a leafs fan, but no way this will happen.


2.) 25 Nov 2015 19:00:29
Haha CBJ give up the best 2 players in the deal by a big margin. Not even close.


3.) 25 Nov 2015 20:31:33
Pinball? Is that you?


4.) 25 Nov 2015 21:56:48
What are you guys on? Easy no from Toronto Phaneufs a 50 goal scorer.


5.) 26 Nov 2015 17:08:07
Leafs would need add one thing of value, 2 1st rounders, Rielly


 

 

15 Oct 2015 19:48:25
Trade between Boston and Columbus in the works.



CLB: Zdeno Chara

BOS: Cody Goloubef, Daniel Zaar and 3rd pk 2016

HockeyGod

1.) 16 Oct 2015 00:50:39
This is a trade deadline deal I would assume, if Boston is hovering around a playoff spot then Chara would likely be dangled around the draft. Either way I highly doubt this is being seriously talked about but the value is there.


2.) 16 Oct 2015 02:10:08
columbus could definitely use big z


3.) 16 Oct 2015 08:16:38
I think it could work for both teams but Boston may need to take back a little salary in order for CBJ to agree due to Chara's high cap hit as his oldy-old age. He will help their D surely, but he is still expensive given his likely contribution. Not sure who BOS would have to take on tho, I didn't bother to look at CBJs roster just now.


4.) 16 Oct 2015 16:26:15
OIII @yacoiley84 Big Z is Zetterbergs name


5.) 16 Oct 2015 20:19:48
whatever.


6.) 16 Oct 2015 23:11:20
Pretty sure big Z would be Chara. Zetterberg is just Z.


7.) 17 Oct 2015 12:55:00
*cries in side*

well zetterberg will always be bigz to me *cries even more*.


 

 

06 Jul 2015 13:46:23
Toronto And Rangers to deal.

Ranger cannot pay Stepan Derek asking after the Buffalo signing of Ryan O'Reilly 7.5 million.

NYR: Tyler Bozak, James Reimer, Jake Gardiner 2016 3rd pk

TOR: Derek Stepan and Keith Yandle

Ranger are not going to resign Yandle.

HockeyGod

1.) 06 Jul 2015 14:42:43
your right they probably won't be able to resign them.but they could get a lot more for them


2.) 06 Jul 2015 14:46:54
Woah!! Way off! Holy cow. I was reading along and thinking that for just Stepan and still Ranger pass that up as 20 other teams would offer something useful to them and then you just added in Yandle! Think about what they traded away for Yandle. And you're offering a worse package than that arguably! Then you want Stepan as well. Just so so way off. Try again. Start with your 1st next year or Nylander or Kapanen at least. Besides, Leafs are rebuilding. What good are these two players on a 5 year rebuild team now??! Jesus.


3.) 06 Jul 2015 15:24:45
This is quite funny considering Reimer is going back after the Rangers signed Raanta


4.) 06 Jul 2015 15:59:18
Stepan Derek is 25 and Yandle is 28 which is still young enough to be part of a rebuild. Bozak is 28 and his stats show that his point production is equal or better than Stepan Derek not to mention his salary cap hit would be at least 2.5 to 3 million less. The Rangers can't sign Stepan Derek for the money he's going to ask for and there are few teams that will be able to sign him for those dollars $$$. Yandle did not perform for the Ranger as expected and will also ask for a raise from his current 2.9 million per which again the Ranger can't afford. The Ranger will need a decent back for Lundqvist and Gardiner need a fresh start.


5.) 06 Jul 2015 16:27:56
Derek Stepan* is going to salary arbitration if they cannot come to a deal, so he'll be back with the rangers either way next year.


6.) 06 Jul 2015 16:54:34
Again, you are so way off on value here. It's not even funny, well it sorta is I guess. Haha. Try again, add way more for those two players.


7.) 06 Jul 2015 16:55:06
Rangers only have 17 players under contracts with $10,675,000 left in cap space. If Derek Stepan goes arbitration then he would get in the range of 6.5 to 7 + for 2 years. The Rangers can't afford it!


8.) 06 Jul 2015 17:36:04
They would trade players to fit his contract. You build with Derek Stephan and Derrick Brassard as your top two centers. They would trade Yandle, or Boyle before him


9.) 06 Jul 2015 18:38:01
How about Kadri, Gardiner and Kasperi Kapanen to the Rangers for Derek Stepan and Chris Kreider?


10.) 06 Jul 2015 18:57:25
Exactly what jf12 said, you make room for a guy like stepan, not trade him for garbage.


11.) 06 Jul 2015 19:43:39
Why would they trade Yandle when he is ond of the cheapest guys on the team? Boyle should deffinently go tho.


12.) 07 Jul 2015 02:53:33
Now with that cap problem I don't see the Rangers going back to the final that Windows of opportunity is starting to close Now!

By the way you won't get much for Boyle or yandle

Boyle too old

Yandle contract is ending This year!
He won't resign for a cheaper price

Without those two guy there defense is weaker then at the start of last year!


13.) 07 Jul 2015 15:33:30
@Montrealsfinest. They could get a lot back for Yandle. Even with 1year left. He would still easily get a 1st & NHL ready Dman and prospect.


14.) 07 Jul 2015 20:26:35
Kinda agree with MF. Yandle would get a first but I wouldn't give much more.


15.) 08 Aug 2015 18:15:49
Why would the Rangers want 3 dusters and a 3rd for 2 elite players?


 

 

 

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06 Jul 2015 16:13:07
The Toronto Maple Leafs have signed forward Shawn Matthias to a one-year contract. Matthias, 26, scored 18 goals and nine assists in 78 games with the Vancouver Canucks in 2014-15.

HockeyGod

1.) 06 Jul 2015 16:24:42
Just wanna say as a Canucks fan and watching Mattias all year half his goals must've come in January. He seemed like a good player but you just never really noticed him out there. He would show signs of being a good player but it just wasn't there, may have been because he was playing without the puck more then with it. Wish him the best in T.O


2.) 06 Jul 2015 21:55:56
I'm happy more depth to trade at the trade deadline.


3.) 07 Jul 2015 02:57:03
How much money?


4.) 07 Jul 2015 15:06:27
@montrealfinest 2.3 million


 

 

 

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06 Jul 2015 16:55:06
Rangers only have 17 players under contracts with $10,675,000 left in cap space. If Derek Stepan goes arbitration then he would get in the range of 6.5 to 7 + for 2 years. The Rangers can't afford it!

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06 Jul 2015 15:59:18
Stepan Derek is 25 and Yandle is 28 which is still young enough to be part of a rebuild. Bozak is 28 and his stats show that his point production is equal or better than Stepan Derek not to mention his salary cap hit would be at least 2.5 to 3 million less. The Rangers can't sign Stepan Derek for the money he's going to ask for and there are few teams that will be able to sign him for those dollars $$$. Yandle did not perform for the Ranger as expected and will also ask for a raise from his current 2.9 million per which again the Ranger can't afford. The Ranger will need a decent back for Lundqvist and Gardiner need a fresh start.

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10 Jun 2015 16:19:05
The 10th overall belongs to the .Colorado Avalanche

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