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24 Jun 2018 20:43:15
Montreal: Pacioretty, McCarron, Rychel
Buffalo: O'Reilly
1.) 24 Jun 2018 21:23:46
Too much for oreilly.
2.) 24 Jun 2018 21:40:10
This is still pacioretty and 2 bottom 6 (at best) forwards. Worse than the patches/ Byron/ shaw one earlier. Byron is better than both these players but Shaw’s contract is worse than anyone else’s. Probably balances out.
3.) 24 Jun 2018 21:44:12
Stop with O'Reilly. we'll manage and we got like 6 or 7 centers prospects.
24 Jun 2018 00:17:17
Just a proposal, i know buffalo wanted young players or draft picks but value wise this still might be fair and help buffalo add good wingers to play with mittlestadt and eichel and now with dahlin they might compete
Montreal: pacioretty, byron, A. Shaw
Buffalo: ryan orielly
Pacioretty has a good valueand is an elite winger which eichel would love to play with and is affordable if they resign now after a rough year. Every team wants a paul byron a speedy hard working winger who puts up points and versatile, aslo cheap contract. Shaw is a bit of a cap dump to buffalo but his contract isn't huge and he still is young puts up points works hard and was a previous 50 pt player when healthy. All would be helpful to buffalos weak wingers.
Drouin-oreilly-gallagher
Domi-danault-lehkonen
Hudon-koktaniemi-scherbak
Deslauriers-DLR-carr
Mete-weber
Reilly-petry
Alzner-juulsen
If montreal wanted new fire power on the wings there's lots of great winger free agents available as well as they could sign stastny if they have cap room. Players on montreals lines are interchangeable
Realistic thoughts?
1.) 24 Jun 2018 01:54:37
Realistic thoughts is I can’t see buffalo accepting that.
2.) 24 Jun 2018 02:33:54
That’s not even close for O’Rielly. He should bring back a package similar to Dougie Hamilton.
3.) 24 Jun 2018 04:09:50
Realistically if you want a top tier center like ror the price is going to be painful. This seems like only the spare parts no one would miss.
4.) 24 Jun 2018 07:47:13
Only piece there that has real value is pacioretty and as good as he can be, he’s a scoring winger vs a 200 foot centre with 60+ pt capability. Need a top prospect or first round pick with patches to start the conversation. Not a 3rd liner and an overpaid 4th liner. Shaw is a terrible contract. That’s a negative at worst or a break even nothing if a team really needs a player like him. He holds zero value with that term and salary.
5.) 24 Jun 2018 15:22:45
I agree with Unbiased Jim thinking about it more he Should get a little bit more then Duchene got. O’Riellys 2way ability are up there with Bergeron and Kopitar.
6.) 24 Jun 2018 17:20:57
This is not the type of offer buffalo would want though.
7.) 24 Jun 2018 17:19:15
Oreilly two way game isn't to the level of those two guys. He is elite at two things face offs and on the power play. He is just good at everything else not elite and his offense at 5 on 5 could be considered a shade less then good. He has a 7 mil signing bonus owed to him on July 1st which teams looking to aquire him would sooner not pay. So either buff drops the asking price before then or they pay it on July 1st and trade him or they pay it and then he stays. anything can happen yet. I don't think they get the value duchene got though especially not before July 1st.
8.) 24 Jun 2018 18:52:08
He was the most trusted player defensively at the World Cup for team Canada was on the top PK that says something. It may look bad because the Sabres are horrible.
9.) 24 Jun 2018 19:20:56
He’s a really good defensive player who plays fairly physical, smart physical tho, not like running guys over. 61 pts And only had 2 PIMS all year (only penalty was playing the puck with a broken stick) That tells me he plays the game the right way and the way coaches want their top players to play. He’s worth a lot more than one year of a good winger and 2 bottom 6 players (one of which has a terrible contract)
10.) 24 Jun 2018 19:24:28
Especially when he would walk on the habs as their best centre by a mile and probably their best centre in over a decade. If you think he’s not ‘elite’ that’s fine, but that puts every person Montreal has tried to fill that spot with as average at best.
11.) 24 Jun 2018 19:43:05
damn people really overestimate the value of their player. O'Reilly is good but not worth all that. maybe for pacio and a draft pick like a 3rd round for O'Reilly and a 4th round draft pick! People think that we need it now. well the Habs drafted like 5 or 6 center potential center!
12.) 24 Jun 2018 20:51:37
He's real good but not elite and everyone montreal tried to play at center was even worse then him at it I would agree. he for sure is a better center then plekanec drouin daneult desharnais and galchenyuk. But he's not as good as kopitar or bergeron.
13.) 24 Jun 2018 21:02:04
But yeah vbbbvvbb he would probably be even better on a better team. Hasn't really played on a good team yet.
14.) 24 Jun 2018 21:21:46
O'Reilly is a very good player but I think that pacioretty has been undervalued. I'm sure if u looked at top goal s orders cumulutavely over last 5 years he is among the leaders.
15.) 24 Jun 2018 21:45:10
Patches is a good way to get the conversation started. Just saying those other 2 guys do nothing for sabres. Byron isn’t bad, fast and can score in the right situation, but any team can find 5 guys internally to do what shaw does for 20% of the money.
16.) 24 Jun 2018 21:45:10
Patches is a good way to get the conversation started. Just saying those other 2 guys do nothing for sabres. Byron isn’t bad, fast and can score in the right situation, but any team can find 5 guys internally to do what shaw does for 20% of the money.
17.) 24 Jun 2018 21:52:00
Ohh no I’m not saying he’s on the same tier as those players. O’Rielly, Couture, Mohnahan And Ryan Johanson are on the same level imo.
18.) 26 Jun 2018 02:26:22
O'Reilly is a great player but his cap hit lowers his value IMO. 7.8M is a lot for a fringe 1st liner/ 2nd liner.
09 Jun 2018 22:34:10
Mon: 3rd overall pick
Ari: 5th overall pick, prospect or another pick in 2018
Mon:Patcioretty
Cal:Brodie
Montreal drafts kotkaniemi, sign stastny or tavares
Brodie and Patch are very close in age and salary, montreal may add small cause patcioretty had a rough year and older.
Drouin-stastny/tavares-gallagher
Galchenyuk-kotkaniemi-lehkonen
Hudon-danault-scherbak
Byron-DLR-shaw
Brodie-weber
Mete-petry
Reilly-alzner/juulsen
Kotkaniemi is young and may not even make it but its possible he plays 3rd or 2nd line center he had 29 points against grown men in finlands highest league
1.) 10 Jun 2018 02:26:01
Bergevin will never trade pacioretty for brodie alone.
26 May 2018 19:42:40
Montreal: edm 2018 1st, 2018 2nd, 2019 2nd
Edmonton: Pacioretty, Andrew Shaw, Jordie Benn
Montreal gets rid of shaws contract and gets to draft Kotkaniemi as well as Zadina and they can trade or use all the second round picks they own now however.
Edmonton gets an easy 30 goal scorer/ 60 pt player in pacioretty to play with mcdavid, they get a mid 20s andrew shaw who puts up decent points and works hard when he's healthy, also they get jordie benn a good solid 5/6 defenseman to help there young d core and he is signed for cheap. Edmonton has the cap to do this as well.
Just like a base of the trade, the 2nds could be changed or montreal may hold some cap. Either team may give or take a little bit.
Montreal's Lines (sign stastny)
Drouin-stastny-gallagher
Galchenyuk-kotkaniemi-zadina
Hudon-danault-lehkonen
Byron-de la rose-scherbak
Mete-weber
Reilly-petry
Alzner-juulsen
Price
Kotkaniemi and zadina could be 2nd or 3rd line interchangeable depending on how good they are next year or if they both make it even right away. Thoughts?
1.) 26 May 2018 22:29:44
Edmonton tells you to never call back and hangs up.
2.) 26 May 2018 22:30:28
Jordie Benn is basically only a 4th round pick (like he was traded for).
3.) 26 May 2018 23:35:50
Habs fans, Please just stop with this kind of delusion. You're not getting a 1st and two 2nds from Edm for that.
4.) 27 May 2018 02:11:47
No from EDM. Also think that Kotkaniemi is a few yrs out from playing in the nhl.
5.) 27 May 2018 13:42:56
You guys say the same thing to every trade if you actually paid attention to hockey maybe you would understand. Its actually not a crazy trade at all. Stasty who is a few years older went for a first and a 4th at the deadline and nash got traded for spooner belesky 1st round ryan lindgren and a 7th both trafes were at the deadline and they are both older than pacioretty. Patches could easily get a first and second round pick on his own especially w his contract for amother year plus andrew shaw is like 26 and could probably get a second round pick if not with ben in there too they would get that other second or a third. With cap retentions involved to pretty normal trade.
6.) 28 May 2018 11:10:52
Value aside, there's a thing called a salary cap.
7.) 30 May 2018 12:32:22
Oilers have $5 million in cap space and their going to find room for these guys? Also Seattle coming and your giving up picks that would otherwise be protected?
22 Nov 2017 15:02:58
Tor: weber
Mtl: marner + 5th 2018
Edm: price + galchenyuk
Mtl: RNH + nurse
Vegas: MCcarron + davidson + 2nd 2018 + 4th 2018
Mtl: perron
Col: pacioretty
Mtl: barrie
Drouin RNH marner
Lehky danault gally
Hudon pleky perron
Scherbak shaw byron
Barrie alzner
Nurse petry
Mete benn/morrow/schlemko
1.) 22 Nov 2017 15:21:26
No from tprnon first one, no from not on second one and no again from not on third lne.
2.) 22 Nov 2017 15:21:44
And the Colorado one is a massive no from mtl.
3.) 22 Nov 2017 17:32:00
All 3 trades lopsided in montreals favour.
4.) 22 Nov 2017 18:23:28
Are you surprised Facelift? Lol.
27 May 2018 13:42:56
You guys say the same thing to every trade if you actually paid attention to hockey maybe you would understand. Its actually not a crazy trade at all. Stasty who is a few years older went for a first and a 4th at the deadline and nash got traded for spooner belesky 1st round ryan lindgren and a 7th both trafes were at the deadline and they are both older than pacioretty. Patches could easily get a first and second round pick on his own especially w his contract for amother year plus andrew shaw is like 26 and could probably get a second round pick if not with ben in there too they would get that other second or a third. With cap retentions involved to pretty normal trade.
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