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16 Aug 2017 19:15:12
Draisitl 8.5mil per 8 years

Habby

1.) 16 Aug 2017 21:38:04
Just saw that - good signing!


2.) 17 Aug 2017 02:43:13
too much imo. How many of those stats were bumped for him being mcwonderkids winger, i figured he's worth maybe 6 mill, he's getting paid as #1 center dollers and hasn't proven himself at that lvl n posistion.


3.) 17 Aug 2017 04:36:20
Good signing.!


4.) 17 Aug 2017 06:27:03
@Jww
I get what you're saying and I agree with you in a sense. Right now that contract looks bad because most of what we have seen of Draisaitl is as McDavid's winger. However, if he proves that he can produce the numbers he did last season or at least close to that on his own line for say 4-5 years of that contract, then in the long-term the contract will be a steal.

Remember, Draisaitl is still young and growing, his ceiling could be worth the contract he got now or maybe even more but by taking the hit early at a lower value might save the Oilers in the next few years if he were to test Free Agency and get 10 mill plus.

So overall it's a good signing for the long term but a little ugly in the short term unless Edmonton wins a cup in the next 3-4 years. That's my take on this.


5.) 17 Aug 2017 13:23:44
Datsyuk, that's fair but i don't like handing out 8 year contracts at what may be a players ceiling. Give him a bridge deal and go from there. he's making the same as Stamkos. He may be woth it if he maintains his production while centering his own line. Or if he stays on McDavids wing. But especially with the cap crunch they have next season would have benefited from a bridge deal.


6.) 17 Aug 2017 15:55:42
@jbs32

I agree with you, I would have much preferred this to be a bridge contract. However, with cap level uncertainty nowadays we are seeing players being more greedy in getting max value so they get paid well regardless of cap outcome.

Ideally the deal Draisaitl should have got would be something similar to Tavares's current contract where you're underpaying a superstar but shorter term.

However it's looking like nowadays that the Tavares contract is an anomaly.

So yes, I wish Draisaitl got a lower bridge deal. However, I also know that he got this deal now and if he proves his worth then in 4-5 years we could say this deal is a steal.


 

 

04 Aug 2017 01:22:24
Good!! Mike fisher has retired now please take Carrie underwood with you. I have no reason to ever see either of you ever again

Habby

1.) 04 Aug 2017 13:17:07
What's the issue with Mike Fisher? What has he ever done to be a nuisance? I'm honestly curious because he pretty much stays out of the limelight.


2.) 04 Aug 2017 15:29:11
Just didn't like him from his Ottawa days. Hopefully getting rid of Carrie underwood is the main thing.


3.) 04 Aug 2017 16:48:19
Mike Fisher was a class act. all around good guy in the game in hockey. and, in his prime, a pretty damn good player. can't see why no one would like him, as for Carrie Underwood, maybe not my style if music. but don't mind looking at her.


4.) 04 Aug 2017 17:05:46
Maybe it's just me then. oh we'll lol.


5.) 05 Aug 2017 11:09:58
It's just you habby.


 

 

30 Jul 2017 20:31:25
Galchenyuk pacioretty drouin 75
Daneult gallahger lehkonen 52
Plekanec byron hemsky 44
Shaw Mitchell hudon 30

Weber alzner 18
Petry,schlemko 11
Benn, streit 8

Potential line combos with realistic goal totals IMO.238 goals total from 18 of the 23 players signed. They only scored 226 total last season

Habby

1.) 31 Jul 2017 15:31:37
Shaw, Mitchell and Hudson might all be capable of putting up that goal total (10 each) as individuals but 30 goals from a fourth line (if they play 4th line all year) is hard to believe from a team that has historically had a hard time scoring with their top 3 lines. Offense has to start from somewhere, often your own zone and breakouts, and habs backend is so bad, I don't see the offense flourishing either.


2.) 31 Jul 2017 15:40:27
Ok Jim I forgot that you were such a magnificent hockey mind that you could tell whether or not a defense core could get the puck out of there own zone before ever seeing them play. they could get it out last season I see no reason why they wouldn't this year. plus if that defense can't do the job they can place Davidson jerabek or morrow in there.


3.) 31 Jul 2017 17:31:04
Habby their D is a lot different this year than last. Half their top 6 has been replaced. I think they'll be fine but i don't see them scoring a lot more goals than last year. Some of those projections seem high end of what's capable not what's realistic.


4.) 31 Jul 2017 20:09:41
I said "I don't see", I implying my opinion, not sayin. It's scientific. If you don't want ppls opinion, why post? Just say these things to yourself at home and then you will always be right.


5.) 31 Jul 2017 21:09:11
Jim you said " habs back end is so bad" that's what I was referring to. jbs which ones seem not realistic?


6.) 31 Jul 2017 21:38:35
Not bad Hab. I could see Top line getting more, and 4th getting less.
The D still isn't very impressive. going to need Weber to get 18 himself.
It all depends in who plays where injuries. , ect. I don't think youve have overvalued any. seems realistic.


7.) 31 Jul 2017 21:52:22
It's kind of a concesus on here that the habs D is worse this year and that MB has made questionable moves. Most of the criticism has come from habs fans so don't get so offended and attack people for making a statement that wasn't meant to offend, rather have a discussion. Take a breath, I'm a passionate fan too, but it's a game big guy.


8.) 01 Aug 2017 02:49:43
Exactly what Jim said.


9.) 01 Aug 2017 12:44:42
@Jim

I agree. I just feel like for the Habs, MB s*** the bed. His focus should have been on offense, not Karl Alzner. There was no need for Alzner. Let him go, and you have 4.8 million in cap + still enough dmen. Honestly, he should have got Radulov back. Idk, trading Beau for a third, signing Alzner and Streit, letting Radulov walk for nothing. He is a questionable gm.


10.) 01 Aug 2017 13:26:35
Both bottom 6 lines just seem high end. Like. Its within the realm of possibility they hit those. Not that far off. But it seems high expecting your 3rd liners on any team really to average 15 goals a piece and 4th liners 10. Maybe if they got more minutes and PP time just seems like a stretch in a standard bottom 6 role.


11.) 01 Aug 2017 14:50:52
Jbs byron scored 22 last year playing mostly 3rd line minutes so that leaves hemsky and plekanec only needing around 20 between them to match that total. also I highly doubt plekanec will be as snake bitten all year like he was last season. the habs usually roll 4 lines so all lines will get enough ice time to match these totals I think.


12.) 01 Aug 2017 15:21:24
Its a contract year for Plekanec, so I could see him having more incentive to get his usual 20. Gallagher, if healthy should get 20, maybe 25. I think Byron will probably go back to 10 to 15. its going to be interesting to see this year, lots of questions. does Danault continue to develop? What impact will Drouins playmaking abilities have. can Galchenyuk pull it all together. and who the hell is going to get the puck up ice to the forwards.
Who knows.


13.) 01 Aug 2017 22:52:20
22 was double Byrons previous career high. I wouldn't make that his expectation. Plecanec has been under 15 past 2 years. Could hit 20 but reduced minutes won't do him any favours. Gallagher could get 20-25 if he can stay healthy but that's a big if with the style he plays. He relies on driving the net for rebounds will his line mates be able to create shots well enough? Lehkonen showed some finish in his first season but can he create/ will he keep it up? That second line scored 41 last year you have them at "realistically" 52. I think its closer to top end than most likely. The top line is realistic. I could see them potentially exceeding that. Others seem close to top end that's all i'm saying.


14.) 02 Aug 2017 02:28:12
Yes jbs but gallahger had 10 goals last year he's got to be better then that this year if his hands are better. If so then 52 goals for those 3 guys is maybe slightly low too.


15.) 02 Aug 2017 13:28:10
Sure. But say Gallagher scores 20. they're still a goal behind last year if the other two don't regress. Maybe its just because of the way the lines are set but i don't see a creator on that line to help guys that can't create their own shot as much as theyd like. Maybe if Drouin was on that line instead and Gallagher or Lehkonen on top line i'd be more ok saying no regression and may be even improvement in some of these totals. Because Drouin can create out of nothing and really help his line.


16.) 05 Aug 2017 09:59:12
@TSS,
I Agree. I have nothing against Alzner, in fact I have made proposals on here hoping leafs got him. However leafs top 3 d are rielly, gardiner and Zaitsev. All young and very mobile guys that I think Alzner would compliment perfectly. Habs D is much less mobile now without sergachev (who would have made this team) beaulieu and Markov (old but was still effective for his age) . Alzner on that team is a tree in a forest. Not saying he's not a good player, just don't think he was the right fit. I'm glad you can allow people to have a discussion about it!

@JBS,
I Also agree, I never said those players aren't capable. He has Shaws line averaging 10 goals a piece. If you put shaw in front of the net on the PP like the Hawks did, he may very well have 15. But that's why I said 'if they play exclusively 4th line'. Also if a fourth liner is going to get PP time, that is time taken away from someone in your top 6, but their numbers didn't reflect that. Those were the points I was making before being censored lol as totals across the board I find the numbers high, not that each player can't have a good year and achieve it.


17.) 05 Aug 2017 10:54:49
Lol 😂.


18.) 05 Aug 2017 10:58:02
Jim I just like to see proof before I consider something is bad or not. I said last year that pittsburgh defence sucked too. It all depends on the system they play and if they develop chemistry or not. i don't mind people saying they think the defence is too slow or too whatever. But it still needs to be proven. Emelin and markov were both slow and were both turnover machines. Beaulieau had a little speed in his game but was terribly inconsistent. sergachev probably wasn't going to make the team this year. So I really don't miss anyone of them with regards to this years lineup. schlemko and alzner are both more mobile then markov and emelin and are both more solid defensively. the only issue I have at all is the lack of a good point man on the PP. Streit could posdibly fill this void and if not maybe jerabek could get the job done. I'm ok with the defence overall it's at least just as good as last years.


 

 

 

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15 Aug 2017 19:29:34
He could very we'll land a spot in the habs top 6. Most of these so called experts who are projecting the habs lineup are usually wrong anyway. Julien will decide who plays where and until he sets his lineup there are several spots up for grabs.

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13 Aug 2017 00:04:02
Edmonton better hurry up and sign him or they could lose him for less then that.

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10 Aug 2017 14:51:56
Edmonton should just sign draisitl and keep him.

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09 Aug 2017 05:09:00
The black alpaca those two guys are on the block? I wasn't aware of that lol.

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08 Aug 2017 21:07:06
Stastny is actually a pretty good player. But like a lot of players now he is grossly overpaid.

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