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17 Feb 2015 16:03:08
If you were Edmonton would you consider trading the first overall pick this year? Well its a proven track record that edmonton fails at developing their draft picks so if pittsburgh calls edmonton might give it a thought!
EDM - 1st overall 2015
PIT - Malkin
Malkin would improve Edmonton a great deal a winner who can teach a bunch of losers on how to win

1.) Malkin would improve things, but even if they CAN get him, they're better trading for multiple good pieces instead of just one amazing piece (because they have so many holes to fill).

May I suggest trading to Detroit for Abdelkader, Quincey, and one of McCollum, Gustavsson, or Mrazek (as well as a mid-round pick)?

2.) A couple of comments

1, I am not sure if Edmonton has a proven track record of failing to develop their picks. They are still a very young team and this process has yet to play out. If anything there biggest issue has been who they have drafted (too many small skilled forwards, but no top end d-men/goalies).

To go along with that point, the great lie with the tank model is that if you suck you will be rewarded with top end talent and perennial trips to the cup finals. The reality however is that you need to get very lucky AND you need other elements (trades, FA etc.) to compliment the draft.

2, I don't think trading the 1st pick is completely out of the question, though it all depends on the return and I don't know who is willing to pay what it would cost. With this said, why would Edmonton trade it huge cap hit. If you want add a nice big red cherry to the mismanagement sundae that is Edmonton, trade the 1st pick for Malkin.

3.) This would not be a deadline deal or else edmonton would have to add huge as much as people would say it could be McDavid there's a good chance it won't be so pitts would be taking a huge chance and edmonton would have to pay for that

If they got the first overall i'm sure they would have to add as well as Malkin is a for sure thing and he's one of the best centers in the league. As much as McDavid is a for sure thing there's always a chance it just doesn't work out as well as you hope with young prospects.

27 Jan 2015 18:36:10
Dallas wants in on the playoffs real bad and Cody Fransen is the answer to that he is the best right handed dman on the market and it would more then likely push them into the playoffs The Leafs should ask for the moon
TML - Fransen
DAL - 1st 2015, 3rd 2016

1.) The Leafs could ask for the moon if they want to, that doesn't mean they're going to get it

2.) 27 Jan 2015 20:41:56
Lol, isn't he a UFA?

Wouldnt make more sense for Dallas to offer Phoenix the same thing for Yandle, considering he has 1 more year after this one.

3.) @ace

You're way off if you think ARZ would trade Yandle for that. Word is they want a boat load. With this said, it makes little sense for DAL to give up a 1st given that they are unlikely to go deep.

IMO, Franson's value will be heavily based on the availability of similarly skilled d-men, with a reasonable cap hit (there aren't many) and the numbers of teams looking for those players(which seems to be quite a few). I don't think a 1st is out of the question and if a bidding war starts, it may take an extra pick to get him. But it will be a top 4 team paying that price.

22 Jan 2015 02:18:51
Have read numerous reports that the Leafs have turned their attention to Joe Pavalski. Remember way back to 2014 Olympics when Pavalski and Kessel created magic on the ice well the Leafs certainly did not forget let's face facts signing Bozak to that extension was plain stupid just because Bozak and Kessel are best buds well that's not the way to run a hockey team time to make some changes
TOR - Kadri, Reilly, 1st 2016
SJS - Pavalski

TOR - Phaenuf, Bozak
COL - O'Reilly

1.) So you're saying Joe Pavelski is worth 3 first rounders?! Sorry dude I don't think so

2.) No from Col

3.) Bad trade for toronto. We have done this countless times. We start to suck so we trade away they only good pieces we have drafted in order to temporarily appear as if we fixed something. This team needs to fix its foundation before we go and make trades like this. If we were more of a contender I would be all for it but the only thing we are contending for is connor mcdavid

4.) Well Pavelski is a 40 goal scorer and on pace to do it again. When you look at what an old St Lous got. Sharks would expect 3 first rounders for Pavs

5.) I think SJS and Col both accept but it leaves Tor without two of there top d.

6.) Yeah they would have the worst defense in the League if they do those trades!

7.) 'did not forget let's face facts signing Bozak to that extension was plain stupid just because Bozak and Kessel are best buds well that's not the way to run a hockey team time to make some changes' . but they should trade for Pavalski because him and Kessel are best buds?

21 Jan 2015 23:54:26
You heard it here first this trade will happen

COL - Phaenuf, 3rd 2015
TOR - O'Reilly

1.) Leafs add.
Number 3 d-man who is paid like a number 1 for a 23 yrs old guy who still has the potential to become a 1st line center. Even if they really need defense, leafs pass.

2.) LOOOL what source it seems like a good deal but don't just come here acting like its going to happen. But I agree that Phanuef should be traded 100%

3.) Bill waters did tweet that this is what it would take. O'reilly is a ufa after next season. That will lower his trade value

4.) Cd1 your valuations are way off, especially about Phaneuf (though he is, in a vacuum, "overpaid").

But what makes your comment interesting is the idea of ROR becoming a #1 C, which is what would be expected of him if he were traded to TO. The leafs would probably re-sign him, 8 years 7 million/year and of course, he would under perform and be constantly ridiculed.

In other words, putting the expectation that he will become a #1 C in this market is setting him up for failure.

16 Jan 2015 21:16:32
Finally, the Leafs are learning how to loose hockey games! Over the past decade they just could not figure out to be a bad hockey team and certainly could not figure out how to be a good hockey team. So here is their chance don't blow this opportunity! McDavid is on the line here. This draft is the deepest it has been in years blow this team up and build thru the strongest draft in years
TOR - Kessel, Phaenuf, Bozak
COL - ROR, 1st 2015
With this trade I am sure the Leafs can finish dead last and draft McDavid. What is the point in finishing 8 points out of a playoff spot and drafting 10th overall only goal don't win a game going forward

1.) 17 Jan 2015 04:46:45
honestly, stop with all these "blow up the leafs" posts, its not happening now. IF it does happen it'll be in the offseason and even then, I doubt kessel and bozak go, they aren't the problem.

2.) Col doesn't want phan that pylon and no cap room

3.) Avs would take this in a heartbeat.

Unfortunately it's not at all realistic. They don't have the cap to support all 3 and Toronto wouldn't trade them all to one team.

4.) Kessel is worth more than ror and the aves 1st

5.) Agreed that is not enough for Phil but I do agree that the leafs should tank the rest of the way

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11 Feb 2015 23:43:45
You read it here first if McDavid is drafted by one of Edmonton, Buffalo, or Carolina he will not report! Be cautious above mentioned teams he could very well pull a Lindros. If he does such a thing does that not affect his trade value in a negative way? let's face facts the NHL wants McDavid playing for the Leafs simply because of marketing capabilities. So if the NHL puts in a fix during draft lottery (who knows) its been done before look for the number one pick to be traded and acquired by the Leafs

1.) Bettman cares about money and building hockey in the states. If it's fixed Arizona will get it because it's one of the few ways to stir up enough interest to keep hockey in the desert like Bettman wants. Win or lose toronto will bring in roughly the same revenue so Bettman really couldn't care less where they're picking in the draft they'll sell out no matter what

2.) 1. If mcdavid is drafted by one of those 3, he will report. If you truly believe he won't, you're a moron.

2. Wouldn't be at all surprised if the leafs win the draft because they've been intentionally crashing to earth all 2015. Pretty pathetic.

3.) 12 Feb 2015 08:15:41
Huzzah, chirp. so right.

4.) This. And where did you get that from GOLEAFSGO?

5.) Yet the oilers are still second last in the league

6.) Honestly believe the Leafs or Yotes are going to be picking 1st. Leafs won't win the draft but I wouldn't be surprised if Nonis made a huge trade for 1st overall. Yotes are right near the bottom and I see them continuing to do terrible once you trade away guys like Vermette, Hanzal, Mikaleck, and Yandle.

7.) @chuck Oilers are playing around 0.500 hockey since that person Eakins was fired (SWARM!). They're on the way to playing themselves out of contention for Mc or E.
Meanwhile the leafs fired their coach while still in playoff contention and have been ridiculously and oddly bad ever since, taking a quick and convenient slide down the standings. Tough to compare the two.

8.) Who chuck I wasn't aware that their was a chuck in the this discussion let alone on this thread.

9.) Charles = chuck, like robert = bob or william = bill

10.) Thanks, Ovie. Pretty sure he got it, but was just avoiding posting an attempt at a legit response because he didn't have a good one.

11.) No Charles = Professor X, Chucky = Chuck

12.) Further proof, as he replies and it's still just filler.

20 Jan 2015 02:12:02
It is very clear what the Leafs have to do going forward keep on loosing games and they are doing a great job of it! They actually forgot how to score goals that's okay because before you know every team behind you slowly catches up to you don't look now even Edmonton Carolina and Buffalo are sure to catch the Leafs. don't even think about putting a win streak together its too late play your games for the draft this summer McDavid would certainly look great centering Kessel and sure you can try and land O'Reilly if you want but I would wait for the summer you don't want to make the trade and become a better team I honestly believe Carlisle was fired because he was told to lose games and he refused Horacek has no prob with it

1.) 20 Jan 2015 04:09:24
saying any coach is playing to lose is 100% wrong. say the leafs go 2-30-4 the rest of the way or wtv you're suggesting, do you think horachek ad his staff will be in toronto or anywhere in the NHL next year? the answer is no, they won't even be considered, they'll be back in juniors, AHL, ECHL or wherever, but they won't be getting the money and luxuries associated with an NHL gig. so no, just like players, coaches will not lose on purpose.

2.) I agree 100% with Shankar and the timing really doesn't make sense bc they are so far ahead of the bottom feeders, it's next to impossible to catch them.

Further more, Carlyle was fired bc that's the easiest move to make for a team that is struggling. Horacek was the easiest guy to hire bc he has NHL head coaching experience. It really is that simple.

3.) Even if they stink this year, these guys are professional athletes and very competitive and proud , I doubt they're actually playing to lose.

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You must be dreaming! I am a huge Leaf fan and I honestly can say we all wish these trades could in our wildest dreams come true

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