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18 Jan 2019 17:24:49
What about this?

Oilers: JP + Spooner + Jones + 1st Rd pick
Canes: Ferland + Hamilton

Then

Oilers: 2nd round pk + marody
Rangers: Hayes

Then send Manning to minors.
Send yam to the minors.
Do not activate Sekera until playoffs start.

Drai - MC - Chaison
Ferland - RNH - Khaira
Lucic - Hayes - Daves
Rieder - Brodziak- Kassian

Nurse - Hamilton
Klefbom- Larson
Russel - Benning / Petrovic
(Sekera when ready)

Talbot
Koskinen.

EdmOil

1.) 18 Jan 2019 17:54:28
Oilers take on way too much cap. So impossible.


2.) 18 Jan 2019 22:12:50
They could trade away Talbot. Save on cap.


3.) 18 Jan 2019 22:17:14
At this time i don't think anyone is going to take spooner.


4.) 18 Jan 2019 23:43:11
Ferland is a UFA. Canes are getting PJ. So spooner is there because they are getting PJ.


 

 

28 Dec 2018 21:10:53
Penguins need toughness. They need it to protect their players from Wilson.
They threw away a 1st rd pick for Reeves.

What about this?
Oilers: Lucic (retaining 1 m for this season and then retaining 50% for the remainder of his term)
Penguins: Brassard (5m)

EdmOil

1.) 28 Dec 2018 23:01:50
Amount retained must be the same every year.


2.) 28 Dec 2018 23:06:27
Then the pens would need a 3rd line center again. So the deal would then be brassard + whatever they give up for 3rd line center for an underachieving lucic. I don't think they to worry too much about Wilson chances are he will be suspended again soon anyway lol.


3.) 28 Dec 2018 23:54:00
Unless Crosby can turn him back into a 25 goal power forward menace like he was in Boston. ( which I don't think he can) . why not jus look in the AHL for a tough guy. he will he 6 to 7 hundred thousand . Instead of 6 mill. even with the Oil taking cap. jus, there are better options out there fo a tough guy.

It's sad. cause At one point Lucic was a lot more than a scary physical force. he was a top line guy. I don't failt Chiarelli for the signing. maybe the term. but. at one point the guy was well worth 6M.


4.) 29 Dec 2018 01:52:38
Honestly this is terrible Brassard is good and Lucic is beer league journeyman being payed 6 million to let the other team walk around him and score.


5.) 29 Dec 2018 01:54:24
Even if you retain, i don't know if you get an asset for Lucic. Brassard is still servicable. Also, i don't think retention works that way, has to be 1mil or 50% throughout the whole term.


6.) 29 Dec 2018 03:47:31
That Reaves trade is a bit of a head scratcher. Not sure what Pens we’re thinking on that one. Blues scored Kostin out of the deal. He has real potential that kid. Pens lacking toughness isn’t such a big deal. They have Oleksiak. And enforcers are a dime a dozen. Pittsburgh has a damn good team still. I just hope Leafs can be a team like them in their prime.


7.) 30 Dec 2018 00:02:12
Yeah there is a huge difference between olesiak and Reaves. Reaves is the toughest fighter who can skate and put up points. 7 goals 5 assists 12 points. On pace for 14g 10a 24 points. Not bad for a 3rd, 4th line enforcer.


8.) 30 Dec 2018 03:57:01
@reswing

And Oleksiak has 4g, 7a for 11 points and is on pace for 8 goals and 22 points. Not bad for a second line defensenan.

Could just be coincidence, but Reaves was traded very shortly after Pens acquired Oleksiak.


9.) 31 Dec 2018 22:24:05
And he just got knocked out by Tom Wilson, where Reaves has beat the shot out if Wilson and knocked his but down multiple times. Pens effed up when they traded reaves.


 

 

15 Dec 2018 20:50:09
This is something that I would love to see happen as an oilers fan. At least, are the trades fair?

Oilers: Puljujarvi + Lucic
Canes: Ferland (RFA) and Canes have a cap space and get a strong prospect to play with Aho and Teravinen

Oilers: 1st rd pk 2019 + 2nd rd pk 2020 + Bear + Benson
Blues: Parayko (available)

Oilers: Talbot
Flyers: Simmonds
Both are UFAs. A risk Flyers take in order to get a good Goalie.

Oilers would have to trade someone like Benning for a backup goalie.


Line up:
Drai + McDavid + Chaison
Ferland + RNH + Simmonds
Rieder + Spooner + Caggiula
Khaira + Brodziak + Kassian
Zykov + Rattie

Klefbom + Larson
Nurse + Parayko
Sekera + Russel
Gravel

Koskinen
Backup.

EdmOil

1.) 15 Dec 2018 21:37:23
Not a chance a back up goalie gets you Simmonds, even if they are both going to be ufa Simmonds has much more value right now than talbot.


2.) 15 Dec 2018 22:53:16
I bet you’d love to have these trades happen. What about the fans for the other teams. Do you think they’d want to see these happen too?


3.) 16 Dec 2018 03:09:14
Either Pulj is massively overrated here or the negative value of Lucic contract is massively underestimated.


4.) 16 Dec 2018 04:06:46
LeafsGM:
How do the other teams lose the trades?
1. The Canes get a pretty good prospect in Puljujarvi. He is only 20 years old. If he turns out to be what is expected, the Canes win this trade.
2. As a leafs fan, what would it look like if the leafs wanted Parayko? I mentioned the oilers give up a 1st and 2nd and 2 B prospects. That’s a good return.
3. Flyers need a goalie. Talbot could splice this issue for them.


5.) 16 Dec 2018 07:52:51
I think the canes want immediate help on forward, not a what if? The trade for Parayko seems fair from what I know of the players. Why would Edmonton want to add more slow, physical payers? I love Simmonds and would like him on the leafs big time, but Edmonton doesn’t need more grit while losing a pretty good goalie.


6.) 16 Dec 2018 13:23:42
2 things:
1) as I have explained to several leaf fans quantity doesn't equal quality. That's a sheet offer and does nothing for blues. You want to get parayko. Think drais. If not move along.

2) with petro out parayko is looking amazing playing 28 mins a night. He has finally found confidence in his slap shot and has been blasting it by the goalies.

I'm sure a few people will disagree.


7.) 16 Dec 2018 13:24:26
Parayko return should be a A-prospect +2 first round pick (16 to 25 range) + roster player.


8.) 16 Dec 2018 13:34:08
Again Colt, you will be horribly disappointed if Parayko gets traded cause your not getting a Draisatl type player.


9.) 16 Dec 2018 16:55:50
Lol. Get read to be proven wrong again Colt. You're not getting Drai for Parayko.
You're going to look hair as bad as the Shattenkirk deal then disappear for a while again.


10.) 16 Dec 2018 17:53:36
Oilers win all of these. The Simmonds one is just awful. No one pays value for a goalie who has lost confidence and lost his own net on his own team. They’re definitely not giving up their best trade chip for him. Philly has 6 goalies with talent and no confidence lol they don’t need to pay for another.

Also pulijarvi (or something very similar) is the cost to dump Lucic’s contract. So essentially you are getting 25 year old physical Ferland, who had a career year last year and is on pace to easily pass that production this season, for free lol that’s why it’s bad for other teams.


11.) 16 Dec 2018 17:58:15
There is no reason to trade parayko. defiantly not a quantity for quality. I understand end fans don't trade drais. Well we don't trade parayko. A 1st 2nd and crap prospects are a no go.

Once again shattenkirk may have not gotten what I wanted but he got enough. I didn't hide afterwards. The pick we got was uses in getting schenn it worked out.

Still not getting parayko for that sheet.


12.) 17 Dec 2018 19:32:11
Who was the real winner of the Shattenkirk trade?
This web site.


 

 

13 Dec 2018 17:50:45
Would this trade work?
Oilers: Lucic + Caggiula or Spooner (1M retained)
Bruins: Backes
Both Lucic and Backes are struggling. Both have the same cap, but Lucic has 2 extra years on his contract.
Backes did well under Hitchcock. Lucic did well on the Bruins.
Now, Bruins need more scoring. Their top line is basically it. So, would Caggiula be enough for the extra 2 years on Lucic’s contract? Or Is Spooner, an ex-Bruins, with 1 m salary retained good enough?
Backes would be good for a third line centreman for the oilers.

EdmOil

1.) 13 Dec 2018 19:43:41
I see the logic but there’s nobody in the proposal to do the scoring you say the Bruins need.


2.) 13 Dec 2018 20:34:51
Caggiula had a 13 goal year last season and it wasn’t a full season.
This season, 10 pts in 23 games.
He could help a team with secondary scoring.


3.) 13 Dec 2018 22:15:39
I guess. The value seems fair considering Backes term is shorter than Lucic’s.


4.) 13 Dec 2018 23:14:15
Oilers also need that secondary scoring as well lol so I’d think they’d hang onto Caggiula especially since he chose to sign here after college.
However ya I posted something similar to this before and as I think it has something potential to happen I bet Boston probably chooses to keep Backes rather than making this trade based solely on the fact Lucic has 2 more years but 🤷🏼‍♂️.


 

 

10 Dec 2018 15:40:46
Oilers are doing fine now, but they need to score more. They need to get rid of lucic’s contract. It’s a waste of space.

Oilers: Lucic + Puljujarvi + 1st rd pk 2019 + 2nd rd pk 2020 + B Prospect

Sens: Duchene + Stone (Both UFAs and probably won’t sign with the Sens. Oilers sign them to 7 m over 6 yrs.

EdmOil

1.) 10 Dec 2018 16:36:36
Sens wouldn't do this.


2.) 10 Dec 2018 17:02:12
come on yup, you know other teams that are doing bad love to take on dead weight contracts lol .


3.) 10 Dec 2018 17:53:27
Take lucic out and add bouchard and at least then the Sens might actually speak to you.


4.) 10 Dec 2018 18:54:31
Can Oiler’s even afford to do this? Incoming salary is significantly higher than outgoing, and Oilers are pretty tight against the cap right now.


5.) 10 Dec 2018 20:50:53
Yes leafsgm it wouldn't work on many levels.


6.) 11 Dec 2018 00:16:42
Hahahahaha

Nope

Sens signing both, already in talks, keep dreaming

Let's counter with oils get those 2, Ceci, and dzingle for nuge, Bouchard, nurse, a 2nd, and 2 1sts

Keeps chemistry with players involved plus gives value to get value

Ottawa gets the defence needed, plus a new top center, and a few picks to fall back on, it also keeps the rebuild going.

Edmonton gets 2 of the best 2 way forwards in the game plus in dzingle they get a speedy forward to pair with McDavid and if that don't work he still has chemistry with stone and Duchene to fall back on, Edmonton also gets a top 4 dman back.


7.) 11 Dec 2018 21:17:35
Why would anybody deal with the oilers. They won't be able to sign everyone. The have a serious problem with Mcdavid and he's going to want more.


 

 

 

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09 Dec 2018 23:37:22
Far fetched, but is this fair?
Lucic has to agree to this of course and he won’t most likely, but a guy can dream. As long as Lucic is on the team with that cap space, oilers will suffer with their scoring.

Oilers: Lucic + Puljujarvi + 1st rd pk 2019 + 2nd rd pk 2020 + B Prospect like Benson

Sens: Duchene + Stone
Both UFA and probably won’t sign in Ottawa

Oilers sign each to 7 m over 6 years

Then
Oilers: Benning + 4th rd pk
Panthers: Petrovic (UFA)

Petrovic would really help Nurse on the 2n pairing and stabilize things there.

EdmOil

1.) 10 Dec 2018 00:27:09
I think if Ottawa traded them in seperate deals they could do better.


2.) 10 Dec 2018 01:55:30
I think both guys will get more than 7M per . somewhere between 8 and 9 I think.


3.) 10 Dec 2018 02:58:15
I see an offer that would probably be light for duchene and stone alone, let alone adding Lucic’s albatross contract to it.

Thw cost of moving Lucic is probably a first plus. maybe even a first and a second. If that’s the case you’re essentially trading Pool Party and Benson for Stone and Duchene. That’s bad. Like Rambo bad, but flipped to favor the other team and not the Sens.


4.) 10 Dec 2018 03:59:12
Dont ask me why but i feel like stone will sign with ottawa. I would think the oilers would have to give a little more and i agree with habby they would probably be better trading them separately. Duchenne will probably go for crazy money i believe more then 7m for sure.
Still intressting proposal though.


5.) 10 Dec 2018 14:51:01
@isthatright. I have a feeling he will stay too. A few months ago, not a chance. But I’m starting to think he will. However, like you say, it won’t be for $7 mill. With the money being thrown around these days, I think he will get more. His offensive numbers are good, not great but he plays such a complete game, reminds me of a Ryan O’Reilly type player (who has been making $7.5 for years, although a centre) .


 

 

 

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18 Jan 2019 23:43:11
Ferland is a UFA. Canes are getting PJ. So spooner is there because they are getting PJ.

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18 Jan 2019 22:12:50
They could trade away Talbot. Save on cap.

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16 Dec 2018 04:06:46
LeafsGM:
How do the other teams lose the trades?
1. The Canes get a pretty good prospect in Puljujarvi. He is only 20 years old. If he turns out to be what is expected, the Canes win this trade.
2. As a leafs fan, what would it look like if the leafs wanted Parayko? I mentioned the oilers give up a 1st and 2nd and 2 B prospects. That’s a good return.
3. Flyers need a goalie. Talbot could splice this issue for them.

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13 Dec 2018 21:12:28
No way the Bruins do this!

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13 Dec 2018 20:34:51
Caggiula had a 13 goal year last season and it wasn’t a full season.
This season, 10 pts in 23 games.
He could help a team with secondary scoring.

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