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19 Nov 2018 21:41:39
Ok, I know this post may be a bit out there, but let's see what everyone thinks.
Toronto Matthew Tkachuk
Calgary William Nylander
Maybe Toronto adds
Tkachuk gets to play with Marner again and Toronto get some grit. Calgary gets a streaky goal scorer and setup man.
Both teams win as they trade outside of their conference.
And go.
1.) 19 Nov 2018 21:48:41
I think Calgary would say no. They love Tkuchuk there.
2.) 19 Nov 2018 21:52:13
i don't think calgary trades and elc for a guy who wants 8 million.
3.) 19 Nov 2018 22:04:21
I agree with yup, think Calgary values a gritty younger forward more than another sniper winger.
4.) 19 Nov 2018 23:19:40
Fair trade but Tkachuk is already their drafted player and has no contract disputes.
5.) 19 Nov 2018 23:20:19
If Nylander were toget traded to Calgary i wouldn't mind seeing Bennett come the other way. Love his game and I think there is untapped offense there. Toronto would have to get more but would love to see it.
My lines would be
Bennett Matthews Brown
Hyman Tavares Marner
Marleau Kadri Kapanen
Johnsson Lindholm Leivo.
6.) 19 Nov 2018 23:52:32
Don't think calgary would agree to this. Tkachuk is a solid compliment to the top-heavy offensive line of Gaudreau/ Monahan/ Lindholm, and can put up 60 points just as well as Nylander. and he has a snarl aspect to him.
Imagine Tkachuk and Kadri on the same team tho. Lmao, it would be so fun.
7.) 20 Nov 2018 00:18:40
Lol nylander has more value come on guys. He’s a possible 80-100’ point player. Bennett alone does not get you willy.
8.) 20 Nov 2018 02:59:12
Read the entire post McLarty. I daid Calgary would need to add more.
9.) 20 Nov 2018 06:34:15
Tkachuk is over a point a game this season. He might have better production over his career than Nylander. I don’t think Toronto would think twice while Calgary would never do it. Especially now they have Lindholm who has fit nice on that top line and Neal as right wingers.
10.) 20 Nov 2018 12:11:55
I’d do it for sure. He adds something we don’t have a lot of and already played with Matthews in the past. Nylander was also born in Calgary while his dad played there. But I don’t think flames would want to do it and certainly wouldn’t pay Nylander more than Johnny and monahan.
11.) 20 Nov 2018 12:12:23
Lmao fully signed tkechuck who's actually better than unsigned don't want to stay Nylander? Hahaha good one, Toronto clearly adds at least a 1st and a high end prospect maybe more. Nylander has next to no value right now and can be picked up a lot cheaper than that, just ask Hoffman.
12.) 20 Nov 2018 12:13:56
I like that base for a deal but toronto adds, a 1st round pick and/ or a prospect maybe? i like your points though. as others stated though i think calgary values the grit more. though if toronto added and this deal went through a gudreau/ monahan/ nylander combo would be interesting to watch.
13.) 20 Nov 2018 13:59:51
@rambo, Tkachuk is exactly “fully signedâ€. He’s an RFA in a few months looking for a huge raise too lol I agree the leafs add, I said that right away but you make it sound like tkachuk has a 5 year deal at good money. He could be in the exact situation Nylander is in a few months.
14.) 20 Nov 2018 14:39:18
Rambo setting himself up for failure and embarrassment again.
If Nylander gets traded (and if he does, it will be for way more than what Hoffman returned) are you going to bury your head in the sand for four months like you did after the Karlsson trade?
15.) 20 Nov 2018 16:24:00
Unsportsmanlike, how do you figure he gets more than Hoffman? I mean maybe a slight bit but not enough to be anything big.
Hoffman had the karlsson situation working against him which is easily countered by Nylander greed and no sense of loyalty or want to do a bridge deal.
Nylander remains unsigned and is likely to bolt for Europe while Hoffman still had a few years left on a favourable contract worth under 5 million.
They are virtually doing the same thing for their teams just Nylander had Matthews to feed off of, take that away and Hoffman has edge.
Only thing Nylander has over Hoffman is his age.
Unless a mirical happens you'll be disappointed this time but that don't suprise me seeing how you people have always undervalued sens players and overvalued their counterparts on different teams. I forgot that on this site you actually have to down play skill and talent when it's wearing a sens Uniform right?
16.) 20 Nov 2018 17:51:50
Yeuuuup it's that old anti-Sens conspiracy on this site. That's totally it. Has nothing to do with you being out to lunch when it comes to making assessments.
Do you not ever stop to put two and two together, that maybe we are not undervaluing Sens players, as both Karlsson and Hoffman ended up being traded for packages that were more or less in-line with what we, the "people who have always undervalued sens players" on this site were saying they would be traded for, and nowhere near your comically lofty and unrealistic expectations?
No. Of course you don't.
The Sens hands were tied with Hoffman. It had nothing to do with talent (which Hoffman had/ has plenty of) . That's why he was traded for peanuts (something pretty much everyone on this site saw coming, excluding you) . The Leafs don't have to trade Nylander. They can afford to let him sit for the season. Ideal? Certainly not. But far better than Dubas caving and overpaying him or trading him for peanuts (especially for a team that's 1 point out of first even without their best player) .
I'm not waiting for a "mirical" trade because I could care less. He'll probably end up signing a bridge deal at the last minute anyways. But every proposed trade from any respected writer in the hockey universe looks a lot better than what Hoffman returned, for logical reasons. You should read more (or at least some) .
17.) 21 Nov 2018 04:26:59
You do realize that Hoffman situation and Nylander contract status or lack thereof virtually cancel each other out right?
Leafs can't afford to sit on him either like you seem to think, NHL teams are not the only threat the Leafs need to worry about. He could very easily sign with another league and they would be able to do exactly nothing about it. So yeah Leafs hands are just as tied as sens were wheather you're smart enough to see it or not.
So yeah it's pretty obvious in all of your posts that you're biased against Ottawa and can't make a fair assessment of trade value.
18.) 21 Nov 2018 18:31:35
No, they "virtually" don't. Hoffman needed to go. Nylander does not. Nylander has not created any bad blood in the dressing room and is liked by his team mates.
As I explained in a response to your earlier nonsensical ramblings on this topic, while Nylander is free to sign in Europe he would be taking a significant pay cut in doing so versus what the Leafs are offering him.
Radulov was the highest paid player in KHL history. He made $5.75 mln a year. Kovalchuk made $4.4 mln a year. KHL GM's have since reigned in spending.
NHL teams are welcome to sign Nylander to an offer sheet. But for the money he is looking for, it is going to cost them four first round picks. Dubas likely accepts that with a smile on his face.
So it's pretty obvious that you can't make a fair assessment of reality. Maybe you're biased against facts.
School's out kiddo.
04 Oct 2018 17:44:12
Zach Weirinski and a 2nd round pick
For William Nylander.
Thoughts?
1.) 04 Oct 2018 18:31:20
I could get behind that deal. Don’t think many outside leaf nation will appreciate it lol.
2.) 04 Oct 2018 19:19:40
Lmao Leafs would be the ones adding heartly, not CBJ.
3.) 04 Oct 2018 19:20:44
Even if CLB wanted to trade Werenski then the pick would be added to Nylander not Werenski. But I didn't believe CLB should or are thinking about reading Werenski.
Jones and Werenski should be untouchable.
4.) 04 Oct 2018 21:10:17
Like Johanssen and Jones. One for one! Nylander for Werenski!
5.) 04 Oct 2018 21:23:33
i agree wereniskis (probably spelt wrong) is worth more than nyolander.
6.) 04 Oct 2018 21:32:25
@Ricky, pretty similar except CBJ knows they came out way on top for that one and don’t want to be on the wrong end of one now.
7.) 04 Oct 2018 23:17:50
Werenski would make Reilly expendable. We could trade Reilly in two years before his NTC kicks in. Depending on what Werenski signs for, would be a real cost saving manoeuvre.
8.) 05 Oct 2018 05:26:11
Rielly makes $5mill. If werenski stays on pace for how good he should be, definitely not a cost saving move.
9.) 05 Oct 2018 06:40:06
@unbiasedjim.
In four years Reilly will be making close to $8M+ (I’m using OEL’s contract as comparable. And they are very comparable players) . Werenski is to going to get $8M. At least I have a very hard time seeing that being offered up his first contract. You would also be dumping Nylander’s salary here as well. I think if you look at it that way, it actually is a big cost saving manoeuvre.
10.) 05 Oct 2018 06:40:39
Leafs already have Reilly and Gardiner for puckmovers. you guys need an all around guy. Think Tanev. or Muzzin., or the guy in Pheonix. who won with Hawks. Kjamalson, or something like that?
That's kinda Dman ya need. And if ya trade Nylander for that kinda guy. Ya should be able to get a 2nd rounder as well.
11.) 05 Oct 2018 06:58:56
Werenski *won’t* be getting $8M. Typo there changes the whole sentence.
The way I see it is in 3-4 years: Nylander ($7M) + Reilly ($8M) - Werenski ($6M) = $9M in savings. A very sizeable amount indeed. Right when we need to re-sign Ladri, Dermott, Liljegren, Sandin, Andersen, and probably a couple other that will have been playing on bridge contracts.
12.) 05 Oct 2018 08:01:35
Even if the 2nd goes the other way, not a chance CBJ does that.
27 Dec 2018 17:09:28
Make it Hamilton and you have a deal.
14 Nov 2018 05:27:36
Why would any team do this to just take Bracco?
12 Nov 2018 01:59:19
Too much from Toronto.