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10 Feb 2019 20:46:12
There have been a lot of similar trades to this one but here we go...

TO CAR: Kapanen
To TOR: Pesce

To BUF: Zaitsev
To TOR: 3rd rounder

To STL: 4th Rounder (STL's that the TOR owns)
To TOR: Maroon

Seen a lot of Pesce + Ferland deals to the Leafs for Kapanen + Zaitsev but I do not think the Leafs have the additional pieces that Carolina would want to pull it off. Kapanen has been rumoured to CAR for a long time and could be the final push for a playoff spot.

Buffalo in need of right side defensive upgrades and have the cap space. I am sure the Leafs would hate to trade in the division but if Pesce is going to come in they have to dump that contract

Maroon is not playing well this year but perhaps a team change will spark a resurgence. May not be as good as Ferland but comes at a much cheaper price

DL7

1.) 10 Feb 2019 21:34:42
So before wasn’t the rumor Pesce for Nylander? So no from Carolina.
Huge no from Buffalo, they won’t take that contract in order to “upgrade” (I have no clue how their d corps is) their right side defense I’m sure they can get other options.
If Toronto can get Maroon for a 4th they should take it.


2.) 10 Feb 2019 22:36:21
CAR would ask for more for Pesce IMO, maybe Kapanen and another prospect or a pick. BUF won't take on Zaitsev's contract without more incentive to the deal, especially as they inch closer and closer to contending for a playoff spot. The 3rd trade I can see working out though.


3.) 11 Feb 2019 01:59:54
HAs been reported buf interested in zaitsev but leafs would have to eat some money.


4.) 11 Feb 2019 03:48:11
Only Charelli would have traded Nylander for Pesce.


 

 

30 Nov 2018 15:53:40
30 hrs left in this soap opera...

To TOR: Sandheim, Simmonds, Farabee

To PHI: Nylander, Holl, Rosen and a conditional 3rd (Becomes a 2nd if Simmonds re-signs)

DL7

1.) 30 Nov 2018 21:55:19
The leafs can’t afford to resign Simmonds. I would be very interested in a trade along the lines of Sanheim and Simmonds for Nylander. The leafs have the money this year for Simmonds and he’s exactly the type of player the leafs need. Is Sanheim plus half a year of Simmonds fair value for Nylander, I’m not sure. Good post though.


2.) 01 Dec 2018 04:02:50
Appears at first glance to be underwhelming return for Nylander: a pending UFA that won’t be re-signed, a possible top 4 defenseman who would likely be 3rd pairing on Leafs behind Rielly and Dermott, and a highly rated prospect player that is at least three years away from making the NHL.

But then you realize that the signing deadline is like maybe 12 hours away, and this trade gives us a physical top line RW that replaces Nylander for the duration of the season, a high quality defensive prospect that replaces Gardiner next year, and a future prospect forward projected to be top 6.

We get something for this year, something for next year, and something to come in the year following that. A constant influx of new talent. And all for a guy that we don’t need and isn’t even playing.


 

 

25 Jun 2018 18:38:00
To TOR: Justin Faulk and Nicolas Roy

TO CAR: Jake Gardiner, Garrett Sparks, and Jeremy Bracco

Toronto needs some top RD help and some centre depth in the organization. Dermott can play second pairing, while Sandin will be the final piece on the left side in a few years.

Carolina needs some immediate LD help with Hanifin gone as Bean needs some AHL time. Sparks gives them a great goalie prospect that can play this year and the organization could really use a puck distributing RW in Bracco as they do have some good left shot scorers coming up in the system (Kuokkannen, Foegele, Saarela).

A lot of Gardiner haters out there but I will remind you that he was 6th in even strength points for a D man and has outscored Faulk the last two years in a row. He only has one year left until UFA, while Faulk has two.

Gardiner - Hamilton
Slavin - Pesce
Fleury - van Riemsdyk

Rielly - Faulk
Dermott - Zaitsev
Rosen/Borgman - Hainsey

DL7

1.) 25 Jun 2018 18:52:32
Justin Faulk will go for a top end forward, d-man or a #1 draft pick. I don't believe that Carolina will want a combination of lesser roster players and b prospects.


2.) 25 Jun 2018 20:41:26
Faulk is so overrated he’ll probably end the season as a healthy scratch for the Canes he’s terrible defensively and the offense hasn’t been there for a couple years now. Hamilton and Pesce are both above him on the depth chart Gardiner for him straight up is a no from leafs.


3.) 25 Jun 2018 21:07:24
Lots of different views on Faulk on this site. I’m guessing his true value is somewhere in the middle? I haven’t seen him play too much.


4.) 25 Jun 2018 22:32:10
No vb just hates Faulk for whatever reason idk why lol.


5.) 26 Jun 2018 01:20:38
He can’t be worth that much if every canes fan wants him out.


 

 

15 Jun 2018 05:02:45
Nothing groundbreaking here, just my hopes for the Leafs in the next two and a half weeks.

To TOR: Dougie Hamilton

To CAL: William Nylander

This has been floated out there for awhile but I think it really helps both teams. Hamilton would pair nicely with Rielly and would come cheaper than Carlson's projected salary. Nylander with Jankowski could form a dominant second line, leaving the 3M line in its proper place as the third line.

1st round - Leafs draft Ty Dellandrea at 25th. I actually believe this kid is the second best centre in the draft. If he played for the Soo he would be going ahead of Veleno.

2nd round - Leafs trade the 52nd pick, Pickard and Marincin for Detriot's 36th. Leafs draft best D man available (Woo, Lundqvist, Samuelsson, Beaudin).
Both of those players would make Detriot's team next year. I just really hope the Leafs do something to get a early 2nd round as picks 24 to 42 all seem to be interchangeable depending on the mock. Deep year

Free Agency

JVR signs for $6 mill x 7 years. Rumours are that he wants to stay so he takes a $1 mill haircut to do so. This also lessens the sting of losing Nylander

Joe Thornton signs a 2 year x $5 mill. Centres are lacking in FA this year. The Leafs need a third line centre so the Ontario boy joins his old buddy Marleau. Also this let's Dellandrea develop

New Lines:

Johnsson - Matthews - Hyman
Marleau - Kadri - Marner
JVR - Thornton - Kapenan
Martin - Lindholm - Brown

Rielly - Hamilton
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Dermott - Hainsey

DL7

1.) 15 Jun 2018 06:35:36
Thornton already said he wants to stay in San Jose and I can’t see him willingly taking a 3rd line role tbh.

Idk who the ty player is but Veleno wasn’t even on a good team so idk what playing for Soo has to do with anything if you’re a good player it shouldn’t matter what team you’re on but it does help to play with better players.


2.) 15 Jun 2018 07:18:41
Slot Thornton 2C and Toronto might have to add for Hamilton due to him being 24years old and he puts up good points for a defender not to mention he's a RHD. Calvin De Haan could be a good option come free agency over Dermott.


3.) 15 Jun 2018 07:44:02
Toronto would have to add a piece to get Nylander but I like it. Bozak can come cheaper than Thornton and is a perfect 3rd line Center that wins face offs and kills penalties.


4.) 15 Jun 2018 15:49:44
I doubt Hamilton is available unless it’s for quite an overpay but he’s what the Leafs need.


5.) 17 Jun 2018 15:30:47
If Taylor Hall and his success (point wise) in Edmonton only gets Adam Larsson. Then William Nylander with his limited success of 3 years NHL would still require a massive add to get Dougie Hamilton.


 

 

19 Feb 2018 22:15:34
Leafs jump the gun and beat NYR with Nash and BUF with Kane to the punch

To NAS: JVR

To TOR: Fabbro and 2018 1st

Leafs then call up Andreas Johnsson for two games to see what they have (3rd in AHL scoring, 2nd in goals)

Then

To NYR: Nashville's 1st

To TOR: Grabner

It was reported that the Leafs really wanted to re sign Grabner before he left. He is better defensively than JVR and can still score. Problem is losing JVR on the power play is a big hole for the leafs as no one really has his net presence. But the addition of Fabbro in the system should make up any for any stress they feel this year

DL7

1.) 19 Feb 2018 23:25:03
The idea of trading JVR and getting grabner for less is interesting because Babcock loves grabner and he plays a complete game, something JVR doesn’t do. But I think what you have Nashville paying for JVR is way too much. Don’t think you switch those 2 UFAs and end up with Fabbro lol if they could, I’m all in. But Nashville wouldn’t pay that.


2.) 20 Feb 2018 09:55:04
Lol not even Fabbro alone.


3.) 20 Feb 2018 15:57:20
LOL. Not a chance.
Rental for a teams best prospect. that's more than funny.

Ah leaf fans. always dreamin'


 

 

 

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27 Jun 2017 00:50:59
I don't believe that the Top young pairing RHD that Leaf fans have been begging for exists in the market right now but with the success of past draft it no longer matters. Picking up Liljegren and Rasanen fills some major holes in the system but they will need some time (probably 2 and 4 years respectively). The Leafs need to pick up a D man that can fill the gap

To FLA: JVR

To TOR: Demers ($500,000 retained per) and 2018 PHX 2nd round

This solves problems for both teams. Florida is desperate for some scoring wingers after losing Smith and Marchessault. Leafs have to find a player to pair with Rielly so that he can further his development and I think Demers could be that guy. His contract lasts four more years so it fits the Leafs development timeline

DL7

1.) 27 Jun 2017 12:39:09
Don't think Florida is too desperate considering they could have easily protected those guys/ not given up two of them for nothing.


 

 

12 Jun 2017 20:22:29
Before the craziness of this week begins, I just want to list my ideal three weeks for the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Trade #1

To TOR: Josh Manson, Clayton Stoner ($3.25 mill cap dump), and Max Jones

To ANA: JVR (50% retained), Andreas Johnsson, Tobias Lindberg

Trade #2

To TOR: Niemi ($4.5 mill), #39th overall

To DAL: Rinat Valiev

Trade # 3 - Draft day scenario IF Liljegren falls to #11

To TOR: #11 overall (Liljegren)

To LA: #17 and Jeremy Bracco (I would only trade Bracco to a Western Conference team)

Leafs draft Liljegren at 11, Oettinger at 39 (or best available G), and Mattheos at 50

Leafs sign Boyle @ 3 years x 2.2 mill
Leafs sign Darren Raddysh at ELC

Once again, this is just my hopes so I imagine I will take a lot of slack for it, though I do not think I have said anything too outlandish

DL7

1.) 12 jun 2017 21:53:49
dont trade future all star andreas johnson, i love the guy don't trade him.


2.) 13 Jun 2017 01:10:32
I heard that Ottawa would want to draft Oettinger in the first round.


3.) 13 Jun 2017 01:41:55
Agree with BigZ maybe not star part but rather trade someone else. Hyman?


4.) 13 Jun 2017 02:47:06
I don't know about the first two prospects but I think if they were swapped with the 17th pick it would be closer on the first trade.


 

 

21 May 2017 21:46:27
I really think that Carolina needs to make a play for Duchene and they have the D men to pull the trade off before the draft.

To CAR: Matt Duchene

To COL: Jacob Slavin and Jake Bean

Caroline also has three 2nd round picks if they need an additional carrot. Duchene would solidify Carolina's centres moving Rask and Staal to their ideal lines. Hadyn Fleury can move up and take Slavins spot

For Colorado this would completely round out their D core with Slavin pairing with Barrie and Bean with Johnson. Bean and Barrie can run their PP, and Slavin and Johnson provide defensive anchors

DL7

1.) 21 May 2017 23:48:10
Take out Bean then it's Fair.


2.) 22 May 2017 05:31:22
No VB. Duchene >> Slavin straight up.


 

 

12 May 2016 22:48:50
Alright Leaf fans, not to totally quash the trading up to the top 10 rumours but the Leafs probably do not have the assets to do it. Pittsburg is continuing to win, greatly diminishing the value of their 1st round pick. Leafs are now looking at a bottom four pick and in this draft players from the 25-40 range are all very equal in talent.

Using a chart that was recommended by Elliot Friedman, which looks at the relative value of each pick in the draft I have come up with what it will take for the Leafs to trade up.

The three most likely candidates to trade are MIN, NYI, and FLA as they are all missing their second and third round picks this more (and even more in some cases)

To get the 15th overall from the Wild, it will cost: PIT 1st, SJ 2017 2nd, Leafs 3rd and NJ 3rd or PIT 1st and Leafs 2nd

To get the 19th overall from the Islanders, it will cost: PIT 1st, SJ 2017 2nd and NJ 3rd or PIT 1st, WAS 2nd and Leafs 3rd

To get the 23rd overall pick from FLA, it will cost: PIT 1st and WAS 2nd

There we have it folks, those are the traded pick value according to that chart. See which one you like best

(To get the values right I made some assumptions like the Pens losing in the Stanley Cup which mean their pick is the 29th and that SJ's 2017 2nd round pick would be around 45, meaning that they squeak in to the playoffs and lose first round)

DL7.

DL7

1.) 13 May 2016 02:01:26
I like the 15th overall idea but we also have JVR, Kappnen, Bozak and Komarov as trade chips.


 

 

12 Feb 2016 16:06:52
What about this deal:

To OTT - Drouin
To TB - Chabot

At first glance, this might be a bit of an under payment for Drouin but it's probably the max I would give if I were the Sens. He's a top puck moving d man prospect that TB covets. I think they have moved past trying to get someone who can help them this year.

I have heard other deals like Paul + 1st for Drouin but I feel that is way to much for a projected 2nd liner and/ or possible bust, as Ottawa could draft someone like Keller with their 1st who is a similar player.

DL7

1.) 12 Feb 2016 18:18:02
Drouin is a second liner. He's still a projected elite/ superstar talent. Don't kid yourself that because he's throwing a tantrum he's a bust. Could effect his value but it does not effect his skill level.


2.) 12 Feb 2016 18:41:02
Drouin isn't a 2nd liner. If he was he wouldn't be sitting on his couch in Quebec.


3.) 12 Feb 2016 21:00:59
Bud do you follow the Lightning at all? He wasn't getting top 6 minutes in tampa because they have too many top 6 forwards. He was coming odd injury so they sent him down to condition/ get those minutes. Then he made the decision to go public so they couldn't bring him back up and the decision to sit on a couch in Quebec. He currently has the skill to play in the top 6 on most nhl teams that's evident to anyone whose watched him play.


 

 

 

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11 Feb 2019 03:48:11
Only Charelli would have traded Nylander for Pesce.

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16 Jun 2018 06:11:29
Steal for Zona. Similar ppg but way more goals from Chuck. Who is worse. Bergevin of Chiarelli?

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17 Feb 2018 06:29:12
On the second trade, what if Montreal change the pick to their 2nd rounder?

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09 Oct 2017 22:15:09
He's the exact type of player they would go after but that is a bit too much.

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15 Sep 2017 18:47:36
Thet are both pretty equal. Gal is bigger and more of a scorer, while Hub is better defensively and more of playmaker. Both are LWs though so really just a sideways move.

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