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25 Jun 2015 19:57:05
The Penguins are apparently in on the Phil Kessel Trade talks, the main piece going to Toronto being a young Dman. I'd assume it's Derrick Pouliot.

TOR: Pouliot, Bennett, Scuderi (cap dump) 2nd round pick 2016
PIT: Kessel ( 25% retained)

The Leafs get a potential top pair Dman to play with Morgan Reilly for years to come, they get a young roster forward and a pick.

The Penguins get a legitimate 1st line winger to play with Crosby or Malkin.

With Kessel, Perron, Hornqvist and Kapanen coming up soon, the Penguins fill in a huge need on the wings.

Give me your thoughts.

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1.) 25 Jun 2015 20:22:15
If I'm Toronto I hang up, block Rutherford out of my life and sue the Pittsburgh Penguins organization for defamation and emotional trauma.

Kessel will get more than that. Pittsburgh is not an ideal location for him anyway.


2.) 25 Jun 2015 20:26:37
I believe a 2016 first has to be included


3.) 25 Jun 2015 20:33:34
easy no form toronto not a good enough deal to take back a bad contract and retain a lot of kessels salary for the next 7 years. Leafs could do a lot better.


4.) 25 Jun 2015 21:04:30
Oh Kessel will easily get Malkin+, everybody knows that.


5.) 25 Jun 2015 21:15:48
^ no he won't get Malkin +, but he's going to get more than a song and a dance


6.) 25 Jun 2015 21:36:48
Reasonable trade.


7.) 25 Jun 2015 22:47:19
What do you suggest Kessel would get from Pittsburgh chirp?


8.) 26 Jun 2015 06:21:03
The trade itself isn't that bad, I was more mocking the leafs fans that think it is a huge underpayment.


9.) 26 Jun 2015 06:25:36
@Leafs17

PIT- Pouliot, Kunitz, Scuderi, 2016 1st

TOR- Kessel, Gardiner


10.) 26 Jun 2015 09:43:43
Thanks. I was hoping to see chirp make a suggestion but still he just chirps. I would like to see the leafs keep Gardiner. I think Babcock will build his confidence instead of benching him for making a mistake. Kids need to be thrown back in there and learn from their mistakes.


 

 

16 Jun 2015 21:08:46
Avs summer trades:

Draft: Timo Meier, 10th overall
BUF: O'reilly
COL: Grigorenko, Gorges ( 25% retained), 2nd

MTL: Iginla ( 15% retained)
COL: Markov, Andrighetto

Sign D Cody Franson, 4 year, 19m 4.75m/year
C/W Carl Soderberg 3 year 10m, 3.33m/year
RW Justin WIlliams 2 year, 10m 5/year

Landeskog-Duchene-Williams
Soderberg-Mackinnon-Tanguay
McGinn-Grigorenko-Andrighetto
Caron-Mitchell-Mcleod

Johnson-Barrie
Markov-Franson
Gorges-Redmond

Varlamov
Pickard

Thoughts?

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1.) 16 Jun 2015 21:41:12
Buff says no.


2.) 16 Jun 2015 21:46:20
all 3 of those free agents will get more per year than that

soberberg easy 4.5 million, williams will get 6 and franson will easily get 5.75+


3.) 16 Jun 2015 22:17:30
This doesn't make the avs better, they looking for experienced veteran defencemen who can play top 4 and in their mid to late 20's


4.) 16 Jun 2015 22:37:04
Buffolo has no need for orielly Colorado shouldn't be retaining salary for the iginla trade. If petty got 5.5mill Its possible for him to get more money from another team unless his agent sucks


5.) 16 Jun 2015 22:44:20
no from habs


6.) 17 Jun 2015 01:17:24
Cody Franson and Justin Williams will get more money in free agency.


7.) 17 Jun 2015 02:28:02
Love the MTL trade, good for both teams.


8.) 17 Jun 2015 02:38:34
Idk I think you could do better with the o'reilly trade and that team has no depth.


9.) 17 Jun 2015 03:04:03
Dream on


10.) 17 Jun 2015 12:04:37
Gorges = 2nd
Grigorenko = KHL
2nd = which one 31st or 51st
That is actually a pretty good deal, Roy gets a shot at rejuvenating Mikhail, Buffalo gets unreal depth at center Eichel, Reinhart, O'Reilly, Girgenson, McCormick and Larsson.


 

 

25 May 2015 22:11:00
Toronto is starting their rebuild, need a #1 C. How about:

EDM: JVR, Gauthier, 2nd
TOR: RNH, Gordon or Purcell (Cap purposes)

Oilers can spare a C, with McDavid getting drafted and Drasaitl waiting to come up. Oilers get that top 6 powerforward they're missing. Leafs get a legit #1 center who's still very young.

Oilers forward core going forward:

Hall-McDavid-Eberle
JVR-Drasaitl-Yakupov
Poulit-Lander-Pitlick
Moroz-Gauthier-Someguy

That's some crazy potential right there.

Toronto can potentially draft Noah Hanifin with the 4th overall pick to build starting from defence with a Rielly-Hanifin top pair.

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1.) 26 May 2015 06:53:26
Toronto adds rnh is a number 1 line centre not to mention he's a very good two way player and is only 22 edm will not trade him for a top six winger a b level prospect and a pick keep dreaming leafs fans


2.) 26 May 2015 07:58:10
LOL. Oilers aren't reading any other their centers his off season unless it was a deal they couldn't refuse. Ei:a number one D or G. No way in heck they trade Nuge for a winger and try to go into the season with McDavid and Leon. Look what just happened last season when they tried that with Nuge and Leon. Get a clue. Wow


3.) 26 May 2015 10:21:42
Oilers aren't trading any of thier centers this off season** wow, my bad


4.) 26 May 2015 16:31:53
Edmonton is going to want a goalie in any trade.


5.) 26 May 2015 16:34:07
Draisaitl isn't ready for the 2nd line C position.


6.) 26 May 2015 17:07:54
So while the leafs are starting a rebuild, the oilers are starting a teardown? That's the only way that trade makes sense. In other words, that trade makes no sense.


7.) 26 May 2015 17:37:32
I read the first comment, then I read the username. LOL


8.) 27 May 2015 06:51:03
@beleaf
Lol i'm loving all the jealousy edmonton is getting


 

 

25 May 2015 19:21:45
Bold Montreal Canadiens moves

COL: Markov
MTL: Iginla

Practically same contracts, around the same age. MTL gets offense and experience on RW, COL gets a mentor for Avs young D, he has slowed down a lot but can still help. Got 50 pts this year.

MTL: Jenner
CBJ: Eller, 2nd 2016

CBJ GM loves Eller, MTL gets the underated all around forward in Boone jenner.

CHI: Desharnais (25% retained : 2.65M/year cap hit ), Tinordi, Smtih Pelly
MTL: Sharp

Desharnais goes the other way to make some room in salary. Chicago gets a young defender in Tinordi who could use a chagne of scenary and also gets Smith Pelly who is on a very cheap deal for bottom 6 purposes.

MTL: Thornton
SJS: Plekanec, 1st 2015. Tokarski

Sharks get a little bit younger, get a 1st round pick and a young forward goalie to help with the retool. MTL gets a big center to mentor Galchenyuk

Re-Sign: Petry 6 year 33 million, 5.5m/year
Mitchell 1 year 1.3 million
Galchenyuk 2 year 7 million, 3.5 per
Beaulieu 2 year 3.5m 1.75 per

Sign

Greiss 2 year 2.4m, 1.2m year
Bellemore 1 year 1 million

Pacioretty-Thornton-Gallagher
Sharp-Galchenyuk-Iginla
Hudon/Andrighetto/Scherbak-De La Rose- Jenner
Prust-Mitchell-Weise
Bournival

Beaulieu-Subban
Emelin-Petry
Gilbert-Pateryn
Bellemore

Price
Greiss

Yep, not going to happen.

ATH Hockey

1.) 25 May 2015 19:30:20
Value is close in all your trades so props to you, Can't see CBJ or CHI making those trades.


2.) 25 May 2015 20:54:41
Love the trades spot on


3.) 25 May 2015 21:00:58
I actually like the Chicago trade, I'd do it, maybe add Bickell in free.


4.) 25 May 2015 21:40:29
I like the Col trade, no from Jackets, no from Hawks and yes from Sharks.


5.) 25 May 2015 21:49:45
Your blueline would be way weaker without Markov.


6.) 25 May 2015 21:56:12
Wowzers. I'm shocked. A non delusional smart post. Thanks for that.


7.) 26 May 2015 00:34:50
CBJ also loves Jenner and MTL wouldn't be getting him for that meager price.


8.) 26 May 2015 00:48:19
I really like the Thornton trade for both sides good post


 

 

16 Dec 2014 01:11:21
So Hall's available.

I don't see many teams having the cap space or the pieces necessary to acquire him. I could see the Isles making a push.

EDM: Reinhart, Strome, Nielsen, 2nd
NYI: Hall, Klefbom

Thoughts?

The Oilers get a top D pair prospect, a very good young forward, a good 2nd line player and a pick.

Isles get a Star LW to play with Tavares and Okposo.

Imagine: Hall-Tavares-Okposo.

I'm not even a Isles fan.

ATH Hockey

1.) I think they should trade hall because they are last in the league and would have a good shot at drafting mcdavid. I also think they should try and trade for a top defenceman. It would be sweet if the Bruins would trade Hamilton, subban and a draft pick for hall


2.) Hall to Isles for Reinhart, Lee, and Bailey


3.) Hamilton is our future d when chara retires so don't trade Hamilton


4.) Strome, Reinhart and Dal Colle

You won't get Hall for less than that IMO


5.) With the Isles playing their best hockey in a long time there is no reason to move pieces like Strome, Reinhart, or anyone else right now.

If the Isles could buy low on Hall great, but do not start making major changes to the team when things are going well.


 

 

 

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27 May 2015 02:05:48
Montreal will not make the same mistake Toronto did when doing the Kessel deal. If Montreal is acquiring a top winger, it won't be in exchange of Galchenyuk. The only one with potential to be a top line C.

Besides Montreal doesn't have anything Toronto wants or Montreal can trade awat. Kessel will be traded somewhere with good young prospects like New York Islanders, they could send a package with Michael Dal Cole the other way.

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25 May 2015 22:02:08
I didn't know Pateryn was a top 4 Dman.
He's a reliable 3rd pair guy at the moment and doesn't seem to have much potential to play in he top 4.

I'm a Habs fan btw

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Leafs still wouldn't make the playoffs lol

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In what world does this trade make sense to you? Don't you think Montreal already had enough overpaid players with huge contracts in the past 5 years?

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Who the hell is Jordan Oesterle?

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25 May 2015 19:23:17
Caron was traded, it I'm not mistaken

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