03 Feb 2019 16:03:50
Ok well Colorado has been linked to stone, Chicago to Duchene, and Edmonton has shown past interest in Ceci and could use dzingles speed with McDavid so.

Ott : stone, Paul, and San Jose's 2nd

Col : Ottawa's 1st this year

Also.

Ott : Duchene

Chi : Chicago's 1st this year, and Chicago 2nd this year, and Chicago 3rd this year

Also.

Ott : dzingle, Ceci, smith, brown

Edm : Edmontons 1st in 2020, Bouchard, and lucic

Condition to all 3 being Duchene, stone and dzingle all agree to avoid free agency and sign with new teams on the spot.

Then when lottery results determined (they pray to God they land Hughes) and

Ott : the later of their 2 picks Chicago or their own

Van : Quinn Hughes

But leave Bouchard and the Hughes boys in the juniors one more year and tank for Lafreniere, with 3 picks in 2020 better odds.

Best case scenario defence is then fixed with additions of Hughes and Bouchard to help Lajoie, chabot, and demelo. While offence looks like it can compete again with the farm coming up and joining with Lafreniere and Hughes. I know Dorian too stupid to pull this off but one can dream right? Lol

Stone added to the already dangerous Colorado top unit would be insane

Dzingle giving McDavid someone who can actually keep up with his speed would do wanders

And Duchene Toews 1 2 punch with Kane on the wing and a very possible return of panarin in offseason would likely put Chicago back where they belong in the top of the league discussion

In my oppinion that's a win for all teams involved

Ottawa down the road and long term and the other 3 in the hear and now with Edmonton long term with brown, short term with dzingle, and by the grace of God by losing Lucic contract.

1.) 03 Feb 2019
03 Feb 2019 16:35:26
How do you add stone to Colorado’s top line? They already have 3 players on it. That’s why it’s a line. And it’s the best one out there. Colorado will not give them back their pick. Why would they?
And we won’t give you Bouchard or our 1st for that.
And why is panarin a very possible return to Chitown? All I’ve heard is he was really hurt the hawks traded him to begin with and is set on a New York team or Florida.
Vancouver just used a top 5 pick on Hughes and they’re trending upwards. Why would they gift him to the senators for the later of 2 picks?
Are all your posts like this? Or are you having an off day?

2.) 03 Feb 2019
03 Feb 2019 16:48:02
OrangeBlood, his posts are always like thisz.

3.) 03 Feb 2019
03 Feb 2019 16:48:58
Its going to cost you minimum Stone + Duchene to reacquire that 1st. Ain’t happening for just Stone.

4.) 03 Feb 2019
03 Feb 2019 16:55:15
Hawks have no need for Duchene, if they go aftera bif fish it will be Panarin.

5.) 03 Feb 2019
03 Feb 2019 18:16:21
Hahahaha wow this post is atrocious.

6.) 03 Feb 2019
03 Feb 2019 18:38:00
Rambo, I knew you were delusional before, especially with all the times you’ve argued on here saying how you knew for certain this or that was going to happen, and they we’d all just have to wait and see, only for it not to happen like we all told you it wouldn’t.

But, you’ve seriously hit a new low if you think any of those trades work, ESPECIALLY the Vancouver one. The Canucks got so lucky when Hughes fell to seventh due to Montreal and Arizona taking centers, any other time and he’s a top 5 pick, and you want the Canucks to give him up for only ONE asset, and that asset being a first that’s likely not even in the top 10? Get out of here with that stupid rubbish, you’re serioirlsy delusional, get some help.

7.) 03 Feb 2019
03 Feb 2019 20:18:18
All great trades. if your Ottawa. No way Chicago's able to afford panarin, and that's before you said get duchenne. didn't realize the cap was going up 15 million $ next year. And Chicago's 1sy 2nd and 3rd picks, that might be a top 3 overall pick depending on how the season finishes, just total non sense, other trades are completely ridiculous also.

8.) 04 Feb 2019
03 Feb 2019 21:28:55
I just puked after reading this.

9.) 04 Feb 2019
04 Feb 2019 11:07:09
Stone plus Duchene for our own first? Hahahahaha good one, stone is a 5 tool player and one of the best at that, fully signed his value alone is fairly close to a first overall at this point that still has a little under half a season to change its rank get real.

And the Chicago one has been mentioned throughout the year and by adding Duchene as well as making a pitch at panarin in offseason who wants to go back there anyway it makes that team stronger for it.

And orange blood, try reading the trade before making a dumb comment. Bouchard, at least for the next year, is Edmontons most valuable piece in this deal as the pick involved is next year's, not this year's meaning it likely won't be as good since chirelli no longer in charge. So.

Brown = Bouchard (Bouchard might be a tad more value)

Dzingle + Ceci = next years 1st

Smith contract vs Lucic contract (Edmonton should be on their hands and knees begging for someone to take Lucic)

10.) 04 Feb 2019
04 Feb 2019 12:53:40
So your saying that top4 guarranteed is equivalent to Mark Stone? A top four player in the draft is at worse Brady Tkachuk level, and tbh, I’s rather have him than Stone due to age/ contract. With the chance of getting Hughes with that pick, its minimum Duch+Stone and I’m not kidding you.


Also Chicago won’t do that. They have enough cap hell witj seabrook and keith, they need youth not expensive prime players.

11.) 04 Feb 2019
04 Feb 2019 15:59:30
Slappers what ever drugs you're taking I def want some, of course I like Brady bit I'll take stone over him any given day, unless you got a guaranteed Jack Hughes stone fully sign definitely has the value greater than anyone else in top 5 adding fully signed Duchene on top Colorado would have to add a conditional pick with the only condition being that the next time Colorado has a top 5 pick it goes to Ottawa too. you don't give up what sens did for Duchene and take back peanuts. Fully signed both guy are more than worth a top 5 pick by the trade deadline, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Acquiring those picks don't guarantee they will stay top 5 either, especially Chicago one, adding Duchene to Chicago would be a huge addition that can easily fix their standing, Duchene Kane together would destroy other teams defence.

And someone asked how stone fits in Colorado? Easy 2nd line for now, or first power play unit with Barrie Landy rants and Mack, also be sick pk guy as he is one of the best defensive forwards in the game, he would make available that much more dangerous, plus when current top 3 run dry on their chemistry you can split em up, rants and Mack on one line stoner and Landy on another for a 1 2 punch.

12.) 04 Feb 2019
04 Feb 2019 19:54:49
Same old Rambo 😂

“And with the 1st pick of the 2019 NHL Draft, the Colorado Avalanche select. ”.

13.) 05 Feb 2019
05 Feb 2019 04:51:35
Unsportsmanlike, this is exactly what I have been talking about all along about how you and your groupies here disrespect sens players and undervalue them.

According to the garbage you all have been posting since last year I have the evidence now. Duchene with a year and a half on his contract got what he got for Colorado that being a player in Turris who is nearly equal skill level (I say Turris because everything acquired for Turris went to Colorado) as well as a solid prospect in Bowers a 3rd and a backup goalie in Hammond, and a 1st from a projected weak end team, yet some how you all thought that was fair with exception of me.

Now I propose 2 trades basically 1 for one each while also stating that both men will be fully signed in these deals, Chicago first for Duchene which is still less value that what was initially traded for him on a contract that was ending as opposed to a full contract meaning a Duchene that should arguably be worth more than he was then as despite a bad team season his individual numbers have been better than ever yet somehow according to y'all he ain't even worth 1 top 5 pick? Get real dude.

Then you got stone who in many people's oppinion is actually better than Duchene also younger on top of that and considered a 5 tool player by some of the harshest critics and fully signed should be worth even more than Duchene seeing as how he is literally just starting his prime of his career, yet somehow he's not worth a single pick that doesn't give you more than a 15% chance at the one guy in the draft who is arguably worth more based on age alone in Jack Hughes? Really?

Hughes is great yes but the kid is strictly offence (so was Yakupov, how did that work out) he's got speed, great skating, great shot, great passing, but without the puck he needs work stone is one of the best with and without the puck, with his skating holding him back a tad bit not enough to hurt him, no doubt fully signed he's worth that pick at least.

It's painfully obvious how biased you all are against Ottawa as you can't even back up why you have their value ratings so low unless they are on other teams, on top of that neither carries the baggage EK and Hoffman did at time of their deals!

14.) 05 Feb 2019
05 Feb 2019 11:20:29
Yeah Rambo get the tin foil hat on! It’s all a big anti-Sens conspiracy on this site — that’s why Sens players never get traded for anything close to what you propose in reality (I’ll “back that up” with specific historical examples in Karlsson and Hoffman ) — it has nothing to do with your room temperature IQ!

15.) 05 Feb 2019
05 Feb 2019 13:18:02
Please unsportsmanlike bias, explain to me how 1.5 years of Duchene was worth what he got or even the proposals you all listed like for example white Chabot and a weak teams 1st and then some yet a proposal involving a fully signed (5+ years) Duchene for a top 5 pick (now, as adding Duchene will likely get them back on winning track) is not a fair deal for Chicago?

Or a fully signed stone (5+ years) who logs 60+ points anually with sub par line mates while being one of the best defensive forwards in the game today at age 26, and is proving this year that with a quality line mate I'll be it Duchene or tkechuck both of which he's played with so far he's a point a game plus guy, is somehow not worth a top 5 pick that could change at any time but even still only gives a 15% chance at jack Hughes?

Pretty sure a guaranteed 5 tool player as stated by critics and a guaranteed former number 3 overall who lives up to the hype that comes with that high a pick both signed long term carry more value than at the very minimum everyone else in top 5 picks this year and even in stones case a 15% chance at Hughes.

16.) 05 Feb 2019
05 Feb 2019 13:27:08
Also I literally just mentioned EK and Hoffman and that Duchene and stone don't carry the same sort of baggage this full value and fully signed not tough to see.

17.) 05 Feb 2019
05 Feb 2019 14:21:27
I have not posted any trade Ottawa proposals. Ever. So spare me from your nonsensical ramblings.

Let me know when Ottawa trades Karlsson for Sergachev, Point, and 2 firsts.

Just more of your delusional, biased posts.

We have a track record on this site of you getting called out for being completely out to lunch with your valuations, only to be proven comically wrong when the trades occurs and the return is no where near what you suggested. And here you are, back at it again. You are either hopelessly deluded from reality, or the site's greatest troll. In either case, debating with you would be a waste of time. So now I sit back and enjoy the laughs when you post.

18.) 06 Feb 2019
06 Feb 2019 18:27:28
I don't post biased garbage like you do.

Stone is a perennial 60+ point guy playing with average at best line mates up till this year and still has been and continues to be one of the best defensive forwards in the league on top of that. Now playing with someone close to the same skill level and consistency he's over a point a game. He's also only 26 years old just starting his prime years. Fully signed 5+ years he's easily worth more than any possible draft pick outside jack hughes. And seeing as a trade must be reached by deadline that means the sens pick is only currently a 15% chance to land Hughes and those odds still have 20+ games to change completely.

Do the math unsportsmanlike, a guaranteed fully signed close to or right on point a game top 6 forward at 26 years old vs a CHANCE at a 15% CHANCE at jack hughes! Not too hard to see that stone himself carries more value let alone the addition of a 2nd and a decent prospect in Paul on top of that.

Then there is Duchene deal which is a bigger risk for Ottawa as he's almost as good as stone, and only 2 years older at age 28. Sure the Chicago pick is currently 5th overall but swapping it for Duchene all but guarantees that Chicago not only improves their standing and makes the pick worst but makes Chicago better long term. Duchene like stone, is better than any possible pick outside Hughes and most definitely far more valuable than any pick ranging 6 - 15, which is most likely where that pick would end up being after a deal like this.

Fact is I can back up what I view their values to be, and I don't believe you can even give a compelling reason why their values should be any less other than you don't like Ottawa and undervalue their talent. I've been waiting a few years now to hear any kind of logical explanation as to the value of these players according to everyone else and why but yet all I get is a bunch of trolls who can't give anything but a "your crazy" or a "you'll never get that"

Wake up and give any real reasoning or stop trolling, plain and simple!

19.) 07 Feb 2019
07 Feb 2019 14:49:10
Your flawed and delusional opinions do not back up anything.

History has backed up what we have said on this site and proven you wrong every time (Karlsson not getting traded for anything close to what you assured us he would -- Sergachev, Point and 2 1sts; Hoffman getting traded for a can of beans like we told you he would given the circumstances despite you stomping your feet and pounding the table telling us we were all wrong) .

I'll take empirical evidence over your "reasoning" every day of the week, thanks. Those "trolls" telling you "you're crazy" and "you'll never get that" have been right every time. You have been proven wrong every time. The end.

By the way, Hughes isn't the only player that will be getting drafted this year. Ottawa is hot garbage and their first round pick may not be 1st overall, but it's going to be right up there. Better get used to the notion of another team using your first rounder kiddo.

20.) 09 Feb 2019
09 Feb 2019 18:16:38
Are you blind to facts too unsportsmanlike? History in this one is most definitely on my side.

I said Duchene and stone both fully signed are worth the returns and then some I have listed here, do your research.

Duchene with 1.5 years left got Colorado everything from the Kyle Turris trade, plus hamond, a 3rd, a 1st, and Bowers (a 1st in his own right) .

Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble but a fully signed Duchene 1 year later who has clearly upped his own personal game since the trade is definitely worth more than a year and a half Duchene who wanted out anyway, that much is common sense, and the return I posted here doesn't even match the return Colorado got even if the 1st they got was last of first round instead of first at this point.

Take into account that stone is a better and more valuable piece than Duchene his trade value fully signed also exceeds that of a fully signed Duchene especially considering the guy is only 26 years old.

And still instead of backing your claims with actual evidence all you can do is attempt to down play my claims, open you eyes and ears instead of your mouth for once and actually do some research.

21.) 09 Feb 2019
09 Feb 2019 18:33:09
And just for good measure.

As reported by Dave pagnotta, the asking price for stone and Duchene has been revealed.

A 1st round pick, a top tier prospect, and another top tier asset

Actual asking price e for each of them, and that's as is unsigned and rightfully so! Fully sign they are worth a lot more each and this type of package as is can be deemed equal to a top 5 pick as is so really the trades I posted are also undervaluing their worth if you want to look at it that way.

22.) 09 Feb 2019
09 Feb 2019 19:34:35
Cool story — let me know when Duchene gets traded to Chicago for a lottery pick and when Stone gets traded to Colorado for Ottawa’s first. I’ll wait.

If that happens (newsflash — it won’t) I’ll gladly eat crow.

When it doesn’t, I’ll still be here laughing at you. Keep postiing kiddo, the world needs more laughter.

23.) 12 Feb 2019
12 Feb 2019 23:47:29
They are exactly fully signed yet you goof, the trades I posted clearly state both men as fully signed, maybe if you closed your mouth, opened your eyes, and learned to read you'd see that, not saying the Chicago one isn't a possiblity fully signed or not but don't go putting words in my mouth to cover your own backside.