13 Oct 2018 06:06:41
Leafs trade Nylander
Florida trades Huberdeau

A simple 1:1 hockey trade.

My main goal here is to dump Nylander on a bottom feeding team, so that he will never ever have a chance at winning the cup, ever. Screw him. Winning should mean everything to this young man, and apparently it means nothing.

Depending on what Nylander eventually signs for, we may have to take Petrovic back as a cap dump, which is acceptable to me.


1.) 13 Oct 2018
13 Oct 2018 07:33:05
This is a very one-sided post, imo.
I also don't understand why every media narrative is "Nylander is holding out from the Leafs". Why isn't it "The Leafs are holding out from Nylander"?
Both sides are trying to do what's best for them. Leafs trying to get him at a cheap cap hit and Nylander trying to secure his and his children's future financial security. Nothing wrong on either side.
Hockey is a business, if players take big discounts to go/ stay somewhere, that's great on them. But if someone doesn't, doesn't mean he's not interested in winning. The players (in this case Nylander) earned their right to fight for their money. The CBA and NA sports system restricts players more than enough in their choice of team, so again: very one-sided and narrow-minded post, imo.


2.) 13 Oct 2018
13 Oct 2018 10:56:17
Triplets, you would have a point if the Leafs were actually lowballing Nylander, but from what I have read, they are not. They are trying to get him signed in the $6 mln - $7mln range, which is exactly what he is worth, based on comparable players/ contracts (I really fail to see why he should be paid much more than Pastrnak at $6.67 mln a year who is by all measures the superior player) .

You get paid for what you have accomplished and the player/ ability you have shown yourself to be -- Nylander asking for $8mln is seemingly looking to be paid for the player he could turn out to be, and frankly, that's not how the NHL (or life in the real world in general) works.


3.) 13 Oct 2018
13 Oct 2018 11:03:45
Also I'm getting sick of this "doing what's best for his and his children's financial security" narrative. What a load.

Even if the Leafs came in at the low-end and offered him 6 mln x 8 years, that's almost $50 mln in guaranteed money and in all likelihood that won't be the last contract he signs in his career. Plus there's additional income streams from endorsements (he can do a Head and Shoulders commercial with his pretty boy hair or something) . The guy will have more money than 99.999% of the global population ever sees, so let's end the pity party right here and stop worrying about his financial future.


4.) 13 Oct 2018
13 Oct 2018 15:00:26
Nylander was born into a rich family. He is already richer than most people will ever be. He of all people doesn’t need the money. To even suggest he’s just trying to support his family is the biggest load of bull I’ve ever read on this site. Call me narrow minded all you want, I can just as easily do the same for you. How many kids in the NHL today had parents that were rich hockey stars? Not many. Most come from working class families whose parents had to work hard in order to pay for their children to succeed. Nylander is spoiled and greedy. Simple as that. Maybe if Nylander’s father was a factory worker or janitor I would have more sympathy for him. But knowing that the family is already wealthy beyond any reasonable measure just sickens me that he is trying to push salaries higher and become one of the top 25 paid players in the game today, which he clearly is not. Correct me if I am wrong, but when Crosby first signed his contract many years ago, did he not take a discount? The world’s best player at the time should have been te world’s highest paid player shouldn’t he? Yet Toews, Kane, and even his own teammate Malkin all ended up with larger contract. Those guys are all obviously elite players in their own right, but Crosby was the poster boy for the NHL and face of the Pittsburgh franchise. So why is he making less than they are?

I changed my mind about this trade. If Nylander goes anywhere, it should only be to a bottom feeding perreniel loser. He doesn’t deserve the right to go to another competitior. I like Foote, and will find another way to float a proposal for him that doesn’t include Greedy Needylander.

@unsportsmanlike

The Head and Shoulders and pretty boy hair comment was awesome. I nearly pissed myself at that one.


5.) 13 Oct 2018
13 Oct 2018 16:27:20
@leafsgm it's going to be another tough year for you again next year then I guess. Nylander should have been the easiest of the big 3 to get signed.


6.) 13 Oct 2018
13 Oct 2018 16:51:36
@habby

You would have thought that. But not really. Because he’s the first to sign, Nylander sets the tone. If Dubas caves to Nylander’s demands, he would have to cave on Matthews and Marner as well. If you are Matthews and Marner and setting career years this year, would you be willing to sit out next year for a couple extra bucks? I doubt it. If Matthews gets the Rocket Richard Trophy and maybe some other hardware, he’s probably not going to risk losing all that glory and isolate himself from the Toronto fan base next year because he thinks he’s worth more than Tavares, who may be named the next captain instead of him.


7.) 13 Oct 2018
13 Oct 2018 16:56:36
I guess in my rant about how greedy Nylander is, I didn’t realize this wasn’t the Tampa proposal I floated at the same time. Lol. I had it right the first time: Leafs should deal with Nylander the same way Sakic dealt with o’Reilly and dump him on the worst team in the league so he never has a shot at glory.


8.) 13 Oct 2018
13 Oct 2018 20:02:31
The same people saying that 2 mill a year for 8 years doesn't matter are the same ones saying a couple hundred k in taxes is an insurmountable advantage for non-state tax teams. Nylander has a right to hold out. We don't actually know what either side is asking for just rumours. Leafs could just as easily change to match him as he could to match them. Like all contract holdouts media has picked a "loser" and here its Nylander. As for the Pasta comparison i don't think anyone would disagree that deal is a bargain and he's worth more. that's what makes it a tough comparable because everyone knows that contract is light and he'd get more in a renegotiation, that's what Nylander is trying to do. As a player agent you don't accept an undervalued contract as a comparable and if you aren't giving a discount and your contract is a steal you failed.


9.) 13 Oct 2018
13 Oct 2018 23:01:29
We'll I'm going to spoil the party for you right now matthews is going to get paid more then tavares. Probably even more then mcdavid.


10.) 14 Oct 2018
14 Oct 2018 00:11:03
@habby

I hope he doesn’t get that much. In my mock roster I only have him at $11-$12M. Anything more than that is going to screw up my projected roster. Lol.


11.) 14 Oct 2018
14 Oct 2018 00:30:38
Okay, don't like the Pasta comparison?

How about Scheiffele? Posts better point totals. Actually plays center (more valuable than a winger) . Makes just over $6 I believe.

Or Ehlers? Posts very similar numbers to Nylander. Winger. Makes $6 even.

There are several others in that range. Certainly not a one-off that should not be used as fair bookends for what Nylander is worth. $8mln for a guy who is not a ppg player nor a strong two-way player and is a winger is out of touch with reality.