06 Oct 2018 05:49:45
Leafs trade Kadri, Gardiner
Dallas trades Faksa, Johns, Douglas

Leafs trade Nylander
Arizona trades Perlini, Fischer, Bahl

Marleau/ Matthews/ Fischer
Hyman/ Tavares/ Marner
Perlini/ Faksa/ Brown
Johnsson/ Lindholm/ Kapanen
*Ennis, Jooris, Leivo

Rielly/ Johns
Dermott/ Zaitsev
Hainsey/ Ozhiganov
(Sandin/ Liljegren)
(Bahl/ Rasanen)

This is mainly about adding size and improving overall team defense, while still keeping us an offensive powerhouse.

I wanted to dump Nylander on the worst team in the west I could. Arizona is perennial losers. No chance Nylander ever wins a cup there. Perlini and Fischer are already doing quite well in the NHL and should perform admirably on the Leafs. Bahl is a monster, and if both him and Rasanen make the team we got the biggest 3rd line defense in the league.

Kadri and Gardiner give Dallas more offence, while Faksa and Johns give us a better defense (which we actually do need) . Faksa is a Selke candidate. We really need a guy like that on the team. Johns is perfect replacement for Hainsey until Liljegren is ready. Douglas is the size of Godzilla.

As far as the money goes, we definitely end up saving a few bucks (I didn’t work out how much exactly) . Easily leaves us cap room to re-sign Matthews, Marner and still leave some money leftover.


1.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 06:35:21
We could throw Arizona a second or third round pick for Bahl too I guess if it doesn’t seem like Nylander alone is worth the three incoming players.


2.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 12:27:07
Absolutely horrendous for the leafs their is absolutely no reason to trade Kadri. Why fix something that isn’t Broken.

I personally wouldn’t trade Gardiner staight up for that Dallas offer Faska is a 4th line C and Johns is a 5th Dman on a good defense like Nashville, Vegas, Winnipeg, Carolina, Calargry, ETC.

Terrible deals.

May as well trade Marner, Mathews and Tavares for picks because there is no way Toronto makes it to the playoffs without Kadri, Gardiner and Nylander while being replaced with AHL esq players.


3.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 14:24:56
@vb

I just checked your profile and the last trade proposal you made was on September 13. You offered Nylander for Johns plus a 1st, 2nd, 3rd.

Without doubt this has to be one of the dumbest criticisms I’ve ever seen. Coming from you, I’m not surprised. You really need to give your head a shake. I would be embarrassed to say something so stupid after having posted a far worse proposal just three weeks ago. Like what’s the matter with you man? If you want to argue the merits of a trade is fine. But you seem intent on hurling insults for no apparent reason other than to initiate conflict. Extremely childish and makes you look foolish as well. I’m starting to suspect that you don’t even know anything about hockey. Do you even know what the Selke trophy is awarded for? You realize Kadri is 3C right? Not exactly a player who is going to carry the team. Gardiner is gone end of the year. You do know he is IFA and won’t be coming back right? So we had better learn to win without him.

Your post is nonsense and you are a fool. Grow up.


4.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 15:08:41
Well I mean the 1st has more value then Faska and Johns combined. Faska dosent have the offensive out put to be a 3rd C and what does johns bring? He’s a plug you put him in he does his job nothing less and nothing more. How is Kadri being a 3rd C have any relevance? Tavares was the 3rd C at the World Cup does that make him bad player? Toronto has the unique ability to role 3 “nearly” equal lines why change that? Kadri playing 3rd line dosent change the fact that he’s the leafs best shut down C and Plays against the toughest matchup while still potting 30 + goals and running the 2nd PP.


5.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 15:25:10
I offered up our 3C and a pending UFA for Faksa and Johns. You offered up our 1LW for Johns and a couple picks. To suggest that a pick has more value than two NHL players, one of whom is a Selke candidate is ridiculous.

Tavares as 3C in World Cup team playing behind the two best centres in the world is irrelevant. It just tells us what we already know - Canada has the best hockey talent in the world on international stage. It is a meaningless comparison when trying to translate to NHL where the teams are not stacked with the greatest players a country can produce.

You’re a joke and making yourself sound worse with every response. I actually feel embarrassed for you right now because you are trying to cover your ass with explanations and only making it sound worse.


6.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 15:43:38
I don’t know a lot about the Dallas players but Kadri’s value is a lot when you factor in his contract, point production and physicality. There is no way the leafs should move him. I used to not be a fan of Kadri because he always crossed the line and hurt the team. For the most part, he now plays on the edge of that line and every team would love to have him. Even your team habby, lol. I’d trade Nylander before Kadri in a heartbeat.


7.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 16:25:12
Rather keep Naz. One of the better all round centres that Toronto has had. Sure his advanced stats may not be Bergeron level, but he provides physicality, grit, heart, scoring, defensive starts/ matchup and passion to this team.

I get you want to trade Naz for maximum value before his contract ends. But at the end of the day, if something is working, and the team looks good, theyd never trade him. HE BRings too many things that this team lacks, and he gives us a better chance at winning in the next three years than Faksa, or Johns do if they were here for 6.


8.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 16:44:59
Okay You’re right Canada is amazing and Playing behind Mathews and Tavares is an embarrassment and automatically means you’re terrible. Compareing Canada’s Center depth to Toronto’s is very comparable “When scaled to the equivalencies of talent in Interrnational play compared to NHL. “ also I’d much rather have a question mark then two proven players who are nearly useless. Faska being a selke candidate is a joke he’ll never have defensive play compared to player like Bergeron and Kopitar . Get your facts straight before you respond.


9.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 16:47:04
@Leafs17

I didn’t like Kadri because before BAbs and along, Kadri was a diver and cheap shot. He’s cleaned his game up a lot, and maybe I still have negative feelings towards him for previous transgressions.

@topshelfslappers

Well said. You make some very good points here. As always, you bring another point of view to the table that maybe was overlooked in my proposal. It’s always good to have constructive criticism from someone who knows what they are talking about.


10.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 17:04:10
@vb

Once again, you sound foolish. Do you even do any research before commenting.

At 24 years of age, Faksa came 7th in Selke voting. At 24 years of age, Bergeron came 5th, and at 24 years of age Kopitar came 9th.

Once again, you have embarrassed yourself here.


11.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 17:20:05
I felt the same way LeafsGM. I thought the leafs should’ve trade him after he was PPG in the shortened season. I’m glad they didn’t. When he’s playing on the edge, not crossing the line, he’s very valuable.


12.) 06 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 19:49:22
Whenever vb has to say get your facts straight he knows he’s lost lol.


13.) 07 Oct 2018
06 Oct 2018 22:46:56
You’re right LeafsGM Faska is a god how about a Mathews-Faska swap? Future selke winner just because he was voted 7th.


14.) 07 Oct 2018
07 Oct 2018 14:39:15
Vbb, how many games have you watched? when does Kadri run the second PP? Because last season one PP everything went through Matthews and Nylander and the other unit everything went through Marner and usually ended up at JVR. This year Kadri doesn’t run the 2nd PP either as you suggest. He’s actually in the high slot on the first one. And I like Naz, but if you think he’s on the ice with Matthews, Tavares, Marner and Rielly and he’s the one calling the shots or controlling the play, you’re more off the rails than I thought.