22 Aug 2018 16:18:01
To DET: Calvin Pickard

To TOR: Luke Glendening


1.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 17:34:40
Detroit declines, if we need Pickard it won’t cost us Glendening.

He may go for a mid pick or waiver pick up. As a Wings Fan, I would pay that over Glendening.

Not saying the value is off, Just that this is one of those cases where Glendening’s intangibles make him more valuable to the Wings than other teams may value him.

Like it would take an overpay to pry him out.

This is a good destination for him because Glendening had good history with Babcock.

I remember the estimated price for Toronto was at least a 2nd and I’m pretty sure even Liljegren was an ask for Glendening a year or 2 ago.

So basically: Pickard won’t get you Glendening and you won’t like the price if it happens.


2.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 18:17:01
He might be a good fit, but the first time i ever heard there was interest was leading up to this past deadline, not a year or two ago. And liljegren was not the asking price I rememebr being reported lol also he’s only been drafted a year and a cpl months. They were not trading a freshly drafted RH puck moving D who was ranked as a top 5 pick and fell to them at 17th for a 4th liner lol that’s outrageous. That’s like saying in 2016, the asking price for Nick Spaling for the wings from the leafs was Dylan Larkin lol not a chance.


3.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 19:59:48
Was there really a list that ranked liligren at 5th anywhere close to the draft? Only lists I can remember had him going anywhere from 10 to 18th.


4.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 20:33:27
@Habby, I just re-read my response. I worded that poorly. He wasn’t a projected top 5 pick heading in to that draft. He was touted as a top 5 pick, even as high as second on some lists the previous season. His draft year was less than stellar allowing leafs to get him at 17th. Just meant that they weren’t trading that kind of potential at 18 years old At a position that every team either needs or can’t get enough of for a 4th liner. I stand by the rest of it tho, saying the wings wouldn’t trade Larkin at 18 and oilers wouldn’t trade Yamamoto at 18 etc for 4th line depth, just because they were picked 15-25th overall instead of top 5 or 10 lol.


5.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 20:34:02
Why trade for them when teams will wait until the end of training camp and claim either Sparks and Pickard off waivers.


6.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 21:14:41
@islandjet, that’s a possibility, but often times with these low value guys they trade for them for total contract numbers. Pickard cleared waivers 2 days before the leafs traded for him last season. They did that because they were planning on making moves at the deadline and didn’t want to handcuff themselves at 50 total contracts. So as soon as pickard cleared, they worked out a trade for him and sent Lindberg to Vegas. Not sure what Detroit’s contract numbers are, but waivers vs trades happen for a real reason.


7.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 21:30:27
However right after training camp, teams probably have more flexibility and could just claim on of them.


8.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 22:32:30
Liljegren was considered a top 2 pick the year prior to his draft. He got really sick (I believe it was mono) which caused him to fall in the draft because he didn't have a good year due to his sickness. So yes, he has pedigree and if the Wings asked for Liljegren for Glendening the leafs rightfully refused.


9.) 23 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 23:30:01
Glendening is a 4th line center on one of the worst rosters in the NHL.

I sincerely doubt Liljegren was ever the ask, and frankly feel like I lost a few IQ points having read it.


10.) 23 Aug 2018
23 Aug 2018 02:02:48
Yes liljigren was projected to be a tip 2 but missed a lot of games his draft season.

As for Picard clearing wavers, it's a formal process. Once a player clears wavers they are eligible to be send down to the minors unless a team claims him, at which point he must remain on the nhl team until he clears waivers. The only reason the leafs traded for Picard was because he cleared waivers and was eligible to be sent to the marlies immediately.


11.) 23 Aug 2018
23 Aug 2018 08:36:52
@UnbiasedJim

I agree with what you said. Although I may have been a little out of context.

What I was trying to say is that I read a single article that Liljegren was a potential piece in a deal that obviously fell through at the past deadline (forgot when it was) . Clearly that author knew nothing about hockey.

Now obviously one article does not lead to accuracy on the real asking price. What I will add is that Leafs did show interest so they could re visit this at the deadline again.

I know that Glendening a 4th line C and is not getting a stud D prospect like Liljegren. Just expecting draft picks and as high as the bidding war will take it.

However, I feel overall that my Wings won’t move him because we don’t have a replacement for him who does the intangibles on the PK and flexibility to move around the lineup.

Basically, trying to get across that I would prefer picks/ prospects over Pickard. Pickard’s ceiling isn’t high so just from a Red Wings Team need perspective, we would be looking for like Tyler Parsons, Carter Hart or someone like that. Not saying we will get them but that’s what we’re looking for.


12.) 23 Aug 2018
23 Aug 2018 14:01:24
I don't think a 2nd is an unreasonable ask. If I was a GM I personally would not trade a 2nd for Glendening, but I'm pretty sure the Leafs were foolish enough to trade a second to Montreal for Monsieur Turtleneck last year.

I thought that was a bad trade by the Leafs then, and still do, but it certainly gives credibility to the ask for Glendening (especially to a divison rival as was the case with Plekanec) .


13.) 23 Aug 2018
23 Aug 2018 14:58:33
For Glendening as a controllable player to shore up our 4th line, I’d do a 3rd easily and probably a second (would be a late one anyway) . Babcock has had 4-5 guys rotate in and out trying to get that 4th lone C role filled and hasn’t found him. So if he’s comfortable with Glendening, get him. All I was saying is you don’t trade Liljegren to do it lol leafs have plenty of prospect depth of guys that you expect to draft in the 2nd and 3rd round. Of course you could give up that 2nd round pick that becomes Johnny Quick or Pk Subban or Patrice Bergeron, but generally speaking they are guys that could crack your line up in a few years as middle tier guys.