02 Aug 2018 13:42:41
With Mark Stone reportedly asking 9M in arbitration, I don't see Melnyk wanting to pay him that much. if they don't agree on a fair deal do you see Melnyk saying to trade stone for assets rather than paying the man?

Ottawa: Stone
Edmonton: Jones + 1st?

1.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 14:39:38
Not even close Stone might have more value then Karlsson sense he is a RFA.

2.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 15:26:11
Stone is worth waaay more than a second pairing D and a very late first

3.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 16:16:20
Stone is worth far more than that. But with Ottawa’s lack of leverage and track record lately I don’t know if they get proper value for anyone anymore. I still think teams would pay more than this though.

4.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 17:14:15
At least 10other teams would offer more than a B Prospect and an1st for a 60+ point Defensive winger.

5.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 19:57:46
Players always ask for a lot more than they actually want. The team is offering $5.5M I believe. He probably realistically wants and is worth around $7.5M. So he's asking for $9M. He will probably and should get between. $7-8M.

6.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 20:44:36
Team is $5 mill I believe. Sens also almost $3 mill apart on Ceci. Long term deal for stone in the $7-7.5 range is probably what he wants but of Sens don’t do it, he has nothing to lose a year away from UFA.

7.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 20:57:57
I wouldn’t even pay Ceci 3 million let alone be 3 million apart jeez.

8.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 21:11:56
If league agrees more with the team and awards him $5-6 mill, then i think it’s all but guaranteed he will feel ripped off by ownership/ management and be gone at the first chance he gets. If they award him $7+ I think he could still then negotiate a long deal after with them.

9.) 02 Aug 2018
02 Aug 2018 22:44:48
Jim, league has nothing to do with the amount of money stone gets.

10.) 03 Aug 2018
03 Aug 2018 00:00:33
I meant arbitration. Not league. It’s a private arbitrator hired by the league.

11.) 03 Aug 2018
03 Aug 2018 00:05:53
Lol. I legit LOLed when I read what Cici was asking for the other day.

12.) 03 Aug 2018
03 Aug 2018 00:07:38
Jim you should know the league has nothing to do with the contract negotiations between player/ agent and GM/ Owner. Come on man. If they don't agree and want to go to arbritration that's third party, Still nothing to do with the NHL league I believe.

13.) 03 Aug 2018
03 Aug 2018 04:56:26
You'd ask for the moon if you had to play for that organization right now too.

14.) 03 Aug 2018
03 Aug 2018 12:54:32
Yupp, I corrected by saying arbitrator and do you think these private arbitrators work for free?! Lol they are contracted by the league. I own a construction company, when I’m done a job I contract a company to do a road sweep. They’re not MY employee, but I still technically hired them for that job. So yes, as I said, it’s a private arbitrator hired by the league.

15.) 03 Aug 2018
03 Aug 2018 14:38:53
They aren't NHL employees tho as you kinda suggested. They are third party. Meaning they don't work directly for the league. they just come in with no bias either way and work things out. 🍻🍻.

16.) 03 Aug 2018
03 Aug 2018 16:23:31
I agree. I said league by mistake and then corrected it to arbitrator lol

You said it has “nothing to do with NHL League”. So I said they are hired by the league but are private arbitrators. Didn’t you just use the quote “read to understand, don’t read to respond”?! Lol Jesus.

17.) 03 Aug 2018
03 Aug 2018 16:34:53
And I specifically said ‘not employee’ in my analogy lol slow news day I guess.

18.) 03 Aug 2018
03 Aug 2018 17:26:24
Anyone feel if the contracts keep rising like this we are heading for another lockout? Or if the cap continues to rise all will be good between owner and player? Stone's great, don't get me wrong, I really like him, but just feels like a few years ago he'd be more in the 5 mil range rather than the 7.3 he just signed.

19.) 03 Aug 2018
03 Aug 2018 18:50:03
@musing, you’re right. They seem like they’re climbing but the bar is always set at the top. So a few years ago when Crosby, Malkin and ovie were the best in the world and making 8.7-9.5 guys like him were $5 mill range. But when mcdavid gets 12.5 as the best now (deserved) and that next tier is getting 10-11 (Doughty, toews, kane, kopitar, Tavares, Eichel, matthews soon) then these types of guys are $7+ mill for sure.