11 Jul 2018 13:44:43
Ok so how about this. I actually would mind this just because its would give Ottawa a toughness they've really never had.

Ott : Karlsson, Anderson (g)

Cal : m. Tkechuck, andersson (defense prospect), and a 1st

Then if that happens.

Ott : gaborik, 5th

EDM : lucic

Tkechuck duchene Ryan
Tkechuck brown stone
Lucic pageau boadker
Dzingle Smith paajarvi

White and chlapic as scratches

Chabot wideman
Andersson ceci
Lajoie borowieski

Might not be as skilled as leafs up front but would definitely be hard team to play against and tough as nails.

Calgary adds both the goalie they desperately need and the best defenceman in the world.

Edmonton gets rid of useless lucic AHL may find a way in Ottawa to rejuvenate his career.

1.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 14:44:03
Mike Smith - 36 years old
55gp 25 wins 2.65GAA .916sv%

Craig Anderson -37 years old
58gp 23 wins. 3.32GAA. .898sv%

Thanks for solving Calgary’s goaltending problems lol Craig Anderson is what they ‘desperately need? ’ Haha

Secondly, Calgary’s blue line is not where they need help. It’s scoring wingers and also being hard to play against (tkachuk) . With Giordano, Brodie, hanifin, hamonic they’re solid. So again Sens are clearly giving the best player, but this trade helps them way more than it helps Calgary. Anyone would want to add Karlsson, but flames are losing what they really need to gain a luxury that should not a major concern for them. Why?

2.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 15:05:54
lol. Calgarys MVP was their goalie Smith last season. Geez.

3.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 16:41:36
I feel like Stone would be more of an interest then Karlsson.

Stone ( RFA ) and Dizingel for Tkachuk and Brower ( cap )

Dizingel replaces Tkachuk on the 2nd line making Dizingel-Backlund-Lindholm. Then Stone give them that top line RW they “desperately need” who is litterly the perfect fit for Mohnahan-Guadreau

Meanwhile Tkachuk is only 20 and already a presance in the NHL. Could be the bright spot for Ottawa’s future.

4.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 18:18:32
Vbbvbb first off stone going no where

2nd off no chance brower would be part of a deal like this stone => tkechuck and dzingle >>>>>>> brower plus no cap issue with dzingle like brower


How you come up with you player trade value is beyond comprehension.

5.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 18:12:33
Fair enough on calgary's needs though I do believe it's an upgrade in nets yes Andy coming off a bad season but so is the entire Ottawa team as a whole. he has proven he can steal games when needed and he steps up huge in playoffs. Smith however I've never really been sold on since he played for Tampa.

The needs thing makes sense though I can agree with that to a degree but then again they did just sign neal to approach that couldn't they flip gio for a forward? Word is he is on block.

6.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 19:29:51
Stone is about to be a lot more expensive and Calargry will need to dump cap to fit in 7-8 million for Stone. Tkachuk definitely has more value. Ottawa has no need for cap space as they’ll be near last place in the nhl for a few seasons.

7.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 21:03:49
Tkechuck has slightly more cap value temporarily until his entry contract expires but stone has more skill value at both ends of ice and term value as well seeing as how when tkechuck is due for a new contract the average rate will be higher than it is now while stone is locked up at cheaper rate.

Hence stone =/ > tkechuck

Ottawa will not be last, though it is a tough time they do still have a skilled team. Carolina Arizona rangers Detroit calgary Edmonton Vancouver islanders are all just as bad if not worst and most of them don't have as many skilled players like stone Karlsson (or what ever we get for him) duchene brown tkechuck chabot wideman dzingle and yes, boadker and ryan.

8.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 22:02:31
At the moment it looks like Stone is heading to arbitration. If he is not signed long term before then he will walk away with a one-year deal ending him with him a free agent.

You can bet your bottom dollar he would be entertaining offers from other teams at that point, perhaps eager to escape the dumpster fire that is the Ottawa Senators organization.

But I'm sure Melnyk will be eager to pay the man before then, right? He's never low-balled a star player or anything.

9.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 22:39:32
vbbbvvbb, did u just say M. Tkatchuk has more value than mark stone. Have you watched mark stone play. He single-handedly carried Ottawa last year with points (averaged over 1 point a game). Yes Matthew is a good player, but he's nowhere near Mark Stone's level of play and Hockey IQ.

10.) 12 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 23:49:46
Lol mark Stone is arbitration bound and almost guaranteed he’s leaving via UFA next season if he’s not traded.

11.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 00:33:42
I love Stone Crinamally underated. He is the best offensive player on the Sens but they should trade him he’s in his prime and almost certainly won’t spend his prime years in the dumpster fire of Ottawa he'll sign a one year contract and he’ll probably leave via trade at the deadline or as an UFA . He had the best giveaway/ Takeway ratio in 2016/ 2017 in the nhl and is an Elite 2 way presance

But Tkachuk has more value he’s 5 years younger and strong defensively and offensively. Potential 70 point man. He’s also elite physically which is rare these days I believe he’d be a fan favourite in Ottawa with Karlsson leaving he’s be the face of the Franchise.

Maybe Calargry would need to add a prospect like Anderson ( NHL ready RHD )

12.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 03:50:44
I'll take a bet on stone not leaving Ottawa Mike. name your price but make sure you're willing to pay up.

13.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 15:02:08
Not sure the allowance you get from your mom is something you should be gambling.

I don't think it's more likely that Stone leaves than stays, and if it were any other organization in the league would 100% expect Stone to be signed long term before he gets to arbitration. But this IS the Senators we are talking about, so I would not be surprised by any means if Melnyk low balls Stone and refuses the offer, heads to arbitration, signs a one year deal via arbitration, and then tests free agency next summer.

If Melnyk is not willing to pay him what he is worth, it's not like there is a lot of reasons right now to stick around long-term on a hometown discount. The team is going to be garbage for the next few years.

14.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 15:12:56
The team will not be garbage 1 bad year after all that garbage drama doesn't change things.
Hoffman out tkechuck in takes care of that.
phaneuf gone is a huge plus.
Karlsson healthy or the crazy return we could get for him will help emensly.
Brassard I never really liked anyway so brown can fill that role no issue.
The only possible worry would be the looming Anderson trade and who would take his place.

Aside from all that they still have duchene stone pageau and dzingle. Boadker despite over payed adds quickness and a little skill, Ryan still puts up respectable numbers, chabot going to break out even more especially if Karlsson gets traded. And their prospect pool is vastly underrated and highly skilled.

They play be a playoff bubble team might make it in might not but won't be a bottom feeder again this year. And if melnick paid Ryan like he did he will pay stone.

15.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 17:42:44
Rambo, no one will actually bet with you. You ‘guaranteed’ the top 10 pick + for hoffman and now that you’re wrong you say its a joke and a technicality because they should have got more lol

If I bet you on stone leaving and he walks via UFA, you will say it doesn’t count because they didn’t even really want him anymore.

16.) 15 Jul 2018
15 Jul 2018 17:13:43
Jim, take the bet or close your mouth. the fact is haffman is worth a top 5 to 10 pick whether you like him or not. We did get fleeced on that deal because our GM is incompetent. brian Murray could have gotten that maybe more for Hoffman if he were still alive and in charge. even muckler could do better seeing as how he got the 2nd overall (spezza), chara, and a 3rd piece for yashin.

And I believe my guarentee was we could get that if we had a better GM that wasn't named pierre dorian.