30 Jun 2018 21:36:46
Carolina Hurricanes:
- (RW) Jesse Puljujarvi
- (LW) Milan Lucic
- (G) Al Montoya
Edmonton Oilers:
- (D) Justin Faulk
- (G) Scott Darling
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Oilers buy-out Scott Darling.
If Jeff Skinner is on the move, Milan Lucic can fill his spot. After a bad year, he can rebound.
With Cam Ward and Scott Darling gone, Hurricanes get a veteran backup with Al Montoya. They can go after Robin Lehner in free agency.
Oilers get a help on defence and help on the PP.
With Andrei Svechnikov and Jesse Puljujarvi on RW, Carolina is starting to build a scary offence.
1.) 01 Jul 2018
01 Jul 2018 02:55:29
Darling and Lucic are both cap dumps right? Now in any non biased oilers opinion Lucic has more negative value but let’s say they’re equal. Montoya dosent have any value and if he does it’s only a 6th or 7th I’m sure Everyone will agree. Now Jesse Puljujarvi a former 4th overall pick in 2016 who has been in light terms underwhelming for for both the oilers and there AHL affiliate.
You quote “Faulk could get much more than a prospect who has so far been a failure.
Faulk is a top 2 NHL right handed defenceman. â€
Yes oilers fan Jesse Puljujarvi has more value Evegeni Svechnikov but not by much both have proven about as much and have similar potential.
You also said “ Faulk excels in all areas of the game. The only reason he is not a big name player is because he doesn't score 50+ points. He's an excellent defenceman, just not a 50+ point producer.
Most teams have their ''star'' defenceman that play top 2. And most have that defenceman that IS a top 2 and plays well but isn't a #1 defender on a team (even though Faulk can easily be #1 on 50% of teams) “
You are contradicting yourself why would Carolina trade a top 15 deffensman “ number 1 deffensman on 50% of teams “ as you quoted for a good but not great prospect who looks to be penciled in as a 2nd/ 3rd line RW for the oilers.
2.) 01 Jul 2018
01 Jul 2018 18:05:21
You know VB, I'd defend myself if your post had more than 1 agree on it. It already means people know you're wrong, which saves me a paragraph! :)
3.) 01 Jul 2018
01 Jul 2018 18:34:22
People disagree with vbb because they don’t like him, Not because you’re right lol this is an awful trade. There were goalies like Hutton and mrazek and others that are twice as good as Montoya that teams can have for free today. He’s a nothing in his deal. Lucic is, and I’m not a fan when people overuse this term, but negative value. It will cost to get rid of him. Darling doesn’t have good value, probably very poor value, but better than lucic. So you want canes to accept pulijarvi for Justin Faulk and taking a portion of lucics terrible contract?! This is awful, oilers fans disagreeing with VBB tho is just par for the course.
4.) 01 Jul 2018
01 Jul 2018 18:47:41
1. Montoya is a cheap backup, no point of signing Mrazek or Hutton to multi million deals.
2. Lucic had ONE bad year and suddenly, he's ''negative value''? Cool.
3. Scott Darling finished with a what, .890 save %? Carolina gets the chance to get a better goalie while also filling a hole on LW.
5.) 01 Jul 2018
01 Jul 2018 19:03:43
You don’t think that lucic contract is bad? Lol okay man. Secondly, Eddie Lack/ Scott Wedgewood at $650k, Mrazek at 1.5 mill, kari Lehtonen still out there. Don’t tell me a team would give assets for Montoya when there’s free options at pennies on the dollar. Foolish.
6.) 01 Jul 2018
01 Jul 2018 19:50:09
And if Montoya is a good goalie at a cheap price, why did chiarelli go get Mikko koskinen at 2.5 mill to take his job? Makes zero sense for a cap troubled team to over pay a backup if they thought there’s was good and a lot cheaper.
Also there’s ‘disagrees’ and ‘unbelievables’ on a post that Tavares has signed with Toronto lol don’t judge based on that.
7.) 01 Jul 2018
01 Jul 2018 20:02:09
Yes 2707 oilers fans disagree with me cool but the reality is man all my points were valid and you can’t come up with a counter argument. All the sudden Lucic has negative value? The minute he signed that big contract he had negative value he was on the “buyers beware†list a Peter Chareli overpayed for that experienced top 6 physical presence. Everyone knew that contract would get worse and worse maybe not this soon but it happened. Meanwhile Darling had a terrible year but is more of a wildcard then Lucic and has a much better contract.
People can disagree but the fact is if you can’t even respond with a counter argument either you are unintelligent or wrong.
And Jim’s right why get an AHL goalie when you can get a 1b like Lehtonen or Mrazek for free.
8.) 02 Jul 2018
01 Jul 2018 22:14:37
2707 come on bruh.
9.) 02 Jul 2018
01 Jul 2018 23:34:12
@vb @jim
You don't know what you are talking about buddy.
1. Milan Lucic had a better year than Darling (Although it's hard to compare since one is a forward another one is a defender) . Darling was expected and signed to be a starting goalie, while Lucic was signed to be a physical presence. And counting that in, Lucic's contract has an extra one million on it and about 2 more years. You are seriously giving up on Lucic after one year? In 2016-17 he scored 50 points with the Oilers. It's cute how you think after one year, all of his value is gone after being a regular 50-60 point scorer in the NHL? Cute.
2. An AHL goalie? Montoya is an NHL backup. Check all of his stats, 2 seasons ago, he was one a great backup goalie with a .912 save %. He just played on two bad teams last year. Montoya is already signed and is proven he can handle the job, he is most likely cheaper than any other goalie with a 1 million cap hit.
3. Montoya is better than Eddie Lack and Scott Wedgewood is not proven in the NHL and was not capable of handling a backup job last year.
4. Puljujarvi at least plays in the NHL, while Svech has trouble playing in the AHL. Also, Puljujarvi is much more skilled that Svechnikov and an all-around better player. Nobody can argue that. Also with a higher ceiling.
5. Number 1 defenceman on 50% on teams does not mean he is in the top 15 defencemen in the NHL, that's not how numbers work. For example, a team like St. Louis, they have Pietrangelo and Parayko who both are better than Faulk. Or let's say Tampa Bay with Hedman and McDonagh. You really need to think more sometimes.