07 May 2018 23:08:57
Here's a modification of the trade posted earlier which I though was interesting:

To Calgary: W. Simmonds + 19th Overall 2018

To Philadelphia: A. Fox + M. Stone + A. Mangiapane + 2019 1st (Top 10 protected) + Z. Fischer

For Philly I took out the retention on Simmonds cause he's already on a good contract and took out the AHL prospect cause I felt like he didn't really fit into the Flames plans.

For the Flames I replaced Dube with Stone, Mangiapane and Fischer. Philidelphia already has stellar Center depth. Mangiapane is a fast young left winger that they're been looking for and Stone helps their right side d depth. Fischer is a long shot prospect but could maybe make the jump one day.

1.) 08 May 2018
08 May 2018 02:33:15
I think its fair tbh. Good post.

2.) 08 May 2018
08 May 2018 02:33:23
Good post xcing

3.) 08 May 2018
08 May 2018 03:00:18
No from CGY. Fox and Mangiapane are excellent prospects. And why trade next years 1st for a mid 1st this year. Borrow from Peter to pay Paul. Gets you nowhere.

4.) 08 May 2018
08 May 2018 04:55:11
Don’t see why Philly needs defenseman tbh they have a pretty good pipeline of dmen.

5.) 08 May 2018
08 May 2018 14:17:46
McJesus: Philly is pretty stacked with left side, Ghost, Provorov, Morin, Sanheim, etc. but their right side is very thin with gudas as their only right handed d man and no stand out propsects coming in. Stone gives them another right handed d man that can slot in on the bottom pairing and Fox gives them a right handed top 4 d of the future hopefully.

SC4: Fox is a good prospect but he is a bit of a gamble, very boom or bust and with Calgary’s defensive depth and pipeline he may never get a good shot. Mangiapane is a decent prospect but is nothing special. He may make the team next year but with the addition of Simmonds he won’t be missed that much. Assuming Flames make the playoffs next year their pick will likely be around 19 so trading for a 2018 pick will give them a prospect that can step in a year sooner and given that 2018 is a very good draft they’ll probably get a bit of a better player than they would in 2019.

6.) 08 May 2018
08 May 2018 14:18:29
We don't need Stone or any other defencemen. Ditto to bottom 6 prospects. I'd rather have a solid prospect with top 6 potential than several depth prospects, hence Dube. Simmonds got 24 goals last year despite needing multiple surgeries. He's a warrior and worth what Calgary would pay.

7.) 08 May 2018
08 May 2018 14:20:07
SC4CGY: I didn't pull the idea of Calgary trading into the first round out of a hat. It was reported that they're looking to do it. Since Calgary would probably want to retain their current pieces to compete in 18/ 19, the best way is through trading a future 1st.

8.) 08 May 2018
08 May 2018 20:04:29
Easy E
I’m aware of the Flames management looking to trade back into the 1st this year. But by trading next years 1st they’re potentially in the same position next year. Also I think you underestimate Fox value. And for just 1 year as Simmons contract is almost up. May a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st if Simmons resigns.

9.) 09 May 2018
09 May 2018 18:17:25
SC4CGY: you're correct that they'd lose next year's first rounder but they're not slated to pick until the 4th round this year. At least they have a third next year. Treliving likely wants some type of prospect in the pipe after the draft rather than deferring to next year. It's sound logic but the devil's in what it'll cost. Since Calgary will likely not trade away current NHLers, that only leaves picks and prospects, with next year's 1st being the most likely casualty.

10.) 09 May 2018
09 May 2018 22:43:34
To answer you SC4CGY, maybe they're a prospecg they really like in this draft and want him in the pipeline. So for them a firdt this year is more valuable in that contexte.