13 Mar 2018 14:43:05
I thought I'd propose something unconventional rather than another RNH for Pacioretty/Faulk etc.
Assuming Arizona and Montreal get 1st and 5th overall in this year's draft and that OEL really does want to stay, what would it take for the Habs to get Dahlin? (I know he's not being traded). Montreal has four second round picks this year.

Montreal: 2018 1st overall (Dahlin)

Arizona: 2018 5th overall, 2019 1st (unprotected), Montreal 2018 2nd Round, Chicago 2018 2nd Round, Toronto 2018 2nd Round

Arizona selects one of Boqvist (unlikely), Wilde, Hughes, Bouchard, Dobson

1.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 16:18:46
Montreal could take boqvist at 5th and save all those picks it's too much for me but I'm sure arizona would want similar to this. Looks something like the lindros trade where philly probably would have been better off keeping forsberg.

2.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 16:26:53
Ummm noooo wtf.

3.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 16:27:50
Montreal would have to offwr way more.

4.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 18:03:10
Yikes man Montreal would have to offer way more than that if they want Dahlin.

5.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 18:09:59
I think it's a little to much for Dahlin. the 2019 unprotected first is what lost me in this proposal. Unless Montreal does something fairly big in the off season, or Droiun, Price and Weber can all have way better seasons, I see this team being in lottery contention next year as well.

6.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 19:21:47
As I said before, Dahlin is in a class of his own. he's a Matthews value esque player. Boqvist will be good, but he's not close to Dahlin rn, and a couple 2nds doesn't make up the gap.

7.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 19:28:51
It's not a couple 2nds it's 3 2nds and a first. I'd rather keep the picks there isn't that much difference in the two players.

8.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 20:18:14
There isn’t that much difference in the two players?! Lol yes there is.

One guy is a good Dman with who has managed 1 pt in 15 games in the top Swedish division before being demoted and having 2 pts in 7 games. He has climbed the rankings and I get that points isn’t everything, but when you’re talking about a top pick who is supposed to be an offensive Dman, they matter.

Dahlin has been on everyone’s radar for 3-4 years as the guaranteed top pick. Playing in the world juniors at 16 and been in Sweden’s top division since 16 and at a .50 pts per game pace. Already at 6’1 and 175 pound and getting bigger. Scouts reports say he’s so far beyond where Karlsson was at the same time in his development that the sky’s the limit for the kid.

l. You don’t think there’s a big gap in those two player? But RNH has a long way to go to close that gap on Drouin, right? Hahaha come on. That’s like saying there wasn’t that big of a gap between mcdavid at 1 and Marner at 4. Or Matthews at 1 ans pulijarvi at 4. Ummm ya there was lol.

9.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 20:55:01
Don't use logic Jim. They just don't understand. They have their homer biased blinders on at all times. There's just no point. They even disregard legit facts and stats and call it BS. It's hilarious.

10.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 22:53:44
Yeah I know lol I just can’t believe a guy can say there isn’t much difference between Dahlin and a kid ranked 5th tho lol the entire scouting staff for 31 NHL teaam disagree, along with every analyst and writer I’ve seen mention it, but we should all take Habbys word for it haha.

11.) 14 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 23:36:29
Jim did I say there was a big difference in rnh and drouin? No that's just more of your B. S like always. I wouldn't give up 3 2nds and a 1st to jump up 4 spots. The difference in boqvist and dahlen isn't that much to me.

12.) 14 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 23:36:52
Couldn't care less if you take my word for it or not lol.

13.) 14 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 23:57:15
If they both become top pair dmen like they are projected to become by all those scouts you mentioned. And you also manage to get a25 to 30 goal scorer with the other 1st next year which isn't crazy to think cause like Sosa said it could be a lottery pick. and let's just say only one of those 3 2nds turn into a full time nhler. Does that close the gap? Maybe not in your mind but it does in mind. i'd rather have roman josi filip forsberg and ryan Ellis over eric karrlson on my team any day.

14.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 12:18:25
Yeah and Gilbert Bruce was projected as a top centre 5 spots behind Crosby who was a can’t miss centre who was the consensus 1st for years like Dahlin. And Ryan stein was a top centre prospect 2 picks after mcdavid who was a can’t miss. Rusty Olesz was a projected top line LW 6 spots behind ovi who was a can’t miss winger. Now there’s also Blake wheeler who is great as a winger in that range behind ovi too, but the point is here’s a big difference between a can’t miss #1 overall and a guy that you could get in the same position a pick later. Dahlin isn’t just a typical good player with a lot of potential like every 1st rounder every year. He’s the best projected befense prospect in a cpl decades. That’s referred to as generational. I’m just waiting for if the habs win the pick and you say you wouldn’t trade it for mcdavid and 2 1sts.

15.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 13:19:07
I personally rather draft Boqvist. Has a different kjnd of play for a defense, never goes after puck just body while in his zone which is what your suppose to do but I still see NHL.

even good ones always going for the damn puck when defending. Boqvist is really good at the defense side of things and also has offensive potential and scouts think hell be an offensive defense man in the nhl. I also Like Bouchard and Whalstrom both good winger that could be available at number 5.

16.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 15:11:31
Alexander diagle was just as hyped. What's your point? Jim just try and win an argument without twisting my words around. I know dahlin is the best prospect in this years draft. do you think your the only one who knows that or something? but that's doesn't mean he will be the next lidstrom. trading 5 picks with two of them possibly being lottery picks is too much for me to give up. When I'm almost gaurenteed to get a solid nhl player at 5th. if you don't agree with that just say so. You don't have to make up B. S and twist my words to try and prove your point. and colt I'd rather have dahlin but boqvist is pretty good.

17.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 15:16:37
Colt bouchard is a defenseman.

18.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 19:31:54
I’m not the only one that knows Dahlin is the best player in the draft. That’s Exactly my point. You have this hot take that him and Boqvist aren’t that far apart. I’m well aware that the entire hockey industry identified Dahlin as far and away the best prospect. And daigle was a top pick. He was not called a generational player like the examples I used. Not at all. He was the top choice by the majority of people but even then, there were people who had said they would have taken Pronger 1st. I don't remember people making that arguement for Bobby Ryan or jack Johnson over Sid, or Eichel, strome or hanifin over mcdavid. It just doesn’t happen. These kids are the guaranteed pick for 2-3 seasons before their draft for a reason. Because the field is far in their rear view, like Boqvist is in Dahlins.

19.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 20:15:15
Habby so you’re saying olli Joulevi and 3 2nds for Mathews is to much? Or Noah Hanfin and 3 2nds for McDavid is to much?

20.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 21:57:23
Nylander its 2 1st one being a lottery pick and the other unless there are some big changes in montreal this year possibly another lottery pick and 3 2nds. For me that's to much for the difference in an elite prospect and a really really good prospect. next years pick could be 1st overall too and dahlin or boqvist will probably not do enough to change that as early as next year.

21.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 22:10:33
@Nylander, it’s 3 2nds and a Future 1st. But still, he apparently doesn’t think Dahlin is generational talent, which is fine, it’s his opinion, but he will make it seem like you and everyone else in hockey, including people who are actually paid big bucks to know this stuff, are wrong for thinking he’s as good as everyone says. That’s a big price to pay, but that doesn’t mean it’s an overpayment. But if habs win the lottery there will be no price too steep for him. Just the way it is. We will be reading in ‘NHL Talk’ all next year:

“What a great game again by Dahlin”

“2 more points for Canadiens tonight! ”

“Dahlin for Norris? ”.

22.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 22:14:10
@ biased jim you may not recall 1993 as we'll as I do but even considering the lack of social media as compared to today alexander diagle was super hyped. Hardly anyone had pronger at number 1 and even that should show you what I've been saying. Pronger a guy who probably would have went down in history as one of the top 5 or 10 blue liners of all time had it not been for injuries in the later part of his career was passed over by a hyped player at the draft. now before you try to twist my words again I'll be the first one to say if I got a choice at this draft I take dahlin hands down without even thinking about it. But if the price to move up is those two first and 3 2nds I'm staying at 5th. 5 th overall and 3 2nds i do. But I'm not giving up next years 1st if I'm the habs.

23.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 23:41:27
I never said daigle wasn’t hyped lol I said he was the 1st pick by the majority of ppl. I said he was never called the generational talent like Crosby, mcdavid or even Matthews have been. Dahlin has been the most hyped D prospect in a long long time. Even more than ekblad who had exceptional player status in junior like mcdavid Tavares and lindros. Daigle was not the highest touted winger prospect of a decade or more, regardless of how you remember the pre social media world.

24.) 15 Mar 2018
15 Mar 2018 01:51:12
and i'm saying yes he was hyped the same as those guys. "could be the best player in the game in 2 years" "destined for greatness" all these things were said about him too as these are actual quotes from scouts. I guess I didn't get my last comment in in time to beat you from twisting my words again.

25.) 15 Mar 2018
15 Mar 2018 01:56:08
And for the third time it's this years 1st 5th overall and next years 1st unprotected and 3 2nds.

26.) 15 Mar 2018
15 Mar 2018 03:54:08
Nobody forgets what the package was, nylander made a mistake hours Ago lol we know it’s 2 1sts and 3 2nds. No one said otherwise since then.

27.) 15 Mar 2018
15 Mar 2018 04:02:59
Well in your last comment you left out the current 1st. Biased jim you have too much time on your hands man logging In and out just to click agree on your posts and disagree on mine lol. Your laughable man.

28.) 15 Mar 2018
15 Mar 2018 12:36:33
Haha I’m pretty sure yours has the only agree and mine the only disagree after you posted and clicked it. And I never forgot to mention the current first. I know what the deal is lol you just don’t understand generational talent, which is fine. The closest you have seen to it in Montreal is 2 goalies, one who they pushed out of town and another that’s destined for the same fate. Well and Drouin. He was taken 2 picks behind mackinnon, but I’m sure yzerman thought there was hardly a difference.

29.) 15 Mar 2018
15 Mar 2018 15:00:08
A leaf fan talking about generational talent on his team. Now that's hilarious. matthews hasn't done anything near enough yet to be considered generational I mean at least wait till he starts scoring at a point per game pace. If he ever does. Who are all these other generational talent that you have seen first hand? Sundin? Clarke? Lol biased jim even your smart enough to realize if we compare the talent of previous years between the the two teams yours wouldn't have a chance. Come on man generational talent?

30.) 15 Mar 2018
15 Mar 2018 17:03:05
I never said leafs had generational talent lol I said you can’t recognoze it apparently. I can see all around the league and the history of hockey to see it. Your view just revolves around one team, which is why I said all you have seen in that category is 2 goalies. And Clarke was phillys captain in the 70s and 80s. Clark was ours in the 90s, but you never saw the name spelt on the back of a habs jersey, so that’s too far outside your comfort zone to know anything about, forgiven.

31.) 15 Mar 2018
15 Mar 2018 18:22:50
It was still funny to think a leaf fan like yourself would know anything about generational talent. You should stick to the stuff you do know. I'm not sure what that would be but there has got to be something lol.

32.) 15 Mar 2018
15 Mar 2018 18:31:45
And sorry for adding an e to Clark did you have to look through your retired player index to figure out who I was talking about? i mean I just used my brain to figure out who Gilbert Bruce and ryan stein were lol. But I totally understand how the extra E could be confusing for you.