22 Feb 2018 09:36:01
So not that I want to trade karlsson but I did hear this one a couple times now and not only is it more realistic than every trade you people post but it gives value to both teams.

Ott: karlsson, Ryan.

Tbl: point, sergachev, and the next 3 years of first rounders.

And this is an actually real rumor said to be a possibility

I wouldn't mind adding Paul to Ottawa's side to get my hometown boy Matthew peca out of Tampa and into ottawa.

1.) 22 Feb 2018
22 Feb 2018 11:20:27
No from Tampa, unless EK has an extension.

- that's three first round picks first of all.
- Sergachev has all the makings of a top 2 dman (not as good as EK but still the makings of a top 2)
- Point is 21 and PPG. don't think theyd be inclined to give him up.

Imo, without an extension, that's a definite no from Tampa. Even with an extension, I don't know if the cap works, considering EK and Ryan would total about 17 million, while the others total less then 3 million.

Just can't see Tampa tearing down what they've built to take 1.5 years of a guy and an enormous cap dump. I mean, if this happened and I was a TB fan, i'd be pretty pissed.

2.) 22 Feb 2018
22 Feb 2018 11:35:01
Only if he is extended does he get that much John Rambo. Especially if you’re sending dead weight with him to Tampa.

3.) 22 Feb 2018
22 Feb 2018 11:54:12
Huge no for karlsson.
If you add Ryan to that trade your not going get as much as you think.

4.) 22 Feb 2018
22 Feb 2018 12:54:31
Not sure if you are trolling or serious.

Given that Point and Serg are cost controlled and Karlsson is going to be looking for mega bucks on his next deal, I would not trade them straight up for Karlsson. Adding Ryan in the deal materially impacts any value Ottawa will get back. Few teams in the league have the cap space to take on that kind of a hit, and even fewer would be in a position where it makes sense to do so. The cost of someone taking that horrific contract off Ottawa’s hands would be a first round pick, at minimum. And you add 3 1st round picks?

You may have to change your name Rambo, because you are clearly biased. Brutal proposal. Tampa laughs till you hang up.

5.) 22 Feb 2018
22 Feb 2018 13:02:42
It was also stated that ottawa would be best served trading Karlsson without the addition of a cap dump would make for the best return. Also i cannot see Point added. Tampa has cup aspirations and aren't likely to be sdding one of there top 5 point forwards. I can see Sergachev, Howden, Foote orcthat Libor Hajek guy and a 1st for Karlsson.

6.) 22 Feb 2018
22 Feb 2018 13:13:19
They are saying that if the team takes Ryan too you get a discount. You aren't getting that return with Ryan included.

7.) 22 Feb 2018
22 Feb 2018 17:29:46
I agree with FT4A.
Accurate assessment of the situation.

8.) 22 Feb 2018
22 Feb 2018 18:21:52
Terrible for tampa.

9.) 24 Feb 2018
24 Feb 2018 08:46:01
How is this terrible for Tampa?

Bobby Ryan = one bad season and injury plagued this season are his cons. but his pros include being a solid playoff performer, and a consistent 50 to 60 point player each season when healthy. bad contract gets cancelled out by packaging with generational talent.

Erik Karlsson - best defenceman in the world, generational talent, can instantly add credibility to any team and make them a contender single handedly, he and hedman have experience playing together and would instantly become the kuch stammer of the back end in Tampa, are some of his pros. one bad season early in career and one bad season now don't change his value and are his only cons

Point and sergachev are having magnified seasons as both are playing with the best duo and one of the best defenceman in the game right now so naturally they will look better than they are not that they aren't good but without kuch stammer and hedman point is around dzingle level and sergachev will be great but Chabot will be better.

The 3 1sts are definitely a necessity as Tampa will not be finishing in bottom 10 anytime soon esp if they were to add EK making their 1st rounders a lot less valuable than any other team.

Cap space might be an issue down the road but who's to say there's no way around that? Maybe a 3 way deal where Tampa flips Ryan to Vegas for a pick or 2?

As a sens fan I would never take any less than this for our best player pretty much since they returned to the league. we'd be crazy to accept less.