09 Jan 2018 23:22:46
Tavares is rumored to be traded by deadline.

Ottawa players brassard Smith and Ceci all drawing legit interest from around the league.

Nyi: Tavares

Ott: brassard, Ceci, Smith, white

Isles get a top 6 center, top 4 young defenceman who's starting to look like he can reach the potential originally seen in him, an elite prospect center, and a big body physical guy who can play anywhere in the line up, rather than losing him to free agency for nothing.

Then ottawa trades burrows who has also been drawing league interest for a 3rd or 4th. and dumps Phaneuf for what ever they can get. then MacArthur retires.

Dzingle Tavares stone
Hoffman Duchene Ryan
Chlapic pageau pyatt
Dumont kelly Thompson

Karlsson oduya
Wideman Chabot
Claeson borowieski

Then aim for dahlin in the lottery or the back up plan of Brady tkechuck (if I even spelled that Right lol)

With the contracts dumped they should have more than enough money to resign stone EK and Tavares and have some left over for the future.

Keep in mind Tavares is getting traded anyway, meet York will want to remain competitive now rather than fall into a total rebuild, and considering what stars have gone for lately it's doubtful they'll get a better offer for him than this.

1.) 10 Jan 2018
09 Jan 2018 23:32:52
I don't know what your hearing and that return is horrible 3 decling players and a decent prospect for Tavares a top 10 player in the league maybe top 5 right now no way.

2.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 00:13:20
I definitely think they should dump smith but the Islanders might hold on to Tavares after all. Regardless I think this is not one of the situations where a team is looking for quantity, so the Senators would have to offer up something better than what they do in this hypothetical.

3.) 10 Jan 2018
09 Jan 2018 23:39:08
You really think that's the best offer the Islanders would get for Tavares?


4.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 00:29:49
Hahahaha like wtf tho no from Islanders this is terrible.

5.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 00:58:19
Why would you loose the farm on JT when you can buy him in a couple years!

6.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 01:13:49
Ya. no from Isles. Also. do you think that Chris Kelly still plays for the sens?

7.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 02:40:40
That's not the farm and Tavares is free this summer buddy.

8.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 05:17:51
I think a lot of people overate half a season of Tavares.

9.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 06:16:51
Nylander again you prove to know nothing. Keep it up. Tavares is a franchise player (no Marner is not) and he’s a top 10 player in the world. Bruh.

10.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 10:12:43
His contract is up at seasons end, he already made public he has no intentions of resigning a contract with new York, no team in their right mind is going to pay top dollar for a rental player sorry to tell you guys.

Ottawa has the guys that can be dumped and not cripple the team doing so.

And what declining players are you even talking about canucks?

Ceci - on the rise and getting better not on decline.

Brassard and smith - both as consistent as ever and also not near a decline.

White - elite level prospect with potential to reach top 6 or even top 3 center.

The most a rental usually gets is a roster player, a decent prospect, and a mid to late 1st. here they get a roster player in Smith an elite prospect in white a top 4 d in Ceci and a top 6 center in brassard so yeah I do think this is the best they could get for Tavares if he doesn't come fully signed.

Oh as for Ceci value here's a news flash, he was supposed to have been traded a couple years ago to Edmonton straight up for taylor hall but having to wait for approval from owner ultimately costed them as devils sweeper him up. considering he has improved since then I'd say his value went up too.

11.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 11:23:14
Stop. Overating. Your. Players.

Its annoying buddy.

Ceci ain't on the rise. All Sens fans i see on Ig/ twitter are harping on him and the pairing of him/ Oduya. he's probabky a good number 4 dman, but nothing really more.

Brassaed and Smith ain't as consistent as ever. Brassard is an okay 2nd line centre or very good 3rd liner, but nothing more. he's nowhere near elite 'consistent status', and the downgrade frok tavares to him is huge. And Smith is merely a cup dump, don't play him up, he's 3 million for a 4th lime centre, similar to Marcus Kruger.

And White ain't an 'elite prospect'. he's a good prospect, a high end guy for sure, but i'd put him in the same boat as guys like Julian Gauthier or Sam Steel. Elite would be guys like Miro Heiskanen or others like that.

Basically, with the cap dump of Smith, that makes up from the addition of Ceci. This is basically Brassard + White for Tavares. No way NYI accepts. They'd be either trading JT for a boatload of picks/ prospects, or, for a star player in return.

Sorry i had to rant, but its getting frustarting seeing you overvalue Ottawa players despite everyoje saying their valeus are less than what you percieve em as.

12.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 12:11:59
Rambo Cecis value has fallen off a cliff last couple years. He simply isn't that good. Also A) that was with Chia and he's an awful GM and B) Sens refused Drouin for Ceci and people were on board. So thank you. You think that's still where his value is? So glad we got Sergachev instead.

13.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 17:48:54
I never said brassard or Smith were elite players topshelfslappers, I said they were consistent at their level which is a difference.

There is absolutely no way newly York gets Top dollar for a guy who remains unsigned, espessially one at Tavares level. no team will give more than that for him unless he's fully signed to a new contract, why would they take that chance of giving an all star package for a chance he signs with them as if he walks, they just gutted their team for nothing.

As for Smith and white, you're undervaluing white as he is for sure an elite prospect, why do you think Colorado was pursuing him and Chabot so heavily in Duchene garbage?
And Smith has been and still is one of the sens most sought after trade chips because he's a big body physical guy who can play any role on any line you need him to.
If you watch tsn and any of the sports shows let alone the game itself you'd already know this.

I'm not over valuing anyone I'm simply giving their actual value rather than the underrated values that seem to be perceived by people like you who think they know something but in reality know nothing.

14.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 17:58:06
Like for instance I remember someone a while back saying Ceci wasn't worth a high 2nd round pick let alone a 1st, yet reality seemed to agreed with me in that a trade of Ceci straight up for Drouin was rejected by sens, and if not for ownership approved being needed first their was a deal made with Edmonton that would have seen Taylor hall for Ceci straight up.

Call me crazy but proposals of Ceci for a 1st look like a low ball offer compared to these 2 deals don't they? And Ceci has definitely gotten better since then espessially this season so his value has to have gone up or at the very least no way it's gone down.

15.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 19:22:02
Cici has NOT gotten better in the last two seasons. He's gotten way worse. He had value two years ago because he then still was supposed to be pretty good, a lot better than he is now. He still had that thing called potential two years ago and that's what made him a little valuable. Two years later we know what the potential is. And it sure as rubbish isn't improved. Lol. That's hilarious.

And yes. You overvalue your Players drastically.

Zack Smith has 3G, 6A, 9P in 27 games and is a -15.
Career 155 points in 501 games played.
Making $3.25M a year for the next 3 seasons after this one WITH a modified NTC. He's nothing special man.
I really like the player, and would like him in my bottom six, but not for $3.25M for that production. He doesn't have much value with all things considered, production and salary and term.

16.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 19:40:13
Cmon rambo.

this is the equivelant of bozak, komarov, carrick, kapanen and a 2nd for tavares. its so bad. stop being so biased towards sens players.

17.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 20:13:57
Ok. Born and raised Sens fan from Ottawa here. First off with Duchene, Stone and Karlsson needing large contracts (7m, 7m, 12m) soon and 2 very ugly contracts on our books with Ryan, Phaneuf and another few smaller 2 year no trade contracts for players like Thompson and Burrows ( who is not going to get us a bag a pucks let alone a 3rd. ) we are in no position to take on Tavares nor would he likely wanna be here after this year.

I love that we got so close last year to making it to the stanley cup final but give your head a shake and come back down to earth. We gave away Methot for squat, lost wingels, Stalberg and macarthur as well.

Dorion and Melnyk are killing us. Gives away Karlssons partner and gives up Turris, First (protected if top 10) and a First rd'r (bowers) for Duchene.

realistically/ hopefully we trade away people who have value but are not essential like Hoffman, Smith and ceci and try to dump Phaneuf or Ryans contract somehow.

Brassard has value because he is am inexpensive centre on the books but because of that as well and the fact our owner is cheap he is likely not going anywhere.

18.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 20:07:58
1) He has never said he has no intention of signing in New York, in fact the exact opposite. He keeps saying he wants to (whether that’s the truth or not is to be seen)

2) Tavares is not being overrated on half a season, has been a star in a shitty market for a long time.

3) Ottawa has a superstar player who I highly doubt is going to be there this time next year, and these players talk to each other. No other star is going to sign there if their own drafted and developed guy feels slighted there.

4) islanders might (especially if this is the return) keep JT for the playoff run the way they are going, and have a handshake deal (like yzerman and stamkos had) with him that if he wants to leave come July, he can negotiate his contract with any team he wants and they do a sign and trade through NYI.

This gives islanders a cpl assets, gives the other team the player they really want and gives Tavares a chance to get the 8th year in his contract he couldn’t otherwise get.

19.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 22:14:10
As a sens fan from ottawa i agree 100% with frippers view, man that was well said.

20.) 12 Jan 2018
12 Jan 2018 22:00:49
I never said Tavares is over rated he's elite no doubt that's not in question when it comes to his trade value. what is in question is his unsigned contract status which WILL bring down his value I don't care how elite a player he is.

Think of it from team management perspective. you offer your best player 3 different contract extensions with your club all of which he turns down without a sencond thought the biggest of which was 12.35 million per season, yes this was the latest offer, do you

A-keep him anyway and pray he changes his mind or let him walk away for nothing in free agency


B-take an offer such as this one that keeps your team competitive now as well as gives you a big piece for the future

Most if not all gems will go with option b

Look at spezza deal when he was moved to Dallas. still in his prime and all he got was chaison a pick and paul and he was a point a game guy at the time too and he had a term contract.

21.) 13 Jan 2018
13 Jan 2018 18:24:10
It's beyond me where you guys get your value ratings from.

Its like when it comes to the ottawa players only, you base their value solely on the players worst career seasons, ignoring every other thing it should be based on thus resulting in you low ball ratings of sens players value.

News flash guys, a players value, no matter what team they play for, is NOT defined by 1 bad season. it is defined by the players overall effectiveness, consistency, ability to affect the game, career totals, in some cases team needs, and Yes, like in Tavares case, term of contract.

One bad season doesn't affect their value what so ever!