07 Jan 2018 20:19:41
I posted similar proposals a while back and got mixed reviews. With the position the Oilers are in I think the Leafs/Oilers could help each other. I'd really like to see the leafs have some more grit, especially if they make the playoffs. The Oilers could use more speed and talented wingers.

Kapanen, 2nd for Nurse?
Kapanen, Gardiner for Nurse, 3rd?

Are either of these fair? Oiler fans have said there is a lot of depth on LD, maybe they could give up Nurse to bring in Kapanen. In the 2nd trade they replace Nurse with a mobile defenseman and add Kapanen. I know the leafs are looking for a RH defenseman but IMO this will improve their team while waiting for Liljegren to develop.

1.) 07 Jan 2018
07 Jan 2018 20:24:24
I mean if I had to choose one of the two it would clearly be the second one where Edmonton gets back Gardiner and Kapanen, and i'd personally do that in a heartbeat. Nurse is starting to look like a good player lately he’s one of the few bright spots for the oilers this year but I think oilers could benefit more from the way Gardiner plays which is way more offensive. And oilers have terrible prospect pool and Kapanen would be a nice addition with no RW depth.

2.) 07 Jan 2018
07 Jan 2018 20:51:45
Lol. The Oilers aren't trading Nurse right now. If they were it would be in a package for a better D man coming back. Not a few smaller pieces.

3.) 07 Jan 2018
07 Jan 2018 20:57:08
I would call for Chiarelis head if he made one of those trades.

4.) 07 Jan 2018
07 Jan 2018 21:31:45
I’d also expect a better package but if I had to pick of the two for sure the second one imo.

5.) 07 Jan 2018
07 Jan 2018 21:52:16
Yea Oilers gets fleeced.

6.) 07 Jan 2018
07 Jan 2018 22:27:24
I just think Nurse is an immovable asset for the oilers.

7.) 08 Jan 2018
07 Jan 2018 22:55:39
I’ll take Gardiner 10/ 10 times over Nurse but I’d do the 1st deal in a heartbeat.

8.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 00:17:14
Nurse can easily get a better package

9.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 00:54:59
Sorry yup, but Gardiner is not too bad either. I know points don’t mean everything but take a look at them when you get a chance. Call for Chiarelli’s head is a little dramatic like you usually are. Kapanen could skate circles around half of the forwards on your team right now. By the way, you tube Darnell Nurse fights and see if he ever takes the visor off. He fought Reaves, Shaw, Haley all while the other guy didn’t have a visor, with plenty of time to take it off. He must be a d bag like Kadri. No need to be one yourself cause it’s me posting. I could understand not wanting to move Nurse because he is one of your teams few bright spots, but don’t make it sound like he is a Drew Doughty or something. Craig Button had so many wonderful things to say about the Oilers, I thought maybe some speed up front and on defense would help. You’ve made 3 trade rumours in 5 years so tone it down a notch.

10.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 01:13:17
Why do you just reply to me? What's with your small hard on for me man? 5 out of 6 people commented wouldn't trade Nurse for what you proposed. If Kapanen is so great then keep him, If I'm trading Nurse its in a deal that's upgrading him or for a legit top 6 winger. Not Kapanen.
Lmao. You're hilarious man.
I've never once hinted Nurse is like a Doughty, I'm not that stupid. You whine a lot towards me. You entertain me. These deals are terrible for Nurse, you're coming out ahead and you know it. That's why you posted.

11.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 01:14:13
@McJ you changed your tune quite a bit after yup posted. No need to agree with your fearless leader all the time. You and Ebs are usually pretty solid Oiler fans. Maybe my proposal is off but like you originally said, Gardiner’s style of play could be what the Oilers need and Kapanen could be in most teams top 9.

12.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 01:31:35
I think Gardiner is being undervalued here. Yup acting very dramatic and above all as usual.

13.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 03:24:18
Gotta agree with leafs17 on this.

14.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 03:53:28
I don't agree with leafs17

15.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 04:21:48
You’re way off like usual chirp. Flamers and Key habs disagree, no problem. Pavelec thinks Nurse is an immovable piece which I can understand. McJ would take the deal with Gardiner “in a heart beat. ” (Oiler fan no? ) Nylander would take Gardiner over Nurse straight up. Where’s the 5 of 6 people? Are you looking at disagrees cause you should know how that works. Your comments to people are why you have people calling you out on a daily basis, not just myself. I think I explained why I posted the rumour. Toronto needs grit IMO, Oilers need speed. I also said they could help each other. The 2 players offered are good players, even though they wear blue and white. Maybe Edmonton should sit back and watch the season go by? Did you look up Nurse fights? Always a pleasure!

16.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 04:55:52
It's not a rumor! It's your suggestion. Lol
And it's terrible! Nurse isn't available.

17.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 05:06:05
When I commented 5/ 6 McJ, Keyhabs, Pavalec, Flamers and me said this was bad. You and Nylander said is was believable. Sorry, that's 5/ 7 if you include yourself.
5 out of 7 comments at that point said its bad for Edm.

They are decent players, I never said they weren't.
But the Oilers aren't making Nurse available for them. Chierelli would be run out of town instantly for it.

18.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 05:58:15
Read McJ’s original reply again. You like to pick and choose what to read. You call keyhabs delusional on a regular basis but now he’s credible? No offence to him. Anyways, I thought it would help both teams. It’s not like I offered two grizzled veterans. Gardiner puts up respectable #’s every year and Kapanen has shown he can play. Both are young, smooth skaters. Your comment about keeping Kapanen if he’s so good shows you don’t have a clue. Teams trade from a position of strength. Just curious what you think they should do? Go for another 1st overall? There may only be one player on that team not available when Chiarelli is run out of town.

19.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 12:21:20
The proposition is terrible? Well so are the Oilers this year. Every team, when in a state of freefall, will tend to make trades that do not bode well for themselves,

They clearly aren't winning with this core @yup. I haven't seen anyone say Nurse is an immovable asset. Aren't your top two dman Larsson and Klefbom? Why is Nurse so immovable, especially considering the team needs offensive dmen like Gardiner, and skilled forwards like Kapanen. Come on. Nurse isn't a top dman, and he isn't going to be. he's a top4 dman, and honestly, the 2nd deal is pretty fair.

The Oilers need to shakeup. You can't just keep saying no to every Oilers trade.

20.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 14:53:02
Actually Nurse and Larsson I would say are out 1-2, when considering who is available or not. Nurse is 22 and showing signs this year now of becoming what we hope he will. I would say Klefbom is available tho, but in a package with a equal or better RHD coming back not this stuff proposed by Leafs17. Nurse is considered part of the core. I agree we need a shake up, But it's not going to be Nurse. Lol.

No, no these deals aren't fair and they don't make the Oilers better. They aren't giving away 22 year old nurse who is improving big time this year for those pieces. I would say maybe to Klefbom because I think he could be made available, not nurse, for this.
I wouldn't trade Klefbom for this stuff either tbo. Would be in a deal for a better return.

21.) 08 Jan 2018
08 Jan 2018 19:57:23
That’s a more reasonable explanation yup. If you didn’t come out like it was the worst trade suggestion in NHL history, we’d all have some respect for you. Not that you care about that anyways but I was trying to help both our teams needs. Looking back, I think my first proposal should have been Kapanen and a 1st instead for Nurse. The second proposal I still think is fair and so do others. I guess that’s why you and I are not GM’s.

22.) 09 Jan 2018
09 Jan 2018 15:05:52
Oilers say no, gardiners a plug. if kapanen is so great, keep him.