27 Dec 2017 19:19:59
Ari: domi, ari 1st 2018, ari 2nd 2018

Ott: Hoffman, brassard, white

Ottawa has over abundance of centers and prospect centers

Arizona could use a 2nd line center like brassard, Hoffman gives them the scoring they need and they get a blue chip center prospect in white.

Ottawa offloads some cap space so they can sign their other players while receiving a lottery pick (possibly team is dahlin if they are lucky at the lottery) and a tough winger who can also provide some offence in domi (PLUS it's a shot at Toronto getting ties kid lol)

1.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 19:27:24
I don't like it for either team lol.

2.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 20:34:45
With the season Arisona has. no chance you guys get their pick for that
Again well off balance in favor of Ottawa.

3.) 28 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 23:03:37
lool . yes please. i would gladly do that. Potentially Dahlen, + domi plus the 32nd pick? hell yes.

4.) 28 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 23:10:04
I wouldn't do it for Ottawa's sake too. Hoffman alone can get a first and a second.

5.) 28 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 23:10:46
Then you throw domi (3 goals this season) for brassard and White (A level prospect)

6.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 05:17:46
What? Hoffman can't get you Arizona 1st and their 2nd. Dream on. Why on earth would they trade those pieces for two years of Hoffman?

7.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 06:14:13
Yup you do realize Hoffman is a 60 point guy on a team that only has 2 or 3 other legit threats only one of which has been above 70 points in his career right? Hoffman is more an enough to land the 1st. it's not a guarenteed number 1 overall pick just look at last season's draft or the Matthews draft the season before. Hoffman on the other hand IS a guarenteed 1st or 2nd line winger on all teams and in no way is worth any less than a lotto pick so get over yourself with you poor player ratings.

Brassard and white more than cover the 2nd and domi.

Ottawa don't necessarily need white with all the talent they have at center and coming up and brassard is a good 2nd line center whose cap hit could be used to extend karlsson. he also has played with Stephan in the past and could bring back so competitiveness with the 2 over top spot in Phoenix.

8.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 06:25:14
Point of the trade for ottawa is to increase their odds of getting number pick in lottery as it's not a guarenteed and they still have the possible protected pick from Duchene deal that could end up being lotto pick too. having 2 gives them better odds of landig it hoffman is enough to get one whether you agree or not yupp. doing would be more usefull in ottawa while brassard and white would fit better with Arizona.

9.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 08:13:44
No from Arizona. Don't know why'd they'd give up the best chance at the first overall pick for 1 year of Brassard, 2 years of Hoffman and White. It isn't like they are trying to win now. Not to mention they give up a young player in Domi and the earliest second round pick. got to think about the long run. Domi, and whoever the first round pick is should be there 7-10+ years each. Not guaranteed to resign the two Sens players. White is good but not worth giving up a potential franchise player. Also it's weird from Ottawa giving up part of the future to get the future. Makes more sense trading veterans individually.

10.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 14:22:00
Who wants veterans other then teams in a playoff position. You probably would get less as these teams won't want to break their existing chemistry. I kinda like the trade.

11.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 14:23:11
Second line centres aren't worth a top 5 draft pick. Neither is Hoffman. Yotes would be dumb to trade this years 1st rounder.

12.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 14:40:52
Wow. Never ever would Arizona trade their 1st and 2nd this year right now for a 60 point winger who's a UFA after next season. That's delusional.
Maybe would be believable if you picked a middle 1st rounder, playoff bubble team But you went right after the worst team in the league. Not a chance they trade that pick for Hoffman alone.

13.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 14:53:58
I'd rather play my cards for Dahlin than be guarranteed Hoffman. Pretty obvious. If the 1st is lottery protected, then its a fair deal.

14.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 15:23:25
Saying Hoffman can get a 1st and a 2nd isn’t wrong, if it’s coming from a good team trying to compete. That first should be a 20th pick or worse, and the second would be in the 50s. But saying a team as bad as Arizona would give a 1st and 2nd, which could be 1st overall, but will be top 4-5 for sure and another in the 32-36 range for a guy that might make them a bit better today, but still no where near competitive is not happening.

15.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 18:23:24
Flyers they may have the best chance at this point in time sure but the way ottawa has be playing lately I wouldn't be surprised if the dropped below Phoenix by seasons end and like you said "best CHANCE" of getting it as it's not a guarenteed.

Besides that Phoenix has defence they desperately need offence which Hoffman brassard and white would no doubt provide

Ottawa needs defence and toughness deperately which would be taken care of by domi (toughness and can reignite his scoring touch with a change of scenery), and (upping their chances at dahlin)

The 2nd pick might not necessarily even ever make the nhl.

In my opinion this does help both teams long term. worst case scenario for Arizona is if brassard isn't working in their system they just flip him in off season or next season. Hoffman will definitely be solid no doubt and white will be top 6 maybe even top 3 one day. both teams either way need big changes soon.

16.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 20:08:11
SensBiasedRambo.
Change your name bro.

17.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 20:58:34
you guys aren't getting the next Lidstrom dream on Ottawa.