17 Dec 2017 21:32:51
If karlsson were to have to be traded.

Ott:
Karlsson, Hoffman, brassard

Stl:
Pietrangelo, taresenko, sobotka

Then.

Ott:
Ryan, Paul

Col:
Landeskog


Landeskog Duchene taresenko
Smith Brown Stone
Sobotka pageau pyatt
Burrows Thompson dzingle

Chabot pietrangelo
Phaneuf Ceci
Any combo of
Wideman claeson borvievski harpur oduya

Stl downgrade taresenko to upgrade both pietrangelo and sobotka

Lol and put swap slightly over paid stars and ottawa sweetened the deal by adding Paul to get landeskog as he has had chemistry with Duchene in the past.

1.) 18 Dec 2017
17 Dec 2017 23:29:14
To me Pietrangelo is the better and younger defence man Stl say son.

2.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 00:03:56
Huge no from blues petro and tarasenko make together just a little more than what karlson will command in another year. Petro is signed at 6.5 for next 3 years and 5 years of tarasenko for 7.5.

No reason blues do this.

3.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 00:10:24
I don't think STL even considers that.

4.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 00:23:21
No from St. Louis.

5.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 01:26:05
To the guy who said pietrangelo was better, where do you buy your drugs from?
Only 2 players in the world can be considered better than karlsson and their names are Connor mcdavid and Sidney Crosby. sorry to burst your bubble buddy.

The comment about cap hits has a solid argument but think of it this way, karlsson contract for pietrangelo contract both after karlsson resign = roughly 12.5 to 13 million vs 6.5 million. now think what jay boumeester will be leaving on the table when his contract is up, isn't his over played deal worth like 6.85 million. use the extra there to sign karlsson. then they save roughly 2.4 million on the Hoffman taresenko exchange but still get a top line winger at a cheaper rate. not quite sure what sobotka makes so I can't really compare that but brassard is still an upgrade on him.

Yup, any team that doesn't consider trading for karlsson if he were available should be in search of new management team. no way stl don't consider this. lol.

6.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 03:27:23
There is a lot to consider when trading for a guy like Karlsson. yes. the money and term. however, he also changes he whole dynamic of your team. even as a Dman, he is one of the most talented offensive players in the game., so a team as a whole has to change somewhat to cater to the talent of a player like Karlsson. In the casè of the Blues. they have a really good thing going, and I don't think they need to change anything in the core or the style they play.

7.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 03:32:30
NoBiasRambo you got to be one of the most bias here. Karlsson has the edge on best D in league convo but its not that clear cut. Will every team consider trading for him? Of course not. In fact more probably won't because they aren't planning to compete, don't wanna give up that much, or can't afford him than will. And if he does go the move has to make the acquiring team better. This doesn't make St Louis better difference between Tarasenko and Hoffman is bigger than Karlsson and Pietrangelo. Also Ryan has low to negative value with that contract adding Paul doesn't get you Landy.

8.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 05:26:19
Rambo, come back to reality. Petro, is a superior dman on the defense side. Karlsson, is the superior offensive player. He is also like a -20 right now where petro is +12. As far as 13mil that's a huge no. They would have to gut their team they can't afford that. They have several people needing raises soon. Regardless of jbo''s contract coming off. Also tarasenko is amazing no way Hoffman holds a candle to him. This is an instant no go. You picked two of the four most important players on the blues and expect them for karlsson a 2nd liner and third liner lol your funny guy.

9.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 05:30:16
Also Rambo

Petros contract 3 years 6.5 with his play is better than the difference in between karlsson and Petros offensive game. Like I said petro is better on defence side hardly gets hurt and isn't going to command 12 13 mil. Plus on top of all of that what if he decides he doesn't want to sign like shattenkirk. So do us all a favor and think about all the variables involved before coming here and making a bad prop.

10.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 07:31:06
Very biased rambo

11.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 13:39:54
Blues would say no. As said above, Karlsson is great, but so is Pietrangelo. Both should be in anyone’s top 6-7 D in the league if they have watched them play. And Hoffman is a good winger, but tarasenko is one of the best in the world. Gap there is huge. Plus Sosa is dead on with the team dynamic. Blues are built around tarasenko and Pietrangelo and their entire game runs through those 2 guys, seems to be working. Those guys are not replaceable parts in that machine. Karlsson changes all that.

12.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 17:36:50
Jbs32 lady and Ryan have roughly equal value ryan may be coming off his worst regular season yet but in case you forgot landeskog is also coming off his worst season yet on an over payed contract as well. where does anyone get off saying landy worth that much more than ryan? And someone really needs to explain how outside an over payed contract and 1 bad season Ryan who is a 50 point guy on a regular basis or above 0.6points per game could possibly carry a negative value?

13.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 17:44:50
While karlsson is have a bad season defensively you do realise he is coming off a crazy surgery that has affected his game so far right? And before this season karlsson defencive game is so much better than anyone gave him credit for right? Sure his give away count was high but that's a broken stat anyway as anything from a failed dump and chase, to a failed scrum in the corners, to a penalty kill clear attempt could be considered a giveaway on the scoreboard. his blocked shots, +/ -, takeaways, etc were all considered top 10 to top 5 in the league. saying there is that big of a gave between their defensive games just shows how ignorant you are to the game and specifically sens players in general.

14.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 18:02:59
And as for Hoffman being a 2nd liner. go to the hospital and get them to see what's wrong with your head. the guy has a regular 0.71+ point per game average on a team with sub par offence. he's a 1st ling winger anywhere in the league guarenteed and sure there's a 0.2 ppg average difference between them but that's where the difference beween sobotka and brassard comes in and makes up for it.

The only other thing stated that makes any sense as to why this might not be good for stl is having to change style a bit to incorporate karlsson. but truth be told the positives out weigh the negatives long term. as their defense upgrades and sure they lose taresenko but they add depth to top 6 and still get a pure goal scorer with an insane set of hands that can bury it from anywhere. plus the 2 guys coming already have chemistry with karlsson on top of that so adjustment won't be tough for either of them. karlsson feeding Schwartz and schenn would be insane.

15.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 18:13:41
I never at all said they wouldn't consider trading for Karlsson. I said they wouldn't consider this deal. They wouldn't consider giving up Petro AND Terasenko in the deal. Of course they would consider trading for Karlsson. But once Ottawa asks for Petro and Senko, they stop considering, that deal. You misunderstood what I said they wouldn't consider.

16.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 23:09:54
Lol too funny!

17.) 18 Dec 2017
18 Dec 2017 23:18:09
Rambo, its very clear people agree with me if Karlsoon is a 10 petro is a 9.5 not and guess what 3 years of 6.5 worth more than 1 year of that and then 13 mil. Also petri isn't injury prone not that karlesson is but he is. And after this last surgery he looks awful on defence. Petro is better defender. Blues get plenty off offence from swartz schenn terrasenko. Your trade offer us bad bro just except it.

18.) 19 Dec 2017
19 Dec 2017 05:37:35
Its true redwing, he looks like a 29 year old playing with a bummed wheel. the other 30 teams aren't completely oblivious to that.

19.) 23 Dec 2017
23 Dec 2017 00:59:00
I think that the main idea is that if the Sens trade EK65 it will take a team's (not a specific team) 1 of top 3 Forward + 1 of top 2 Dman or top goalie + 1st 2018 or 2019. All the sports stations are saying that EK65 is 1 of the top 5 players in the world so I guess a lot of teams will be making offers or at least look into it.

The Sens should rest EK65 until he gets better. He won't be injured forever . However the trade offer is bad. I wouldn't trade with STL. I would trade him to a team that wants him.