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09 Nov 2017 22:02:05
The Duchene three-way deal just past. And I can't see a move like that happening again, with those kinds of names at least. However, a smaller three way deal could happen.

Toronto Maple Leafs Trade:
(C) Tyler Bozak - 50% Retained.
(LW) Joshua Leivo
2018 2nd Round Pick (lower of SJ/ TOR)

Vancouver Canucks Trade:
(D) Eric Gudbranson
(C) Alex Burmistrov
(LW) Thomas Vanek

Anaheim Ducks Trade:
(C) Dennis Rasmussen
(LW) Max Jones
2018 2nd Round Pick


Toronto Maple Leafs Acquire:
(D) Erik Gudbranson - sign to 4 year/ 14 million extension.
(C) Alex Burmistrov

Vancouver Canucks Acquire:
(LW) Max Jones
(C) Dennis Rasmussen
2018 2nd Round Pick (TOR/ SJ)
2018 2nd Round Pick (ANA)

Anaheim Ducks Acquire:
(C) Tyler Bozak - 50% Retained.
(LW) Thomas Vanek
(LW) Joshua Leivo

Why for Toronto?
Bozak is excess offence. Marleau has started playing centre. They need defensemen, shutdown guys nonetheless. Gudbranson is an RFA after this season, and he doesn't seem all that wanted in Vancouver - apparently, he was offered to Florida for Demers. He, alongside Gardiner, could be nice, as he plays defence with no offence, and Gardiner plays offence with holes on defence. Leivo is excess depth, which is nice, but with Sosh's Russia Clause, I'd like to see Sosh as the depth guy - he's still servicable. The pick is eh.

Why for Vancouver?
Yeah, they're doing good. But they don't have the high-octane team that'll propel them anywhere in the playoffs. It's better to tank now. Trading three guys who have decent values due to good starts will bring in a good haul. Erik Gudbranson is a guy who they weren't keen on, Vanek was an offseason addition, and Burmistrov was another offseason addition. Getting the most out these guys from a desperate team is what is needed. And Anaheim is that desperate. Eaves, Getz and Kesler all missing time atm. Max Jones is a solid player who could be a nice 3rd liner checker in the future. 2nd Round Picks are nice to have, especially to stock the cupboard, and they could help if Vancouver wants to move up in the draft.

Why for Anaheim?
Desperation. Offence is bleeding. Derek GRANT is your fourth highest scoring player. You need offence in any way possible. This isn't a rebuilding or retooling team. This team is supposed to be a monster in the West. Adding patchwork guys like Bozak and Vanek helps in the short term to patch up the offensive woes, and when guys like Eaves/ Getz/ Kesler come back, they become rentals who will help on the playoff run. Josh Leivo is a nice incentive as well, as he'll probably stay on with the team as a third liner, even past this year. It's a lot to give up (former first rounder and a future second), but it's needed if Anaheim wants to get back in the race.

10 Nov 2017 04:31:59
Holy F this is great for the Leafs,
Both other teams say no.

10 Nov 2017 11:26:57

But, i mean, Gudbranson is like 100% gone by the deadline - even THG said it. They have a new core of Tanev, Stecher, Hutton, Pouliot, Juolevi (next year at least) and Edler. I genuinely don't see how Vancouver makes out like bandits on this one. Toronto gives up an average of a 40+ point guy, a decent 3rd line guy and a 2nd for Gudbranson, who doesn't even have a point this year.

Vancouver gets a prospect and two seconds, which is a pretty good haul for three expiring contracts.

And anaheim is super desperate, look at their team. Max Jones won't crack the team for a while.

So please, just tell me why this trade is so 'holy f'in' in favour of Toronto. And please, tell me how I could improve it.

11 Nov 2017 00:19:22
Gubrandson isn’t great good bottom pairing dman.

08 Nov 2017 11:05:47
Even with the addition of Duchene (which i'm over the moon about), we still need someone who can play in the top 6 and put up points.

OTT: Smith
FLA: Vrbata, 4th

Hoffman - Duchene - Ryan
Vrbata - Brassard - Stone
Dzingel - Pageau - Didominico
Pyatt - Thompson - Burrows

08 Nov 2017 11:29:17
Lol no.

08 Nov 2017 11:36:08
Wait a sec why would Florida be the team adding a 4th?

08 Nov 2017 13:23:55
because he's 37.

08 Nov 2017 22:21:18
Nah, I'd keep smith rather than Vrbata just bcz of age

08 Nov 2017 03:57:43
1st Trade:
Golden Knights Acquire:
• Fredrick Gaudreau
• 1st Round Pick

Predators Acquire:
• James Neal

2nd Trade:
Panthers Acquire:
• Craig Smith
• 3rd Round Pick

Predators Acquire:
• Radim Vrbata

3rd Trade:
Flames Acquire:
• Colton Sissons
• 2nd Round Pick

Predators Acquire:
• Sam Bennett

Forsberg - Johansen - Arvidsson
Neal - Turris - Vrbata
Hartnell - Bennett - Fiala
Salomaki - Jarnkrok - Watson

08 Nov 2017 04:34:46
If Golden Knights wanted Neal they would have made a deal for Vegas to not take him. Sending them a prospect or something.

Sissons alone has more value to Preds right now than Bennet. He is playing second line center right now while Bonino is out (before they got Turris) . Sissons was very good for them in the playoffs. They value him a lot. Bennett meanwhile doesn't even have 1 pony yet this year and is -5.

25 Oct 2017 14:53:34
To Florida: Galchenyuk
To mtl: Trochek

25 Oct 2017 16:35:06
I wouldn't do that for mtl unless Bjug was added as a small add. If we get 2 okay center for Chuck I'd do it but not just one.

25 Oct 2017 17:46:01
Really Goodnights? I think Trochek has more value. maybe not the skill. but., Galchenyuks skill is useless if he doesn't use it.

25 Oct 2017 17:59:53
Trochek has more value than Galchenyuk right now.

25 Oct 2017 21:14:40
Yup are you high or u just hate habs.

22 Oct 2017 21:11:27
Pittsburgh- 2nd, niemi

Florida- James Reimer

23 Oct 2017 15:01:29
Don't think there's a fit from either side. With penguins cap situation every year I doubt they want to commit 4 years to a back up. And on the other side, Luongo isn't washed up yet, but he's not getting any younger, and his days of 70 starts are definitely behind him. That's why panthers made that kind of commitment to Reimer in the first place. Don't think they want Niemi as plan B if Lou gets hurt or tired.

11 Oct 2017 04:19:47
Flo) Yandle
Mtl) Gallagher

Habs lineup

Patch Drouin Lehkonen
Chucky Danault Scherbak
Hudon Plekanec Shaw

Yandle Weber
Alzner Petry

The reason why I put Scherbak is because he can have a complexity with Chucky

Florida find their RW to play with Hub and Barkov

Yandle is one of the best offensive defenders so lot of excuses

11 Oct 2017 13:16:38
Why does Florida do that?

11 Oct 2017 20:05:16
If I were Montreal I would keep Gallagher. Go after one of the Vegas den to add depth on third or second pairing. Also gunnerson may be available by deadline. Or jaybo the following year if Dunn and walman progress.

24 Sep 2017 14:16:59
McCoshen.I, 2nd-2018

Panthers need secondary scoring and have the cap space to resign JVR.
McCoshen would start out as Panthers 6 or 7 dman so they can afford the loss

McCoshen.I, Leivo.J, Johnson.A

Canucks get 2 NHL ready players(1 dman 1 forward) and a good prospect to help their Retool plus free up some cap space



24 Sep 2017 16:48:40
Not enough return for JVR, Not enough return for tanev.

24 Sep 2017 17:24:18
The Leafs aren't going to give JVR away.

25 Sep 2017 01:41:22
No from Toronto / Vancouver

23 Sep 2017 14:43:59
Mtl) Galchenyuk + 1st
Fla) Huberdeau

I really don't think Florida is going to accept tho


Mtl) Scherbak
for top 4-6 LD prospect

Mtl) Gallagher + 2d
Ari) Duclair

Arizona did similar trades with Stepan and Hjalmarson

Thats it... u get rid of all the Russians

Patch Drouin Hemsky
Huberdeau Danault Duclair
Hudon Plekanec Lehkonen

Jerabek Weber
Alzner Petry
Gélinas/Schlemko Benn


23 Sep 2017 15:40:05
Chucky and a 1st for Huberdeau? Waaaay too much. I think Huberdeau's value is just slightly higher than Galchenyuk's. As for the 2nd trade, huge overpayment by the Habs. As of right now, I'm pretty sure that Gallagher's value is higher than Duclair.

23 Sep 2017 19:27:14
Looking at those three lines you might have just made the team worse! Lol.

23 Sep 2017 23:11:35
get rid of the russians? first off, galchenyuk is american. secondly gallagher is canadian.
make the 2nd in the gallagher trade a 3rd instead
change the 1st in the galchenyuk trade a 2nd.

24 Sep 2017 02:03:08
If you see hemsky rocking the top line with the habs this year, you're delusional.

24 Sep 2017 08:50:17
1. Gallagher is worth more than Duclair.
2. Too much for Huberdeau
3. They ain't Russian lool

24 Sep 2017 23:58:20
That team is definitely worse after your trades lol and. a Canadian, an American and a Russian walk into a bar, Keyhabs calls them all Russian.

25 Sep 2017 07:58:39
that'll never happen . Gallagher despite not being a top scorer is valuable to the Habs .

Galchenyuk, might be possible . He's not into it this year and is struggling . Word is that Habs signed him to add value for trade benefits. Anyway, Galchenyuk would love to play in Florida, he lives there during the off season .

17 Sep 2017 21:43:58
McGinn for Demers (12% Retained)

Eek. Bad for Panthers.

17 Sep 2017 21:53:51
Panthers have made some questionable moves. But I think they're just wanting to rid of salary on this one. Maybe they want to set up for a bigger move maybe during season or deadline?

18 Sep 2017 06:25:53
I think they wanted to clear cap like Yup said above and also Ian McCoshen looks ready for full time so maybe Demers became expendable with McCoshen's arrival.

18 Sep 2017 11:06:00
Wow the Coyotes really have a solid defence now:

Ekman-Larsson - Hjalmarsson
Goligoski - Demers
Chychrun - Schenn
Conouttan - Clendening

They may not make the playoffs this year because their forwards are real young but come 2019 this is a playoff team.

19 Sep 2017 17:50:11
Demers and Goligoski played great together in Dallas, Arizonas D looks really nice.

13 Sep 2017 22:25:52
Ok guys don't get upset with me I'm trying things :

Trade 1:
EDM) Gets Gallagher, McNiven, 1st, 2d, 3d
MTL) Gets RNH, 4th

Trade 2:
FLA) Gets Galchenyuk, 2d (might need to add more... please let me know)
MTL) Gets Huberdeau, Matheson, 3d

Edm get a potential Elite Goalie cus Talbot isn't young and get a winger in Gally

Florida gets a really interesting player in Chucky

Habs lineup:

Pacioretty Danault Drouin
Huberdeau RNH Lehkonen
Hudon Plekanec Hemsky
Byron Martinsen Shaw

Alzner Webber
Matheson Petry
Sclemko/Jerabek/Morrow Benn

Price Lindgren/Montoya


14 Sep 2017 00:51:05
I think the first trade sounds like a lot to give up for habs as far as draft picks and also have heard oilers would prefer a defence in return for RNH. the panthers would never do the second trade, that huberdeau is a decent player.

14 Sep 2017 01:00:53
Florida laughs at you.

14 Sep 2017 01:18:04
Overpayment for nuge and an underpaymemt for Matheson & Huberdeau

14 Sep 2017 03:09:25
Lol you high/ trolling? No way Chucky gets Hubs and Matheson.

14 Sep 2017 03:34:11
That first trade is horrendous for the Habs. Nuge has had 6 years in the league and capped off an 18 goal season with 0 goals in 13 playoff games playing against third liners. He's not what Montreal needs.

14 Sep 2017 03:34:29
First one is too much from the habs for sure. Second one isn't near enough from the habs.

14 Sep 2017 12:23:01
Ok switch the 1st to Florida trade?

12 Sep 2017 17:17:48
Florida Trades
3rd Round Pick 2018

Toronto Trades
Rychel (AHL)

Thoughts ?

12 Sep 2017 18:02:43
Hell no from Florida p.

12 Sep 2017 18:40:20
Terrible for Florida.

12 Sep 2017 18:26:53
You're Pinball aren't ya? New account name?

12 Sep 2017 19:04:30
thats trades worse for florida then the hurrincans they just had.

14 Sep 2017 11:00:43
Florida trades one of its best 3 or 4 players and adds a pick and doesn't get back one of the leafs best 8 or 9 players? Really bad for them. Also leafs have way too many nhl wingers, and not enough good D. They downgrade in D while gaining a winger. Value wise: horrible for panthers. Needs wise: bad for both.

18 Aug 2017 18:10:01
3 Team trade:

Stl: Gets Hellebuyc
Fla: Gets Allen
Winny: Gets Matheson

18 Aug 2017 21:28:24
Hahaha. STL say no? Lmao. Who do they get?!

18 Aug 2017 21:30:20
This one might just prove you are in fact MontrealsFinests like 6th account
Drunk posting again, At least it's a Friday afternoon this time! I'll give ya that. Lol.

18 Aug 2017 23:07:31
And now Florida has Luongo, Reimer and Allen.
Perfectly thought out.

Just seen that STL gets Helly, my bad. That's a big no from STL.

17 Aug 2017 14:00:59
JVR, Carrick

Panthers are a playoff team in the making with just a couple of pieces missing. They get a scoring winger to replace jagr and a young dman

Leafs get another RH stay at home dam to help Hainsey


17 Aug 2017 15:11:41
Remove carrick.

17 Aug 2017 17:29:02
JVR alone is too much for pysk. Pysk st this point looks like a 5-6th defenceman 4 maybe at his best. Panthers should add a pick or a prospect, even still leafs could do better for jvr.

17 Aug 2017 23:39:33
They signed Hainsey to play top pair with Reilly.

18 Aug 2017 19:51:57
Don't rely on an aging Hainsey to keep up top line minutes all season.

12 Aug 2017 12:48:05
Alexei Marchenko D

3rd 2019

Golden Knights:
Ben Smith RW
Frederik Gauthier C
3rd 2019

Colin Miller D
4th 2018

James van Riemsdyk LW

Aleksi Heponiemi C
Henrik Borgstrom C

12 Aug 2017 15:51:10
who the @#$% are the players coming back to toronto in the JVR deal.

12 Aug 2017 17:51:15
Borgstrom was a 1st round pick from the panthers in 2016. Currently in the NCAA. A big (lanky) talented center.

12 Aug 2017 21:53:43
No from Devils, no from Vegas and no from Toronto, even tho I personally really like Heponeimi and Borgstrom has come along nicely since being drafted.

13 Aug 2017 06:53:54
I'd literally take future considerations to get rid of Ben smith and his useless contract.

13 Aug 2017 17:23:54
I'm sure google could tell you all about them.

08 Aug 2017 15:54:12
Tor: Bjugstad, Demers (retain 500k), 4th if jvr re signs

Fla: JVR, Kapenen, Fehr, Marincin, tor worst 2nd

Why: FLA needs a top winger to round out there top 6, fla already tried to trade demers and they save some cap in the deal, also kapenen gets to play in the nhl regularly since tor has nylander, marner, brown, hyman, marleau, komarov on the wing

Pitts: Bozak, Carrick, 3rd if maatta plays 50 games

Tor: Maatta, 5th if bozak re signs or pens make it to conference finals

Pitts is looking for a third line center and shoots right which is a plus, ufa after this year so no big financial commitment, tor now has great options on d and Bjugstad re place bozak and marleau replaces JVR

Tor will probably have a cap problem when Matthews is a RFA but it will be a lot easier to trade a dmen then a forward, gardiner and hanisey ufa in two years as well cap wise they can probably only keep 4 out of these 5 dmen in two years ( Reilly, demers, gardiner, Zaitsev, Maatta)

09 Aug 2017 11:30:22
First trade is way too much from the leafs. Bjug had a down year, he can be had for cheaper, and Demers ain't anything too speciall. Giving up JVR and Kappy for that is a lot. No thanks.

10 Aug 2017 00:52:02
How do people disagree lmao😂😂

a month ago, people were saying Bjug is garbage and worth merely anything.

05 Aug 2017 23:11:10
Boston: spooner

Florida: petrovic

06 Aug 2017 16:37:41
Boston's already got d-men like Petrovic (McQuaid and Miller) no need to send an offensive weapon like Spooner.

28 Jul 2017 20:11:07
Two Rangers Trades:

First Trade:

R. Nash and 2019 6th to the Florida Panthers in exchange for C. Sceviour and 2018 2nd.

- Nash did produce 23 goals last year and a high 30s in points, however, his value is continually dropping after a 40 goal season two seasons ago.
- He makes 7.8 million in salary, so dumping him for Sceviour saves about 7 million in cap space.

- Rangers have Buchnevich and Vesey who can fill Nash's spot, plus Sceviour who can take over third line LW.
- Florida picks up the better player with a bigger contract - however, they do have the cap space to do it.
- Because Nash's skill outweighs his 1 year expensive contract (imo), the swap ofpicks goes in the favour of New York.
- Nash can bring experience to a depleted Florida forward group, and can slot in nicely as second line LW, behind Jonathan Huberdeau.

Second Trade:

A. DeAngelo and M. Puempel and 2018 5th to the Boston Bruins in exchange for R. Spooner and M. Subban and Tim Schaller.

- Rangers need a centreman after dealing Stepan. Spooner, although recently signed by Boston, was not favoured by many there. His 'rocky' d-zone play, plus Boston's abundance of centres/ players who can play centre may have cost him a spot on the team.

- Bruins could use a skilled dman like DeAngelo, and although he was recently acquired by NYR (in the Stepan deal nonetheless), it is not much of a loss, due to NYR already having Skjei, McDonagh, Shattenkirk, Smith, Holden and Staal, as well as Bergeglazov as a 7th dman.

- Although Holden for Spooner would be ideal for NYR, the value is completely in NYR's favour, and I could never see this happening. DeAngelo (imo) is worth more than Spooner, and that is why Boston would add Schaller and Subban, while NY only adds Puempel and a 5th.

28 Jul 2017 20:35:48
Don't know much about a cpl guys in the second deal to know. What I do know is that rumours of attitude problems have followed deangelo already and that's something I would stay away from if I'm Boston. Some guys getvtraded and rumours come out that are unfounded but this isn't just once. He was suspended from the OHL by his own team and then the league for racial slurs at a teammate in his draft year. Traded straight up for a 2nd round pick after being picked in the first round by Tampa. Then plays less than 40 NHL games and has a physical abuse of an official suspension and traded again. I could be wrong about this, but I can't help but feel like this kid is going to be one the guys that wastes his talent because he's too dumb to get out of his own way. No other reason why a RHD with his talent at his age is being given up on so soon by 3 teams.

27 Jul 2017 15:35:21
Leafs trade rychel lupal and 3rd
Fla Demers and a 5th

Fla wanted rychel earlier in the offseason so now they get him lupal is only in this trade for money reason goes on injury in Florida. Florida would get out of owing demers in the last 3 years of his deal.

Leafs get demers I still think this guy be a solid fit.

27 Jul 2017 16:55:11
Not sure if the leafs do this trade for cap reasons, I appreciate demers makes similar money but they can't hide his salary on ltir like they can with lupul. They are already close to the cap and I also don't think demers is a top 4.

28 Jul 2017 17:16:07
Demers is not what there looking for or need. - has han ok year his last for the stars, got over paid the next season. Leafs don't need him or the cap hit that comes with him.

28 Jul 2017 20:05:22
Mclarty they are not close to cap during the season only the Offseason when they can't use the LTIR.

29 Jul 2017 03:56:36
they are much closer to the cap if they make this trade, you lose one of your two cap hits you can hide. Leafs also still need to sign connor brown, which they have no done because they have less than 3 mil in space, plus all the bonuses from the rookies last year which is about 5 mil counts towards the cap this year. So pretty close to it.

22 Jul 2017 19:39:57
Toronto Maple Leafs and Florida Panthers

Maple Leafs trade JVR and Soshnikov to the Panthers in exchange for Mark Pysyk and prospect Max Gildon

Toronto Maple Leafs and New York Rangers

Maple Leafs trade Tyler Bozak and Leo Komarov to the Panthers in exchange for Mika Zibanejad and prospect Sean Day

22 Jul 2017 20:31:36
I don't think fla gives up enough in the first one. And well the second 1 is really bad for the rangers.

22 Jul 2017 20:46:36
First one seems alright. IDk who Gildon is tho.

Bozak and Leo doesn't get Ziby.

23 Jul 2017 03:34:20
The Rangers might want Bozak but they will not trade a centre for him. I think the leafs will be happy with a 2nd for him.

23 Jul 2017 14:33:27
Not interested in Psyk at all he's a bottom pairing dman.

23 Jul 2017 14:38:58
VanCity if Hanzel can get a 1st Bozak obviously can.

24 Jul 2017 22:19:26
bozak is worth a first, with all the trash being traded for 1st round picks at the deadline what's wrong with another, bozak is deadly at the dot and plays a very solid 2 way game, when he was with jvr and kessel he was the only one playing any d. not the greatest player but probably will go down as one of the best free agent college signings of his generation.

22 Jul 2017 15:24:47
Tyler Bozak + Alexey Marchenko to the Winnipeg Jets in exchange for Ben Chiarot + 2018 2nd Round Pick + 2018 5th Round Pick

- Jets could use a solid third line centre behind Schief/ Little. Lowry is more suited to a grinder-fourth line center role with PK time. Nic Petan could be the solution for 3C, however, I think it would be easier for him to ease into the league as a W.
- Jets D-core already has Buf/ Myers/ Trouba/ Morissey/ Kulikov/ Enstrom. Chiarot is a 7th dman who is probably not going to see a lot of ice. He is better than Marchenko, however, giving him up in a deal for a 3C won't hurt very much.

- Leafs need to dump forwards ASAP, and don't need anymore coming back.
- A 2nd + a good bottom pairing dman is a decent haul for a guy who hit 55 points last year and has a year left on his deal.

Mark Pysyk + Dennis Malgin to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for James van Riemsdyk + Rinat Valiev + Ben Smith + 2018 4th Round Pick.

- Florida needs wingers now. They lost Marsh/ Smith/ Jagr/ Jokinen, and only gained Tippett, Dadonov (who may take time to adjust to NHL ice) and Vrbata. JVR is a big force that could play second line and play top unit PP. He had 29 goals last year and over 60 points. His value is high.

- Toronto acquires a right shot dman for their prized UFA. It may seem like only a little coming to Toronto, however, if JVR + 1st was offered for Hamonic, then JVR straight across for Pysyk seems about fair. Malgin takes over Bozaks old role, and could flourish there, or could flame out and become terrible.
- Toronto also unloads an extra contract, which could be crucial if trades are dome during the season.


Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Leo Komarov - Nazem Kadri - Connor Brown
Patrick Marleau - Dennis Malgin - Mitch Marner
Josh Leivo - Dominic Moore - Matt Martin
*Kasperi Kapanen

Morgan Rielly - Mark Pysyk
Jake Gardiner - Nikita Zaitsev
Connor Carrick/ Ben Chiarot - Ron Hainsey

Frederik Andersen
Curtis McElheinney

Key offseason additions - Patrick Marleau, Dennis Malgin, Dominic Moore, Mark Pysyk, Ben Chiarot, Ron Hainsey.

Key offseason subtractions - James van Riemsdyk, Tyler Bozak, Brian Boyle, Roman Polak, Matt Hunwick, Alexey Marchenko.

I think that the team would be better, just because the defense looks stable. Even if the offence weakens, it will still be very good. Marleau remedies JVR's loss, and Malgin/ Kappy/ Leivo will be remedy Bozak.

22 Jul 2017 21:32:00
Maybe if JFJ was still Toronto's GM. If that is all that JVR will fetch on the defenseman market (I'm 100% certain he will get more than Pysyk) then I'd much rather just keep him and wait for our defenseman prospects to be ready to play.

23 Jul 2017 14:29:00
Omg is Torontos LW ever weak without JVR. LW is definitely a bigger need then deffense.

23 Jul 2017 16:22:30
I can't believe it says Toronto needs to dump forwards in a hurry and then the centre to play with the new 6.25million dollar sniper marleau is Dennis Malgin! Lol if they need to 'dump' forwards because of the depth, why bring one back to take bozaks spot? They have Nylander who Babcock says is going to be a centre sitting on the wing and lots of cheap capable wingers like kapanen, leivo and rychel on the outside looking in. You don't force players like jvr and Bozak out because you have too many forwards and then give there spot to a new guy who is not even half as productive. Easy way to have a worse team. And pysyk a top pair D is also a joke.

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