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13 Sep 2017 04:49:51
Edmonton:
James Neal LW
Colin Miller D
2nd 2020

Vegas:
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins C


Detroit:
3rd 2020
3rd 2019
Brayden McNabb D

Vegas:
Johan Franzen C
Riley Sheahan LW
1st 2018

13 Sep 2017 10:37:50
I think the Golden Knights loose both trades, especially the second one. In my opinion McNabb is the best Player in the trade. The first is at least the compensation for taking on Franzen, so it's basically McNabb + 2x3rds for Sheahan, which in my opinion is an overpayment.

13 Sep 2017 12:11:45
Edm don't need old Neal.

13 Sep 2017 22:49:05
Vegas won't be giving up picks.

14 Sep 2017 00:58:36
Doubtful the wings would be surrendering their 2018 first round pick as well.

14 Sep 2017 05:34:02
Honestly the Oilers trade has me really intrigued but don't know if the cap will work out.

14 Sep 2017 13:20:09
When Franzen doesn't hit their cap because of LTIR why are people obsessed with DET giving up a likely top 10 pick to move him?

12 Sep 2017 04:19:21
BOS-DET:

Bos: Niklas Kronwall [4 mil (750K ret) ], Petr Mrazek (4 mil)
Det: Matt Beleskey (3.8 mil), Anton Khudobin (1.20 mil), Jeremy Lauzon (748K), 2018 conditional* 3rd round pick

*If Bruins make playoffs it's a 3rd, if they win a series it's a 2nd and if they miss the playoffs it's a 4th.

Red Wings get a solid prospect and pick and get to part ways w a veteran in Kronwall so the young guys can come through. They also gain 3 mil in space they can use to sign AA.

Bruins get rid of a cap dump in Beleske. They get another top 6 d-man in Kronwall who couldn't use a place like Boston where he has less minutes and pressure than in Detroit. They also get an improvement in goal so Rask doesn't have to carry this team like he did in the first half last year when they couldn't score and the backups were awful.

12 Sep 2017 00:02:56
MTL) Darren Helm, Johan Franzen, 1st , 2d
DET) 2 Decent prospects

I feel like it could be 1st round cus MTL makes a huge service to Detroit if no one really wants to trade with them

12 Sep 2017 04:58:55
I don't think DET is giving up high picks essentially to dump Helm since Franzen just goes on IR. Helms deal isn't great but that first is top 10.

12 Sep 2017 05:32:28
No reason to believe wings will be better than 25th this year. Can't give up their first. Have to admit that their incredible run is over and build it back up the right way, starting with a top 5 pick this year.

06 Sep 2017 15:38:48
Buffalo:
Jimmy Howard G

Detroit:
Chad Johnson G
3rd 2019

Edmonton:
Darren Helm C
Mike Green D

Detroit:
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins C
2nd 2019
3rd 2018

Arizona:
Frans Nielsen C
2nd 2018
2nd 2019

Detroit:
Christian Fischer RW
3rd 2020

Detroit signs Andreas Athanasiou and rebuild this year selling off at trade deadline...

06 Sep 2017 15:44:56
Lol. Not a chance by Edm. Take out the pics and I still say no. Especially if they sign Franson. Zero need for Green. Maybe they take a shot at Green at deadline for a pick. But don't expect Nuge back in a deal for those two. Wow.

And Arizona is fine at center now after acquiring Stepan.

Buffalo is going with Lehner.

These are bad.

05 Sep 2017 23:15:25
-Flames and Bennet and Red Wings and Athanasiou are both far apart with their teams for contract nagotiations. Both reportedly shopping KHL contracts to pressure clubs.

-Cody Franson apperently deciding between Oilers and Blackhawks.

-Jagr could be preparing to stay in the Czech and play for Klando and the Olympics.

-Pasternak and his agent keep using Drias $8.5M as a comparable and demanding more than Boston is offering (believed to be $6M per for 6 years) . This nagotiation is maybe getting ugly.

-Horvat and Canuks could be announcing a signing in the next few days.

06 Sep 2017 02:40:42
Franson would be nice addition oil, upgrade over Gryba for sure.

06 Sep 2017 03:00:36
I think Pasternak at 7.5 would be fair. Draisatl being able to either ride shotgun with mcdavid or center his own line gives him a bit of a premium. But 6 million just wouldn't cut it if I were pasta either. And Franson was a guy i hated to see leave the leafs but we got a first, a prospect and a 5th or something for him so they had to. I would be glad to bring him back on the cheap because our RD is weak. But oilers would be a good fit too.

06 Sep 2017 15:46:51
-Duchane also didn't attend first captains practice yesterday. Landeskog was a little disappointed. But it's looking like Duchane will be traded within the month here.

-Horvats deals looking to be around 5/ 6 years between around $5.5M per.

07 Sep 2017 02:40:03
Duchene was at a wedding, lots of players weren't there.

28 Aug 2017 15:00:44
Detroit is in cap hell.

A few of their bad contracts include;

- Darren Helm
- Justin Abdelkader
- Jimmy Howard
- Jonathan Ericsson
- Johan Franzen

They also have some decent players who make too much, over too much time:

- Niklas Kronwall
- Danny DeKeyser
- Mike Green
- Frans Nielsen

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The team needs to understand that they need to rebuild, and start dumping these anchor contracts. By the end of this year, a few of these should be moved; as hard as it may be. Some may need to be traded for other anchor contracts, but those at less term.

Couple of trade ideas:

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Carl Soderberg to the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for Justin Abdelkader and a 2018 2nd Round Pick and a 2019 3rd Round Pick,

Both are anchors, but I believe that Abdelkader brings more value than Soderberg. Abdelkader has been good before, but his contract is bad. They are about the same contract dollar value, but Abdelkader has three extra years. that's why the second is involved. If Abdelkader turns himself around this year (something that most likely won't happen with Soderberg), the Avs may be able to retain money and deal him to a willing team) .

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Gustav Nyquist and Jonathan Ericsson and Johan Franzen and a 2018 3rd Round Pick to the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for Erik Gudbranson and Derek Dorsett.

Gudbranson in exchange for Nyquist and Ericsson and 3rd.
Dorsett in exchange for Franzen.

Detroit unloads a ton of cap (4 for Gustav, 4 for Ericsson, 3 for Johan) and takes only 5 between Gudbranson and Dorsett. Obviously they lose Nyquist, which is big, but they unload a lot of cap. Plus, they get Gudbranson, who they may trade at the deadline for some sort of value. Nyquist is worth more than him, and that is how Ericssons contract balances the weight out.

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Frans Nielsen to the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for Tomas Plekanec and Jacob De La Rose.

Frans Nielsen is OBVIOUSLY much better than Plekanec. However, Nielsen has an ENORMOUS contract ahead. However, due to his skill set and Montreals need for a decent centre (Nielsen scored 40 last year and could bounce up to 50). Trading him now would be the best bet for Detroit, as he is not considered to be an anchor of a contract. If they were to keep him, his contract may only get worse and worse. By making this deal, Montreal takes an incredible risk, as they bank on Nielsen staying healthy and good for at least the next three-four seasons.

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Mike Green and Darren Helm to the Las Vegas Golden Knights in exchange for Luca Sbisa and a 2018 5th Round Pick.

Green is a better dman than Sbisa, however, Helm WILL become a cap dump within his current contract. Green could be traded for a 1st at the deadline (if he produces), so that will make the trade worth it for Vegas. Sbisa isn't much honestly, but he may get like a 3rd/ 4th at the deadline.

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Idk. Something needs to give for Detroit. Are one or two of these deals plausible? Cause I do know that they all won't happen. But a few ARE possible. Idk.

28 Aug 2017 21:53:36
I see the trade with montreal possible, but idk what Nielsens contract looks like. but the other 3 trades are with teams that are in somewhat the same position as Detroit in terms of rebuilding, why would they want to take on bad contracts like these?

28 Aug 2017 23:36:06
Wow no from Vancouver, we don't want useless players in Ericsson and Franzen, just stop doing Canucks trades please. Also Soderberg is as much of a cap dump as abdelkader at this point, kinda useless trade.

30 Aug 2017 16:04:21
Well, for starters Johan is going on LTIR every year so you aren't getting anything for him and he's not really a hit on cap. For a rebuilding team, you don't really want to be giving up assets to unload bad contracts, in fact its likely the opposite. Look at what Arizona has been able to do. The beauty of rebuilding is you can wait out the bad deals because you don't need to gve anyone big raises, rebuilding teams shouldn't be giving up 2nds to dump a few extra years on a deal, wait to move the deal until you have to and wear down the negative value.

27 Aug 2017 18:15:07
Mike Green + Johan Franzen + 2018 3rd Round Pick + 2019 3rd Round Pick to the Las Vegas Golden Knights in exchange for Jon Merrill.

Mike Green and the 2018 3rd Round Pick make up for Johan Franzen's contract.

The 2019 3rd Round Pick is in exchange for Jon Merrill.

- Vegas gets their number one dman, who they can dangle for picks at the deadline.
- Vegas deals one of their MANY bottom pairing dmen in exchange for a better dman.
- Vegas has the space to absorb Franzen's contract for 3 years. If they need to, LTIR can be used.

- Detroit clears a whopping 9 million in order to sign Andreas Athanasiou.
- Detroit does not lose any MAJOR future pieces, just the two thirds. Mike Green could have been turned into picks/ prospects, but it is better to clear his contract and Franzen's salary dump in order to save cap.

27 Aug 2017 19:24:17
And what favours does Vegas owe Detroit? Why would Vegas want all this crap? Vegas counters with Merrill for one of the 3rds you offered.

27 Aug 2017 20:21:02
But I've seen people saying Detroit could get like Caleb Jones for Mike Green. If Green plays well for Vegas, he could net a first at the deadline. that's a decent haul.


What else could Detroit add? IDk.

28 Aug 2017 05:24:43
I mean, I'd probably do it if I'm Vegas just cuz, ya you could flip Green for a better return then Merrill, who I don't think is anything special anyways, couple 3rds really isn't much but I guess stocks the cupboards. How many years does Franzen have left? I know he can be put on LTIR but he's the definition of dead cap space, he's useless and will likely never play again.

28 Aug 2017 07:32:12
@hgb

He has two or three left i think.

That may be the problem.

28 Aug 2017 16:47:03
Franzen going straight to IR means he isn't costing them cap space, might not even be costing them real dollars if his contract was insured. If Mike Green can grab a first at the deadline why would you use him to get rid of a contract that in all reality is not causing you any problems on a team that is not in a position to spend to add/ keep players anyway.

01 Sep 2017 15:08:59
Franzen stays. He goes on long term injured reserve so his cap doesn't go against our hit.

26 Aug 2017 14:41:48
Det: Zetterberg
Habs: ?

Habs could use Detroit cap issues as an advantage to get their 1st center since they have 8.5 mil of cap space

26 Aug 2017 15:54:09
not happening bud.

26 Aug 2017 16:26:46
Would be to much of a cost for Zetterberg. and really, he's great an all, but not the guy to make the Habs a contender. These older guys are going to want to be with a team on the doorstep of being a champion. Habs are way down the hallway few doors back lol. Unless Price pulls a Patrick Roy and pretty much wins it all himself. But as great as he is, not happening.

28 Aug 2017 22:04:37
Wings will have to trade their 1st rounder to get rid of that contract, Just the same as they did with datsyuk.

25 Aug 2017 22:25:15
Arizona:
Johan Franzen LW
Riley Sheahan LW
Jonathan Ericsson D
2nd 2019

Detroit:
Nick Cousins C
3rd 2019
4th 2020

Edmonton:
Tomas Tatar RW
3rd 2020

Detroit:
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins C
2nd 2019

25 Aug 2017 23:56:01
Hahaha why would Arizona take on 2 cap dumps and Sheahan? They're an analytics teams with a good young core comin up. I say hell naw ftom Zona.

26 Aug 2017 00:04:45
Aside from Tatar being better, he makes over $1million less a year and Detroit is in cap trouble.

26 Aug 2017 21:13:35
On what planet is Oilers giving more are u serious.

25 Aug 2017 18:10:23
DET: Larkin, Franzen (Cap Dump)
WPG: Roslovic, Stanley, Petan, 2nd Round Pick 2018

Red Wings get to rebuild with a ton of young future prospects. Jets trade away two former first round picks, a former second round pick and a future second rounder but they reunite Larkin and Connor together. Both played minor hockey together

26 Aug 2017 02:25:35
Wpg fan confirmed.

28 Aug 2017 17:53:52
too much to give up for Larkin who won't add much (if anything) to Jets top 6 and is a waste in bottom 6.

If Detroit wants to free cap space how about Connor to Detroit for Franzen. Jets get the sure thing and can use the d, Detroit can get younger, free space and bet on the dream of Larkin and Connor becoming a force together.

28 Aug 2017 22:10:27
Detroit would never do this trade, Franzen being on LTIR means his contract doesn't effect the wings cap.

17 Aug 2017 19:11:52
Detroit is in cap jail. Even after putting Franzen on LTIR, they still have under a mill with Athanasiou still to sign. Buffalo takes advantage and acquires speedy winger Nyquist and a overpaid Sheahan from Detroit. Nyquist immediately makes our top-6 stronger and allows Reinhart to fall into his natural position at center to create 3 strong scoring lines. Buffalo sends Detroit Girgensons whose a very solid two-way center but needs to find a way to start scoring again in a new system, a young offensive winger in Baptiste who should be in the NHL this year or next, and a offensive RHD with some upside in Nelson.
Detroit trades:
Nyquist, G
Sheahan, R

to Buffalo for:
Baptiste, N.
Nelson, C.
Girgensons, Z.

17 Aug 2017 20:45:16
This is an interesting deal, I don't know much about Baptiste or Nelson to truly understand their values. Detroit's prospect needs is quality Centers or Defenseman because that's our biggest long-term weakness considering our depth of winger prospects.

Detroit has no need for Girgensons who is a 2-way Center who underproduced, Detroit has that already.

Now Nyquist has a NTC I believe, not sure he would waive for Buffalo while he is available for the right price as well.
Sheahan is available but since his value is low, may not love him yet.

Does Buffalo have any young current D-men or high quality D-prospects besides Nelson they may consider moving? Is Jake McCabe available? What's the ask for him?

17 Aug 2017 20:48:10
Also would Buffalo be interested in Rochester, NY native Jimmy Howard to help with our cap problem.

I would take picks/ prospects in exchange. It gives Buffalo three goalies but they could move the underperforming one. Howard when healthy plays well and might be a good fit. Lehner has been shaky at times so having Howard might a good insurance.

17 Aug 2017 22:57:49
Datsyuk, thank you for your comments. I actually saw this on a different fan forum and had the same impression as you, but the responses were overwhelming favorable so I wanted to test this trade here. I also thought of Howard, especially since Gionta is from Rochester. Baptiste appears to be ready to make the jump to the NHL, Nelson's top end IMO is bottom 6 D-man and Girgensons had one good 3/ 4 season and was voted to an all star game. So Detroit is getting cap relief and a top 6 prospect, a bottom six forward, and bottom pairing defense-man prospect.

18 Aug 2017 17:49:18
Van Sutter. pit Daniel sprong and a third. van tanev Daniel sprong and a second roand pic maybe 2. Edm jesse puljujärv.

18 Aug 2017 23:19:05
@sbr2017

Thank you for this post and coming up with some ideas here. I do see why this may be favourable on other sides. I think value wise we are somewhat close here.

However, is there any other available prospects you would be willing to move with similar values. Detroit needs a top 6 potential C because behind Larkin it's a little up for grabs or a Defense prospect that could reach top 4 or higher potential. Just need wise they would be better fits. Nelson seems to be kind of what we already have in Ouellet/ Sproul unless they can step up, so seemingly redundant for us. Similar to what I said about Girgensons as we already have guys like Helm/ Glenndenning or even Sheahan who underproduced but plays strong 2-way game.

I see a deal being possible here, just looking for more need focused players while Baptiste is useful, just not a position that needs to be filled since we have options.

Any suggestions? Also would be willing to take picks if you can't meet the needs.

14 Aug 2017 18:25:58
Pens- 2nd
Wings - Riley Sheahan

Wings clear some cap space and the pens get their 3rd line centre what are your thoughts?

14 Aug 2017 22:04:52
Fair enough.

14 Aug 2017 22:59:34
Sheahan scored 1 goal last year and it came at the end of the season 😂. No way he gets a 2nd.

15 Aug 2017 02:26:48
Sheahan to Pittsburgh makes send and Detroit would be asking for draft picks/ prospects in return.

That being said, I am a Wings fan and Sheahan will not get a 2nd at this time. Maybe if he has a good start to the season then he might push for a late 2nd ( assuming everything works perfectly) .

Otherwise right now his value is maybe a 4th + small add
Or Conditional 4th (Becomes 3rd if re-signs or reaches a certain goal total)

So his value is low and Detroit may move him. Pittsburgh will be a good fit but he won't get a 2nd at this time. However he is still young, so he will get a 3rd, 4th or 5th at lowest.

17 Aug 2017 02:24:28
Pens 2nd is pree much a 3rd anyways, both teams would consider this imo (if pens can afford, which I think they'd be able to. )

12 Aug 2017 20:36:27
Oil: Jones

Wings: Green + 3rd

Wings are absolutely screwed for cap and I think Oilers can take advantage of it. They have the cap space to take on Greens 6mil salary for only this year and they have about 17 mil in cap space. Would be a one year rental as green is the perfect fit for Edmonton, although it comes at a price and I'm very high on Jones and I think he's going to be a good player. However with Oils LHD depth, and Detroit nearing a rebuild, I think it's a good fit for both teams.
I have red wings adding a 3rd as if Oilers are trading jones it won't be straight up for a 31 year old dman.

Obviously Detroit could get different/ maybe better offers but I would do this if I'm Edmonton and they are making a cup run. Especially having Sekera out, Green makes perfect sense for oil to get.

12 Aug 2017 23:26:41
Detroit declines here. We may be in a tough position cap wise but that doesn't mean we're going to trade our best Rental while adding to get a prospect that is showing promise but hasn't made a full guarantee.

Now don't get me wrong, I like Caleb Jones but I wouldn't add on top of Green to get him. Detroit like you said can get better offers but I also feel that Green to Edmonton is a fit if the Oilers are willing to pay the value of Green and not try to take advantage of a situation that isn't that bad yet.

Personally I want a late 1st for Green or at least 2 2nd rounders, I think if the market is high for him then he could get it. From the Oilers I would be willing to something on Caleb Jones + Conditional 3rd (Becoems 2nd if Green re-signs or Oilers make Conference finals) . Something like that or maybe just picks if you want.

Basically we are not forced to dump him but he will be traded and you will have to pay up the cost and not cheapen out because of the situation.

Otherwise, you have a good idea for Green and Edmonton but needs to be tweaked so everyone is happy.

13 Aug 2017 06:53:02
Imo, Caleb Jones straight up for Mike Green would be fair, however, idk if EDM wants Green. Maybe Green and a conditional pick with resigning conditions.

But i don't rhink EDM will be adding.

13 Aug 2017 11:46:56
Green would just be the perfect addition to oil.

30 Jul 2017 20:53:10
Habs : plekanec and juulsen

Detroit : nyquist

both side are winner

habs need a for forward who can score goals

detroit need depth in defense

31 Jul 2017 01:33:38
No only Habs win here, Plekanec is a one year cap dump making more then Nyquist which doesn't help Detroit's current cap situation.

Juulsen is a good d-man but he is no Sergachev and not likely to pass many of our other young d-men.

So ultimately Detroit says no, also Nyquist has a NTC that he would have to waive for Montreal which isn't a guarantee. Also he is one of Detroit's higher value assets and won't be sold cheaply.

His production has gone down recently but probably could be productive with a change in scenery. Essentially for Nyquist the cost is going to start at a 1st plus and the bidding war goes from there. Also Montreal has the cap space to take Nyquist at full contract without retention or cap dump Plekanec back.

So if Montreal wants him and he will waive, then it's 2018 1st +. The plus may be higher since its in the division.

So essentially Montreal wins, deal is unfair and unlikely to happen unless the following reasons above occur.

31 Jul 2017 01:58:32
Honestly would rather keep Juulsen. Someone is going to have to play D for the Habs in the next few seasons. he looks like only prospect capable of making the team in future.

31 Jul 2017 04:08:15
Montreal needs depth on centre. So who takes plekanec's spot?

31 Jul 2017 13:28:00
Montreal is doomed. No prospects, no one to play d or center. MB is an idiot.

05 Aug 2017 10:03:34
yeah I was, this site bounces around on me all the time, I love hockey, love the Habs, like pittsburgh penquins,

05 Aug 2017 10:52:52
Lol cap dump and Juuleson for Gus? I know he's been declining last couple years but still has young and more value then that.

05 Aug 2017 10:55:50
I'd take that from mtl. But would Detroit tho? Nyquist is good.

26 Jul 2017 04:54:50
With Bergevin stacking up on lhd and having a plethora of wingers, and a 8 million in cap space, I feel he has something up his sleeve.

Montreal: Brandon Davidson, Charles Hudon, 2nd round pick

Detroit: Darren Helm, Andreas Athanasiou

or

Montreal: David Schlemko, Charles Hudon, 1st round pick

Edmonton: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

26 Jul 2017 05:39:16
Please tell me this is a troll post.

That first trade is awful for Detroit. It's not going to cost Andreas Athanasiou to dump Helm's contract. Also trading both of them is counter productive because Athanasiou makes up for the loss in Helm. Not to mention the pieces you offered might/ might not get Helm alone. Detroit may find a way to move Helm's contract but Detroit is not trading Andreas Athanasiou any time soon because that would go against the much needed rebuild plan.

Second Trade: if that's all it cost to get RNH, numerous teams can outbid that in a heartbeat and probably would. Hudon has value but you hold him way too high. Also that first is likely a mid-late first so not much help, plus you don't help Edmonton's significant needs whatsoever.

Both trades highly favour Habs and won't happen.

26 Jul 2017 15:19:31
The habs have very little to trade that has value. Zero grade a prospects and no one wants their cap dumps for assets or players.

26 Jul 2017 15:42:30
Wow. Both Detroit and Edmonton laugh at you and hang up.

26 Jul 2017 17:19:04
Terrible for Wings and Oilers to no surprise.

28 Jul 2017 03:43:06
every body thinks RNH is all that and a ball of wax, they've been trying to trade him for three years, even New jerry did not want him they had to traded Taylor Hall, he is a number three centermen making 6 mil/ yrs, in 7 years never had more than 56 point, never had more than 24 goal, and we beat up on galchenyuk, him is worth a Pelk, or a danault no more, and that is why his still in edmonton.

10 Jul 2017 07:57:23
Canucks: 1st rounder
Red Wings: Tanev

10 Jul 2017 10:00:53
no way is Detroit trading their first. going to be a top 5 pick for sure. then again it's holland in charge.

10 Jul 2017 12:38:08
Vancouver says no, look at what Hamonic got. No way they'll give Tanev away for less.

10 Jul 2017 13:48:58
McRazzle, Hamonics biggest value was his contract. Him and tanev are close in age, both have 3 years left but hamonic makes 600k less which doesn't seem like a lot but it can make a difference in keeping someone else and not. Also hamonic has no clauses as where tanev has a limited NTC in the final 3 years. Flames knew that if things didn't work out or if in that final year they don't plan on re-signing hamonic they control the situation and can move him. Not the same power with tanev. Value on the ice wise you're right, but GMs have to look beyond the ice and beyond this year.

10 Jul 2017 14:12:23
this and detroit isn't a fit.

02 Jul 2017 04:53:06
Toronto: Connor Brown,Dermotte and 2018 1st

Detroit: Zetterberg and Green

Toronto: Toronto gets a big name star that is extremely underrated because of age ( he scored 1 less point then Mathews playing with worse players ).Zetterberg would be amazing with Mathews they would compliment each other perfectly if you watched the leafs you'd know Hyman needs to be moved down the lineup. Green is a good top 4 dman that could put up great numbers beside Rielly and on the 1st PP unit.

Detroit: Detroit gets a good top 6 20 goal 20 assist rookie that'd kick start there rebuild.
Dermotte is projected to be a good two way top 4 dman and the biggest asset of the trade is the 1st needed for the rebuild.

Zetterberg-Mathews-Nylander
JVR-Bozak-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Kappnen
Hyman-Moore-Soshnikov

Rielly-Green
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Hainsey-Carrick

Andersen-McElhinney

02 Jul 2017 14:28:43
Why do the leafs do this? They are still rebuilding, giving jo going assets and picks is not what should be happening, unless it's for a young valuable asset coming back, not old expensive players.

02 Jul 2017 15:06:25
With those two players they become a contender and they already have one of the deepest prospect pools in the NHL they need to trade some. Would rather not trade a 1st Rd pick tho.

02 Jul 2017 17:37:41
I think this would be really amazing for the leafs but The wings would have to keep like 25% of zetterberg's cap hit because big contracts are coming up for the leafs.

02 Jul 2017 23:52:56
If your thought is because they could be in a win now mode because the young guys need to be paid in a couple year's, it could work forsure. However, I beleive the Leafs are still in need of Rugged hard nosed style type of Dman. they have Reilly, Gardiner., now even Hainsey that can move the puck up., so that's good. but, no one really nasty to smash the opposition outta the crease in front of Anderssen.

02 Jul 2017 23:41:03
Now that the signed Marleau This dosent make sense.

03 Jul 2017 01:54:37
Ya doesn't work now with Marleau signing.

03 Jul 2017 14:57:08
Don't see the point in trading young players with upside for guys pushing 40. Better what they did with marleau, you can always buy character in the form of UFAs. A lot of guys that are willing to take 2-3 years to finish somewhere. Might be ahead of schedule but it's still early in the rebuild. Sign help, don't trade assets unless it's to get an asset that's going to be your core for the next 5 years (if you find a 22-27 year old D) .

01 Jul 2017 10:41:18
Kinda had this idea in mind for my Red Wings looking to get Younger while clearing some cap space:

Detroit Trades:
One of Frans Nielson/ Henrik Zetterberg (Assuming they want a cup and willing to move on to get one)
One of Gustav Nyquist or Tomas Tatar (Nashville's choice)
Petr Mrazek

Nashville Trades:
Kevin Fiala
Dante Fabbro
1st 2018
Conditional 2019 2nd that becomes 1st if Nashville reaches cup final once in next two years.
Cap dump

Why for Detroit: Detroit clears cap space and gets young pieces for the rebuild that needs to happen.

Why for Nashville:
Nashville loads up on Offense to prep for a Stanley cup run with their already fantastic Defense. Plus they get a young goalie to help learn from Rinne and eventually take over when he is done(similar to Reimer for Luongo). Nashville takes a lot of cap but sends back bad contracts or asks for salary retention.

Is this plausible in a potential deal? May not be equal? Who adds?

01 Jul 2017 14:30:53
Nashville doesn't need Mrazek because they have Saros.

01 Jul 2017 16:52:09
@KingsLover

Yes they have Saros but Saros wasn't fully ready especially to play Playoff hockey. Mrazek only has slightly more experience. I think because Saros isn't a sure thing, having the ability to run Rinne-Mrazek and then Mrazek-Saros in the future would be great to fill the goalie void so there is no future net concerns after the Rinne era.

27 Jun 2017 17:36:48
Calgary:
• Rasmus Andersson
Detroit
• Gustav Nyquist
• 3rd

Calgary:
• Morgan Klimchuk
St Louis:
• Nail Yakupov


Gaudreau-Monahan-Yakupov
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Nyquist
Ferland-Lazar-Brouwer

Try and find a way to get rid of Bouma & Stajan. Maybe Carolina takes Stajan, Montreal takes Bouma for a low pick

27 Jun 2017 18:20:55
i think stl would take a pick no need for bad players coming back to them.

Detroit is going to want a 1st with anderson to accept that deal.

27 Jun 2017 19:10:00
Yak is about to be a UFA. Detroit would be looking to dump Nyquists contract.

27 Jun 2017 19:11:30
Calgary should sign yakapov on July 1st. And we can watch the oiler fans cry when he gets 60 point playing with johnny and monahan.

27 Jun 2017 20:57:10
I wouldn't call Nyqvist a dump just yet. Should the lightning just let Palat go jbs?

27 Jun 2017 21:31:43
Lol if he can't get points with McDavid, what makes you think he will get points with them.

27 Jun 2017 23:33:39
Yak wasn't given a qualify offer, he'll be ufa in a couple days.

28 Jun 2017 04:34:50
Maybe Rasmussen and a conditional first (condition he has to hit a certain point and goal totals) for Nyqvist and a 3rd. Detroit really needs to move on from this guy.

28 Jun 2017 05:27:45
Detroit fans have been calling Nyquist a disappointment since his extension. He never took the next step and my have even regressed. He may have almost had as many points as Palat. But Palat is a premier defender as well and does a lot that doesn't show up on the score sheet (look at how players do with him on the ice vs without) . Nyquist not so much. I don't think Nyquist gets a first alone right now.

28 Jun 2017 06:28:15
You're right that Nyquist has regressed but I believe he is still a top 6 forward, not a dump. I think the whole Detroit team has regressed. A change of scenery would be nice for him. I was just throwing Palat's name out there, he is very good defensively but injuries are slowing him down.

28 Jun 2017 12:44:59
Not Today are you thinking someone else? Palat missed 20 games two years ago but only 7 last year. The year he missed 20 was only season he got under 50 points. Last year was a bit lower than first two but the whole team sucked i think Johnson is slowing down possibly due to injury much more than Palat.

28 Jun 2017 20:37:23
I was thinking Palat. I've had him in my fantasy pool 2 years in a row, seemed like he was always hurt.

21 Jun 2017 05:35:40
Based on the premise Trouba doesn't want to remain in Winnipeg long term ... jets deal trouba, copp and 1st Rd pick (13) to Detroit for dekeyser, Larkin and 1st Rd pick (9). Jets then flip Larkin and 1st Rd pick (#9) to Colorado for Barrie and pickard

21 Jun 2017 06:20:34
Trouba > Larkin seems fair. Considering what sergachev got. Larkin really isn't anything special.

21 Jun 2017 17:08:32
Sergachev got Drouin because Tampa were desperate to trade one of them because by they were going to lose an amazing player.

21 Jun 2017 20:33:54
Tampa wasnt desperate to trade Drouin they would have been fine. But i don't think Yzerman ever planned to keep him. He still held a grudge just waited for value to rebound before trading him.

 
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