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23 Apr 2019 22:00:46
What's everyone's opinion on the return for Trouba?

Top Prospect plus a 1st Round Pick?
Young RHD plus a pick?

Here are some suggestions:

WPG: Trouba, Dano
NYI: Dobson, 1st Round Pick 2019

WPG: Trouba
DET: 6th Overall 2019, 3rd Round Pick 2019

WPG: Trouba
NYR: Howden, 1st Round Pick 2019 (WPG)

WPG: Trouba
PHI: Patrick, Myers

23 Apr 2019 22:11:18
islanders trade is very interesting imo.
heck no from detroit.
bruh. all i'm going to say for rangers one that's beyond bad.
absolutely not from philly.

23 Apr 2019 22:48:59
How is the rangers one beyond bad? You realize it's wpgs pick going not the rangers?

23 Apr 2019 22:54:58
I think it will likely be a two or three piece trade for an extended Trouba. All dependant on the pick (s) / player (s) involved.

23 Apr 2019 23:16:25
my bad i did not realize that, with that in mind then no from jets. thanks for letting me know alpaca.

24 Apr 2019 02:52:39
At the draft it will be interesting to see what the teams will give for young, 50 point, 23 min a game first pairing, RHD in Trouba. Teams may overpay for him. I can see the Jets liking Patrick and a high draft pick instead of Myers.

31 mar 2019 16:32:18
anaheim ducks - jacob larsson & 2nd-round pick
toronto maple leafs - william nylander

anaheim ducks - corey perry, max jones & 3rd-round pick
la kings - alec martinez

anaheim ducks - ryan kesler, sam carrick & 1st-round pick
detroit red wings - 7th-round pick

rickard rakell - ryan getzlaf - william nylander
ondrej kase - adam henrique - jakob silfverberg
nick ritchie - sam steel - troy terry
daniel sprong - devin shore - carter rowney

hampus lindholm - josh manson
cam fowler - andy welinski
alec martinez - korbinian holzer

john gibson

before you judge please look at their full stats and what role they play and salary. thank you

31 Mar 2019 17:34:09
Why would red wings take on his contract aren’t they already in a bit of cap trouble?

31 Mar 2019 23:56:35
Pretty sure Martinez would be in the top 4 before welinski.

31 Mar 2019 23:57:18
Is Larsson so very good player he is worth Nylander? I don’t think so.

02 Apr 2019 07:19:33
wtf with the detroit trade? 1)salary cap. 2) i'm pretty sure carrick is worth the 7th as is, wouldn't you want to add a player from detroit for kesler+1st. at least to even out the salaries? if detroit can figure it out cap wise they'd say hell yes deal because easy first round pick, but sheesh that's brutal.

21 Feb 2019 22:29:15

Jimmy Howard (50% salary retained)
Gustav Nyquist (50% salary retained)

Mike Smith
2019 1st round pick

Calgary gets their 2nd line winger to play with Tkachuk and Backlund, and they improve their backup goaltending for the playoffs

22 Feb 2019 04:43:41

20 Feb 2019 21:32:02
Nick Jensen [RD - UFA] to Toronto in exchange for Justin Holl [RD - 650K x 2 Years] + Kasimir Kaskisuo [G - RFA] + 2019&2020 3rd Round Picks.

- Detroit gets two picks and a replacement level dman for an upcoming UFA. The supposed price that teams are tabling atm is a 3rd, and DET wants a 2nd + a roster body. Two third + a roster body + AHL Goaltending Depth [W. Bernier and Howard uncertain]

[Rielly/ Jensen - Muzzin/ Zaitsev - Gardiner/ Dermott].

21 Feb 2019 00:16:06
It seems like a lot for Jensen. I don’t even think he is worth one 3rd round pick.

19 Feb 2019 22:39:37
Detroit: Howard

Calgary: Conditional 2019 3rd (Becomes 2nd if they make conference finals, becomes first if they win the cup)

20 Feb 2019 00:41:34
Thats dumb lol what if they get him and he only plays 3 games in playoffs and they win the cup? Give a 1st up for that I don’t think so. No chance a condition like that is an option lol.

20 Feb 2019 01:07:28
Is Howard going to be the starting goalie? Because otherwise those conditional picks don’t make any sense for a guy who might not play a single playoff game.

20 Feb 2019 11:56:14
I would add a played 80% of games in the playoffs to those conditions.

11 Feb 2019 22:47:51
Gustav Nyquist

Stephen Johns
2019 2nd round pick

I believe Johns would be of interest for Detroit as a RHD and would be a good inclusion to give Dallas the necessary cap space to fit Nyuquist's contract in

12 Feb 2019 03:25:25
Johns hasn’t played all year. I would think Detroit would want a guy that is actually playing and not out long term and questionable if he’s going to recover and come back.

09 Feb 2019 23:54:09
Detroit: Glendening (30% Retained)
Toronto: 2019 2nd, 2020 5th

10 Feb 2019 01:37:33
No thanks. I don't see him as an improvement on what we have on our 4th line.

10 Feb 2019 05:43:12
He's an improvement for sure but he's still got 2 more years at 1.8 mil I think.

10 Feb 2019 13:26:39
Wouldn’t give a 2nd for him.

10 Feb 2019 16:56:01
Glendening has been rumoured to go to Toronto for a while. Toronto is deep in forwards though. I don’t see a fit for him. They are already looking at moving Brown in order to bring up guys like Moore and Bracco. I can’t see them wanting to take on extra salary when they are looking to move guys out already.

01 Feb 2019 08:27:17
Trade 1
To wpg

To Detroit
2020 5th round
2020 6th round
Suess , lipon

Trade 2

To wpg

To ottawa
2019 1st round
2019 3rd round
Petan , dano

01 Feb 2019 12:42:20
Winnipeg seems to give up too much in both suggestions.

01 Feb 2019 14:57:55
The Jets don't need Kronwall, but if they wanted him for depth, I would take everything out except the 6th.

Stone would be a no go. That is way to much to give up for a rental.

01 Feb 2019 16:14:09
It would be great for the Jets to get Stone but it has to be for a reasonable price and this offer is too much to give for a rental.

09 Feb 2019 18:19:30
A huge no from Ottawa that 1st is trash and petan Dano Not good enough to make up for that unless wpg takes smith and Gaborik too, no retention.

31 Jan 2019 20:08:50
To Dallas: Gustav Nyquist

To Detroit: 2019 2nd round pick, 2020 1st round pick, Nicholas Caamano.

31 Jan 2019 20:17:24
A lot for a rental.

31 Jan 2019 20:25:51
And what do 45-55 point rentals return.

31 Jan 2019 20:26:49
And what do 45-55 point rentals return.

31 Jan 2019 23:42:23

Dallas 1st>> Leafs package.

31 Jan 2019 04:07:38
To Wpg

Darren Helm

To Detroit

4th Round pick

31 Jan 2019 15:03:32
Nope. The Jets can't waste cap space on a player they don't need.

31 Jan 2019 17:30:39
I agree with Memarcusjoe that this trade doesn’t help the Jets.

31 Jan 2019 22:50:14
Helm wouldn't be a need for the Jets, and Detroit will likely receive a better offer for him from elsewhere if he's on the block.

30 Jan 2019 23:57:10
Detroit: Athanasiou, Nyquist

Carolina: Fleury, Bean, 2nd round pick 2019

29 Jan 2019 15:59:48
Detroit Trades

Toronto Trades
Liljegren (AHL)

With the Trade for Muzzin yesterday the Leafs need to get one more Winger for the Top 9, Nyquist can play all 3 forward positions and with his talent he will fit right in with the Leafs and Babcock knows him well from his Coaching days for Detroit.

Getting Liljegren makes sense for Detroit with Nyquists expiring contract and looking to the future adding Liljegren is a positive move for the Red Wings.

Thoughts ?

29 Jan 2019 16:14:13
I would like this as a Wings fan. I don't know if TOR values Liljegren higher than this for a rental though.

29 Jan 2019 16:35:49
After what they only gave for Muzzin, I'm sure a 5th ot 6th could get Nyquist.

29 Jan 2019 17:45:15
Please no. The only pending FA I would want the Leafs to get is Simmonds, and that is depending on price. And please don't give up Sandin or Liljgren.

29 Jan 2019 21:06:43
Detroit won't give Nyquist away for a later Draft Pick and they are asking for a 1st Round Pick for him, yes Trading Liljegren is a lot when you think Nyquist could be in Toronto for only this Season and Playoffs but does Nyquist make the Leafs better? That's an easy answer of yes so when the Team is this close before Matthews and Marner cash in why not go for it, after 52yrs of waiting for a legitimate chance to win I think it's a no brainer to make this Deal.

29 Jan 2019 21:13:33
Do you really think it makes them better. I've seen way to many of these UFA deadline trades to a top contender that don't really pan out.
Liligren would be alot, possibly a 10 + year solid player for Leafs, for a decent winger for 6 weeks to max what, 3 months .
Sometimes by the time the player gets accustomed to new team, the series is over and was a waste of a prospect .

29 Jan 2019 22:55:54
Funny how if I posted this a few months ago Liljegren wouldn't be enough for Nyquist now it's to much, ok let me change it up some to see the reaction to what I will propose.

Detroit Trades

Toronto Trades
Borgman (AHL)
4th Round Pick 2019
2nd Round Pick 2020


29 Jan 2019 23:36:52
Funny, I don't remember it. but to make it simple. ya don't need him. Last time I'll say that.

28 Jan 2019 00:27:05
Edmonton Acquires:
Darren Helm [3.80 Million x 3 Years]

Detroit Acquires:
Andrej Sekera [5.50 Million x 3 Years]
Tobias Rieder [2.00 Million x 1 Year]
2020 3rd Round Draft Pick

Contracts are identical lengths, however, Sekera has more term, hence, the draft pick and Rieder are added in. It's possible that Sekera never plays again, so he could be on LTIR, which saves Detroit money, but unlike Horton/ Bolland, it isn't definitive as yet. Rieder could have money retained and be shipped off to a contender for a mid round pick, and as for Edmonton, Helm brings speed to the forward core despite a pricy contract.

28 Jan 2019 12:00:50
I thought Sekera was nearing a return as is? He was a full practice participant in December. Talk was Spooner was waived because if he was claimed it freed up the cap to activate him, and last I saw was end of December looking at a possible early February return. Isn’t Detroit in a worse cap situation than Edmonton right now? I thought I looked at CapFriendly and they had the least space in the league.

28 Jan 2019 18:20:56
Detroit is trying to lose cap space, as jbs said, they're up to the cap.

27 Jan 2019 21:58:07
Detroit Trades

Leafs Trade
Timashov (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2019


27 Jan 2019 22:26:00
Do Leafs even need a guy like Nyquist? I don't think so. Think Grit. D man and a bottom 6 winger.

27 Jan 2019 22:54:45
Leafs are built on being a skilled Team, yes most Teams have that bottom 6 grit but don't see the Leafs going that direction, Nyquist and Jensen make the Leafs better don't you think #sosahabs24.

27 Jan 2019 23:35:53
I'm not sure. I don't know enough about Jensen. And, yes the Leafs are a skill team, however, I still feel for a long playoff run, ya need the gritty guys to set the tone of a game sometimes. the Leafs are good, but I think they need a little more balance towards grit. no one will question the skill on the team, especially once Nylander catches fire.

28 Jan 2019 00:20:43
Jensen is needed imo. His underlying numbers are nice and he'd compliment Morgan Rielly better than Ron Hainsey imo - gets Hainsey less minutes to help him when he's on the PK. I'd be willing to part with Holl/ Marincin and a 2nd and a lower pick/ prospect for Jensen alone imo.

Nyquist though, as Sosa said, isn't needed, our wings are pretty stacked, and even if we needed a winger, it would be for the left side - our right side is Marner/ Nylander/ Kapanen/ Brown, no need for Nyquist to bump down Kapanen or take Brown's spot who has been just fine. A LW for the stretch run though could be nice, but I wouldn't be willing to pay the premium of a 1st for that.

28 Jan 2019 18:43:32
Jensen and Glendening (since Babs loves him), for Johnssen and a 2nd.

27 Jan 2019 19:49:18
Detroit Trades: Gus Nyquist

Edmonton Trades: 2019 1st Rounder

27 Jan 2019 20:29:19
No way man.

27 Jan 2019 20:54:11
Nyquist isn't worth a first that's more than likely going to be a top 10 pick.

28 Jan 2019 18:42:05
If Chiarelli were still around, maybe this gets done.

19 Jan 2019 22:30:46
Josh Manson
Max Jones

Andreas Johnsson
Nikita Zaitsev
Jesper Lindgren
Jeremy Bracco
2019 1st Round Pick

TOR gets a big, right-handed defenseman in Manson who excels on the defensive side of the game and can allow Rielly to be a lot more involved with the offense and a young, big power forward in Jones who can get under the opponent's skin and play a role similar to Hyman's in that he can get into the tough battles and grind for the puck in the corners and get it to Matthews. This would also mean that both Matthews and Tavares have this sort of grindy player on their wings instead of entirely skill (which as recently evident has not seemed to be entirely effective for the Leafs.)

ANA gets a young, offensively-talented player in Johnsson when they are in desperate need of goals from somewhere, a fill-in replacement for Manson in Zaitsev, a good defensive prospect in Lindgren (an area in which they do not have a great selection to choose from at the moment), an extremely talented playmaking winger in Bracco and a 1st round pick for this year if they miss out on the playoffs and want to stockpile more prospects.


19 Jan 2019 23:16:47
Anaheim gives up two young roster players for Zaitsev an overpaid player who was a signing mistake and 3 players that will have problems cracking the Ducks lineup. Two get those two players off the Ducks the Leafs would have to add a good roster player and much better players from the minors.

20 Jan 2019 00:00:25
Johnsson > Jones, not by much though.

Rest of the package doesn't get Manson.

If it's Manson we're going after, imo, its going to take Kapanen + Bracco + 1st or something based around Nylander without the inclusion of Jones.

And islandjet, quit the hyperbole. The Ducks just lost 12 straight, Johnsson doesn't have 'problems cracking the Ducks lineup'.

20 Jan 2019 01:46:29
I’d love Manson but I actually agree with islandjet this time. Kapanen or Nylander would have to be in there and I’m not sure what Anaheim’s cap looks like.

20 Jan 2019 08:29:03
How is it Johnsson > Jones?
Jones is a 20 year old first round pick enough said.

20 Jan 2019 14:03:28
Johnssons what, three years older and has 21 points in like 40 games in his rookie season. I even said ‘not by much’. Johnsson’s done something at the NHL level atm, and Jones still has to prove himself there. I get where your coming from with the potential side, but Jones’ junior numbers aren’t all that eye catching that show that he’ll develop into better than what Johnsson’s producing right now.

And I even said, if we want Manson, you take Johnsson and Jones out and add like Kapanen/ Nylander to the package.

20 Jan 2019 14:38:24
TSS you have to realize how ridiculous that sounds, Jones is considered one of the ducks top prospects, Johnsson is at most a 3rd line guy. Just because he’s in the NHL because he had 3 extra development years to get there doesn’t make him better or more valuable. We don’t live in a world where every player in the NHL is better/ more valuable than every player outside it. Having success helps Johnssons value because he wasn’t a very valuable piece before but I still don’t think he’s as valuable as a 20 year old first round pick who at this point seems to have met his expectations in development.

20 Jan 2019 16:38:31
Jones is pretty close to 21 and really hasn't shown much to this point I agree the trade isn't great but it's mostly ruined by the inclusion of zaitsev.

20 Jan 2019 17:29:23
Puljujarvi is a 20 year old 1st round pick and he’s still complete trash at the nhl level. Lucic litterly out produces him. Draft position means nothing.

20 Jan 2019 18:03:27
I mean, if we're going by draft position, we can look at a guy like Lawson Crouse who was drafted only a year before Max Jones, plays a similar style, and has busted out pretty hard in Arizona, even if they give him playing time.

Jones is a good prospect, don't get me wrong. But really, if we're talking a matter of appx. two years of age, one guys in the NHL playing 2nd Line minutes [Johnsson >>>> guys like Connor Brown who are 3rd liners] and one guy still has to prove his worth, I'd be taking the proven guy. Only time that isn't the case is if the prospect really is top-notch, but really, Jones is basically #50 in the NHL, and his style of player just isn't as popular in todays NHL.

Plus, Jones' AHL production and OHL production really doesn't tout him as much better than Johnsson. His +1 year was 36 in 33 and his +2 year was 24 in 29 - hampered by injuries a lot too. His inaugral AHL season wasn't terrible, 24 in 32 is pretty good, but Johnsson's rookie year was 47 in 75, the next year, PPG [54 in 54]. You can't call one to be a 'top prospect' and the other to be 'a 3rd line guy', when their statistics in the same league at the same age were basically identically. And draft position isn't anything to be crowned over, just because Johnsson's a seventh round pick doesn't mean I'd take Frederik Gauthier over him [both were 2013 picks]. I put Johnsson in the same talent range as Kasperi Kapanen, and tbh, I'd value both higher than Max Jones atm - unless Jones proves at the NHL level he's better, i'm sticking with that.

20 Jan 2019 18:31:06
Vbb, you're completely wrong and why you hate every player on Edmonton? Draft position means alot, that's why players drafted higher are more likely to make nhl then guys drafted 150th, can find late bloomers late but the chance of a guy being drafted 6th, very slim chance they'll ever play a game in nhl.

20 Jan 2019 20:41:14
TSS, you’re right in saying we don’t know who’s better until Jones is a NHL regular. But unless the ducks have given up on Jones and I doubt they have because he’s 20, they wouldn’t trade him straight across for Johnsson. His potential is higher.

VB would you be saying that is Puljujarvi was a point per game in the AHL? The Oil management is garbage not Puljujuarvi. I get more and more confindence in him being a good player as the season goes on.

20 Jan 2019 20:55:55
Atta boy vb.

20 Jan 2019 20:57:08
He was itching to bring in Puljujarvi oh yes he was.

20 Jan 2019 23:01:41
Jones = 2× Johnson lol.

17 Jan 2019 02:22:41
Det: Nick Jensen, Thomas Vanek (if he waives no trade)

Tor: Nikita Ziatsev, Connor Brown, 2019 2nd, conditional 3rd (if Jensen resigns it's a third, if he doesn't it's a 5th)

17 Jan 2019 03:29:08

11 Jan 2019 08:30:06
to San Jose

to Columbus


to Columbus

to Detroit
San Jose's 2nd.

11 Jan 2019 11:45:33
Oh, so your saying Howard basically = Bob. No way man.

11 Jan 2019 15:12:52
this is really bad.

10 Jan 2019 15:21:35
Oil: Benning

Wings: Frk

Oilers have too many defenseman, detroit could have better use with the younger rhd as I believe he has fallen out of favour in Edmonton. Oilers get struggling winger who could fit well with that laser of a shot. Both teams add something they need imo and oilers shed some cap.

10 Jan 2019 20:49:59
wish i knew more about frk, but he does have only 1 goal in 23 games so i'm sure he'd fit in with the oilers haha but in all honestly sure why not low key can potentially help out each team with their weaknesses.

10 Jan 2019 21:55:00
Detroit would probably be looking to acquire picks.

11 Jan 2019 03:48:08
Lmao ya he would fit in with 1 goal.

11 Jan 2019 04:17:09
Do either team really get what they need? If Oiler’s want cap relief, I think they would be better off trading one of their aging high priced defensemen like Russell rather than a depth low cost guy like Benning. And does Detroit really want Benning coming in return? Not much to get excited about and a $2M cap hit for a rebuilding team that is tight to the cap. I’m not sure that’s a formula for success.

I guess if you believe in the old saying that the team that gets the best player wins the trade then Detroit is the winner here.

06 Jan 2019 18:37:33
Thomas Vanek

2020 3rd round pick

07 Jan 2019 00:05:33
Vanek got Motte and Jussi Jokinen for Vanek last years deadline and he was having a good season. Good luck getting a 4th.

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