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20 Sep 2017 02:45:35
Nathan Horton to AVS for future considerations

AVS rebuilding

Gives Leafs cap to sign young stars in offseason.

20 Sep 2017 04:32:47
Lol and Avs do this why?

20 Sep 2017 05:33:35
Lmao wtf did I actually just read.

20 Sep 2017 14:11:49
No incentive for avs to do this #1. And secondly most NHL contracts are insured for around 80% if the player has a career ending injury. Nathan Hortons was less than 20% insured because of his injury history, and he is owed 14.1 mill actual cash over the next 3 years. which means the team is paying him 11.5 mill out of there own pocket to have him not play. Not many owners are okay with doing this, the leafs are. Don't think the avs are, Unless you're giving them a top prospect to go with it. Dave bollands Contract was insured at 80% and it still cost the panthers Lawson Crouse to ditch it.

20 Sep 2017 14:50:44
Need to throw in like Kappy buddy. No ones taking Horton for free.

20 Sep 2017 15:56:08
Lol🙈🙈🙈.

20 Sep 2017 16:06:32
Leafs don't need to get rid of the contract, they are the wealthiest organization and the option to use this for LTIR is a nice loophole.

20 Sep 2017 23:46:04
This does nothing for Leafs. He doesn't count against cap and they can easily afford him.

04 Sep 2017 01:41:55
Canucks: Erickson
Dallas: 3rd

Basically just a cap dump for Vancouver and Dallas gets a 3rd line forward to help them with a cup run.

04 Sep 2017 06:24:00
Andddd why would Dallas want $6M for many more years to come? And for, as you say, a third liner. This is so stupid.

04 Sep 2017 07:01:20
Deal from Van, no take backs. Jim Nill doesn't seem that stupid.

05 Sep 2017 10:24:09
Retain 3 mil.

07 Sep 2017 01:18:47
Maybe a 4th round instead.

10 Jul 2017 09:38:14
PIT: Faksa
DAL: Hornqvist

New 3C for PIT. Needed Winger for DAL. got to balance it out with picks or other players.

10 Jul 2017 20:37:30
Unlikely since Faksa got extended an hour ago, but original though wasnt bad.

10 Jul 2017 21:01:13
No from Dallas IMO. Cheaper, younger, potentially similar production and I think Faksa played some wing last year.

12 Jul 2017 01:24:43
And DAL, having just lost Eakin (and now Faksa from this proposal), what do they think about this?

03 Jul 2017 23:50:35
Toronto: JVR and Lupul

Dallas: Honka and Lethonen

Toronto: Gets a young NHL ready RHD dman who can Log top 4 minutes.

Dallas: I actually thought of this originally from Dallas's perspective. They will be contending for the cup next season so they will be looking to put together the best team in the NHL. IMO this move puts them as the Favourites for the cup. They also gain cap with Lupul on LTIR.

Dallas: 1st Rd 2018 and Nukes NHL rights

Las Vagas: James Neal

Both teams-self explanatory

Benn-Seguin-Radulov
JVR-Spezza-Neal
Roussel-Hanzel-Jamnark
Ritchie-Faska-Pitlick

Methot-Klingburg
Hamuis-Lindel ( watch for the breakout season on this kid )
Nemeth-Jones

Bishop-Plug

Cup champions 2018?

04 Jul 2017 00:18:04
Easy no from Dallas on the 1st one. Stars are already loaded up upfront and JVR unextended isn't worth Honka.

04 Jul 2017 01:30:02
Charles imo a loaded offense is an offense that is clearly better then any team in the NHL and imo with JVR they do have a loaded offense but without JVR they don't what if leafs add Connor Brown and a 1st.

04 Jul 2017 02:22:06
Umm they are getting rid of lehtonen's contract so they will have 6.1mill more of cap.

04 Jul 2017 03:01:59
Yeah Honka would be a lot more important to the team. Any of that fourth line can fill JVR's spot. But wow that forward group is deep. Maybe a tad weak on D but add Honka and it looks pretty good. Don't see why they can't be contenders.

30 Jun 2017 19:49:21
Ottawa Acquires:
-Mark Methot

Dallas Acquires:
-Dion Phaneuf
-2nd round pick 2019

The Senators are actively looking to regain Mark Methot. The stars paid a 2nd to get him so would obviously like a 2nd back and Dion Phaneuf can "replace" Methot on their roster.

30 Jun 2017 20:01:00
Dallas won't do it.

01 Jul 2017 04:53:27
Dallas is adding 2 extra years and over 2 million per season on a Dman on the wrong side of 30. They're happy with the price they paid for methot i'm sure and makes them a lot better team for those cpl years while benn and seguin are on their current deals.

01 Jul 2017 05:33:20
If I'm Dallas then Methot is more important then Phaneuf. So no from Stars.

27 Jun 2017 13:22:09
DAL: Methot
VGK: 2nd, 7th and Dylan Ferguson

if somebody posted this on here they would of got laughed @, Jim Nill is getting the last laugh now! #VictoryGreen.

27 Jun 2017 13:46:24
That's the thing about armchair gm's, you never know what deal could be made.

27 Jun 2017 15:43:12
Yeah what the heck was Vegas thinking. Why even take methot if that's all he's worth? Great pick up for dallas it was a steal.

27 Jun 2017 16:11:54
I hope Vegas just lost their leverage when hamonic got traded and the UFA talking period opened and they panicked. Because if that was all they were getting and Ottawa didn't step up to that price to keep karlsson/ methot together after phaneuf wouldn't waive, then fans only have GM Dorion to blame.

27 Jun 2017 16:34:36
They were asking for a first from us Unbiased Jim.

27 Jun 2017 17:33:55
Vegas had leverage on Ottawa, which is why they were asking for a first for Methot. In reality he's a solid, but slow defensive dman who provides little to no offensive benefit.

He should do well playing with Klingberg, as he did with Karlsson. But I would never expect him to be the go-to guy in a top 4 pairing.

28 Jun 2017 04:17:28
I would think a first, especially this year when it was such a late one, would be worth keeping that pair together. But I obviously don't watch as many Sens games as you guys. I just thought they were a real good pair that the coach leaned on so much. Don't see a 28th pick being able to have that kind of impact while this core is still good.

26 Jun 2017 15:49:31
So dallas is currently paying around 15 mil for three goalies. They will obviously move one out. Leafs need a backup goalie and could take Lehtonen off their hands if they sweeten the pot for taking that 5.9 mil cap hit!

Leafs - 4th round pick

Dallas - Lehtonen, Oleksiak

26 Jun 2017 15:56:17
Id rather get a pick back than a player with bottom 3 potential, I've lived oleksiak since he was drafted but he just hasn't become the player he couldhave, rather the leafs find a player with a pick. but i think this type of trade would work.

26 Jun 2017 16:23:40
I think Toronto would do it if Dallas keeps like 1-1.5 mill of the cap.

26 Jun 2017 17:28:05
I'm not sure why Toronto would want Oleksiak you may as well take him out of the deal. 4th>>>>>Lethonen.

26 Jun 2017 19:52:11
Dallas just put Niemi on waivers for buyout purposes. Looks like they'll still try to trade Lehtonen but they're one step closer.

23 Jun 2017 02:42:33
Chris tanev and 33rd overall to dallas for 3rd overall and Julius honka

23 Jun 2017 04:55:52
Overpayment for tanev.

23 Jun 2017 05:23:24
Big no from Dallas.

23 Jun 2017 05:42:52
Lol easy easy no for dallas.

22 Jun 2017 18:16:19
NYI: Barzal, Dal Colle and Pulock/De Hann

Colorado: Duchene

Is this to much for Duchene? I'm a huge Barzal Fan, Dal Colle Is a huge wild card and Pulock will be atleast a good top 4 dman or De Hann is okay a good 4th dman definitely less valuable then Pulock.

22 Jun 2017 18:29:26
Seen this on a rumors page. I think its pretty close, maybe too much from Isles, but idk.

22 Jun 2017 18:45:53
Dal Cole hasn't done much, neither has pulock unfortuneately, but barzal has a nice future hopefully. I think Colorado does it for pulock included over de hann.

22 Jun 2017 16:20:48
VGK: Methot, 15th Overall Pick 2017
DAL: 3rd Overall Pick 2017

Then

VGK: 3rd Overall Pick 2017, Van Riemsdyk
NJ: 1st Overall Pick 2017

Vegas would have 1st, 6th and 13th Overall Picks and can draft Nolan Patrick.

Dallas gets a top 4 Left Defenceman for their win now mode. Also retaining a first round pick and just moving back spots.

New Jersey gets Van Reimsdyk, a Defenceman that they can use this season. Also they can draft Heiskanen or Makar 3rd Overall

22 Jun 2017 16:52:27
Or Jersey can also move down, acquire another asset and draft Liljegran. Regardless I like the trade.

22 Jun 2017 17:28:19
Devils definitely don't need Tvr and he also just got traded to Carolina.

22 Jun 2017 18:04:12
Wow that'd be the end of Ray Sheros career.

21 Jun 2017 20:14:00
I don't post trades very often so I thought it would be fun to come up with a scenario I find interesting and unlikely. ( I came up with this before Tuch was traded to Vegas) .

MTL: Galchenyuk, Pick #25, #50, #52

LV: Dumba, Pick #6


Followed up by.

MTL: Dumba, Pick #6

DAL: Pick #3

Montreal drafts Miro Heiskanen.

I know these trades aren't great or possible but hey I thought the idea was worth sharing.

21 Jun 2017 22:43:21
Big overpayment & underpayment. No from minny on both

21 Jun 2017 22:50:30
LV is taking Haula from Minny.

21 Jun 2017 23:21:22
Horrible so basically we trade Galchenyuk, 1st, 2nd, 3rd for #3 pick 😂😂😂😂.

22 Jun 2017 14:19:26
This is so bad all around. Made my head hurt a little. Lol.

22 Jun 2017 16:59:29
So Chucky, a 1st and two 2nds for 3rd overall? I'd be disappointed with thay.

22 Jun 2017 20:47:48
So you gave up Chucky, #25,50,and 52 for Heiskanen. Seems like a lot for the 3rd pick. Might ask for something else from Dallas.

16 Jun 2017 02:49:49
Maple Leafs and Stars Trade Proposal

Maple Leafs trade JVR and Gardiner to the Stars for the 3rd overall pick in 2017, Faksa and Oleksiak

16 Jun 2017 05:10:22
I don't think both team would do this trade because Toronto don't need small peices and they don't need the 3rd overall and they wouldn't want to trade gardener with a good contract at his peak and also dalls don't want to trade a first for them 2.

16 Jun 2017 05:54:44
Would not sorry.

15 Jun 2017 14:37:41
OTT: Phaneuf (25% retained), 28th Overall Pick 2017
DAL: 3rd Overall Pick

Then

OTT: 3rd Overall Pick 2017, 3rd around Pick 2017
COL: Duschene

15 Jun 2017 15:01:04
OTT and DAL are my favourite team's, this is bad for DAL, that 3rd overall pick can get a Fowler calibre of D imo, even if DAL had to add.

16 Jun 2017 23:04:54
Dion wouldn't wave his NTC so doubtful he'll lift it to goto Colorado. I guess he must like it in Ottawa.

2017 draft picks for Duchy.

15 Jun 2017 04:21:56
Calgary Flames
• Brandon Hickey
• 2nd round pick

Dallas Stars
• Valeri Nichushkin.

15 Jun 2017 10:33:18
Yes from both.

15 Jun 2017 12:50:49
If Calgary can talk to Nichushkin and get a confirmation of contract then I'd say yes.

15 Jun 2017 00:06:07
There was a trade posted by dallasss on here that i really liked. Just wanted to expand on it from a sens fans P.O.V.

original trade by dallasss:

OTT: Methot
DAL: Nemeth, '17 2nd (39th)

Then...

OTT: '17 1st (28th), '17 2nd (42nd), Boroweicki (or Wideman if not enough)

*CGY's 2nd from the Lazar deal

TBL: '17 1st (15th)

Ottawa drafts:

15 ovr: Kailer Yamomoto
39 ovr: Oettinger or Best goalie available

I love marc methot but we need to make room for our up and coming D and Claessen plays well with Karl at a much cheaper price.

Claessen - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Ceci
Chabot - Wideman/Boro

And as dallasss said. Methot would be perfect along side of Klingberg

15 Jun 2017 02:15:52
Basically a 2nd to move up 13 spots? Ion think Tampa will do that.

15 Jun 2017 06:25:54
You're losing Borowiecki (or Wideman), trading Methot and then probably losing Claesson in the expansion draft. Let that sink in.

. / Karlsson
Phaneuf/ Ceci
Chabot/ Wideman
Nemeth/ Jokipakka

That is some bad depth AND you're missing a top 2, which is huuuge!?

Value wise mehhh, it's not completely off I guess but the big picture plan is brutal in my opinion.

14 Jun 2017 19:32:34
To Dal: Jonas Brodin

To Min: 2017 1st round pick (29th overall) and Jamie Oleksiak

Brodin Klingberg

14 Jun 2017 23:08:09
Brodin to Dallas seems like a good fit. Not sure if Minnesota will be interested enough in those pieces.

However, if Minnesota loses Brodin to Vegas. I could see Vegas trading up from 6th overall + Brodin to Dallas for 3rd overall plus something small.

I agree Brodin to Dallas is plausible, I'm not sure on how that will happen and the value in exchange.

Also I read somewhere that Minnesota may be higher on keeping Brodin over Dumba. Not sure what will come out of this.

15 Jun 2017 01:43:20
Absolutely not for Minnesota. They need to win NOW. Don't need future pieces.

13 Jun 2017 23:36:22
With Phaneuf not waiving his NTC and the Senators protecting Karlsson and Ceci that means Methot is the odd man out

To Dal: Mark Methot

To Ott: 2017 2nd (39th overall) and Patrik Nemeth

Methot Klingberg

14 Jun 2017 01:32:45
I think Ottawa will maker a trade with LV to not take Methot.

14 Jun 2017 13:31:28
I honestly wouldn't be upset with Methot being taken. If you look at possession numbers he drags Karlsson down. I'd prefer Claesson or Chabot play with Karlsson.

14 Jun 2017 19:54:12
Method is a shutdown defenceman that play's with grit. I'd be mad if we traded or gave him up in expansion.

14 Jun 2017 21:18:46
With the way Methot played, they won't lose him in the expansion draft nor trade him for scraps. They'll work a deal with Vegas incase they need to expose him so they won't take him.

13 Jun 2017 18:45:20
Before the hopeful madness of the pre-expansion trades start, I just want to reel off my ideal Toronto Maple Leafs offseason

Trade #1 -

To TOR: Josh Manson, Clayton Stoner ($3.25 mill cap dump) and Max Jones

To ANA: JVR (50% retained), Nikita Soshnikov, Tobias Lindberg

Trade #2 -

To TOR - Niemi ($4.5 mill), 39th overall

To DAL - Rinat Valiev

Trade #3 - IF Liljegren falls to #11 (If not I hope Foote falls to #17 but I doubt it)

To TOR: #11 overall

To LA: #17 and Jeremy Bracco (I would only ever trade Bracco to a Western Conference team)

Leafs draft Liljegren at #11, Oettinger at #39 (or best available G), and Mattheos at #50

Signings:

Brian Boyle for 3 years at $2.3
Darren Raddysh to a ELC

There are my hopes for the Leafs so I imagine I will be roasted for them but I do not think I have said anything too outrageous

13 Jun 2017 19:36:33
Signing Raddysh would be a great pick up for leafs.

13 Jun 2017 21:31:45
Some of it makes sense. Rinat Valiev, as much as I think he has a chance of being an NHL player down the road, currently holds next to no value. At the moment he's an average to slightly above average AHL Dman. Nothing makes him worth more than 3-4 players in the same situation in every teams organization. Those type of guys only have value to their own organization because they have nothing really invested and any progress is a bonus.

13 Jun 2017 22:42:15
I think these are really good and fair trades 👍👍.

14 Jun 2017 03:08:44
Anaheim has a deal in place for Vegas to not select Manson.

09 Jun 2017 21:32:50
To Dallas: Chris Tanev and Brandon Sutter (50% retained)

To Vancouver: 2017 3rd overall pick and Antti Niemi


Dallas signs/resigns:
Brendan Smith 5 years/4.75 per
Alexander Radulov 7 years/7 per
Nichushkin 2 years/1.5 per

Lose Jamie Oleksiak or Stephen Johns in expansion

Trade Eakin for a 2nd

Benn Seguin Nichushkin
Janmark Spezza Radulov
Roussel Faksa Ritchie
Dickinson Sutter Shore

Mckenzie, Cracknell

Smith Klingberg
Hamhuis Honka
Lindell Tanev

Oleksiak

Bishop
Lehtonen

10 Jun 2017 15:47:34
Good luck landing Radulov, he looks pretty set to re sign in MTL.

08 Jun 2017 18:18:51
TOR: JVR, Carrick, 2nd
NYI: Barzal, Dal Colle, Pulock, Kulemin, Grabovski

This will give the Leafs a solid C prospect, under performing LW prospect, a potential top 4 Dman and absorb nearly 10M in Salary for the Isles.

Isles get a stud LW, serviceable Dman, and a pick. This also frees up enough cap space for them to trade for Eberle.

08 Jun 2017 18:32:00
Yeah you trade some cap away with grab and kule but you lose 3 top prospects and mainly your replacement dman for Hamonic if that's who you trade for eberle. I think you get one of eberle or jvr and there's the benefits of both.

08 Jun 2017 23:22:45
Dont think NYI would do this.
Too much of their youthful future leaving.

 
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