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24 Apr 2018 23:35:11
This move happens after the draft but before July 1st.

Dallas: Spezza and heiskanen

Vancouver: Baertschi

Then on July 1st Dallas signs John Carlson with the cap freed up from spezzas deal and they get a a good winger back then can help have more offence on up and down the line while Vancouver gets a good prospect while taking back a bad contract.

25 Apr 2018 01:34:16
Oh god lmao.

25 Apr 2018 01:48:34
Overpayment from Vancouver. Heiskanen is clearly a C-prospect, he was only taken 3rd overall last year as a joke obviously. Baertschi has had an astonishing career so far (18 goals is his career high), and clearly can fetch a better return than a rubbish prospect like Heiskanen. I have a little proposal of my own:
VAN: Juolevi, Eriksson
DAL: Faksa.

25 Apr 2018 02:24:32
This is up there with the worst I’ve read. Stars are hoping this kids a superstar. They’re not trading him to get a 3rd line winger haha.

25 Apr 2018 04:45:37
Oh my is that hilarious. Spezza's a cap dump and grossly overpaid, but it's only for one more year. Heiskanen? C'mon.

25 Apr 2018 06:28:01
Yours double daily crazy overvalue of Canuks players. Can always count on Brock and AO99 for a good laugh.
Delusional.

25 Apr 2018 07:21:34
If Baertschi played a full 82 game seaso, he would of been on pace for over 20 goals and almost 50 points on the Canucks. If he went to Dallas he’d be a top 6 player for sure and he could definitely increase his totals which would be great. Yes losing heiskanen would be a huge loss but getting rid of spezzas contract helps Dallas create cap room for them to, add an already established top pairing defensemen which would cost them no assets to get. Also Dallas is in win now mode before they got to pay Seguin big money and maybe even honka get a big raise. I’m not sure if Dallas would want to wait 3-5 years for Heiskanen to properly develop into a stud while their core s in their prime right now.

25 Apr 2018 09:31:02
Brock. please stop making us look bad.

-Canucks fans

Yes adding Hesikanen would be unreal but he will be a great partner for Klingberg in a few years imo and he should jump into the NHL next year.

25 Apr 2018 14:48:35
Canucks sucked. That’s like when the leafs sucked and mason Raymond scored 19 or 20 goals. Guys get put in situations way above their skill set and cash in because there’s no one else. That doesn’t mean that Raymond could go to a better team and be a top line player lol he is what he is. And crap teams sign these guys, give them prime ice time and hope they have a great year so they can flip them for a 2nd or 3rd rounder at the deadline to a contender looking for depth, not to good teams looking for top players and not for top prospects! Baertschi is a middle six utility player that has a bit of offence.

22 Apr 2018 21:12:45
DRAFT DAY
to Dallas
JVR

to Toronto
4th

Toronto isn't going to resign JVR, and Dallas would be well served to sign him, as their wing depth is fairly putrid. Getting exclusive rights to him may be worth it, especially to get someone like that to play with Faksa or Spezza.

22 Apr 2018 21:33:24
Cant really see Toronto trading his rights and I can’t see Dallas being that interested in using a considerable amount of cap space on another forward, they should be looking at their defense and depth.

24 Apr 2018 00:02:00
Their wing depth really isn't very good.

21 Apr 2018 05:55:31
TJ Brodie + 4th 2019 for 1st 2018 (DAL) Top 10 Protected + Jason Robertson

Sam Bennett for 3rd 2018 + Stelio Mattheos

These trades give Dallas a top pairing d man that they need and Carolina a middle 6 center with potential that they've been looking for.

It has become quite obvious that one of Calgary's struggles has been scoring and based on the market and Calgary's current assets I believe the best thing for them to do is trade for prospects that have potential to make an impact next year. Both Mattheos and Robertson have shown great scoring ability in junior, have good size, and are RW. Robertson I believe could very possibly make the jump to the NHL next year and be a good player. His finishing around the net and high IQ could pair nicely with Gaudreau and Monahan.

21 Apr 2018 06:09:32
Here come the GM's underrating Brodie. Hate it, very underrated defencemen would love to have him on my team but the 2nd trade is off a bit.

21 Apr 2018 16:43:26
For the second trade would you say Bennett alone gets more or less?

20 Apr 2018 13:29:33
I read multiple article drafting that if Erik Karlson is traded this summer Mtl will be part of the deal. Of course not as the reicever of Karlson but because of the cap and the fact that Dorion and Melnyk wants Bobby Ryan to be part of any deal for Karlson could mtl add prospect or picks and take his contract or part of it for it? Could this be possible

Ott: Klingberg, Gurianov, Honka

Dallas: Karlson

Mtl: Ryan(no retention), Lindell, Faksa

20 Apr 2018 14:26:31
I don't think Dallas would trade Kling straight up for EK. Think age and contract man. Also adding all those pieces? I don't think Dallas considers this for a second.

20 Apr 2018 14:57:01
hell no from mtl.

20 Apr 2018 18:42:11
Don’t know the prospect but just guessing he’s a recent 1st rounder, plus 3 high potential young defence men and Faksa. No way from Dallas. Forgot to mention Klingberg was probably high in Norris talks this season.

21 Apr 2018 04:39:21
lindell and faksa are 3rd line players for taking on 7.5 million cap dump for 4 years ya he'll no

Mtl give Paul byron and Daniel Carr to Dallas to take on alzner and schlemko.

21 Apr 2018 04:49:15
klindberg is only 2 years younger than karlsson and nowhere near his level and all the prospects are all ahl players so sorry but this is a big yes from Dallas

Faksa and lindell really? to take on Bobby ryan contract ok then ottawa gives ceci and pageau would u take bobby ryan with him? I don't think so and btw ceci+pageau> lindell + faksa.

21 Apr 2018 18:18:52
Esa Lindell is a top 23 year old LHD who just had 27 points this year playing on thw secod pair. that's not a third line player wtf.

21 Apr 2018 23:02:13
@MTL4LIFE Kling might only be 2 years younger than Karlsson and not quite as good, but Karlsson has one year left at 7.5 mill before he leaves or you pay him 12.5 mill. Klingberg is in a tier not very far below the best Dmen in the league and has 4 more years at $4.25 million.

So if his great contract and the cap space it leaves Ottawa in the trade isn’t a great asset in your eyes, then why do you feel the habs deserve a ton more to take on bobby Ryans contract? In your response, Cap space isn’t an asset when talking about the sens trade, and then very next paragraph when it pertains to the habs it’s all of a sudden an asset that can’t be bought cheap lol can’t have it both ways.

22 Apr 2018 13:54:13
Lindel is extremely underrated he’d be the 2nd best dman on the Canadians he makes almost no mistakes Dallas will not trade him for anything on Montreal ( besides 4th overall) don’t comment on a player you do not know. If you watched him play you could see he is one of the most underrated players in the NHL he played top pairing in his rookie season for the most part.

20 Apr 2018 05:47:50
The kings haven't contended in awhile with there core and now it's probably time for a Rebuild.

LA: Doughty

Toronto: Nylander and 2020 1st * or Brown , Lindgren, 2018 1st And 2020 1st *

* Conditional If leafs resign Doughty

LA: gets a great package for a rental who will leave for free in the summer anyway

Toronto: gets the advantage of giving Doughty his 8th year and basically ensures he signs there.

LA: Carter

Stl: Kyrou and 1st 2018

LA: gets two A prospect to stack there pipeline

Stl: if they miss out on Tavares they desperately need a top line Center to contend.

LA: Toffoli

Dallas: Honka and 44th overall 2018

LA: gets rid of a struggling yet effective player who'd benefit from a change of scenery.

Dallas: Brings in a pretty consistent 25 goal scorer.

20 Apr 2018 14:19:50
So blues should trade the best ohl player this year and thier first for Jeff carter. 33 year old 2nd 3rd line center who missed 55 gsmes last year. That's a huge no.

20 Apr 2018 18:34:58
He’s an PPG player in the right situation he’s easily a 1st line C. What if saint Louis adds Steen and Thomas and replaces Carter with Kopitar.

20 Apr 2018 20:13:48
Thomas killing it in the ohl playoffs right now. Kyrou was best ohl player this year. I like kopitar but he will be 37 when his contract is over at 10 mil a year. Schenn performed the 1c just fine blues need a 2c but not at cost of kyrou or thomas. They are the future and cheap elc controlled contracts. Blues are better off going for Tavares or statsny. Thomas will be reday in a year or so.

20 Apr 2018 20:47:09
Overpayment on the first two but not enough for Toffoli IMO. Also does Dallas want to trade a young D with potential for a forward?

20 Apr 2018 20:57:11
Like I said if blues miss out on Tavares. Good luck going anywhere with Schenn/ stasney as a number 1c.

21 Apr 2018 00:50:16
I'm sorry but schenn has been the best center we have had in the last 5+ years. Thomas will be able to fill in top 6 very soon. Kyrou is the dynamic rw blues need besides tarasenko. SChen had 28 goals 70 pts +10. The blues dominated the league till injuries and allen crippled the team. Carter missed 57 games with injury and has never hit the 70 point mark he is 33 and when his contract ends he will be 37 38. No thanks. I do however think it's funny you suggest to trade us a center who is worse than the one the blues have for a bad contract and older player. No thanks. Good luck with kopitar, carter playing to 38.

13 Apr 2018 03:04:50
Flyers have cap space for 2018-19 and potentially need a third line centre until prospects can come up. They also need another RHD prospect and scoring winger prospects and have an abundance of LHD players and prospects (Sanheim, Morin, Hagg, Provorov, Gostisbehere).

Dallas desperately needs secondary scoring from resilient (non-injury prone) players.

Ottawa needs prospects - lots of them.

Trade 1:
DAL: Simmonds ($3.975MM NTC until 2019)
PHI: 2018 1st (13th overall), 2018 2nd, 2018 CHI 4th, Jason Spezza ($7.5MM until 2019 M-NTC/NMC) (cap dump)
Simmonds accepts because he'll want a new deal in a state tax free jurisdiction and Dallas has cap space. Spezza accepts because the Flyers are in the playoffs this year and present a better opportunity to win next year)

Trade 2:
PHI: 2018 1st (2nd overall)
OTT: STL 2018 1st (14th overall), PHI 2018 (19th overall), Sam Morin, Mike Vecchione
(Morin is NHL ready and would've been on the roster but for Travis Sanheim, Dave Hakstol, and 2 injuries. Vecchione is NHL ready with a 3C ceiling)

Flyers draft:
2nd overall: Andrei Svechnikov or Brady Tkachuk
13th overall: Bode Wilde, Ryan Merkeley, or Grigori Denisenko

13 Apr 2018 05:55:22
haven't gostisbehere and provorov played the last 2-3 seasons?

13 Apr 2018 06:30:40
Tkatchuk 2nd overall yikes man better options! But fits their org mold for sure. Also for sure not trading Vecchione, guy chose to sign there they won’t trade him.

13 Apr 2018 12:26:54
Dallas won’t trade that pick as they are hosting the draft. And imo that’s not enough to move up to 2nd overall.

13 Apr 2018 15:55:40
PKane88: yes, Provorov has been playing for 2 years and Ghost for 3 years. That's why I said players and prospects.

McJesus: I've seen Tkachuk as high as second but on average 4th overall. I haven't seen Tkachuk, Svechnikov etc play so I trust draft boards. The only consensus I've seen in this draft is Dahlin = 1st overall.

I'll disagree on Vecchione. He signed before last year's draft lottery and Nolan Patrick occupying a spot in the lineup. I think Hextall sees Vorobyev as higher than Vecchione. As a more mature college player, his upside is lower but entry to the NHL quicker than a draft pick or Voro. It'd be a favour to Vecchione to get him playing NHL minutes.

vbbbvvbb: they'd be more reluctant to trade it for sure but it's not out of the question. Getting Simmonds and making a splash in free agency (Tavares? Kane? ) would offset any PR backlash by trading a pick. It's a consideration but I couldn't see them keeping it when it would make sense for them to trade it given the right deal.

PS I could also see this type of trade (trading for 2-5 overall) working with other teams that need prospect depth vice top line quality. I could see Ottawa and Arizona looking to trade down for additional 1st round picks. Philadelphia has tremendous depth but need top line quality. New York is looking to trade up as well.
Just my thoughts.

13 Apr 2018 16:04:42
vbbbvvbb: "And imo that’s not enough to move up to 2nd overall" I think it's plenty to move up. This draft is not 2015. It's not enough to get Dahlin but 14th, 19th, Morin, and Vecchione is definitely a solid offer.

Morin is NHL ready and is an immediate improvement to their bottom pair, if not their 4 spot. Although the fact that he's a former 1st rounder is irrelevant, he was drafted as a project with a later NHL entry date. He'd be on the Flyers now if not for aforementioned reasons.

Vecchione will never be a top 6 forward but is a good NHL prospect that is NHL ready. Many Flyers fans argue he should've been on the roster this year but blame Hakstol's infatuation with slow, aging veterans.

This is for 2nd overall, not Jack Eichel 2nd overall. 14th and 19th are quality picks and 2-5 overall doesn't guarantee a game changing player ie Dylan Strome. The value is there.

13 Apr 2018 17:15:10
Imo you overrate Morin. Even with Sanhiem who is much better/ Valuable I doubt the other team would accept.

13 Apr 2018 17:31:50
Frankly, I don't think you know enough about Morin or Sanheim to make that determination. Sure, Sanheim definitely has a higher ceiling.
It was a toss-up as to who would stay with the team after training camp. Both had great camps and if we didn't have so many young defencemen, both would have made it. Morin also would've drawn into the lineup this year after AMac's injury and Gudas' suspension but Morin got hurt. He was snakebitten this year but was certainly meritorous.

2 mid firsts, Morin, and Vecchione is a solid offer that suits the needs of both parties, not a lopsided homer proposal. I'd hate to give up Morin and those picks, but quality is the cost of quality.

13 Apr 2018 20:43:42
I just think you underestimate the value of the 2nd overall pick no it’s not in the same Catagory as Dahlin but the team trading the pick would need to be an offensive loaded team in desperate need of defence and is no where near contention. So possibly Buffalo is really the only choice the asking price would start with Provornov straight up or Ghost++. Regardless top 5 picks don’t get traded.

13 Apr 2018 21:15:04
Ottawa aren't trading that pick
Dream on and enjoy the series.

13 Apr 2018 23:55:20
vbbb: I think you overestimate the 2nd overall pick. These are highly talented yet unproven players. Again, please stop acting like mid-first round picks are worthless. The two leading contenders for the Calder Trophy (Barzal and McAvoy) were taken in the teens. The quality is there. I can name a bunch of recent Top 5 picks that have underwhelmed (Reinharts, Yakupov, E Lindholm, Bennett, Dal Colle, D Strome, Juolevi) .

For teams looking for a complete rebuild that who miss out on Dahlin, getting two picks in the teens and a solid prospect is worthwhile. One can argue that Ottawa and Arizona need prospect depth and should sacrifice quality for less quality but quantity. All of those top teams need a Dahlin, but there's a distinct difference between 1 and 2. It's a reasonable strategy. The teams that could trade that pick suck overall and could use any player, but the logic is that two players are better than one and quality picks occur in the teens.

Any team would love to have Dahlin, but the Flyers are one of the last teams that need him given their quality and youth on defence.

13 Apr 2018 23:57:59
Keyhabs: I'm a cynic by nature so I'll assume the "enjoy the series" remark was directed at the Flyers playing Spearing Sidney and the Cowardly Pengwhines. If so, stones and glass houses and such. Enjoy the offseason with Bergevin with a cancerous Weber contract, no starting centre, a thin prospect pool, and a listless captain leading to a decade of mediocrity.

14 Apr 2018 01:05:13
Arizona does not need depth they’re pretty loaded could use another dman and Center. Ottawa has good depth at all positions imo. Neither team is looking to trade that pick only team that could potentially is Edmonton and they’re searching for a different package. Maybe Simmonds and Ghost for Tkachuk? That’s what I’d ask for if I were Edmonton. A potential gritty presence that’s will likely put up 30-40-70 seasons considering he’s more hyped then his bro who is already a Cornerstone piece.

14 Apr 2018 03:46:04
Just took a quick overview of Zthe sens prospect pool there C depth is very solid but they do need a stud dman. So I think a Provornov-Svechnikov/ Tkachuk swap would be fair.

14 Apr 2018 16:48:25
vbbb: Arizona has lots of top prospects (if you consider Dylan Strome to still be a top prospect) but little depth. Ottawa does not have a strong prospect pool. In fact, the Hockey Writers ranked them 27/ 31 at the start of this season. The Senators need depth; they need everything. I suggested Arizona and Ottawa because several pundits (I can't find the article) suggested that they consider trading down. Dorion very recently ruled it out.

You completely underestimate Ghost and Provorov. Provorov is a #1 defenceman at 21 years old and was tied for the most goals among defencemen in the league this year. Ghost finished with 65 points, 3 off the lead for defencemen. Their analytics numbers were through the roof; they didn't get much credit because they were only paired together the last 3 third of the season.

It's hilarious that you think Simmonds+Ghost = Tkachuk. I'd take Ghost over Matthew Tkachuk right now. Provorov for Tkachuk is an even bigger joke.

You're clueless.

14 Apr 2018 18:26:27
Ghost is 1 dimensional I’ll take Mathew Tkachuk over him any day. Obviously Provornov is amazing and almost any team besides Carolina/ Nashville/ Calargry would take Provornov over Brady Tkachuk both will be elite. But you don’t trade a top 5 pick unless it’s an offer so ridiculous you can’t say no to.

14 Apr 2018 19:51:08
Ghost is far from 1 dimensional. He's been a very complete defenceman this year and managed to rack up 65 points. 65 points! Again, you're clueless. Any team would take Provorov, proven at the NHL level, over a talented yet ultimately unproven entity in Brady Tkachuk. Furthermore, Provorov is a better defenceman than Matthew Tkachuk is a forward.

"But you don’t trade a top 5 pick unless it’s an offer so ridiculous you can’t say no to" Again, this assumes that the top 5 pick is a surefire NHL star, which it's not. Hello Dylan Strome, Nail Yakupov etc. 14th and 19th overall gives you two quality players.

14 Apr 2018 20:30:57
I believe Brady Tkachuk>>Mathew Tkachuk and I’m sure anyone who’s seen both play would agree. Ghost is a younger Kevin Shattenkurk. I don’t claim to be a Flyers fan but from what I’ve seen his minutes are sheltered. Again I don’t watch majority of his games. I like him but I’ll take both Tkachuk over him on a leafs team who needs a RHD so that says a lot. Also you’re talking like 14th and 19th overall are going to play in the NHL. They both have potential to be stars but they’re far more likely to bust while the 2nd overall pick is almost guaranteed to be a cornerstone player. I’m not denying in what you stated Provornov>Tkachuk and I’m not saying flyers should accept it but that’s what it’d take.

14 Apr 2018 22:36:19
Yo 1st off you need to understand that they call it a draft (lottery) for a reason!

Just because ottawa finished 2nd last in the standings it doesn't mean they will get the 2nd overall pick. They won't get lower than the 5th pick but also have the 2nd best odds of getting the "number 1" pick.

That being said, this package yet again is a major low ball offer towards the sens like every other pathetic excuse of a trade proposal most of you people post. Get real and start basing returns on their players and assets with actually value not your own messed up thoughts on how they aren't worth equal value to their other team equivalents!

14 Apr 2018 23:46:09
vbbb: you admittedly know very little about the Flyers then talk about how Ghost's minutes are sheltered from what you've seen. To correct you yet again, host plays on the top pair with Provorov and goes against the other team's best lines. The only favourable minutes he gets is on the power play. Ghost was a younger Kevin Shattenkirk when he first entered the league, but not know. Catch up. You keep digging the hole deeper for yourself.

"I like him but I’ll take both Tkachuk over him on a leafs team who needs a RHD so that says a lot" this implies, but it's not explicitly stated, that Ghost is a RHD. He's not, he plays RD but is left handed. Again, you're clueless.

The second overall pick is not almost guaranteed to be a cornerstone player. Again, Yakupov, Murray, Strome etc. And I don't talk as though mid-firsts are guaranteed to be NHL players; you fail to recognize the fact that there are two mid-firsts. Teams wanting to hedge their bets and get two quality players can trade down vice taking the chance to get one very skilled player but it turn out to be a Yakupov.

14 Apr 2018 23:52:15
"Yo 1st off you need to understand that they call it a draft (lottery) for a reason! " No sh*t Sherlock, but it makes it way more difficult to propose a trade with %7.5 chance of the 3rd overall pick etc. It would be impossible to propose a trade otherwise so we assume the draft lottery plays out like the percentages indicate.

As to your last paragraph, I base mine off the value of draft picks by Scott Cullen at TSN and Stats Sports Consulting. My proposed trade of PHI-OTT is below:

Cullen:
2nd overall: 7.79

14th overall: 5.25
19th overall: 4.44

Even without Morin and Vecchione, it's technically overpayment.

SCS:
2nd overall: 871

14th overall: 456
19th overall: 364

Morin and Vecchione certainly bridge the 51 point gap.

"Get real and start basing returns on their players and assets with actually value not your own messed up thoughts on how they aren't worth equal value to their other team equivalents"

Who has the messed up thoughts? You're clueless.

15 Apr 2018 16:17:23
14th and 19th pick have what? A 30 to 35% chance at best of making a real impact in the nhl and not just being role players. They are very rare.
Top 10 have a 50 to 65% chance of making that impact while top 5 are between 70 and 85% which is all but a guarrenteed they'll be something.
This is the equivalent of trading Erik karlsson for yannik Weber and Ben Ryan. who you ask? Exactly my point, it's a trade no-one in there right mind would even consider.

If ottawa had any intention of moving that pick, especially not knowing if it'll turn into the 1st or not and I'm not saying they should because I wouldn't, it would be the islanders who would have the best shot at landing it.

Nyi : both 1sts they own (8th and 10th overall), the rights to Tavares

Ott : Ottawa's 1st (top 5 overall no matter what but best projected at 1 or 2), and either gaborik, Smith, and burrows or Ryan, and gaborik.

Islanders take the risk at 1 or 2 by giving 2 top 10 with the lowest odds at number 1 plus the rights to a superstar who refuses to resign with them and might very well refuse ottawa too and taking on 2 big cap hits one (ryan) who is still a good threat offensively for reasons I've stated in the past.

Ottawa loses its best chance at dahlin but gains 2 more slight chances to move up in a weak draft year and a shot to sign Tavares before anyone else talks to him all while dumping 2 huge contracts which would free the money needed to sign Tavares as well as EK and stone.

Trade value of draft picks example I have off the top of my head is the 2008 draft class when ottawa traded the 17th overall pick plus a 3rd round pick that year to move up just 2 spots to 15th and draft Erik karlsson.
keep in mind that no-one at that point in time could have ever imagined that EK would go on to become the best defenceman in the world.
But a trade for a pick only 2 spots higher costed them a 3rd on top of theirs for a pick that wasn't even top 10.
Trades like this happen every single year and thus if the 15th is worth that much then 1 or 2 with most definitely be worth a whole lot more

15 Apr 2018 16:39:31
If you’re offered to Role the dice between- Tyler Seguin, Gabriel Landeskog, Ryan Murray, Alexander Barkov, Sam Rienhart, Jack Eichel, Patrick Liane and Nolan Patrick or a package of Ghost and Simmonds. I’m rolling the dice especially considering Svechnikov is much more Hyped then Rienhart, Murray and probably Patrick.

15 Apr 2018 16:54:56
Firstly, I doubt Svechnikov is more hyped than Reinhart, Murray, and Patrick. There's a recency effect at play; we only remember Reinhart now that he's underwhelmed rather than remembering his pre-draft hype.

Secondly, I didn't propose Simmonds and Ghost for X player. However, Ghost is better than at least half of your list and that doesn't include Simmonds.

15 Apr 2018 16:59:20
NoBiasRambo:

Your Ottawa trade is massive overpayment by the Islanders. Do me a favour and post that in its own thread.

Where did you come up with those numbers in the start of your post? ie the 30-35%, 50-65%, and 70-85% chance? Let me guess - these are your own messed up thoughts.

"This is the equivalent of trading Erik karlsson for yannik Weber and Ben Ryan. who you ask? Exactly my point, it's a trade no-one in there right mind would even consider. "

This is the most idiotic statement I've read on here in a while and is not at all what I suggested. I proposed trading draft picks, not NHL players. There's a massive difference between trading upcoming draft picks and real NHL players, especially veterans like the ones you cited. No sane person proposes trades of veteran players based on their draft position. Give your head a shake.

15 Apr 2018 23:24:13
How on earth is that possibly an over payment from the islanders easy e? Like get real dude!

Tavares and Josh Bailey will not be back in New York next season. frees up over 12 million which is more than enough to take on either of those packages. Ryan provides some of the scoring they'll miss from JT as well. and any of the top 3 PICKS are and always have been worth at least 2 top 5 to 10 picks. if it ends up being 1st overall this year with dahlin as the prize then that alone is worth everything they gave up just based on his hype alone. outside the top 5 this is a very weak draft class as well. ottawa is basically hoping one of those picks breaks in to top 3 via lottery odds if anything.

16 Apr 2018 00:52:37
I’ll definitely take Landeskog, Seguin, Eichel, Liane and Barkov over Ghost. I’ll even roll the dice on Patrick watching him play I think he has tremendous potential.

11 Apr 2018 20:24:07
Stars: 13th overall

Flyers: Simmonds

Stars: gain a a versatile top 6 winger who is a pp specialtist. He would provide much needed secondary scoring

Flyers: Cash in on a rental player if they don't believe they'll contend or to bring up a younger guy.

12 Apr 2018 00:27:29
I think this is actually a good idea so good trade for once. But I believe it may take a pick around nunber 10-11 to get Simonds.

12 Apr 2018 03:02:38
Really colt? He proposes the 13th overall but you’re fine tuning it to the 10th or 11th based on your expertise that you have so brilliantly displayed on this site?

12 Apr 2018 03:46:16
I wouldn't trade a pick like that in this draft.

12 Apr 2018 06:03:46
"around nunber 10-11". 13 isn't just that? Lol.

12 Apr 2018 06:21:59
I’d say the Stars would rather the youth.

12 Apr 2018 14:16:50
Just realized the draft is in Dallas so this trade will not happen.

12 Apr 2018 21:53:13
I'd take it but I think Simmonds could get more.

09 Apr 2018 01:08:01
Dallas trades: guryanov, spezza, Lindell

Vancouver trades: Sutter, Goldobin, Hutton, 3rd round pick

09 Apr 2018 14:14:28
Lindell is not being traded and especially not for that very underrated reminds me of Jacob Slavin.

10 Apr 2018 20:01:22
No no no no no no... rebuilding with old player... just... no

01 Apr 2018 21:35:21
TJ Brodie for DAL 2018 1st + J. Robertson

M. Stone + 6th 2019 for PHI 3rd 2018

27 Mar 2018 00:29:32
If Vegas does well this post season and can justify bringing in another veteran, I'd propose:

Vegas: Simmonds ($3.975MM UFA 2019)

Philadelphia: 2020 1st, Canucks 2018 4th, Dallas 2020 2nd, Conditional 2019 3rd (2019 Vegas 3rd becomes better pick of 2019 CLB or VGK 2nd if Simmonds re-signs).

Philadelphia may not be able to afford Simmonds' next contract and Vegas would most benefit from his character and leadership. The extra pick is because many of the picks occur in 2019 or 2020.

17 Mar 2018 19:38:19
To NYI:
Philipp Grubauer

To WSH:
Michael Dal Colle
Conditional pick 2019


For the Isles, it's clear. They get a young 1B goalie who can challenge his countryman Greiss for the starter's job.

Caps get a LW prospect who seems to be a bust but still can turn it around if given a chance to play with skilled players. The conditional pick will depend on games played by MDC in 2018-19. If he plays less than 40 NHL games, Caps also get CGY's 2nd in 2019. If he plays 41+ games, there's no pick from the Isles (similar to Drouin-Sergachev trade).

17 Mar 2018 20:13:44
Lol going to take a much better goalie.

18 Mar 2018 12:47:07
Honestly, not too bad.

Problem is, Isles have tried too many 'iffy' goalies (Greiss, Berube, Halak, Gibson, etc. ) and I feel that Grub may fall into the same boat, considering he doesn't have any seasons as a 'starter' under his belt. I could see them going after a guy like Anttii Raanta, or even a guy like Craig Anderson due to their experience.

But the proposed trade is pretty fair imo.

19 Mar 2018 22:28:15
Post some of those unbiased leaf trades for a change. Leafs could use a dman or two . I hear Paul martin is on the market lol.

20 Mar 2018 02:33:09
Concede.

07 Mar 2018 04:15:41
Ottawa sends Ceci, Ryan, Condon to Dallas for Spezza, Methot and Bishop

07 Mar 2018 20:56:16
Lol what.

Spezza>Ryan, Methot=Ceci, Bishop>>Condon. Lo.

07 Mar 2018 21:18:16
I’m assuming it’s a joke, first of all because of value, but Also because sens had all 3 of those players and got nothing for Methot, Conacher for bishop and a bunch of scraps for Spezza lol.

08 Mar 2018 20:20:55
Its true - I was just thinking of a way to move Ryan and Ceci and get something back in return. Spezza and Methot will both be off the books in a year, and Bishop is a definite upgrade.

09 Mar 2018 05:46:27
Well, it wasn't intended to be a joke. more of a salary exchange, and Ottawa coming out of the deal with a useful goaltender.

09 Mar 2018 20:42:35
In what world is spezza better than ryan? Rofl

Ryan > spezza
Ceci =/ > methot (based on age and potential Ceci is better)
But I will agree that
Bishop >> Condon

Change Condon to Andy and it's an ok deal.

05 Mar 2018 04:08:41
Edmonton:
C. Price G
B. Gallagher RW

Montreal:
R. Nugent-Hopkins C
J. Puljujarvi LW
C. Talbot G

Dallas:
S. Webber D

Montreal:
J. Spezza C

05 Mar 2018 04:41:59
Hell no on both wth.

05 Mar 2018 05:09:43
Total no on the 2nd but if you can somehow take gallahger out of the 1st and whatever from edm to make it work I do that one.

05 Mar 2018 06:05:18
Holy no from Edmonton and Dallas lol.

05 Mar 2018 06:30:26
Hahahaha. Don't want anything to do with Price and that contract especially at his age. Especially for those three pieces. Take it Gallagher and they laugh at you.

05 Mar 2018 14:45:31
No obviously from Edm but c'mon man Dallas makes it out like bandits
@McJesus Christ97
@LesHabitants.

05 Mar 2018 17:34:31
@Mcjesuschrist 97 u think dallas would say no to that they would take it and run webber is a #1dman and spezza is horrible.

05 Mar 2018 18:50:06
Man Spezza has one more year of his contract and Weber has like 8 more at the same cap. obviously no from Dallas cap wise. And Weber isn’t the same player he once was, not saying spezza is any good because he's not. But I said no for cap and contract wise Dallas is going to stay away from Weber’s contract.

05 Mar 2018 21:21:24
Lol. Huge no from Edm and Dal. Jeez.

06 Mar 2018 02:43:36
loool. so you would trade Subban straight up for Spezza?

06 Mar 2018 03:28:41
These Price trades are jus rediculous. kinda getting old.

06 Mar 2018 04:13:24
At least it's not pacioretty or karrlson Sosa.

06 Mar 2018 09:08:04
Dallas would for sure say no you are stuck with Weber! Edmonton gives to much.

06 Mar 2018 18:43:52
Weber may not be as good as he once was but he’s still number one dman that’d help any team out in all situations. IMO he’s underrated I’d put him in the Ryan Suter Catagory. I think Dallas takes that and runs and I think The 1st Trade is a good deal.

12 Mar 2018 00:54:10
I heard price was going to carolina this summer, no? Lol.

19 Feb 2018 00:58:26
Ottawa trades
Mike Hoffman

Nashville trades
Eeli Tolvanen
Pouts Aberg

Ottawa trades
Cody Ceci

Tampa trades
Yanni Gourde
3rd round pick 2018

Ottawa trades
Johnny Oduya

Dallas trades
3rd or 4th round pick 2018

Ottawa trades
Derrick Brassard
Nick Paul

St. Louis trades
Ivan Barbashev
Jordan Kyrou
2nd round pick 2019

Ottawa trades
Zach Smith
CalgaChabot
Harpur.

19 Feb 2018 04:45:38
1. don't think NSH is going to give up Tolvanen
2. TBL isn't trading Gourde i'm assuming . He's having a good rookie season
3. don't think Oduya is worth that much. 5th rd at most i would think.
4. that's a lot from STL
5. idk.

19 Feb 2018 05:11:56
From stl what do any of those players do fir blues

Smith-30 yr old center barley gets 30+ points bottom six role. Blues have plenty of those type players.

Chabot- stl has vince dunn, Joel edmondson, and soon to be jake walman on lhd so not a need.

Harpur- not a very good dman on a side we are already set in lol

Awful

Besides that hoff88 pegged the rest of the offers.

19 Feb 2018 08:50:34
Who is going to St. Louis? If you follow the trades down, you have brassard, nick Paul, chabot, smith and Harpur going I think lol who Ottawa is trading is the first listed in each proposal, but then he has more players leaving Ottawa destined for nowhere.

19 Feb 2018 09:36:40
TB would not give Gourde straight up for Ceci, let alone adding a pick lol.

19 Feb 2018 12:53:32
The smith trade was suppose to be smith for rasmus Andersson or Oliver klington and a 4th but it glitches out on me. For the brassard trade Bob McKenzie said that Ottawa wants a 1st, 2nd, a roster player and a goalie prospect which I think is too much so I went with a roster player a prospect and a pick.

19 Feb 2018 15:19:46
You're name says it all stoner.

19 Feb 2018 16:01:16
Please colt out of all the unrealistic post you made. you don’t really have room to talk lol.

21 Feb 2018 11:16:55
All but oduya trade are trash for ottawa.

15 Feb 2018 17:54:01
LA fires the first shot in the California trade war..


Ducks Pacoretti

Habs Nick Ritchie, Sam Steele, 2018 2nd


Sharks Nash

NYR Hertl, 2018 1st, 2018 4th.



And to keep pace in the arms race....

Dallas Hoffman

Ottawa 2018 1st, Faksa, Vala


Florida 2018 3rd 2019 4th

Calgary Vrbada

15 Feb 2018 19:32:50
Seems like a lot for Nash.

15 Feb 2018 19:55:20
Lol nash ainy getting that return.

15 Feb 2018 20:29:03
Hoff.
Yes it is, but I think there will be a bidding war for his services pushing up the usual price tag for a UFA rental.

15 Feb 2018 20:37:22
No shot Steele is involved in the deal for ANA. He is their future down the middle.

15 Feb 2018 22:43:54
Wouldn’t hold my breath for that kinda return if I was a Habs fan. I personally think they’d be lucky to get steel straight up for Pacioretty IF ducks even had interest in him. Not s chance ducks give both steel and Richie AND a second. not a chance. GM would be unemployed if he made that trade.

15 Feb 2018 23:11:14
Seems like big overpayments for all the guys. I don't think Flames need Vrbata.

14 Feb 2018 08:01:05
STARS: Tanev, Vanek, goldobin, 3rd

CANUCKS: Honka, 1st

14 Feb 2018 10:15:30
Add in Heiskanen and it’s fair.

14 Feb 2018 12:53:02
Add in Heiskanen? You're kidding right?

14 Feb 2018 15:45:32
lolllllllll dream on.

14 Feb 2018 23:01:51
Although the original post is not a good proposal, Heiskanen would not be part of a trade for Tanev.

15 Feb 2018 17:12:32
Take out first at heiskanen.

08 Feb 2018 17:04:46
DAL: Hoffman
OTT: Gurianov, Dickinson, 1st Round.

09 Feb 2018 11:27:55
Ottawa say no way.

08 Feb 2018 16:56:58
N. Meloche + 3rd 2019 for E. Gudbranson

N. Zadorov + 1st 2018 + A. Greer for R. McDonagh

Colorado has a deadly defense in a couple years to pair with their budding offensive stars.
Vancouver gets a decent defense prospect and a decent pick for Gudbranson, probably one of the better packages they'll get offered.
Rangers get some great peices to retool. Zadorov is already a top 4 d man and Greer is showing top 9 potential. The pick is in a stacked draft. McDonagh is a borderline elite defenseman but I don't see them getting a much better package than this

08 Feb 2018 22:36:12
No from Colorado IMO.

05 Feb 2018 18:39:35
Not my word but analysts says that the asking price for Pacioretty is a A prospect, An Nhler, a 1st and a 2d

Mtl) Pacioretty + Plekanec (50% retained)
Dal) Gurianov + Faksa + 1st + 2d + Cap dump

Why for Mtl) Molson said it... time to priorize the future
Why for Dallas) Plekanec is ufa in July and even if he will have a 3mill cap hit, he would fit awesomely in the 4th line
Reuniting Patch and Radu is going to make Dallas offense the best in the league

05 Feb 2018 20:21:55
No body will give in to that asking price. This is classic ask high and settle a lot lower.
He will not bring back a 1st, 2nd, top prospect and good roster player.

06 Feb 2018 02:02:44
Man its not like Gurianov is a future elite and that 1st could almost be a secound with Patch and Plek bringing them to the top 5 in the league.

06 Feb 2018 04:09:03
Plekanec is teriable way would dallas want him?

06 Feb 2018 13:39:42
How is plekanec terrible?

24 Jan 2018 07:46:49
Canucks: Vanek
Islanders: dal colle

Canucks: gudbranson and chaput
Leafs 1st round pick

Canucks: Hutton
Penguins conditional pick if they win the cup canucks get a first if not canucks get a 2nd round pick

24 Jan 2018 11:24:04
I’d pass on all 3. quickly.

24 Jan 2018 13:31:14
Lol. All very very good for Vancouver and not good for the other team. Is this High247?

 
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