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15 Feb 2019 16:05:46
Here's a thought considering the way Dallas management is acting with their stars plus the stars poor performances this year especially benn and Seguin.

Ott : stone, Duchene, dzingle, Ceci, Paul

Dal : Seguin, benn, Klingberg

Dallas with all the ex sens basically becomes sens west lol.

15 Feb 2019 18:07:07
Bahahahahha.

15 Feb 2019 20:39:55
So DAL downgrades at every position for. Paul?
lol.

15 Feb 2019 21:10:26
Omg. This has to be one of the worst proposals I’ve seen on this site yet.

15 Feb 2019 21:39:46
The package coming from Ottawa of UFA's, top 9 player, bottom 6 D and c+ prospect dosnt even get you 2 of those players together. Seguin and been is too much for that package and so is Klingberg and Been.

15 Feb 2019 21:44:44
Topshelfslappers what is so funny? Do you want me to add that the Ottawa guys agree to resign? Because that's the only thing that's lopsided about this deal in Ottawa favour?

Duchene and stone are expected to make close to the same as Seguin and benn make now salary wise. And both Ottawa guys are and have been all along better defensively that the 2 Dallas guys and currently better offencively this season as well, don't believe me look it up! Besides that it's been what? 3 - 4 years now that benn and seguin have not bee themselves? How many years does it take for their value to drop when it took Duchene one year according to you all to drop value significantly even though his play got much better?

As for Klingberg he's a great offencive Dman but needs work defencively, clearly an upgrade on Ceci and cap friendly I get that but that's nothing that dzingle and Paul value can't make up for especially seeing as how Klingberg would take on an EK/ SJS like 2nd pairing role in Ottawa as he ain't bumping chabot the way he's been going and demelo being the compliment to that, I rather see him on the 2 pair with Lajoie.

As for Dallas the get a brand new top line that already has a chemistry about them as well as a Dman with past experience playing with Methot in EKs absence and a kid they drafted and were once very high on who could more easily slip in to a role with main team their than in Ottawa as they have an older team with not as many young guys to have to out play to get a spot. Paul could easily slip in bottom 6, Ceci in top 4 and the other 3 most likely top line but could work anywhere in top 6, and with spezza coming off the books this offseason it's more than affordable for Dallas. Maybe Dallas even flips dzingle, and Ceci, and a 1st in 2020 to Edmonton for nuge who's on the block as well, leaving them with plenty top 6 line combo possibilities, and enough cap to go after panarin as well in offseason.

Panarin Duchene radulov
Nushishkin nuge stone

Or vice versa either would be great and they still have hanzel, Dickinson, Daska, coumeau, and Cogliano for bottom 6 of top of my head, plus gives all their you dmen a spot to fight for like lindell, heiskenen, Honka, with Klingberg gone, while Ottawa gets a solid cap friendly 2 pair dman and 2 long term vets to build the young guys around.

Benn Seguin Ryan
Tkechuck white brown
Formenton pageau Batherson
Paajarvi teirney boadker
Smith

And chlapic, balcers, Norris, give em some flexibility to use a forward or few to upgrade the Blueline a bit more and hopefully Move smith, heck teirney value should also be a lot higher now after the season he's had as well.

16 Feb 2019 00:12:02
Extensions would have to be in place first for Dallas to consider. You never said anything about that. Instead you left it to the reader make that assumption. Pretty tall order expecting all those guys to be signed and traded by deadline. Ceci is terrible. Shouldn’t even be in nhl. Dallas would never take him on. Klingberg is a righty. If anything he would be playing with Chabot, not 2nd line.

16 Feb 2019 02:35:12
😭😭😭Omg this ain’t a troll is it. ‘Klingberg is surely an upgrade on Ceci’. Nah, you don’t say LMFAO😭😭🤣

The fact you even think that this stuff is close to equal value is hilarious, don’t come at anyone saying anything about how the Ottawa side of this deal is even close to fair. Its legitamately Dallas’ three best players for Ottawa’s second and third best players and a bunch of others that equate to zero in the grand scheme of the trade bud.

Three or four years benn and seguin haven’t been themselves? Huh? Benn won an art ross two years ago bud😭😭🤣 what are you on about man. Seguin and Benn are now app worse than Stone and Duchene unsigned oh give me a break, you can’t be serious when saying this stuff🤣🤣🤣🤣. Ask any man on the street in any part of Canada or the US i'd they know hockey and they'll take Benn and Seguin 10/ 10. You want to know why? Cause Ottawa has no leverage w either UFA, their career stats (Benn/ Seguins) are superior, their contracts are locked in and their advanced stats are just as good. And the Klingberg thing is just a whole mess lmao Klingberg EASILY himself pulls in. That package minus one of Stone or Duchene, loool.

Stop thinking every teams going to get hosed like ottawa did w. karlsson. Dorion made himself a fool and paid the price. No one else is doing that. No ones trading the three faces of a franchise for two UFAs and extras.

This is the equivalenr of me saying hey Kadri, Nylander, Brown, zaitsev and gabriel gagne pull in benn, seguin and klingberg🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 get a grip bud.

16 Feb 2019 08:45:19
I honestly don't know if Rambo is for real or if he's just pretending to be this super biased Ottawa fan. John Klingberg is not and upgrade to Ceci he's not even on the same planet. he's a top 2 defensemen while Ceci is a bottom pair at best and sometimes not even worthy of being a bottom pair defensemen. A Nathan Beaulieu type guy but Beaulieu is better. Benn and seguin are worth so much more then 2 UFA even if they're signed because those guys are not worth 8 million. Stone and Duchene are good players but at 6.5-7 million each tops. Dzingel has the value of a late first tops while Paul barely has any value. Add Chabot and White and take Dzingel and Paul out and it's closer.

16 Feb 2019 19:49:49
Ok first off Seguin and benn up till as you say, 2 to 3 years ago were better offencively than stone and Duchene I'm not arguing that, but defensive game was and is most definitely on the side of Duchene and stone no question. As of last year the offencive edge had greatly diminished and this year that offensive edge has most definitely been taken over by stone and Duchene, anyone not ignorant to the sport can clearly see that!

And the fact that they can both be signed even cheaper than the Dallas guys also works in their favour as does the current situation in Dallas putting Seguin and benn against Dallas management with the remarks made about them recently by management. If the Hoffman EK stuff this past year affected their value the way it did why would this be any different?

As for Klingberg, yes he's worth more than Ceci but Ceci whether you or I agree or not still carries value in any trade talks in the league, and that's a cold hard fact, add a top 6 forward in dzingle, who posts 40+ points a season, and has a ton of speed like he does, and a prospect originally drafted by Dallas in the first place and has a good chance at making their lineup now. That definitely makes up the difference between Klingberg and Ceci, that much is very clear!

16 Feb 2019 21:26:39
As for the person saying Klingberg would be paired with Chabot in Ottawa if this happened, do you follow how the game is played?

Klingberg is an offencive Dman who somewhat struggles defensively, while Chabot is mainly offencive Dman too I'll be it a little better defensively. You don't put 2 of those types together unless on the powerplay. Demelo compliments Chabot just fine, leaving Klingberg on 2nd pair in Ottawa likely with Lajoie!

And boomboom, go smoke some more wacky tobacky bud, your comment is a joke. Stone and Duchene are Ottawa's best 2 forwards and arguably best 2 players currently and top 40 players in the league respectively while Seguin currently barely gets in that status at number 40 while benn is in the worst year of his career since his breakout season and don't even make top 50 right now.

As for Ceci he's bad yes, but still a top 4 Dman and still better than most dmen in the league today. The only ones better are the big names, and elite prospects, of which Dallas does not have 4 or 5 of those even with Klingberg, 2 maybe 3 tops including Klingberg.

16 Feb 2019 22:20:01
Wow with all these super valuable elite players you would think the Sens wouldn’t be in

*Checks Standings*

Dead last 😂

Ceci is hot garbage, just like this proposal.

17 Feb 2019 03:17:10
Unsportsmanlike so is 85 percent of the dmen in the league don't kid yourself.

Also, stats don't lie, look it up.

And while Ottawa does have solid players, stone Duchene Chabot Lajoie pageau dzingle teirney demelo tkechuck white and even paajarvi looking good with sens

they also have the handicap of not so great players with bad contracts holding them back like smith Ceci jaros

They also have those like borwieski Ryan boadker who might not hurt the team but don't really help it much either

Add that to the kids they continue to leave in the minors and juniors rather than have them in the main lineup where they should be and can help like balcers Batherson chlapic brown and formenton

And if you don't see my point on the evaluations of stone and Duchene vs that of Seguin an benn plus the situations then you clearly don't understand the game!

In the past if you want offense you go for Dallas guys and if you want defensive forwards you take the Ottawa guys, as of now however, in either category you take the Ottawa guys, especially fully signed.

17 Feb 2019 10:46:43
Please provide “stats” that show Ceci is better than 85% of the D-Men in the NHL. Go ahead, I’ll wait here.

17 Feb 2019 17:16:26
He's a top 4 Dman who puts up points and is only out played offensively or defensively by the big names like EK, doughty, Pietrangelo, Jones etc, or has less potential/ outplayed by the elite young defence like dahlin, Chabot, heiskenen, Rielly, etc. Stats are on NHL. com for any further proof.

Now it's your turn unsportsmanlike, please provide any kind of stats you can possibly find stating he's worst than anyon outside those perameters.

How'd you put it? I'm waiting.

17 Feb 2019 18:17:23
Hey look at all those awesome stats you did not post.

I asked you for stats that show he is better than 85% of the defensemen. Your flawed opinion that he is a top 4 d-man who puts up point is not a stat.

Here's an ACTUAL stat: Cody Ceci has a pts/ 60 of 0.016. That's not even in the top 100 for defensemen in the NHL. Just because Ottawa is a DUMPSTER FIRE with zero defensive depth which forces Ceci to log huge minutes does not mean he is effective in doing so. He is also a huge reason why Ottawa has THE WORST goals against in the league (of the 296 defensemen listed, his minus 19 is the 289th) . Sounds like he's getting outplayed defensively by a few more players than the "big names" there genius.

School's out kiddo.

21 Feb 2019 15:50:14
First off I said nhl. com for stats proof you're just too lazy to look and I'm not transferring every detail on there for comparison, I'll be here all year if I did that.

2ndly, whatever that first bit you posted about pts/ 60 of 0.016 that's not even a real stat, what exactly is that supposed to be, ppg? If so, what's the 60 of 0.016? You make no sense.

And 3rdly and most importantly, plus minus, can't even be used as a top contributor in this pretext, as Ceci played and still plays on one of the weaker if not the weakest defensive teams in the league. Let's look at that mighty defence depth Ottawa has.

Chabot
Demelo
Ceci
Lajoie
Jaros
Wolanin
borwieski

In the past you can add

EK
Methot
Wideman
Clauson

But the fact is Chabot demelo and Lajoie were never around at the time of EK and Methot so really that depth chart never really changed.

You talk trash about how bad Ottawa's players are but truth be told their forwards are some of the best in the League and usually include at least 3 in top 100 and 2 in top 50, up front they have tons of depth more than most teams, heck they just got rid of 3 big guns and a depth guy last year and still have enough to role 4 solid lines and have a handful of young guys left in system waiting their shot. The defense is the problem in Ottawa outside a couple guys, always has been. Proof? Watch the Chicago game, scoring not an issue. Getting scored on is!

You wanted to be educated. You're welcome!

21 Feb 2019 20:24:18
Hahaha did you just claim points/ 60 isn't even a real stat? It's points per 60 minutes genius. Shining more light on all the things you don't know about hockey. No wonder you are out to lunch all the time.

And you're right about Ceci playing for one of the weakest defensive teams. You know what contributes to weak defense? Weak defenseman. Like Cody Ceci.

Are you seriously unable to connect the dots here? I honestly think you are trolling because natural selection should have removed somebody this thick from the gene pool by now.

11 Feb 2019 22:47:51
Detroit:
Gustav Nyquist

Dallas:
Stephen Johns
2019 2nd round pick

I believe Johns would be of interest for Detroit as a RHD and would be a good inclusion to give Dallas the necessary cap space to fit Nyuquist's contract in

12 Feb 2019 03:25:25
Johns hasn’t played all year. I would think Detroit would want a guy that is actually playing and not out long term and questionable if he’s going to recover and come back.

10 Feb 2019 15:29:23
Mtl: Gallagher

Dallas: Lindell

Mtl gets a good young LHD while Dallas gets a 30+ goal warrior who will work so hard that Seguin and Benn won't have a choice to do the same if they want to keep up with him. Or if he plays on the second line hell have the same impact but with other players. This trade works for both sides imo

10 Feb 2019 16:15:10
Did Gallagher not sign something for you? Or not wave back. he must have done something, every day your trying to trade him. can you explain why you want to trade Gallagher?

10 Feb 2019 16:46:33
Without a replacement, I don’t think Lindell is going anywhere. Lindell is playing top line beside Klingberg. After him is Heiskenan. Dallas probably doesn’t have enough faith in Heiskenan to put him top line just yet.

10 Feb 2019 18:17:24
I don’t think Dallas would consider trading him.

10 Feb 2019 18:28:29
I do not want to trade Gallagher Sosa. I really like him he's an awsome player and shows up every single game. With that being said, with Domi and Shaw playing with a similar style and Gallagher having a lot of value we could benefit by trading him for a LHD that we need.

And with his style of play Gallagher it's the right time to trade him while he's still healthy and producing. Lindell is 24 years old and on pace for 30 points as a defenceman and he is a fellow Finland player. This trade makes sense for both teams Sosa. Even you can admit that no?

10 Feb 2019 18:25:03
Probably not VB. but I also think Habs don't trade Gallagher .

10 Feb 2019 19:30:26
Nope, I can't Boom, trading Gallagher is just not the right move. a package involving Shaw, ok. But, Gallagher needs to stay.
I agree a Dman like Lindell would be great, but the cost of Gallagher would be to much, you'd also have to probably add to Gallagher for him

And just because a guy is Finnish, doesn't mean we need to add them . I'm sure KK can play with players from any country.

11 Feb 2019 18:03:02
Ok Sosa I agree that maybe trading Gallagher would still leave a massive whole in the top 6 even with Domi and Shaw. I won't propose anymore trade involving Gallagher if you can post a trade that gives mtl a good top 4 LHD and also makes sense for the other team. Deal?

04 Feb 2019 21:46:05
Zuc for Tufte + 2019 2nd

Rangers opt for a higher level prospect instead of the first and stay with a 2nd instead.

Dallas actually gets forward that can play top 6 minutes not named Benn or Radulov

31 Jan 2019 20:08:50
To Dallas: Gustav Nyquist

To Detroit: 2019 2nd round pick, 2020 1st round pick, Nicholas Caamano.

31 Jan 2019 20:17:24
A lot for a rental.

31 Jan 2019 20:25:51
And what do 45-55 point rentals return.

31 Jan 2019 20:26:49
And what do 45-55 point rentals return.

31 Jan 2019 23:42:23
Muzzin>>Nyquist

Dallas 1st>> Leafs package.

30 Jan 2019 00:54:23
EDM- Russell (1 mil retained)
BOS or CBJ- 2019 2nd, 2019 3rd
-Russell would be a good defensive D that can play up the depth chart if there’s any injuries. He’d be perfect for a playoff push and after being retained he’d make 3 million for 2 more years.

EDM- Talbot, 2019 4th
PHI- Laughton
-Philly needs better goaltending. Instead of overpaying in free agency they can see if Talbot works out and sign him at a little bit of a discount.

EDM- Chiasson, 2019 5th
WAS- Burakovsky
-Rumour is Washington is looking for a veteran top 9 forward for Burakovsky. Who better than a guy that won a cup last year with them and is on pace for 34 goals.

EDM- Rieder, 2020 4th
DAL- Nichushkin
-Similar to the Cogliano Shore trade. Dallas gets a more proven player while Edmonton gets a player that has fallen out of favour but still has potential.

EDM- Petrovic
MIN or COL- 2020 4th
-Petrovic is a UFA at the end of the season. Just a mid pick for extra depth to a playoff bubble team.

30 Jan 2019 04:13:19
Would love if all those could happen.

30 Jan 2019 04:43:56
@McJ, I know it’s not very realistic for a team to make 5 deadline deals but do you think those are realistic/ fair?

Those are all playoff teams looking to add at the deadline except Philly but that could be a smart move for them.

30 Jan 2019 05:18:10
I definitely think Russell could get moved and if we could get a 2nd round pick and get 4m in cap off that would be sweeeet. Also if it’s true Washington is looking for a veteran then that trade would be really nice for oilers even tho we take on cap so idk if that will work out.

30 Jan 2019 18:34:14
if keith can move atleast 3-4 of the following contracts with taking back minimal salary back i'd call it a huge success:
-Benning, Russell, Petro, Manning, spooner, reider, kassian and talbot.

30 Jan 2019 19:11:00
@notdelusional, Petrovic, Rieder and Talbot should all be easy to move because there UFA’s. As for Benning and Kassian I actually like them on the team even though there slightly overpaid. Lastly Manning and Spooner are on the team because of a bad GM but yeah I’d love for them to be gone.

31 Jan 2019 01:43:41
How long is it going to take to climb out of the hole Chia has dug for the oilers? I’m not seeing a ton of reasons to be optimistic for a quick turnaround.

29 Jan 2019 08:36:09
Dallas: Radulov, Hintz, Honka, 1st round pick 2019, 4th round pick 2019
St. louis: Tarasenko

29 Jan 2019 15:48:43
Why?

If the blues trade tarasenko it would be for blue chip prospects and 1st round picks. that offer is beyond crap.

29 Jan 2019 18:26:21
No from Dallas.

29 Jan 2019 19:16:21
you wish you could get tarasenko for that LOL.

29 Jan 2019 20:55:16
Far too much for Tarasenko! Seguin for Tarasenko straight up!

30 Jan 2019 09:32:14
There is nothi gj. The package worth tarasenko.

26 Jan 2019 05:42:19
I know Tampa Bay’s playing really well, but, looking ahead to next summer:

Tampa Bay Lightning Trade:
Alex Killorn [LW - 4.5 Million x 5 Years]
Ryan Callahan [RW - 5.9 Million x 2 Years]
Dennis Yan [LW - 0.7 Million x 2 Years]
2020 3rd Round Draft Selection

Dallas Stars Trade:
Jason Spezza [C - 7.5 Million x 1 Year]
Valeri Nichushkin [RW - 2.9 Million x 2 Years]

Basically, Tampa needs the cap relief after this season for Point and after next for Vasy. Killorn isn’t a bad contract, but with the amount of large, long-term deals Tampa has, he’s just a surplus, and a team like Dallas could use a guy like him - defensively solid, 30-40 point guy, locked up. As well, Tampa gets lut of Callahan’s deal, which they would want to move by this summer. For the two, they receive two roster players in return, Spezza, whose contract ends at the end of the season, and Nuke, who could use a change of scenery, and could take Callahans spot. The cap works out about evenly for the upcoming season, but Dallas takes on the additional cap to compensate for the fact that they receive the best player in the deal.

Tampa Lineup:
Palat - Stamkos - Kucherov
Johnson - Point - Gourde
Spezza - Cirelli - Miller
Joseph - Paquette - Nichushkin

Dallas Lineup:
Benn - Seguin - Radulov
Killorn - Faksa - Janmark
Cogliano - Dickinson - Callahan
Gurianov - Hintz - Comeau.

26 Jan 2019 14:55:31
That’s a big no from Dallas it took an A level prospect to move Bolland and Killhorn and Callahan are debatably just as bad.

26 Jan 2019 20:28:36
See Dallas is going to take on additional cap than their giving and getting more term with the additional cap. that’s a hard no from Dallas. Neither Callahan or killorn make them more competitive this year or next so why take on the additional money/ term.

27 Jan 2019 05:10:39
It’s not good for either team. Tampa won’t look to move Cally till the summer right or wrong coaches want him for the playoff run. Also nether Cally nor Killorn will waive to Dallas. VB neither Cally or Killorn are as bad as Bolland. Cally because of term (1 more year) and Killorn is a market level deal not a steal but not really an overpay. I feel Yan is unlikely to make an impact at the NHL level he’s got one tool and it’s his shot. Doesn’t really fit in the bottom 6 and might not do enough for top 6. Boom or bust kinda guy, either a star or AHLer not sure it’s enough to move Cally.

16 Jan 2019 04:43:07
Edmonton trades: RNH

Dallas trades: Benn


What do you say?

16 Jan 2019 04:54:49
What do I say? That I hope this is a toll trade.

16 Jan 2019 05:29:22
If this doesn't work out montreal has a benn they could trade you for nuge.

10 Jan 2019 04:23:24
Columbus:
W. Nylander C

Toronto:
S. Jones D

Dallas:
N. Zaitsev D

Toronto:
R. Polak D
4th

Philadelphia:
1st 2019
2nd 2020
3rd 2020
F. Gauthier C

Toronto:
S. Gostisbehere D
W. Simmonds RW

10 Jan 2019 05:51:55
The only one that isn't completely laughable is the zaitsev deal. i don't think clb trades jones for marner to be honest so they are for sure not going to trade him for nylander. that 3rd deal would probably get simmonds but not both guys.

10 Jan 2019 08:23:21
You can't be serious. Seth Jones for nylander straight up. Lol that's not even close.


The other trades are bad too. got to give to get. Jones would require marner or mathews.

10 Jan 2019 11:29:20
If there's a TOR player CBJ trade Jones straight up for, it's Matthews. Even then it's debatable whether either team would do it. Nylander for Jones is just straight comedy.

10 Jan 2019 13:20:39
I’d rather do

Tor: Nylander, Kadri, Kappanen, Gardiner, Liligren, Sandin And 1st 2019

Cbj:Jones

Then Marner or Mathews for Jones.

10 Jan 2019 17:07:06
Nylander for Jones no. Polak for Zaitsev straight up, A big no for the Philly trade.

10 Jan 2019 22:21:09
Other than the Blackhawks trying to rebuild their dynasty teams, whens the last time you RECENTLY heard of a player going back to the same team they were traded from/ left via free agency?

Polak for Zaitsev and a pick? no.

01 Jan 2019 04:58:42
Accidentally pressed sent on the last part but add in
Philly: couturier, provorov, ghost

Carolina: aho, svechnikov, pesce and Slavin

Dallas, Seguin, heiskanen

Ottawa: Chabot white and tkachuk

Again would any of these hypothetical situations be possible for the oilers to rebuild and get so, entung for arguably the best player in the game.

01 Jan 2019 18:00:20
Huge no from Carolina and no from Ottawa. Provorov=Slavin. Aho>Couturier And Svechnikov And Pesce>>>Ghost

Seguin just isn’t a target Ottawa should go after and Chabot is looking like a Karlsson replacement who could very well be the best player in the deal.

30 Dec 2018 16:22:00
Mtl: Juulsen, Gallagher, 2rd2019, Ylonen, Fleury

Dallas: Seguin, Lindell

Dallas gets B+ prospect Ylonen,top 6 30 goal scorer Gallagher,21 year old RHD Noah Juulsen, Cale Fleury who's a solid defensive prospect and stock has rise for him big time since draft. Mtl gets a number #1 and a #4 LHD.

30 Dec 2018 21:52:42
I am so glad that the Dallas CEO went off on Seguin and Benn, completely switches focus to those guys on the trade boards.

30 Dec 2018 21:46:47
Oh no no no.

31 Dec 2018 06:25:27
This might get Seguin, don't think it's enough quality but defs not getting both Seguin and Lindell for that package.

03 Jan 2019 16:52:31
Really all that for Benn and Habs just beat them. Dallas can suffer.

30 Dec 2018 00:29:13
Seguin for Kotkaniemi, Alzner and a 1st?
I might be way off here but Montreal should go after Seguin while Weber & Price are still in their prime.
Montreal gets a #1 center and gives them a real good 1/2 down the middle. They also dump Alzner's contract.
Dallas gets a solid young center, 7 years younger than Seguin. They will also save $ once Seguin's new contract kicks in next year.

30 Dec 2018 01:22:15
No. not going to trade KK. I understand your logic behind the deal, the more I see of KK, the more I like.

30 Dec 2018 02:23:10
Price has been playing like trash if anything Dallas should go after Weber imo they have a better team just need better secondary scoring. They’re a good team that can’t put it together much like Saint Louis And Florida.

07 Jan 2019 16:43:49
No to Seguin. Should have stayed in Boston with Thorton.

07 Jan 2019 16:45:38
Why in would Habs want to deal with Dallas. They are going nowhere still dreaming of the Hull days twenty years later.

11 Dec 2018 13:18:58
Blues: Tarasenko

Dallas: Faksa, Lindell, Honka, Nichuskin rights, 1rd 2019, Radulov @1.5 million retain

11 Dec 2018 14:27:20
Um no. That's awefu l. How bout this

Sundqvuist, Sandford, walman 2022 2nd and toropchenko

For

Seguin

Get 're done boom boom.

11 Dec 2018 15:10:43
The gap between Radulov and Senko is probably a 1st. What even is this?

11 Dec 2018 15:18:56
yeah sorry but radulov is 32 that's 6 years older thank tarasenko. No thanks. This deal is crap. /.

11 Dec 2018 15:50:43
Tha gap between Radulov and Tarasenko is definitely not a 1st lol.

11 Dec 2018 19:08:14
The gap between Radulov and Tarasenko is not all of that, Lindell is a #3d, Honka is still a decent prospect, and Faksa is a solid 3C. Sundqvist sucks in comp to Faksa, if your offering something it would be:

Edmundson, Walman, Barbashev, Bozak, 1st and Schwartz for Seguin.

11 Dec 2018 19:49:51
yeah i am sorry but schwartz, edmondson and a 1st would cover seguin.

11 Dec 2018 20:19:10
Colt, you are valuing Tarasenko, Parayko and Pietrangelo all higher than Seguin who is the best of the bunch.

11 Dec 2018 21:23:31
exactly, so radulov, lindell and the 1st covers senko?

11 Dec 2018 22:17:27
Yeah no.

25 Nov 2018 03:15:13
Oil: Benning

Dallas: Faksa

Saw in article.

25 Nov 2018 03:55:10
Easy no from stars. When a leaf fan on here posted about faksa in a Nylander deal we were told by the all mighty yupp that he was 7th in selke voting and is better defensively at his age than kopitar and Bergeron were lol oilers going to just pluck him out of Texas for a 6th Dman? Of course they will because Chiarelli robs everyone in trades, right? lol 😂.

25 Nov 2018 04:07:16
Wasn't in vbb who was pumping faksa's tires? Idk I could be wrong.

25 Nov 2018 05:01:57
No vbb posted it. Yupp filled is in on his selke pedigree and then vbb was doing his over the top exaggerating of how good he was everytime his name came up mocking yupps love for him. Yupper there was the one saying he wouldn’t be included in a Nylander deal because he’s on the track of Bergeron and kopitar defensively 😂 😂 but now oilers can get him for scraps.

25 Nov 2018 05:07:41
I was the one hyping Faksa. Lol. Vbb was the one telling me how much Faksa sucked.

I would still trade Kadri for Faksa +. We need a good defensive minded player on the team, and Faksa is damn good. A very adequate replacement for Kadri. Plus whatever the pick/ prospect comes with him.

25 Nov 2018 15:24:55
Wtf Shadow, You're now told by your own fans you're wrong. I've never said anything about Faksa before. I don't know anything about him.
But there is an article out there suggesting Stars may be interested in Benning and that adding a 3rd might get Faksa. Just an article written by someone else. Relax bud. It's not McJesus words no need to be so upset. He even said "read in an article"

25 Nov 2018 15:44:57
Your bad memory on a lot of stories is causing you to spin it to how you want to hear it just to try and trash me. Even make posts just to try and trash me. Move along already man, Stop shadowing me so much. Pretty annoying to everyone don't you think? Doesn't it get old being a little child and being triggered by anything I say you have to constantly whine and argue? Move on already man!

25 Nov 2018 16:15:31
@leafsGM, the problem with trading Kadri is in the first 10 games he was playing 3rd line and had 1g 4a. Matthews got hurt, he scores 6 goals in his next 7 games and adds 4 assists since. If you trade Kadri, and something goes wrong with JT or Matthews, that great centre depth we have is gone. Faksa might be really good defensively, but he’s not going to pick up one of those 2 guys offense. If you could get him another way, maybe. But not at the expense of a better Centreman.

25 Nov 2018 18:04:13
I'd keep Kadri.

25 Nov 2018 21:05:29
I would think that faksa being a 3rd line defencsive center would have more value than a bottom pairing depth defenceman. Oilers say no.

26 Nov 2018 04:39:25
@unbiasedjim

No doubt losing Kadri’s offense would be a kick in the shins. Kadri is more like a 2C or even a 1C in most teams. He’s had his best years playing the 2C, and again this year, as you pointed out, playing his best only after Matthews is out and Kadri gets to show what he can do.

On Leafs when he is playing 3C, Kadri is being misused. Babcock didn’t promote Aaltonen last year because he thought he was too offensive for the 3C spot. Trying to roll three scoring lines could work if Nylander was in lineups. Right now Kadri is back to being shutdown guy. Faksa is better suited to a 3C position.

Just my thoughts anyway.

26 Nov 2018 12:36:35
Not addressing that you were wrong here must hopefully mean you're just going to move on now Shadow. I'm looking forward to some civil hockey talk with you in the near future as in sure everyone else would.

26 Nov 2018 14:55:49
I was away for a cpl days, not ignoring it. I was positive it was you. If not, my bad. Regardless, a bottom pairing Dman does not get you a young 3rd line centre with that kind of defensive game.

26 Nov 2018 15:23:01
@LeafsGM I get what you’re saying. I would just rather have Kadri misused as a 3rd centre and be there in case AM or JT get hurt than trade him and be one injury away from turning a contender into a team whose 2nd best centre is Radek Faksa. For this year atleast, when salary cap isn’t an issue, I’d rather guys be over-qualified for their position than not. Down the road if we need cap relief, Kadri at $4.5 mill should be a very easy trade.

20 Nov 2018 00:02:11
Dallas Trades: Gemel Smith [C - 0.720 Million x 1 Year] + Jason Robertson [RW - 0.825 Million x 3 Years] + 2020 2nd Round Draft Selection.
NY Rangers Trade: Mats Zuccarello [LW - 4.500 Million x 1 Year] + Fredrik Claesson [D - 0.700 Million x 1 Year].

If Dallas is serious about competing, they acquire one of the top UFA's on the market to shore up their depth. Robertson is a solid prospect, drafted 39th overall and is more than PPG for three years in the OHL, and a second is always good, so there is good value going towards NY. Gemel Smith is also young enough to become a 3rd/ 4th liner on a revamping NY team. [Would be a deadline move imo]

Dallas [Healthy] Lineup:
Jamie Benn - Tyler Seguin - Alex Radulov
Mats Zuccarello - Jason Spezza - Matias Janmark
Jason Dickinson - Radek Faksa - Valeri Nichuskin
Tyler Pitlick - Martin Hanzal - Blake Comeau

Miro Heiskanen - John Klingberg
Esa Lindell - Stephen Johns
Connor Carrick - Julius Honka.

20 Nov 2018 12:14:45
i'd do it from new york perspective, i'm sure they'd want a 1st in the package but the 2nd isn't bad considering they are getting 2 prospects.

18 Nov 2018 00:52:57
Mtl: Sherback

Isles: Dal Colle

Sherback is actually more nhl proven then Dal Colle but neither player has really break threw at mhl leve yet. Need change of scenery

18 Nov 2018 02:37:38
Rather keep Sherbac, I don't think DalColle is ever going to pan out. future for him is KHL. might be Sherbac as well, I think there is a little more hope for him still .

18 Nov 2018 23:48:52
Couple good candidates in need of a change of scenery for sure. Neither one is doing much for their current team, and it would be in both teams best interest to consider moving these guys while they can still get a return. DalColle looking pretty good in AHL this year. Maybe he can bring his A-game to Montreal?

19 Nov 2018 15:28:00
What has sherbak done to warrant being anything better than a low B prospect. He was drafted in 2014 the kids a career 4th liner at this point.

19 Nov 2018 17:43:37
He hasn't done anything Mclarty, I think DalColle hasn't done anything either. I jus think if one of those 2 can still get it together, its Sherbac . But I'm not really expecting it at this point.

10 Nov 2018 17:41:01
Mtl:Suzuki,Julsen,2rd 2019 and Fleury

Dallas:Heiskanen,Spezza(Cap dump),Faska

Does Dallas considers mtl needs a star defensemen

10 Nov 2018 18:23:09
No. Dallas will not move heiskanen. That was why Karlsson wasn’t traded to Dallas, stars refused to include heiskanen. So if a team whose best players (Benn, Seguin, Radulov, Bishop) are in their late 20’s and early 30’s wouldn’t include him for a 28 year old superstar that could help them win a cup now, they won’t do it for a collection of lesser valued futures. And Faksa didn’t live up to his offensive hype but has been groomed into a very good 2 way Centre, a similar path to Kadri. He has real good value to a team that’s looking to compete for a cup too.

10 Nov 2018 20:17:28
I don't think Dallas would move Miro Boom. I think he is just what they've been wanting for a while now. Both Him and Klinberg I think are staying in Dallas for a while now IMO.

03 Nov 2018 04:05:18
Leafs trade Brown, Gardiner, 1st
Florida trades Dadonov, Pysyk

Leafs trade Nylander, Leivo
Dallas trades Dickinson, Lindell, Spezza, 1st

Marleau/ Matthews/ Kapanen
Hyman/ Tavares/ Marner
Dickinson/ Kadri/ Dadonov
Lindholm/ Spezza/ (Ennis)
*Gauthier

Reilly/ Pysyk
Lindell/ Zaitsev
Dermott/ Hainsey
(Sandin/ Liljegren)
(Rasanen)

03 Nov 2018 22:38:19
A big no from Florida.

03 Nov 2018 03:04:34
Philly: Simmonds

Stars:Honka

1 for 1?

Honka still had enough upside imo to garner Simonds but I wanna see if u guys think Simmonds could get more

03 Nov 2018 03:32:51
Simmonds is worth more than just Honka. Dallas only does this if they are in playoff picture come deadline. Traditionally a rental costs a pick + prospect. Stars need to add at least a 1st.

03 Nov 2018 15:20:57
Philly is loaded with D prospects.

 
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