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20 Aug 2019 11:17:39
#1
Calgary Flames - T.J Brodie, Ty Parsons, Dillon Dube & 1st-Round Draft Pick

New Jersey Devils - Taylor Hall

(Devils continue their strong rebuild and acquire a top 4 defencemen, a solid former memorial cup champion goalie prospect, a solid skilled center & first round draft pick)

#2
Calgary Flames - Mikael Backlund

Anaheim Ducks - Rickard Rakell

(Ducks acquire a good second line center who could be very useful on their pk, and flames acquire a lw who could play rw due to being right handed, similar in point totals)

#3
Calgary Flames - Michael Frolik

Columbus Blue Jackets - 2nd-Round Draft Pick

(Jackets acquire a top 6 rw who would be a nice fit on the pk and can give them more speed, flames shed cap)


The losing Frolik, Brodie would give them the cap space to resign Hall



Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Rickard Rakell

Taylor Hall - Elias Lindholm - Matthew Tkachuk

Milan Lucic - Sam Bennett - Mark Jankowski

Andrew Mangiapane - Derek Ryan - Austin Czarnik


Mark Giordano - Rasmus Andersson

Noah Hanifin - Travis Hamonic

Oliver Kylington - Rinat Valiev

20 Aug 2019 13:36:26
Taylor Hall is going to market. That's a lot to give up, especially for a guy on an expiring deal.

20 Aug 2019 13:40:34
No from Anaheim. Rakell is one of their best players and Backlund fits perfectly with calgary.

20 Aug 2019 13:50:50
Easy no's for all teams not named Calgary.

20 Aug 2019 23:10:08
Taylor Hall will not be getting traded he just bought a home in New Jersey a couple days ago. Also terrible offer for Rakel.

18 Aug 2019 22:35:04
Columbus:
M. Marner RW
M. Marincin D
3rd 2020

Toronto:
P.L. Dubois LW
Z. Werenski D
1st 2020
2nd 2020

19 Aug 2019 04:29:15
Marner doesn’t get Dubois, Werenski AND a first LOL, like WHAT?!

19 Aug 2019 08:36:49
Incredibly bad for CBJ. Take the picks out and CBJ still easily declines.
Try Dubois OR Werenski.

19 Aug 2019 11:20:08
CLB laughs.

19 Aug 2019 12:44:24
Ok these marner trades are getting very annoying

19 Aug 2019 19:07:07
I've never seen anything like this.
Columbus gives up 90% of their most valuable pieces in exchange for a player that isn't even signed.

11 Aug 2019 07:50:42
Vancouver
Eriksson/Sutter/Stecher
for
Columbus
Dubinsky/Anderson

Eriksson 1yr extra cap dump cancels out
Dubinsky 2yrs left for a washed up player

Sutter for C depth
Stecher for bottom pair RHD.

Anderson & cap space in a perfect world be nice. Not likely CBJ wants to move him but kick some tires anyways.

11 Aug 2019 10:30:28
Andersson = Boeser.

11 Aug 2019 12:40:38
In what world does Anderson equal beoser that crazy talk.

11 Aug 2019 13:59:09
If Anderson=Boeser, Anderson = Marner.

11 Aug 2019 15:35:49
Anderson is not equal to Boeser, and Boeser is not equal to Marner.

11 Aug 2019 21:04:23
Lmao. Boeser has more value than Anderson.
And Josh Anderson is one of my favorite third liners in the league. Really like him and Boone Jenner together as a third line. But I still know Boeser has more value than Anderson. Lol.

12 Aug 2019 09:55:01
Yeah, I love Boeser, but he’s not equal to Marner. But Andersson is not equal to Bowser either.

12 Aug 2019 09:57:45
Well Columbus fans said they would trade Andersson for Eichel in a 1 for 1 swap on HFBoards. He’s the best in the NHL for what he does and on a team like the leafs who lacks a physical edge I’d take Andersson over Boeser 1000/10 times.

12 Aug 2019 10:10:26
at this point does anyone really care a what you think vb?

12 Aug 2019 13:48:50
All I can say is wow at Vbb's comments, just in awe about how often this guy gets smashed drunk and then visits this website.

12 Aug 2019 16:38:49
What i think is irrelevant i'm just saying facts. Fact is Columbus wouldn't trade Andersson for Boeser nor vise versa but i'm sure most leaf fans would take Andersson over Boeser.

12 Aug 2019 18:17:37
I can’t even read your crap anymore vbb’s. You always try to educate people on this site so here’s one for you. Look up the word “fact” and come back and let us know if this is your “opinion” or a “fact”. You show your age more every day. The “fact” is you have no clue what any GM would do.

12 Aug 2019 19:22:49
By VB's logic, Anderson=Marner.

12 Aug 2019 20:13:18
Lmfao. That is so far from a fact Dumbas. You just said that’s some random fans on a boards opinion - not fact.
Boeser has a ton more value than Anderson lmao. You just make yourself look bad day in day out. It’s awesome.

13 Aug 2019 02:28:27
Everything I say is a fact.

13 Aug 2019 02:56:37
Now I understand the whole vb is clueless thing. Did I really just read that?

13 Aug 2019 20:28:38
No, no it’s not. It’s very far from fact. It’s your clueless homer biased opinion. “Marner is the best singer since Howe”. Lmfao 😂😂😂😂. One of the worst opinions I’ve ever heard too.

13 Aug 2019 20:52:21
A fact is 1 + 1 is 2. An opinion is when you take bias and put one player with more value. It's clear if its lop sided but not when you listen to regular people say opinions on a website. can't just say your teams player is better. An opinion that andersson has more value is ludercris. That's an opinion which fine you have, just can't call it fact.

05 Aug 2019 09:44:18
Oilers: Puljujärvi

Columbus: Bemström


Columbus gets a player that would be their top prospect


Oilers gets a RW to play with drai and mcdavid

Last year bemström played with player of the year/shl's best center , he needs elite passer to be good and i can't see that happen in columbus

05 Aug 2019 19:18:47
First, Benetton is listed as a centre.
Second, he won’t play on the top line. Even the second line is a stretch. He isn’t PPG in the Swedish Elite League so there’s no reason to rush him.

06 Aug 2019 05:53:09
Bemström is not center?! he played center 4 games last 2 year bc the center was hyrt

I watched every Djurgården game last year and the kid is elite, his only weakness was that when he played with lower tier centers he didn't score, he need players that thinks 2-3 steps ahead like him.

06 Aug 2019 09:34:58
Btw do you think a player needs to be a ppg in shl to make it in nhl?! Most goals in shl as s 19 year is sick, there some great players in shl.

27 Jul 2019 00:54:46
To Flames :
Oliver Bjorkstrand

To Jackets :
Michael Frolik
2nd-Round Draft Pick

Basic trade but i like Bjorky.


Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm

Tkachuk - Backlund - Bjorkstrand

Lucic - Jankowski - Bennett

Mangiapane - Ryan - Czarnik


Giordano - Brodie

Hanifin - Hamonic

Valimaki - Andersson

28 Jul 2019 02:48:25
Frolic not worth it. Columbus can’t be that dumb.

24 Jul 2019 03:10:58
NYR: Kevin Shattenkirk (50%) + Vlad Namestnikov + 2021 3rd

for

CLB: Alexander Wennberg.

Rangers clear cap, but take on an under performing player with a high cap to clear room and give him a shot at 2C

CLB: Gets a top 9 and a top 4 dman. CLB gives up one expensive asset to be a little more competitive.

25 Jul 2019 02:07:13
Namestnikov is a downgrade to Wennberg, and Shattenkirk sucks, even at 50% off. Columbus says no.

22 Jul 2019 17:24:48
To EDM - Cam Atkinson

To CLB - Jesse Puljujarvi, Kris Russell, 1st-Round Draft Pick & Tyler Benson



Leon Draisaitl - Connor McDavid - Cam Atkinson

Alex Chiasson - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - James Neal

Joakim Nygard - Markus Granlund - Jujhar Khaira

Tomas Jurco - Gaetan Haas - Sam Gagner


Oscar Klefbom - Adam Larsson

Darnell Nurse - Evan Bouchard

Ethan Bear - Matt Benning

22 Jul 2019 02:35:36
Toronto:Reilly, Marner,Lilijegreen

Clb:Jones,Atkinson,Murray

22 Jul 2019 15:57:05
Reilly >/ = Jones
Marner >>> Atkinson
Murray > Liljegren

The difference between Murray and Liljegren isn’t Marner.

22 Jul 2019 17:52:23
jones is better then reilly click believable if u agree.

22 Jul 2019 18:50:07
Maybe people should click “agree” if they agree smart person.

22 Jul 2019 20:30:34
Jones > Rielly (not by much)
Marner > > > Atkinson
Murray > Liljegren

21 Jul 2019 23:42:26
Clb:Jones,Anderson

Toronto:Marner,Lilijegreen,Kapanen,2rd2019

22 Jul 2019 01:28:25
I’d do that from a leafs POV.

22 Jul 2019 02:15:51
Leafs pass, that’s too much too give up for an elite defenceman and a middle 6 winger.

Marner>Jones

Marner is a Franchise player
Jones is Elite player

If Jones is Franchise, then Reilly is a Generational talent

Now do you see why Jones is overrated?

22 Jul 2019 03:21:31
Leafs would be better off trading Mathews . already have a franchise Center in Tavares. keep the franchise winger.
They have a stud Dman in Reilly . a decent, not a total star in Anderson. kinda has a similar style to Blackhawks. they did all right. so. ditch Mathews, get 1 more star Dman. maybe be better than Hawks mini dynasty. however, if you keep Mathews over Marner. will never win a cup.

22 Jul 2019 08:23:41
Marner > Jones? On what planet are you living?
Even if you put contracts aside, I'd already take Jones, a top 5 NHL D imo, over Marner. Now factor in that Jones' AAV will probably be less than half of Marner's for the next 3 years and this isn't even close anymore.

22 Jul 2019 16:25:40
Sosa, you comparing leaf to blackhawks? Leafs haven't won a a cup yet and are max cap. If you mean to many expensive players, ya, they like the hawks now as in they going to have to shed contracts in next couple years cause 4 guys take over half the cap. This is their only year they have a shot. Then its dismantle time.

22 Jul 2019 17:26:28
Why is this Toronto’s only year shoots? They have 2 years before Andersen needs a contract and 3 years before Reilly needs a new contract. The core is locked up for years to come, if Marner signs. Their defense will be getting some type of shake up next year but it’s never been very good anyways.

22 Jul 2019 19:28:57
Shoots. I meant that they have similarities. and, yes I'm well aware they have not won a cup.
They have the potential to be like the Hawks is what ai meant. but I believe trading Mathews to bolster the roster is beneficial.

21 Jul 2019 18:44:38
Toronto:Marner,Lilijegreen,Kapanen

Clb:Jones

21 Jul 2019 20:09:05
Leafs add Matthews.

21 Jul 2019 20:09:32
Ok I’m going to ask you something. Would you trade Reilly for Marner. Reilly had 20 goals and 72 points last year, while playing with Hainsey, and while playing on one of the leafs used power plays in the league?

Jones is soooo overrated. He is a good hockey player, but seriously, he’s not worth Marner. Everybody acts like he is this franchise defenceman when in reality he has only hit 50 points once in his career.

This trade proposal is terrible, Columbus needs to add not Toronto.

21 Jul 2019 20:21:50
Lol themostleaf that’s one of the most bias things I’ve read in a while. Jones is one of the best Defense man in the league yet to hit his prime and on a great contract. Right shot top pairing D don’t grow on trees.

21 Jul 2019 20:41:01
“Themostleaf33”
I somehow already know how every single one of your replies is going to sound like lmao.
Seth Jones IS a franchise defenceman. Seriously, you just used POINTS as evidence for a DEFENCE (! ) man.
With that being said, yeah leafs overpay lol.

21 Jul 2019 20:46:56
Sorry but you sir are wrong. #1rhd young that score 50pts are worth more than 90pt wingers who don't crack 30 goals.

21 Jul 2019 20:56:20
I’d do Marner straight up for Jones nothing more nothing less. Prime Patrick Kane for For Drew Doughty equivalent.

21 Jul 2019 22:07:09
It's more like.

Columbus Trades
Atkinson
SJones
1st Round Pick 2020

Toronto Trades
Marner
3rd Round Pick 2020 (Ottawa's Pick)

Marner is the best Player in any Columbus Trade Proposal not Seth Jones.

21 Jul 2019 22:11:15
I personally would never make that trade, you can get something much better for Marner
For example, you could probably get Debrincat+Gustafson from Chicago for Marner. The only thing stopping it is that Chicago is in more cap trouble right now then Toronto is. No way they will be able to re-sign Gustafson with all the bad contracts on their team and with the Debrincat+ Strome extensions coming up.

21 Jul 2019 22:21:26
Pinball I think that might be going to far, but Columbus does add for sure. The way I see it, I would be fine with:

Marner+Bracco
For
Jones+Anderson

Columbus gets two solid play making young wingers while Toronto upgrades their defence and sort of replaces Marner and fixes cap problems.

21 Jul 2019 22:16:34
Marner is really good, but I would not trade Jones for him one for one. Maybe I’m just really big on Seth Jones but d-men usually take a few extra years to hit their prime and he’s already one of the best all around defencemen in the league and he’s on a sweetheart of a contract for another 3 years.

21 Jul 2019 23:46:48
The contract Jones is currently on compared to the potential new deal of marner being close to twice as much gives Jones the edge in value.

22 Jul 2019 01:57:26
Morgan Reilly is better then Seth Jones. If Seth Jones is a Franchise defence man, the Morgan Reilly is a generational talent.

Let’s say Reilly is on a different team. Who wins in a trade that is 1 for 1 Marner for Reilly? Honestly, I would say the leafs.

Let the arguing begin.

22 Jul 2019 02:21:14
Unsportsmanlike what team do you cheer for I was under the impression you were a leafs fan.

22 Jul 2019 03:14:14
Should be Mathews plus Lillegren for Jones. that's a fair trade.

22 Jul 2019 09:45:05
I think Jones is better all around then reily.

22 Jul 2019 09:51:46
Marner might be the most overrated player on this site.

22 Jul 2019 13:58:15
I think Marner is about as good a winger as Rielly is a dman. But dmen and centers are more valuable than wingers. So hypothetically I would not trade Rielly for Marner (who like Jones is making roughly half as much as Marner is about to be) .

22 Jul 2019 15:54:26
Yea Mantha. A guy who just got 94 points, plays crucial minutes and is very good defensively so much so that he is used on the PK is overrated.

22 Jul 2019 16:33:50
Themostleaf is a perfect name for a guy that compares defenseman solely based on points. I'd sound pretty dumb if I said kris Russell is the best defenseman cause he leads the league in blocked shots every year.

22 Jul 2019 17:43:52
A long time ago (probably before most of y’all were born) my dad had season tickets to the Hartford Whalers. Rooted for the Canes after they moved but my attachment to them has sorta faded over the years.

Maybe someday the NHL will return to CT, but I’m not counting on it. In the meantime I’m pretty interested in what Ron Francis can do with Seattle (still have his whale tail Jersey) . I follow the Habs/ Leafs/ Rangers pretty closely but that’s mostly because they dominate the headlines.

22 Jul 2019 16:47:02
What, dude that’s totally different. when a defence man can score 20 goals, let alone get more assists then he did points a year ago, it gets noticed among GM’s. It’s called a breakout season, and so far Jones hasn’t really had one.

Also Reilly was +19 last year while Jones was -1, so no it’s not just about points.

The only reason Jones is considered to be better is because Reilly’s career numbers aren’t as good. However, now that Reilly is playing for a good team for a change, his numbers are skyrocketing.

Once Columbus misses the playoffs next year, you will all see how Jones is not the defenceman you all think he is. His +/ - will go down, he won’t get as many points, and is advanced stats will start to look bad.

Let me also remind you that Reilly has never had a proper top 4 partner, while Jones has gotten to play with Werenski for 2 straight years.

22 Jul 2019 17:50:03
Reilly is good but when you only mentioned points. Reilly was 5th in Norris voting and jones was 9th so just fair to say they're both top 10 defensemen in the league. One isn't way better than the other. Jones doesn't get to play with the firepower reilly does.

22 Jul 2019 19:48:28
Yea because Panarin, Atkinson, Dubois and Werenski are all bums to name a few. Bad argument McGee. Jones is most definitely a very good dman if not elite. I would say on par with Reilly.

20 Jul 2019 23:43:14
Toronto trades: Marner
Columbus trades: Werenski, Anderson

21 Jul 2019 06:07:39
Werenski.

21 Jul 2019 07:08:39
Werenski for Marner swap would be the only way columbus considers this. You don't trade 22 year old top pairing defencemen

21 Jul 2019 13:30:13
Marner for Jones or no deal to be made don’t need a LHD he’d be on the 3rd pairing.

21 Jul 2019 16:34:04
Werenski>Marner, bcuz defensemen>forward.

21 Jul 2019 18:49:20
Well leafs don't need lh d it werenski would play ahead of muzzin so he would be second pair and I would have to believe jones is as close to untouchable as you can get leafs would have to add to marner to get jones.

21 Jul 2019 18:17:11
Muzzin plays a safer style which the leafs lack so he’d play higher.

21 Jul 2019 20:12:17
3rd pairing lmao
VB being VB.

21 Jul 2019 20:59:16
Well clearly Rielly is better then Werenski. Rielly will probably play with Ceci. Muzzin will play with Barrie because Muzzin plays a safe physical style. Werenski with Barrie would be a Defensive zone disaster.

TheTriplets being theTriplets.

14 Jul 2019 10:42:53
I have trades i created. What do you think?

#1

Edmonton Oilers acquire RW Melker Karlsson from the San Jose Sharks in exchange for RD Matt Benning.

Melker Karlsson ( 2M @ 1YR )

Matt Benning ( 1.9M @ 1YR )

#2

Edmonton Oilers acquire RD David Savard & RW Oliver Bjorkstrand from the Columbus Blue Jackets in exchange for RW Jesse Puljujärvi, LD Kris Russell & 2020 First Round Draft Pick.

Oliver Bjorkstrand ( 2.5M @ 2YR )
David Savard ( 4.25M @ 2YR )

Kris Russell ( 4M @ 2YR )
Jesse Puljujärvi ( RFA )

#3

Edmonton Oilers acquire RW Loui Eriksson from the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for LW Milan Lucic & 2020 Third Round Draft Pick.

Loui Eriksson ( 6M @ 3YR )

Milan Lucic ( 6M @ 4YR )


Edmonton Oilers Projected Lines :


Leon Draisaitl - Connor McDavid - Oliver Bjorkstrand

Alex Chiasson - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Loui Eriksson

Jujhar Khaira - Markus Granlund - Melker Karlsson

Joakim Nygard - Gaetan Haas - Sam Gagner


Oscar Klefbom - Adam Larsson

Darnell Nurse - David Savard

Ethan Bear - Evan Bouchard

14 Jul 2019 14:34:40
They’d be adding more then a 3rd it’d be more likely that’d they’re both traded at 50% retained and both bought out immediately with Edmonton obviously adding a good piece like Puljujarvi or maybe a protected 1st.

14 Jul 2019 17:05:14
Eriksson already said no to a oilers trade at the deadline.

14 Jul 2019 21:28:55
It’s going to take A LOT more than a third to swap Lucic for Eriksson. First, Lucic has an extra year. Secondly, and the most important thing is due to contracts, because of Lucic’s contract, we would have to protect him in the expansion draft whereas with Eriksson we don’t need to do that, we can leave him exposed and protect someone actually important.

Benning has really been planning ahead for the expansion draft making sure every player he gets (including Myers and elder) don’t have to be protected in the e-draft.

So for that reason alone, Eriksson>>>Lucic.

13 Jul 2019 13:19:53
Are any of these good?

To CGY - Andreas Athanasiou
To DET - Oliver Kylington, Mark Jankowski, Second Round Draft Pick & Fifth Round Draft Pick

To CGY - Third Round Draft Pick
To MTL - Michael Frolik

To CGY - Nikolaj Ehlers
To WPG - Mikael Backlund

To CGY - Seventh Round Draft Pick
To OTT - James Neal, First Round Draft Pick & Glenn Gawdin

To CGY - Jesper Fast
To NYR - Austin Czarnik

To CGY - Alexander Wennberg
To CLB - T.J Brodie

To CGY - Matthew Nieto
To COL - Fourth Round Draft Pick



Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Elias Lindholm

Nikolaj Ehlers - Andreas Athanasiou - Matthew Tkachuk

Sam Bennett - Alexander Wennberg - Jesper Fast

Andrew Mangiapane - Derek Ryan - Matthew Nieto


Mark Giordano - Rasmus Andersson

Noah Hanifin - Travis Hamonic

Juuso Valimaki - Rinat Valiev

13 Jul 2019 14:02:41
HUGE nod from Detroit, Winnipeg and Calgary on the Columbus deal.

13 Jul 2019 16:31:21
The Jets would not make that trade.

13 Jul 2019 16:55:58
I’d bet the jets would Islandjet. It’s safe to say you and biasjoe don’t really know what Chevy would do. I think Backlund doesn’t get enough credit on this site.

13 Jul 2019 17:40:30
Only extremely biased posters would think the Calgary-Jets trade is good for the Jets. No chance the Jets trade a 23 year old first line winger for a 30 year old 3C. Lol.

13 Jul 2019 22:20:39
I thought Backlund was younger. Chevy still might consider, lol.

14 Jul 2019 04:58:04
Backlund is a solid number 2 center, can kill penalties, win faceoffs, good backcheck. I think you underrate backlund a bit. I agree @Leafs17

11 Jul 2019 20:50:09
Mtl:Gallagher,Mete,Brooks

Col:Byram

11 Jul 2019 21:49:28
As much as I like Byram. , the kid literally grew up jus down the street from my parents. I would still rather keep the Montreal package.

11 Jul 2019 23:15:37
That package doesn’t get you Byram lol.

11 Jul 2019 23:32:58
Seems like a lot for an unknown prospect.

11 Jul 2019 23:50:45
As biased as it sounds and is for that matter I'm so interested in continuing to watch the development of josh brook that it would hurt me to trade him straight up for Bryam. Now before anyone pounces on me I also know the avs wouldn't consider either.

12 Jul 2019 02:49:07
Ya, Habby, I think Brook is going to be a really good Dman. time will tell. Byram also could and I think will he a really good Dman. or he could be Griffin Reinhart? As of right now, Gallagher is a really good player in the league, Mete is a regular who is also really young, so, I can see Brook and Mete being part of Habs top 4 for years to come .

12 Jul 2019 04:13:07
No doubt Sosa I think Bryam is going to be a stud and I'd like to have in the habs organization just not for this package.

06 Jul 2019 03:35:46
It's RFA season

Marner to Colorado 11.5 M

Tkachuk St Louis 9M

Point Columbus 11 M

Provorov Edm 4M

Laine Van 7M

Rantenen ...9M ..matched by Colorado

06 Jul 2019 04:28:29
I'd think every team matches except point and tkachuk.

06 Jul 2019 04:41:54
LOL at Provonov at 4 million he’ll probably get around Aho’s contract. Same with Laine.

06 Jul 2019 05:30:53
Definitely agree with vbb on that. Philly would easily match.

06 Jul 2019 06:12:17
Yeah the provorov deal is the easiest of all to match.

06 Jul 2019 07:10:06
Conroy said tkachuk isn't signing any offer sheets so that's good

06 Jul 2019 07:40:52
Tampa would probably match point at 11 tbh, and if not that’s probably 4 lottery picks. I don’t seem him signing an offer sheet for what it’s worth, he already turned down Montreal.

06 Jul 2019 09:34:18
Point turned down an Offer Sheet from MTL, why would he sign one with CBJ now?
Also Provorov going to get more, although VB saying he'll get Aho money is fairly insane, too.

06 Jul 2019 11:29:25
Maybe Montreal only offered 5 million to point? It’s pretty stupid to infer that because he declined 1 offer he wouldn’t sign another. Montreal probably low balled him.

06 Jul 2019 14:17:40
No point came out and said MTL offered a good contract but I don’t want to leave Tampa.

06 Jul 2019 16:08:28
VB at worst Montreal offered Point what they gave Aho. It wouldn’t make sense for them to go lower, when they realized they weren’t going to get Point they pivoted to Aho.

06 Jul 2019 17:21:35
@jbs So now that you can see the difference of how two players acted when approached with an offer sheet could you now admit that aho was at least slightly intrigued by playing in Montreal lol.

07 Jul 2019 02:21:32
Shoots
Every team could match but Toronto. they don't have the cap space to match 11M.

07 Jul 2019 03:54:29
Never said he wasn’t intrigued, but the deal he accepted screamed he was just trying to hurry it up with Carolina and says nothing about him trying to get out of Carolina by any means possible. Not to mention maybe Point would have accepted the same deal knowing Tampa would accept, Montreal got the feeling they wouldn’t get Point maybe Point would only accept something he knew Tampa would match while Montreal was really banking on that front loaded bonus structure with Carolina.

07 Jul 2019 06:31:24
IVe actually been hearing over the last few days that Tom dundon told some player agents from the team that he wouldn't be giving out any signing bonus on contracts so there is that too. I haven't really took the time to verify this but I have read or heard about it a few times since the offer sheet. maybe it's just another rumour but it is picking up a little steam In the ole mill.

07 Jul 2019 08:04:49
Thanks, jbs delivering the basic logic VB apparently wasn't able to grasp. So much for "stupid", hihi.

08 Jul 2019 18:06:14
Toronto has the ability to match virtually any offer sheet put towards Marner. If there was even the slightest doubt about Toronto’s financial position, Marner would have been OS’d already.

08 Jul 2019 18:16:25
This debate is pointless. Edmonton needs Draisaitl a lot more than they need Marner.

01 Jul 2019 22:26:55
Columbus:
M. Marner RW
N. Kadri C

Toronto:
B. Jenner C
P.L. Dubois LW
S. Jones D

01 Jul 2019 22:38:37
That's a pretty easy no for CBJ.

01 Jul 2019 23:12:43
Take out Dubois and it’s not bad if Toronto is extremely lucky maybe take out Jenner instead.

02 Jul 2019 03:38:01
J9nes is worth more than marner way more. Lol.

23 Jun 2019 22:18:08
In my last post I showed how the leafs could potentially fit Marner in and improve their defence. But if the leafs decide to let Marner go this is what I'd like to see.

Obviously Marner is extremely valuable and is a top 5 U23 player in the game. 94 points as a 22 year old. Kucherov didn't come close to that at his 22 year old season there is no reason to believe by the time he's 25 he won't be as good as Kucherov I personally believe he'll be better and I'm sure I'm not the only one. It'll take a lot to pry him away.

Teams I'd match an offer sheet that have the cap space are- New Jersey, Florida, Montreal, Islanders And Colorado

Teams I'd take the compensation of 4 1st round picks from- Arizona, Columbus, Detroit and Ottawa

A trade I'd personally take

Toronto- Mitch Marner And Nikita Zaitsev

New York- Noah Dobson, Joshua Ho Sang, Ryan Pulock and 1st 2020

This trade drastically improves the leafs defence and cap situation while New York gets a star who will have multiple 100 point seasons.

24 Jun 2019 00:05:11
Vbbb, do you really like Ho Sang that much, that you would want him as part of a deal for Marner?

If the Islanders know you’re trading Marner because you can’t afford him, I doubt you’d get all 4 of those pieces. I think the max you would get is 2 of the 4. Considering the Islanders also have to pay Marner 11 million. You would also need to keep Zaitsev as I don’t think the Islanders would take on that contract knowing what they’ll have to pay Marner.

If you want to say the Islanders are dealing in good faith and just really want Marner, I think the max you would get is 3 of the 4 pieces. I just don’t see the Islanders giving up both Pullock and Dobson in the same deal and you would need to still keep Zaitsev.

24 Jun 2019 01:31:59
I'd say no from Isles.

24 Jun 2019 02:32:01
Of the team's you would let Marner sign an offersheet with, I don't think any of them will submit one because they will be lottery picks ( Columbus is the only one who might take that risk)

Also, Marner has to sign the offersheet to go to those teams. He may want nothing to do with Sens, Jackets, Coyotes or Wings.

In terms of that trade, I don't think Isles do it because Defense is still an area they need depth on.

24 Jun 2019 02:34:41
On a Red Wings note, we won't be sending an offer sheet for Marner.

I don't expect us to send an offer sheet at all.

However if we do, we will be targetting Trouba or Point. We need C and D more than a winger.

24 Jun 2019 02:44:56
I wouldn't trade Marner. Would trade Nylander/Matthews before Marner

24 Jun 2019 06:32:49
Alright, I'll sit here and wait for Marner to get 130+ pts by age 25. You're insane, VB. THe age 22 comparison is bs and several people already explained this to you on this website - if you'd listen, you'd know.

24 Jun 2019 13:03:49
Kucherov is amazing but he’s better imo I think he’ll be known as top 3 player in the game when he’s 25 I’m not sure why you don’t see that he’s more dynamic then Mathews it’s really not a controversial statement. Some debut to it I guess but it’s obtainable for him if he dosent score 130 by 3 years into the NHL I’ll apologize.

Also for me Dobson would be the sticking point for me in this trade I’d demand him. I think this trade makes the Islanders a better team.

Also Datsyuk_13 that’s the point if one of those teams are stupid enough to send an offer sheet I would not match.

24 Jun 2019 14:31:06
Marner is a star, no denying that. He also played a minute and a half a game more than Kucherov during their respective age 22 seasons, 5 extra shifts a game, and had a superstar on his line in Tavares while Kucherov had Johnson and Palat. Could Marner be better than Kucherov? Maybe but in my opinion its far from the guarantee you think it is. I don't know how realistic it is to expect someone to get more than the 1.56 ppg Kucherov did this year. They are on a very similar development path but i'm not sure Marner is going to see the same development here on out without really having any extra opportunity to move in to, he's already playing 20 min a game, with PP time and has a superstar center. Not saying he will plateu, but at the same age Kucherov still had room to improve in TOI, linemates, and PP time and took advantage of it.

24 Jun 2019 15:39:51
Also, looks like Kucherov could be 1.5-2M less in cap space which means a lot these days.

24 Jun 2019 15:41:21
Very good points made by jbs32.
Also I 100% agree on Marner being better than Matthews. That's why the AM contract is so bad for TOR. That's the contract Marner should've gotten, if anyone.
"You think he (Marner) will be known as a top 3 player by the age of 25?" Well guess what, Kucherov IS known as a top 3 player at age 25.
We'll see whether that will be the case with Marner, personally, I doubt it. Rather top 20, which is still elite, obv, no one is denying that.

24 Jun 2019 15:52:56
You can't compare marner to kuch they style of play is completely different.

24 Jun 2019 16:29:56
valid points not a lot can be argued aside from Natural growth and Maturity of Marner. Also Marner is also a better defensive player then Kucherov I don’t think I’ve seen Kucherov on the PK before where as Marner is the best PKer on the leafs aside from Hyman. Also the leafs PP this year was trash they have the Talent for a top 3 PP and if the PP were better he could’ve easily hit the 110 mark for points this Season 16 more PP points aren’t unrealistic imo.

Also not comparing their styles just overall impact in hockey Marner is more comparable to Patrick Kane.

24 Jun 2019 16:35:45
Gotta be honest you guys comparing Matthews and his contract to Marner are really doing a disservice to your perceived hockey IQ. Matthews at centre is far more difficult and a far more important position than a winger, and the pay should reflect that. You’re comparing apples to oranges. Might as well compare Marner’s upcoming contract to Freddy Andersen’s as it makes about as much sense.

23 Jun 2019 01:20:15
Col: Barrie, jost
Tor: johnsson, kadri, 2020 2nd round pick & 3rd

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Edm: Nuge , yamamotto, Puljujärvi
Min: spurgeon, zucker


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Van: joulevi
Tor: rights to johnsson

23 Jun 2019 22:28:26
Joulevi is worth way more then that.

23 Jun 2019 23:00:58
Joulevi is not worth way more the that. Joulevi is only a year younger and can’t even crack the Canucks blue line where as Johnsson is a top 6 forward currently playing 1st line on the leafs. Joulevi for Puljujarvi could be a good swap maybe Canucks add a sweetener.

24 Jun 2019 06:01:45
Juolevi IS worth way more then that. It’s not that he hasn’t been good enough to crack the lineup, it’s that he keeps getting injured before he has the chance to try. I’m fact, he had an incredible start to last season and was looking like a sure thing to crack the Canucks roster before injury struck.

If you don’t know anything about the player (in this case Juolevi) then don’t include them in your proposals because it makes you look clueless. Well more so then you already do.

Do research before you want to throw someone into your rubbishty proposal and then rubbish talk them because you were told your idea sucked.

21 Jun 2019 21:00:34
Toronto and Colorado talking trade.

COL: Kadri and Brown

TOR: Barrie and Jost

Then Toronto and Vancouver

VAN: Zaitsev and Sparks

TOR: Tanev

21 Jun 2019 21:14:06
No on both of those. Toronto wins by a land slide.
However, Kadri would look good in Colorado.

21 Jun 2019 21:19:57
Kadri for Barrie could make sense but I think Toronto would have to add a fair amount. But I guess contracts might make it closer. Colorado can also draft there 2C at 4 and have him in a season or two.

21 Jun 2019 23:31:59
Vancouver gets ROBBED lmao.

21 Jun 2019 23:47:26
I’d be upset if the Leafs traded Kadri for Barrie just because of his contract.

21 Jun 2019 06:59:27
Van: baertshi
Edm: Puljujarvi

Van: 10th overall, Virtanen, lind
Col: Barrie
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Pens: letang, rust
Edm: nugent hopkins, bear, Puljujarvi

21 Jun 2019 17:01:22
if pens pulled off that trade they'd have insane center depth, and i'd be interested to see what pul would do with crosby or malkin.

21 Jun 2019 20:08:07
No from Van on both. Beartschi is a proven 2nd line guy who’s having some bad injury luck, he’s got a helluva lot more value than Pulj who’s threatening to return to Europe unless he gets trades, who says he doesn’t do that again if it doesn’t work out with his next team as well? Nah, Pulj is a headache I want to avoid.

And the second one is a no too. Any package involving the 10th and Virtanen (who finally started showing some real growth last year) with be for a younger defensemen like Risto or Ghost.

21 Jun 2019 20:33:26
Baertchi the guy that has never played more than 69 games and 35 points has a helluva lot more value than Puljujarvi? No thanks from Edmonton. Puljujarvi to Europe gives Edmonton a second chance at properly developing him.

 
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