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12 Dec 2018 15:11:25
Jeff Petry + Charles Hudon + Columbus 2nd(2019) for Kevin Gravel + Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

Habs might have to had, but what...picks or prospects??

12 Dec 2018 15:48:13
Meant add not had . lol typos.

12 Dec 2018 21:04:25
petry is solid but no reason EDM does this, value isn't there.

11 Dec 2018 00:14:58
Ok let's test this.

Columbus : Jones

Ottawa : dzingle, brown, paul, Ceci, Ottawa's 2020 1st (conditional)

Ottawa gets Chabot a legit partner

Columbus gets a top 6 - 9 NHL forward, A top 4 defence, a high end prospect, a mid range prospect, and a 1st rounder if Ottawa makes it to round 2 of playoffs in 2020 otherwise a 2nd.

11 Dec 2018 01:00:23
no from ottawa.

11 Dec 2018 01:50:20
so pauls useless, and ceci would be columbus’ 5th dman (werenski, murray, savard, nuutivara)

brown is a nice piece, but his ceiling is a 2C, more likely a solid, big checking 3C.

dzingel is a 2nd line, 40point winger on Ottawa, probably a 3rd line rental addition for a playoff team, sure maybe could garner a 1st.

the first isn't even guarranteed so that isn't a game breaker. has to be unconditional to even get the ball rolling.

for jones your talking chabot+ tbh, your not getting a future top5 leaguewide dman and a #1 dman right now, locked up long term.

11 Dec 2018 01:51:16
I don't think CLB is trading Jones anytime soon. Lol. Zero need to trade one of the top young D men in the league for a package. He's too good and important to the team.

11 Dec 2018 02:01:11
So Ottawa gets a possible future Norris trophy winner for a 26 year old 3rd line winger (top 6 on crap teams), a center prospect that is yet to play a game in the nhl and isn’t getting younger, Paul who is no longer a relevant prospect of a prospect at all, a over paid 5-7th defence and a conditional 1st. GTFOH! You can’t possibly think that Columbus would even consider this! To quote BIlly Madison’s high school principal “What you’ve just said is One of the most insanely idiotic things I’ve ever heard. At nompoint in your ramblng incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on our souls”.

11 Dec 2018 02:21:32
Clb isn't trading jones and if they did they would be looking for a package with more high end talent.

11 Dec 2018 02:54:58
First of all, not a chance from Columbus.

Second of all Nick Paul was a decent prospect when he was traded for spezza going on 5 years ago. He’s an AHLer now.

11 Dec 2018 03:02:34
1. Ceci sucks
2. Brown is solid, not a high end prospect
3. Paul is a 4th liner
Big no from CBJ.

11 Dec 2018 04:14:22
Quality over quantity especially when the quantity really sucks. Execpt brown.

11 Dec 2018 05:00:41
Ceci is hot garbage, just like your biased posts.

11 Dec 2018 13:19:29
Ok firstly who exactly is nuutavira? Rofl Ceci literally out ranks him by name alone let alone experience and skill. He's top 4 even in Columbus.

Secondly it doesn't matter what I post here because even clear over payments are never enough according to many of you, I could post Ottawa's best 12 players for Jones and you still expect to add 4 1st round picks on top, somehow according to you guys Ottawa could have the top 3 leading scorers in the league and they'd still be worth no more than a 3rd round pick and a late one at that. You people wouldn't know true value of it was waived in you face.

And thirdly this is for top shelf, think about your comment on dzingle for a second, if Foligno can go from 3rd or 4th line in Ottawa when the most we had at that time was the pizza line to being a 1st line winger in Columbus to this day, and dzingle is a much better player on top line role now on a team with more depth then back then there's no doubt he'll be top 6 there especially with panarin leaving. Who exactly is going to out rank him? Wenberg, and who? Kind of need 5 more to make that comment work.

11 Dec 2018 14:17:11
Rambo Dzingel scores at the same rate as Killorn so I’ll just leave it at that, that’s not legit top 6 production on a competitive team. You don’t know who Nuttivara is and we’re supposed to take your opinion on his value and skill seriously? Simply put, any trade for Jones will need a high end, wow player coming back and this package doesn’t have it. You can throw 15 players/ picks in a deal like this who may add up to value, but CLB doesn’t pull the trigger without a premium piece coming back.

11 Dec 2018 15:02:14
Jbs other than wenberg and panarin who won't be there much longer noone else among Columbus forwards out ranks dzingle, Atkinson maybe and the Anderson and Jenner around similar skill set. Foligno just benefits from top line mines which dzingle would do better with.

Nuutavira definitely don't out rank Ceci, not a chance.

Schmoe get real, brown "not a high end prospect" hahaha tell that to any gm in the league they'll think you're a stand up comedian. The guy was slated to go top 5 in his draft year before injuries bumped him down, and his ceiling is 1st line center guaranteed top 6 forward, just needs work on skating ability which is coming along nicely. If that's not a high end prospect then we must be on Mars.

Also dzingle much better than killorn, killorn only looks good from time playing with elite and top end players in Tampa, on a weak team he's a joke, dzingle rarely plays with the better Ottawa guys but rather spearheads a line himself, that speaks for itself.

Paul still a decent prospect that can be a role player in bottom 6 on most team including CBJ.

And the 1st will likely be a 1st as not much leaves Ottawa that they can't replace. Jones a clear upgrade on Ceci and paired with Chabot or Lajoie makes their defense legit instantly, and clearly their offence in fine as is so round 2 shouldn't be too tough unless they hit Tampa in round 1.

11 Dec 2018 15:06:02
And fyi Jones wouldn't get Chabot straight up let alone adding to Ottawa side. Sure he's better defensively but Chabot got a bigger edge offencivly and he's younger with a bigger ceiling. Was also endorsed by Ek who said he was much better than he was at that age over last 2 years running. Again classic example of under value on sens players.

11 Dec 2018 17:50:28
You know Killorn plays with Cirelli and Joseph and has never played more than maybe a handful of games with guys like Stamkos and Kucherov right? He plays 3rd line minutes with 3rd line players. Also Just so you know this year Foligno has about 20 seconds a game more ice time Dzingel. Dzingel has 4 more points than Killorn with an extra 2 min a game. Killorn is the same kind of player as Dzingel, 3rd line on a good team second line on a bad team and they’ve put up similar production in their careers. There isn’t a huge difference between them where one is garbage and the other is a top 6 up and comer. As for who is over Dzingel on CLB the answer is Wennberg Panarin Foligno Atkinson Jenner Dubois there’s 6.

11 Dec 2018 18:33:07
I've seen killorn with Stamkos and kucherov, or Johnson and Palat more often than not which is where he get most his points from, dzingle has better hands, is a better skater, got a better shot, and frankly is a much better player.

Majority of dzingle minutes are with pageau and Pyatt or in this year's case teirney and Ryan and or smith and paajarvi on third line but still keeping up with top lines and getting powerplay time.

You just don't like giving sens players the credit they obviously deserve and would rather talk smack about them because of situations that have nothing to do with their skill and base their value off that garbage instead of the talent they show on ice.

It's been said around the league for years that Ottawa is among a small group of teams with the deepest depth chart among prospects in the league yet somehow a team with garbage in the system has better prospects according to you guys who are somehow worth more?

Chabot, tkechuck, brown, white, Batherson, formenton, chlapic, AHL, Gustafson, balcers, Norris, Bernard-docker, tychonick are all solid high level kids and most if not all of them have dominated their respective leagues before NHL. Chlapic and formenton need to add size and brown needs more speed or they'd be on main roster now.

On to of them there's the group that could still suprise everyone like Hoffman did, or more recently lajoie did, and that's luchuck, gagne, Paul, wolanen, etc.

On top of that 5 of those mentioned have been playing top end minutes for most of this season and not looking out of place.

White 2 among rookies
Tkechuck 3 among rookies
Chabot 1/ 2 among defence
Batherson roughly a point a game
Lajoie 4 rookie defencemen behind only dahlin heiskenen and jomiharjubu or what ever Detroit guy name is

Not a coincidence they are that good as will the other ones I mentioned be.

11 Dec 2018 18:57:00
Killorn literally hasn’t played a shift with Stamkos/ Kucherov all year. I’ll reiterate again I’m a Tampa fan. I watch the games. Killorn isn't player with superstars. I agree Killorn will get shifts with better players, but Killorn and Dzingel fall in the same bucket even if Dzingel is slightly better. That’s what I’m trying to get you to realize, Dzingel isn’t some huge value asset, he’s a serviceable player but he’s nothing special.

11 Dec 2018 20:26:00
How is it that everyone on the site disagrees with Rambo, yet we’re the problem?

11 Dec 2018 20:56:43
It's always a good time when the loudest person in the room is also the most clueless. Save your energy; no matter how many times Rambo embarrasses himself being flat out wrong and out to lunch he won't get it. Just sit back and enjoy the laughs.

11 Dec 2018 21:16:33
Wtf? Jones wouldn't get chabot straight up? That's probably the most insane thing I've read on this site, Rambo must be writing in a angry rage to write that kind of craziness.

12 Dec 2018 15:06:23
Shootsmcgee, Jones is 26 years old in the prime of his career and currently getting out played by Chabot who is 19 years old and not even close to his prime yet so yeah I absolutely stand by that statement. The whole premice of this proposal is to get a solid 1st line defensive partner for Chabot without moving you best 3-4 guys or killing the rebuild they've started.

Brown will be a top 6 forward guaranteed possible 1st line center, only reason he's in minors is they have him working on his speed.

Dzingle is twice the player killorn is jbs that's a fact, before Kuch even joined Stammers line he had killorn always with him while Kuch was on triplet line with Palat and johnson, and killorn still plays more than enough time with that line when they juggle point to Johnson's line and so on.

05 Dec 2018 09:53:47
Columbus Blue Jackets:

•) Sergei Bobrovsky

•) 6th Round Pick 2020


Pittsburgh Penguins:

•) Matt Murray

•) Bryan Rust

•) 3rd Round Pick 2020.

04 Dec 2018 15:25:46
Flames: Valimaki

Clb:Bobrovski

Does Clb consider?

04 Dec 2018 16:23:39
Short answer: No.
Long answer: No.

05 Dec 2018 00:25:11
Valimaki is a highly touted prospect.

05 Dec 2018 01:58:15
Just bobrovski playoff history doesn't seem like the answer for the flames, probably wait and see if smith can get his game back by trade deadline.

05 Dec 2018 04:08:37
CLB would be dumb not to. Bob is walking regardless. Vali is not just a solid prospect anymore, he’s a proven NHL’r already at 19.
But CGY wouldn’t trade Vali for a rental.

05 Dec 2018 05:51:59
CLB is also doing very well this year and sees themselves as contenders. Bobrovsky alone can bring them to cup finals and give them a shot at winning. Valimaki cannot.

05 Dec 2018 20:33:30
SC4CGY Valimaki hasn't played enough games in the nhl yet to not be considered a prospect. I think its 30 games u have to play? 26? Can somebody help me out with that. Valimaki has played 22. I'm pretty sure he's still a prospect no?

06 Dec 2018 05:15:03
LWOH defines a prospect as a player under 25 years of age and with less than 50 games played. Like everything else, it’s debateable, but that is a pretty good definition as far as I’m concerned.

04 Dec 2018 00:38:08
Flames Trade For.

To Flames From:
Columbus BlueJackets-
(G) Sergei Bobrovsky.

To Bluejackets From
Calgary Flames-
(C) Curtis Lazar.
(LW) Ryan Lomberg.
(G) Mason MacDonald.

Flames Goalie Lineup for Season/ Playoffs-

(#1)Bobrovsky.
(#2) Rittich or Smith,
Depending on who stays the better more reliable goalie.

Solves Flames only problem "Goalie"
Now we can win the Cup.

Mike Smiths Contract is up at the end of year and they let him go.

Resign Bobrovsky.
Resign rittich.

04 Dec 2018 07:13:04
I am a flames fan, but bobrovsky as UFA, is worth more than that. Also how would he resign, calgary needs to sign Tkachuk.

04 Dec 2018 12:21:21
Lol. That's a terrible one sided offer for goalie Bob. Even tho he's a UFA. You don't need to have 420 in your name to know you smoke weed.

03 Dec 2018 13:33:35
Columbus Trades
Panarin
Sedlak
Dalpe(AHL)

Toronto Trades
CBrown
FGauthier
Timashov(AHL)
Liljegren(AHL)
1st Round Pick 2019

Trading for Panarin I believe will put the Leafs over the Top, it's really a lot for probably just this Season having Panarin but Teams that are close like the Leafs will roll the dice sometimes and this is a Trade Proposal that does.

Thoughts ?

03 Dec 2018 13:50:15
How about a top defenseman pinball. The leafs don’t need more scoring.

03 Dec 2018 13:50:44
If they didn’t get Nylander signed and had his cap space sitting there I could see them wanting to add a top 6 forward to play with Matthews and keep JT/ marner. But they are not giving up all that without addressing their Defense at this point lol they still have $5 mill space and Horton to on LTiR putting them around $10 mill, so they still can, but i believe they add a Dman atvthe deadline, not a star but someone capable of eating minutes and that’s about it.

03 Dec 2018 14:24:58
Why sacrifice the future for one year. This team is going to be built for multiple runs not just this year.

03 Dec 2018 15:13:10
Shouldn't leafs focus be defense.

03 Dec 2018 16:13:17
Not even a good package for panarin, Columbus wants a top 6 forward plus, not a bunch of futures.

03 Dec 2018 22:32:48
I believe the Leafs will focus on adding a Top Forward like Panarin as getting a Top Defenceman is much harder to Trade for, this Team is so close to being the best Team this year, as soon as Horton is put on LTIR and moving out a 2.1mill Salary like CBrowns gives the Leafs over 10mill in Cap this year to add to what they already have, it's really only a this Season window with Matthews and Marner taking over 20mill in Cap next season.

03 Dec 2018 23:13:11
If it’s a forward they add, it better be Simmonds or another physical player.

03 Dec 2018 13:02:41
Mtl: Byron, Rielly, Benn, Fleury, 2rd2019

Clb: Murray

Club gets a second rd pick(the earliest one, Paul Byron who's a top 9 cheap player, Mike Rielly who has top 4 potential still and Benn. Clb is giving a guy a chance to maybe improve his game somewhere but they still get some assets and I think Fleury could be a good top 4 as well. he's a B+ prospect. Is this clost?

03 Dec 2018 15:43:33
Not a chance from either side especially not montreal though.

03 Dec 2018 16:21:34
Bryon, Fluery probs aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.

03 Dec 2018 13:00:51
Columbus Trades
Panarin
Sedlak

Toronto Trades
CBrown
FGauthier
Timashov(AHL)
1st Round Pick 2019

Thoughts ?

04 Dec 2018 17:35:40
So some bs and a late first gets you an elite offensive talent? Sure.

01 Dec 2018 00:06:08
Chicago: Patrick Kane, Corey Crawford
Columbus: Sergei Bobrovsky, Alex Wennberg, Pierre-Luc Dubois

01 Dec 2018 03:48:28
Obviously all the players mentioned here are outstanding. Each and every single one of these guys. Some of them are/ were the best in the world at their position. Dubois is looking more and more like he will be an elite talent at his position, and in my opinion, is the reason Columbus doesn’t make this trade. Dubois is on the rise, while Kane is on decline. That $10.5M that Kane makes May also be a big deterrent for Columbus.

29 Nov 2018 23:14:40
Ottawa desperately needs a solid shut down guy on Blueline with experience to calm the kids down a bit but still young enough to fit the rebuild.

Florida is struggling, Columbus going to have some problems when panarin leaves so.

CBJ : Seth Jones

Ott : white, chlapic, Ceci, and the 1st rounder from Karlsson trade that they are guaranteed

Or

FLA : Aaron ekblad

Ott : white, Bernard-docker, Ceci, and the 1st from Karlsson trade

Both offers see a top 2 defence downgraded to a top 4 defence in order to add youth and offence of two solid prospects as well as a 1st rounder that is not lottery protected. Also note that both rookies in ekblad deal were also 1st rounders and both considered high end prospects in both deals.


Either of those 2 guys are old enough to bring leadership and experience while young enough to fit the rebuild.

Chabot and ekblad or Jones would also be a step up from the Karlsson Methot tandem that brought them success for years.

30 Nov 2018 01:03:32
Your kidding? Jones is 100% going nowhere. and. neither is Ekblad.

30 Nov 2018 03:30:54
That jones one is laughable. Jones will sign a jersey and send it to Dorian fornthsy package if he wants, but that’s about it. So brutal for CBJ lol.

30 Nov 2018 07:23:05
See what I mean?

Ones on a struggling team the other on a team that is guaranteed to lose its top player yet somehow a package involving a guaranteed 1st round non lottery protected pick, not one but 2 high end prospects (one of which currently in Calder race), and a top 4 defenseman isn't close to enough?

But yet offers a thousand times worst you guys post to get sens players like Duchene are somehow fair value?

You need your heads checked seriously, any other team makes a similar offer you'd be jumping for joy agreeing with it especially if it was Ottawa moving one of those too.

Disagree? I got proof, his name is Erik Karlsson.

30 Nov 2018 11:34:18
Nah, your proof is that Ottawa is an incompotent s***show that doesn't know what EK is worth. We all kmew EK was going to go below market value and get the return he did because Ottawas so damn incomptent and would trade him for pennies oj the dollar. that's why wed laugh when you proposed Point+Serg+1st+Radysh+whatever, Ottawa had no leverage, they sure as hell weren’t getting that.

Jones is one of the best dmen in the league, and basically its White and a last first for him. Jones is on a solid contract that isn't expiring, why would columbus even consider this.

Same with the Ekblad one. Maybe Ekblad makes more, but its still not enough for Ek imo.

30 Nov 2018 12:24:44
There's a massive difference between a 28 war old - one more year to UFA - rumoured to wanting a massive pay day D man to a young 20s solid D man under a great contract for many years to come. I'd rather Seth Jones all day over EK right now, and it's a no brainer. Why would CLB want a package of prospects and picks for one of the best young D in the game? They wouldn't.
That package get you laughed at and you know it. You're always so insanely biased to the Sens bud.

30 Nov 2018 14:52:30
If you want Jones on Ottawa it starts with Chabot and Tkachuk.

30 Nov 2018 16:43:03
Yupp and VB are both right on this one and on the same page. Something weird is happening 😟 😟.

30 Nov 2018 19:08:13
First off vbb not a chance either of those guys would get both Chabot and tkechuck in the real world.

2nd off the point of getting them is to help Chabot tkechuck stone and Duchene make a faster rebuild so they wouldn't be involved anyway.

30 Nov 2018 19:24:21
As for yupp, the package involved a top 4 defence replacement, 2 high end prospects one who is currently fighting in the Calder race, and again a "non protected" 1st round pick whether it be this year's or next year's due to stipulation, either way it's the better pick of the 2.

Either a top half part of the league pick this year if Sharks miss playoffs or if they get in it becomes next year's pick, again go look at the trade yourself if you're skeptical.

If it does become next year's that's even better because EK has yet to sign with Sharks, Thornton likely will retire or if he doesn't will be too old to make any kind of difference as he's already slowing down, and they already moved Demers demelo and teirney, 3 of their more reliable defensive players.

Add that to what will be a frustrated Evander Kane which never turns out well, and an aging Vlasic.

I mean call me crazy, burns is good but even he can't carry that load himself.

In other words the trade is essentially a top 4 defence, 2 high end prospects, and an expected high end pick possible lottery, which is more than enough for 1 elite defence with no other assets.

Chlapic in Jones deal is to help make up scoring that panarin will leave a hole for as chlapic a goal scorer, where as Florida don't share that issue and would likely prefer docker to help boost future defence, either way both are respected high end prospects, something Ottawa clearly has an abundance of with formenton Gustafson and Brown Among others still waiting to crack the lineup.

30 Nov 2018 23:51:30
So what you just said was “bringing jones in is to help stone Duchene tkachuk and Chabot” so you expect a team to give you their best player without you giving up one of your best 4-5 players/ prospects? Lol who do you think keikalainan is? Pierre Dorian? (Reference Karlsson Trade) . Come on.

01 Dec 2018 04:08:39
What exactly do you think white is? Or the San Jose non protected 1st?

And chlapic ain't exactly a slouch by any means, he's an NHL ready future top 6 forward.

This just shows how you undervalue and underestimate sens players.

White especially might not be tkechuck but he's still extremely valuable in his own right.

And the Ceci might not be what those 2 guys are but he can still fill a top 4 role.

A similar offer from a different team and I'd guarantee you be in full support mode praising the offer.

White already top 6 quality, chlapic will get there, Ceci already top 4 and docker will get there, add the San Jose pick the value is there and you know it.

01 Dec 2018 05:36:57
Well you only have docker in the Ekblad proposal and I never said that one wouldn’t work. Jones is better than Ekblad, less injury problems and locked up long term for over $2 mill less than him. The difference in the 2 players value is not only chlapik instead of docker lol.

01 Dec 2018 15:09:12
nobiasrambo, you lost all credibility when you said white is extremely valuable.

in the real nhl, you don't get riches for rags, unless you're the gm of edmonton, ottawa, who give away riches for rags constantly.

01 Dec 2018 18:42:41
Ovies hero if you don't think white is extremely valuable you should stop watching hockey all together because you clearly don't know what your talking about.

Last season whites value was on par with Chabot during Duchene talks and while Chabot value increased dramatically whites stayed pretty darn close with him.

White is currently tied with tkechuck for 2nd place among all rookies this season so far, tkechuck did it even with weeks off with an injury but it's not like white was any less impressive how he got there considering he hasn't been on 1 line long yet and keeps bouncing between all of the top 3 lines.

So to be where he is, absolutely that's extremely impressive and anyone who says otherswise better clead the dirt out of your head.

01 Dec 2018 18:53:30
Unbiased Jim ok ok I personally think ekblad better that Jones not by much but everybody has their oppinion so I can respect yours on that matter.

But it seems like you're putting a major gap in value between chlapic and Bernard docker? Chlapic value is Fairly close to what dockers is with the age advantage slightly in dockers favour. They are also very different types of players with docker being the in your face shut down defence man, and chlapic being the skilled goal scorer.

The reason I put chlapic in the Columbus deal instead of docker is because of the impending loss of panarin. Chlapic has the ability to grow into that type of role and be a sort of poor man's panarin. On top of that, Columbus still has werenski among others on blue line so up front help needed more where Florida is the opposite, adding white gives them more than enough front end depth but docker helps their Blueline grow better.

03 Dec 2018 12:54:23
If Columbus loses their best players, they will need the young guys to build around in Jones and Werenski. I think those guys are pretty much untouchable right now. I'm not saying that your proposal is majorly biased or anything, i just think that your opinion of those assets is incorrect.
I'll give you points for not mentioning Nylander though.

05 Dec 2018 19:03:31
Thunder turkey that's just it though, panarin already stated he won't play in cumbus next year and been saying how much he wants to go back to Chicago so because of that they likely won't get much for him other than a weak rental price as Chicago not likely to be in playoffs and won't need to go for him this year as they can just wait till free agency and poach him then for nothing.

That leaves a massive hole offensively that will need to be filled.

Columbus has a loaded defence core in savard, werenski, Jones, and Murray.

Downgrading 1 of those guys (obviously Jones would be the guy Ottawa would want at a price like this) to ceci who is still top 4 quality and would be protected better in Columbus in order to add 2 solid offensive prospects in white and chlapic plus add what has potential to be a lottery pick this or next year would be a good trade off for Columbus no matter what and if it gives them a solid crack at Hughes or Lafreniere then it becomes a win for them as well.

And even if they win either lottery with that pick it's still a trade loss Ottawa can live with as it gets the experienced shut down guy who can also score and completely compliment chabot on sens top pairing. Basically a win for both sides.

29 Nov 2018 21:13:30
Columbus: Panarin
Nashville: Fiala+2nd

Columbus: Bobrovsky+2nd
St Louis: Allen, Terasenko.

29 Nov 2018 22:44:28
No way St. Louis trades Tarasenko for a player that probably won’t resign given their looking like they’re headed towards a rebuild. If they’re going to trade Senko it’s be for picks and prospects more than likely.

30 Nov 2018 00:33:00
We are not trading tarasenko for a ufa and a high pick. Lol wtf stupid bad.

30 Nov 2018 07:03:13
What’s with that Panarin trade? Fiala sucks.

One trade heavily favors Columbus, and the other trade heavily favors the opposing team.

28 Nov 2018 20:14:52
Columbus: Sergei Bobrovsky
Pittsburgh: Matt Murray + Daniel Sprong + 2nd round pick

Too much? Not enough? Who would add and what?

28 Nov 2018 20:27:27
Its not too bad imp, but CBJ/ PIT will never do that. Too much hatred between them.

28 Nov 2018 21:14:38
Where is Pittsburgh going to get the 10.5 million cap space for bobrovsky?

28 Nov 2018 21:47:09
I don’t believe he gets 10.5. 9-9.5 is my guess. Still tough for pens to do with no one making real money going the other way. What about if CBJ trades panarin somewhere else and gets Kessel as a winger replacement in a deal for Bobrovsky? Would atleast be some money leaving Pitts too.

28 Nov 2018 22:23:47
so Unbiased Jim, would you be then suggesting sending kessel back instead of sprong? maybe adding a pick or prospect back to balance the value?

29 Nov 2018 03:02:05
No chance Pittsburgh sending Kessel out. The guy’s been nothing short of outstanding for Pittsburgh, who gets great value for $6.8. That’s got to be one of the best trades for both teams I’ve ever seen.

29 Nov 2018 04:41:07
Pens are trying to milk the last drops out of the Crosby/ Malkin era. Obviously Kessel is a big part of that but if the goaltending isn’t up to par, you have to give to get. Kessel is in the rumours of being traded every offseason. I’m not saying they would do it, but to get a goalie of bobrovskys quality and price tag, a really good piece with a fairly hefty salary has to leave. It’s a logical swap. I don’t think it would happen, but more likely and financially possible than guys that make no money going the other way.

28 Nov 2018 03:47:07
Leafs trade- nylander and borgman or Rosen
Jackets- Panarin, Murray and conditional 1st

Leafs get a ufa left winger, young defensive d man who in my opinion plays a Brent seabrook style that will compliment Rielly we'll. Also a conditional 1st if Panarin doesn't resign with leafs. Panarin wants to play in a big market with modelling opportunity for his wife which TO can provide and if he doesn't want to stay leafs get the pick

Columbus gets a very good young winger to replace Panarin as it doesn't look like he'll want to resign with them and a depth defenceman.

28 Nov 2018 12:32:56
Why you call panarin a ufa? he's signed as of now, nylander is a rfa and you left that part out. Would much rather have panarin for 10 than nylander for 8 next year but Toronto can't afford either. Toronto going to have to take a lesser defenseman cause no ones giving close to equal in when everyone knows the situation. Nylander has a 60point season playing with Mathews, no one is paying close to what he's asking little alone give up great assets to get him. Might get a justin Faulk straight across.

28 Nov 2018 18:04:25
He’s going to be a ufa, it gives the leafs even more scoring depth for the playoff push and they can let him walk after the season because they won’t be able to afford him and take the pick. Jackets get a similar player whose younger and controable, at least they know they have his rights for the next 4 years so they don’t lose Panarin for nothing and Murray is currently their 4th dman who I think given the chance can take on a larger role than the one he is currently in.

24 Nov 2018 05:59:27
Blues trade: Tarasenko, Allen, Fabbri, 3rd round pick

Jackets trade: Bobrovski, Panarin

24 Nov 2018 14:52:28
Just a really really really really really stupid trade two ufas for a 40 goal scorer locked up with term and good contract.

24 Nov 2018 14:58:43
Cause panarin wants to sign in a big market like st. louis?

24 Nov 2018 03:58:22
Jackets trade: Panarin

Canucks trade: Gaudette, Goldobin, 2nd round pick

Dahlen Petterson Boeser
Panarin Horvat Virtanen
Baertschi Grandlund Lind

Hughes Woo
Juolevi tanev
Pouliot stetcher

Demko

That future looks unreal

24 Nov 2018 04:22:28
Gonna take more from van

24 Nov 2018 04:28:13
I love it. Not sure Columbus does. Any trade with Vancouver you got to be thinking about that 1st. And for Panarin, I don’t think Columbus takes anyone serious without a 1st +. Goldobin having a good year so far. Until now he’s been a bust.

We’re you planning on re-signing Panarin? Because that might be a tight squeeze for Vancouver.

24 Nov 2018 04:40:40
definetly not a bad offer, I'd think CBJ would want quality>quantity, maybe a 1st baertschi and goldy could do it, still think a bigger piece may have to move.

24 Nov 2018 15:01:43
Just terrible, going to grab panarin for the big playoff push than lose him for nothing?

22 Nov 2018 02:49:02
Toronto trades: Nylander

Columbus trades: Anderson, Savard

20 Nov 2018 00:22:52
Tor Willy + Jake
Clb Seth Jones
Possibly each team add some minor pieces

20 Nov 2018 02:40:38
Not going to be able to pry Seth Jones outta Columbus. maybe Mathews for Jones straight up. but neither team would do that.

20 Nov 2018 03:14:00
Toronto would be adding a lot of "minor pieces". With at least one being better than the two in the OP.

20 Nov 2018 07:04:02
“At least one being better than the two in the OP. ” Marner, Nylander, Gardiner, +? Are you sure that’s enough? So Laine, Connor, Myers, +? I know you hate the leafs Joe but you really make yourself sound uneducated sometimes.

20 Nov 2018 13:02:29
CLB laughs. Easy no thank you.

20 Nov 2018 13:55:30
Marner>>Liane.

20 Nov 2018 14:09:06
Leafs17, actually your post is just another one that shows how much of a homer you are.

So, go ahead as make your case, I want to hear it. How does a good, not elite winger and an all offense/ no defense 3/ 4 defenseman get anywhere near the value of a 1RHD?

2 other posters are saying how terrible the offer is, yet you are trying to defend it. Take off the blue tinted glasses for once. Lol.

20 Nov 2018 15:06:45
I didn’t say that Joe. Once again you have difficulty reading and comprehending what is being said. Just like the above post that you changed your story, even though the proposal was a straight up trade. My problem is when you say the leafs add “at least one better than the two in the OP. ” For this to happen you are suggesting the Leafs add at least Marner. So I ask you how Marner, Nylander, Gardiner, + is a good deal for Jones? Would you give up Laine, Connor, Myers, + for Jones? Read carefully before responding, you’re really falling apart here quick.

20 Nov 2018 15:17:16
You and your buddy Islandjet have lost all rights to calling anyone a homer. You two have been called out by every fan base on this site.

20 Nov 2018 16:44:17
Leafs17, once again it is your reading comprehension that fails you. I said it would take at least one piece better than the original two to get it started. Meaning that neither Nylander nor Gardiner even opens up the conversation.

So, it would start with either Marner, Matthews or maybe Reilly and then you would adjust the additional pieces on either side depending on which Leaf player you chose.

That's what I said, not what you want me to have said. Maybe next time ask the poster what they meant, instead of throwing your biased viewpoint on it and claiming they said it.

Don't worry about the homer thing, you've been called out for being a homer as much or more than anyone here.

20 Nov 2018 21:53:07
Once again Joe, it’s not what you said. You changed your story in the above post and now we are all supposed to ask you what you meant by your posts. Nobody else has to ask the poster what they meant, we just read and respond.

20 Nov 2018 23:55:22
Exactly, you "read" what you wanted me to have said so you could complain about it instead of reading what I actually said.

I didn't change what I originally said at all.

21 Nov 2018 00:18:35
Remember I never said Marner+++, that was you. You're saying the only thing the Leafs have more valuable than Nylander is Marner?

I would have thought you valued Some of your prospects like Liljegen or Sandin higher, but I don't know the Leafs depth chart well.

You're the one who jumped to conclusions and assumed I was saying Marner. I never implied at all that it would take Marner, Nylander and Gardiner.

21 Nov 2018 04:21:06
Fair enough Joe. Marner, Matthews, Tavares and Reilly for sure better than Nylander. With Kadri’s contract he’s more valuable as well, and I sure hope a couple of the young kids are more valuable than Nylander also. I used Marner out of the group to show how ridiculous the trade was. We could go back and forth on this all day but I guess I’ll just ask you what you mean next time.

16 Nov 2018 05:18:23
New York Islanders:
RW - Jordan Eberle $6.00
LW - Brock Nelson $4.25
G - Thomas Greiss 3.33
1st Round Draft Pick 2019
2nd Round Draft Pick 2020

Columbus:
G - Sergei Bobrovsky $7.34
RW - Artemi Panarin $6.00
C - Nathan Gerbe $0.675

16 Nov 2018 14:48:02
Not even close for both Bob and Pan.

16 Nov 2018 19:54:09
I think if you’re talking about a resigned Panarin and Bob than this is way off, but if CBJ knows they’re going to lose both and are desperate to get SOMETHING, then it isn’t too bad.

17 Nov 2018 06:22:59
Kinda wierd proposal here. Most teams trade their UFA’s for picks/ prospects, not for another teams pending UFA’s.

Columbus definitely says no. If they are going for a cup this year, they will be wanting Bobrovsky in net. A hot goalie can take a team all the way, and who better to take a chance on than the goalie who is widely regarded by most to be the best in the league right now, and just so happens to be your own starting goalie?

17 Nov 2018 15:46:08
CLB is currently sitting 1st in their division and T5 in overall league standings. Think they will just roll with Pan man and Goalie Bob for the season now? Unless they take a huge stumble and are well out of the playoffs at deadline?

Think they trade ether then two or one of them during the season IF they continue to be top 3 in their division?
Interesting to watch how that goes down. Both have big value as rentals. 1st++ for both.

17 Nov 2018 15:46:27
1++ each I meant.

17 Nov 2018 18:59:26
I think letting those 2 walk for free, even if you’re a playoff team, is crazy. Trading your 2 best players (or 2 of the best 3 with Seth Jones) when you’re a playoff team would suck, but getting knocked out in the first or second round and get nothing would be far worse to me. I truly believe the Tavares signing is going to change a lot of GMs thinking on this kind of thing. Unless you’re a legit contender and can afford to see a guy like that walk, stars will be traded if an extension isn’t done by the trade deadline. With the leafs roster we were able to use guys like JVr and bozak as ‘own rentals’ but the jackets don’t have the leafs depth and JVR and Bozak are not Panarin/ Bobrovsky. Seguin would have been in the same boat and I bet he would have been traded come February if he didn’t sign.

01 Nov 2018 10:50:02
Mtl:Gallagher,2 rd 2019

Columbus:Panarin(7 years@ 8.2 million)

This trade comes with the same clause that George McPhee had in the Pacioretty trade. That is that mtl would have to be able to talk to Panarin and his agents and get a deal done. Obviously I don't believe for a second that Gallagher is on Panarin level but considering Columbus might loose him for nothing, not a bad return. In the third year of contract theyres a 7.5 million bonus for Panarin

01 Nov 2018 13:26:04
Columbus might want someone younger. A prospect player that will be around for a long time along, with a first round pick.

If they don’t get a better offer, I’m sure they would accept this. But I also think they will get a better offer.

01 Nov 2018 16:11:26
The asking price for Panarin is a good young player, a good prospect and a 1st round pick.
Also, i don't think MTL would be a place he would want to play. Everything i heard was about American markets.

01 Nov 2018 17:13:01
I'm probably going to get roasted for this. But I wouldn't want to trade Gallagher for Panarin.
Obviously Panarin is the more skilled player., however ya just can't measure the other things Gallagher brings to the team. Weber may be the captain., however Gallagher is the Emotional leader of the team.

01 Nov 2018 23:07:34
Ya soda I get why you don't want to trade him I honestly don't want to trade him either but Panarin is a really good player and Marc B tried to acquire him on multiple occasion when he was in Chicago so I thought of the trade and also I thought Columbus wanted a ready now peace and not prospects.

01 Nov 2018 23:52:02
I honestly don't think habs would trade gallahger I think carey price would be traded first and they don't intend to trade him anytime soon.

31 Oct 2018 00:48:50
Rumour has it Bobrovsky has provided Columbus with a trade list. The perfect fit for each party would be Saint Louis different division and fits positional wise

Also Paniran and Taresanko are best friends probably dosent mean anything but Senko and Paniran on the same PP could be the best in the NHL. Paniran has by far the most underrated 1 timer in the game.

Option 1- most logical comparison would be Ryan Miller to Saint Louis.

Saint Louis: Robbie Fabbri/Kyrou ,Alexander Steen And 1st 2019

Columbus: Sergei Bobrovski

Option 2- it will look like a underwhelming offer but both are rental and their value is at an all time low.

Saint Louis: Robert Thomas, Jayden Schalmltz, Robbie Fabberi, Alexander Steen, Jay Boumester and 1st 2019

Columbus: Antemi Paniran And Sergei Bobrovski

Just a heads up all rentals get an underwhelming return that's why Tavares wasn't traded and Karlsson went for so little.

31 Oct 2018 02:32:03
Are you high. Are you on something.

Why would the blues trade that much talent for two expiring contracts. It's just not going to happen. Thomas will be a 1c, kyrou will be top6 schmaltz just made the team and looks good. Fabbri may make a come back be a 60pt player he was projected to be before injuries.

Bobrosky is not havingva goid year and blues can't afford resigning him. Panarin already stated he wants to be in a large market. I think the only reason it makes sense is cause we have great prospects.

31 Oct 2018 03:57:04
The first trade if you mean Fabbri or Kyrou, then Columbus would be jumping on Kyrou.

The second trade I can’t tell if you mean Schwartz or Schmaltz. Very confusing, especially since teir first names are so similar as well. There’s a big difference though. Schmaltz is a bust. 25 years old and has played only 30 games. Schwartz, on the other hand, is only a year okdee and already a veteran of almost 400 games.

Not sure about the first trade. Certainly if Columbus can’t get a better offer, they would take it. The second trade Columbus definitely takes. Especially if its Schwartz and not Schmaltz.

St. Louis is the big loser in this proposition.

31 Oct 2018 09:51:50
Hes obviously talking about Schmaltz.

31 Oct 2018 11:42:59
Can't call schmaltz a bust. He got stuck behind petro parayko. Chose a rough bortuzxo to play third line duty. Schmaltz was a stud in ago and just needed and opportunity to stick which he is doing.

31 Oct 2018 12:59:50
Yah no way Saint Louis trades Schwartz. I meant Fabbri or Kyrou. And I feel you redwing losing Thomas would be tough but that’s whatd it’d take maybes Kyrou instead.

31 Oct 2018 17:43:45
Why on earth would you lose a 1c or a top 6 winger on elcs both 19 years old for a rental. It's dumb.

You say that's what it takes but blues didn't pay that for jaybo, didn't pay that for ror. Armstrong doesn't trade his best prospects for veteran rentals.

31 Oct 2018 22:40:54
If you meant Schmaltz, then why did you call him Jayden?

 
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