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08 Dec 2018 10:17:30
Toronto Maple Leafs:

•) William Nylander

•) Rasmus Sandin

•) 6th Round Pick 2020


Carolina Hurricanes:

•) Jaccob Slavin

•) 6th Round Pick 2019.

08 Dec 2018 12:19:51
Nylander holding out was a win to Leafs fans, I don't think they want to trade him so soon.
Also, Nylander has said that Dubas told him as long as he is the GM, he's not being traded. Nylander also said he didn't want a bridge deal because he wanted to be there long term. Babcock also said that he thinks Nylander will retire a Leaf.
None of that is my words or opinion, just actual quotes from other people.
Nylander is locked up and everyone is happy, so I don't think they will trade him according to what they have all said.

08 Dec 2018 12:46:43
I didn’t think it would work until I saw the 6th round picks being exchanged, that totally sealed it.

08 Dec 2018 16:23:38
How much do we really need Slavin anyway? Sure, he’s a great player, but Leafs have one of the best GA in the league. We have a couple outstanding young prospects in Sandin and Liljegren. I don’t see the benefit in trading away our 1RW for a guy that would only marginally improve our defense.

08 Dec 2018 16:50:12
LeafsGM, yes the Leafs aren't as bad as some think defensively, but there numbers are disguised by the play of Andersen in net. I would put there defense mid pack in the league. Slavin would most definetely improve the unit as a whole by alot. If he could shift over to the right side (not sure if he could or not), then I would trade for him in a heartbeat.

08 Dec 2018 17:50:38
If Slavin could slide over to right side, would be an interesting idea. There’s a lot to like about Slavin, especially his contract. Having him on the team would give us at least three defenders in top 50.

Andersen is playing fantastic. Think he has a shot at the Vezina? Would be nice if Leafs take home some hardware this year?

08 Dec 2018 17:50:50
LeafsGM and doncherry both make good points. The D is better than a lot gave them credit for, but could still obviously be improved. However at this point I’d be much more willing to fill in around what we have using guys from the Marlies and draft picks for short term help than subtract good to great players from our current roster.

If we can get another middle of the pack solid Dman to help with the run and keep this forward group together, I’d rather. Liljegren is progressing and Sandin looks like he’s going to be a good NHLer rather quickly. Insanely high hockey IQ and very mobile. Already exceeding expectations by playing big minutes in the AHL when original thought was return to the OHL or Sweden. How bad would it look trading Nylander and him for a Dman and then have a log jam back there in a year?

I was good with trading Nylander for a Dman if someone else was willing to give him $8mill or whatever lol but at less than $7 mill, keep him, pay the big bonuses, try to win with him and revisit it ina cpl years to address needs or free up space. He will be worth far more with 4 years term left at $4-5 mill salary per year.

08 Dec 2018 21:02:25
Good one Mike.

08 Dec 2018 21:55:11
William Nylander "Kyle has old me multiple times that as long as he's here he's not going to trade me"

Babcock on Nylander "We think Willie is going to be a career Leaf"

Looks like they plan to hold onto him.

09 Dec 2018 07:04:41
And Leafs also say no because you just can't treads anyone with insane hockey IQ who is also very mobile.

You won't be able to trade Nylander in a few years now apperently unless Dubas and Babcock are gone. You own that contract for the meantime. Some fans say Nylander is the 7th best player now making more than some teams best players and Marchand, Bergeron, Pasta, McKinnon, Hall, Monahan, Gaudreu.
Kinda crazy when Tavares makes more and Mathews and Marner are yet to come.

09 Dec 2018 14:44:02
Listen to Kyle Dubas’ explanation of what Nylander says. It will change your mind. Or just don’t let facts get in the way of a narrative again, whichever way you want to go with it.

09 Dec 2018 15:09:36
“The discussion that William and I had had a couple of times was a fear of his … that he was being signed to be traded, ” Dubas told Bob McCown and Stephen Brunt on Prime Time Sports. “And my discussion with him, I just affirmed with him that that was not our intention whatsoever.

“Our intention was that as long as I was here that I saw him as a part of the Toronto Maple Leafs”

PK Subban was told habs had ‘no intentions’ of trading him. Jeff Carter was told the same thing in Philly weeks before his 11 year contract with a NTC kicked in and he was sent to CBJ, cross sports over and Demar Derozen was told the same thing. However intentions change when situations change or opportunity arises. When the cap gets tight or a better piece can be added that you didn’t think would be available, you do what’s best for the team.

Use common sense. I can come up with more examples if you just want to be a dick still. Or for once, you can take it as anyone else would and feel like you learned something.

09 Dec 2018 17:36:20
From what I remember bergevin said no he wasn't trading subban but wasn't it before the upcoming trade deadline? I know a week or so before the trade he said he wasn't shopping subban but he was listening to other GMs when they called. I see your point though it doesn't matter what's said during negotiation things change and opinions change if lthe leafs wanted to trade him tomorrow this wouldn't stop them. Just like if someone offered nylander 20 mil a year and he could get out of his current deal he'd change his mind too.

10 Dec 2018 00:04:12
Yupp will continue to bring this up in case one day the leafs trade Nylander. Then he can bash Dubas and Babcock. He likes to look for any negative to make himself feel better about his one man team. I wonder who the 7th best player in Edmonton would be? Kind of funny when you think about eh? Is there an update on Lesnar, we never got to hear the cool story?

10 Dec 2018 05:41:04
@habby, yes. That’s the point i was making. Things change and words are chosen carefully. “I have no intentions of trading you” is an extremely momentary term. “I had no intentions of trading you until a legit top pair RHD like Alex Pietrangelo is apparently on the market” lol.

07 Dec 2018 20:30:29
Carolina: Aho

St Louis: Tarasenko

Carolina gets the better player but older St Louis gets a really good young forward for a Russian

08 Dec 2018 02:45:36
I think Carolina would say no. As you say AHO is the better player, younger and a center. Position being key to me here. They would want the center over the winger right now IMO. The younger better player who's also a center.

08 Dec 2018 03:42:25
No from Carolina.

08 Dec 2018 19:36:36
He said tarasenko was the better player. Not saying I agree, but that’s what he said. He’s not saying Carolina gives up the better and younger centre and it’s fair. He’s saying tarasenko is better, but aho is younger and a centre to balance.

08 Dec 2018 21:06:31
None of those players are centers what are you talking about?

08 Dec 2018 21:08:08
No center is involved in this trade proposal Yupp.

08 Dec 2018 21:33:54
Boom boom, he’s always been a winger but has been playing some centre this year.

08 Dec 2018 21:57:39
Aho is listed as a center and has been playing as the #1 for Carolina this season tho. 🤔🤔🤔.

09 Dec 2018 14:46:22
Boom boom says tarasenkos the better player and you tell him that he said Ahos the better player. NO HE DIDNT! Lol Read the post! when you’re shown to have made a mistake again, just be a dick. We Don’t expect any more or any less.

09 Dec 2018 15:18:34
In his last game he took 18 Faceoff’s, the game before that, 3 Faceoff’s. Before that 1 faceoff. The game before that 2 Faceoff’s. One Before that, 10.

You’re right, that’s a #1 Centre. It’s amazing how total hurricanes games go by with a total of like 7 Faceoff’s including the 3 to start periods. Lol where do they sneak there tV commercials in?

I would say “hes been a winger for his career but has played some centre this season” is a fair statement. But whatever, everyone’s top centres take 1-10 Faceoff’s in 18-23 min of ice time in yupps world 😂.

09 Dec 2018 18:19:26
I don’t know what his numbers are but McDavid is center and Draisaitl takes a lot of face offs on his line.

06 Dec 2018 16:30:13
Toronto Maple Leafs:

•) William Nylander

•) 4th Round Pick 2020


Carolina Hurricanes:

•) Jaccob Slavin.

06 Dec 2018 17:40:31
It would need to be Nylander and Liljegren or Sandin to get you into the game. Top pairing defenseman aren't cheap.

06 Dec 2018 17:40:52
They won’t teade Nylander yet and also Carolina won’t want to have to pay him all this up front money he’s owed.

04 Dec 2018 23:17:20
If Carolina falls out of a playoff position come Feburary:

Toronto Maple Leafs Acquire: Michael Ferland [LW- 1.75 Million x 1 Year] + Trevor van Riemsdyk [D - 1.15 Million x 2 Years (50% Salary Retention) ]

Carolina Hurricanes Acquire: 2019 1st Round Draft Selection + Joseph Woll [G - Unsigned] + 2020 5th Round Draft Selection.

Basically, Toronto acquires some depth on defence, to give Hainsey some nights off, and possibly Ozhiganov as well. Plus, if TVR is a 1.15 million, he helps with the cap crunch next year. Ferland is the big piece, and he helps with the lack of physicality on this Maple Leaf team.

Carolina would be out of the playoffs in this position, hence, they acquire futures, and the first is huge to get for a rental in Ferland. TVR is also added due to Carolina's surplus of dmen, and due to their cap space, they retain salary and get Woll back in return, a goalie who could be of help in the future, and could form a tandem with Ned.

Trading a 1st seems costly, but Toronto basically goes all-in with their roster, hoping to win a cup this year. Plus, the roster stays in tact, they get a rental who can provide physicality and a dman for next year. And remember, TVR was traded for a 2nd. Ferland ain't worth a 1st by himself, so Woll and a 5th makes up for the addition.

Toronto Lineup:
Marleau - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Ferland - Kadri - Kapanen
Johnsson/ Ennis - Lindholm - Brown/ Ennis

Rielly - van Riemsdyk/ Hainsey
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Dermott - Ozhiagnov/ Hainsey.

05 Dec 2018 00:09:34
@TSS

Very little here to disagree with. I always enjoy your proposals. Well thought out and make a lot of sense. I also like how you put the players salaries and contract durations in your posts as well. Extremely helpful in aiding the reader quickly assess a proposal. I think you are pretty close here in what you are suggesting. To be honest, the only thing I am not in full agreement is including Woll. Carolina has Nedeljkovic already. If we give them Woll, we lose our best goalie prospect. I kinda like the thought of having a highly rated goalie prospect in the organization to act as a hedge for Andersen if we feel we can’t afford to re-sign him and don’t feel comfortable enough with Sparks as starter.

Very good. If Carolina misses the playoffs this year they have a handful of decent UFA’s that will likely be shopped. Ferland is a good target. Not losing anyone off the current roster while bringing in Ferland and TVR can’t possibly hurt us in any way. If Carolina doesn’t get a better offer, then this trade has a chance at becoming reality.

05 Dec 2018 02:27:50
@LeafsGm. Check out Ian Scott. Woll is an extra year or two along maybe but this kid has a chance too. Was the goalie for the WHL vs Russia series and should be WJC goalie. Unbelievable numbers this year, albeit on a great team too, but with freddy locked up, Sparks still coming along and Scott tearing it up, I wouldn’t let Woll be the reason not to add what we need this year. We are all in for sure.

05 Dec 2018 05:23:26
Oh. Woll wouldn’t be a deal breaker or anything Jim. Just thinking out loud is all. Scott is having an outstanding year on an outstanding team. Speaking of Raiders, what do you think of Leason Jim? I mean, wow.

Scott is WHL goalie of the year. His gaa is so small I had to squint to see it. He’s a while away from making it as NHL starter though. Last I checked Woll ranked much higher, but that can change fairly rapidly.

This trade really doesn’t hurt us in anyway. And our 3rd string prospect player goalie is not a deal breaker by any means. If Leafs get a chance to pull trigger on a deal like this, I really hope they would. It just makes so much sense though that it probably wouldn’t get done.

05 Dec 2018 20:41:19
Ferland is out with a concussion, with not knowing if it's a long term injury and being a UFA after this season makes no sense for the Leafs to make that trade.

05 Dec 2018 21:15:22
I think that's definitely not enough for those two. To be fair I don't know much about Woll and his value (ik he's playing well at BC) but for a guy like Ferland who is a great type of player to have on a playoff team, plays with grit and is on pace for 30+ goals this year and seems to be growing every year (26 is still relatively young) TVR is a very solid middle-bottom pairing RHD, i'd say the leafs would have to throw in a guy like johnsson, wouldn't really have a big role on the Leafs and i think the hurricanes would want someone to help out their team immediately considering they're a tweener team. Def not a bad trade though.

06 Dec 2018 05:20:54
@shmoesports, I agree. Makes sense. I would add a piece, not sure of it would be Johnsson though. Maybe Johnsson and drop the later pick or something?

@pinball, if you’re thinking that trading pieces for guys that are older than what you’re giving up or on expiring contracts makes no sense, then you’re not ready to cheer for a contender lol that’s what they do. We are all in these next few years. Try to win the cup at just about all costs each season for the next 3 years before Rielly, Kadri and Andersen all need new contracts and it gets a lot harder.

Late firsts, seconds and decent young players are going to be moved out to bring it what you need each year and what we need this year is size and grit up front in a player that can still play with skilled players and contribute (Ferland) and D help, preferably on the right side who is mobile and can move the puck out of our zone quickly to the offense we have (TVR) .

04 Dec 2018 21:20:54
to Carolina
Nyquist (50% retained)

to Detroit
4th.

05 Dec 2018 00:54:29
Bruhh.

05 Dec 2018 00:57:27
This trade is so bad that I am actually tempted to take a trade from Pinball where it was Josh Levio plus 2nd for Nyquist.

So this is clearly even more trolling than a Pinball trade. Just saying.

Regardless, Nyquist will be traded for late 1st with retention or possibly 2 2nds if bidding is competitive. Wrists case if his value is low would be 2nd and 3rd.

This 4th might get you Nyquist'e beard shavings haha.

05 Dec 2018 05:35:11
If Carolina has a chance to make the playoffs they may make a trade like this. Nyqvist is having a very good year on a poor Detroit team. At current pace for 20 goals and 60 points. I got to imagine at minimal a 1st+ is included here. And if Detroit is doing Carolina a favor by retaining salary, even though Canes have plenty of cap space while Detroit does not, a half decent pick/ prospect must needs to be added.

I mean, right idea, right team, right player. Just an underwhelming offer is all. Nothing comes off the roster for Canes, so it’s a low risk/ high reward scenario. Precisely the type most gm’s enjoy.

01 Dec 2018 19:07:09
Toronto Maple Leafs - William Nylander

Carolina Hurricanes - Jaccob Slavin, 3rd 2019.

01 Dec 2018 21:34:57
Would think take out the 3rd and leafs add.

02 Dec 2018 01:07:46
Toronto would be adding, not Carolina.

03 Dec 2018 12:59:42
Carolina won't be adding a pick or anything to Slavin to get Nylander with no contract.

01 Dec 2018 17:09:19
TOR: Nylander
CAR: Hamilton

01 Dec 2018 21:35:45
Leafs add 2nd, maybe first.

02 Dec 2018 01:09:42
Leafs would need to add a pick and/ or prospect. Depending on the pick or prospect.

03 Dec 2018 12:56:17
No from Carolina imo.

28 Nov 2018 17:22:39
Carolina: Fleury

Mtl: Mcshane, 2rd2018, Benn

Mtl gets a young left defensemen with lots of potential Carolina gets a good center and prospect ad a pick plus a decent top 6 D at cheap price and who is a good leader in dressing room.

28 Nov 2018 18:06:29
I like how you say “top 6 d”. There’s only 6 on a team. Where in top 6 would he be? On Carolina he would be bottom pairing. Doesn’t sound as sexy I know, but is also a more accurate portrayal.

Can’t see Benn being re-signed by Carolina. So basically they get 2nd + McShane for Fleury, which still isn’t a bad return. McShane is so young still, putting up very respectable numbers in the minors. He may work out for Carolina.

28 Nov 2018 16:54:54
Carolina Trades
Pesce

Toronto Trades
Hainsey
Holl
4th Round Pick 2019
1st Round Pick 2020

Thoughts ?

28 Nov 2018 17:17:53
If you want Carolina’s attention you need the trade to be based around Nylander for Pesce.

28 Nov 2018 17:36:16
You won't get a top 4D without offering something of value to the other team. Your offers are always a good player from the other team, for worthless stuff from the Leafs. Other than the 1st, the offer is blech. Try a new shtick for your offers rather than the same basic trade over and over.

28 Nov 2018 18:07:48
Carolina also has no need for Hainsey, even after trading Pesce they still have the depth on defense they wouldn’t be bringing in anyone. Looking for forwards.

28 Nov 2018 18:21:52
With Slavin, H. Fleury, D. Hamilton, Faulk, TVR plus Bean and McKeown in the AHL on there Defense this is a move I think the Canes make, Hainsey played with Faulk a few yrs back and they paired well together Holl will probably be sent to the AHL and adding a 1st and 4th Round Pick adds to there future.
Leafs pickup a R. Handed shooting D. Man that would pair well with Rielly.

Thoughts?

28 Nov 2018 22:37:12
Doesn't make any sense for Carolina. They just don't need more defense.

28 Nov 2018 22:57:40
You missed DeHaan. Lol.

Carolina is stacked in defensemen. I just can’t see them taking on an aging and pending UFA in Hainsey for a young, cheap player like Pesce. The rest of what you are offering isn’t nearly enough quality.

27 Nov 2018 16:27:10
Carolina Trades
Ferland
Pesce

Toronto Trades
Ennis
Hainsey
Bracco(AHL)
2nd Round Pick 2020

Thoughts ?

27 Nov 2018 17:38:52
Come on lol not a chance canes even return that call.

25 Nov 2018 12:27:49
Carolina: Slavin, Aho

St Louis: Tarasenko, Robert Thomas

25 Nov 2018 17:08:03
Aho>>Taresanko.

26 Nov 2018 10:37:21
No way Aho is worth morethen Tarasenkso.

26 Nov 2018 11:35:24
Aho is 20,can play C and almost out produced Senko last year. He’s on pace to put produce him this season.

26 Nov 2018 21:40:44
Thomas and tarasenko are not available.

24 Nov 2018 20:22:11
Ottawa:
RW - Bobby Ryan $7.25
G - Mike Condon $2.40
C - Filip Chlapik $0.728

Carolina:
G - Cory Schneider $6.00
D - Ben Lovejoy $2.67
LW - Eric Tangradi $0.650

24 Nov 2018 22:43:32
Not a chance from (New Jersey) not carolina

23 Nov 2018 08:46:46
Just ideas

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire:
• (D) Jakob Chychrun
• (D) Filip Westerlund
• (2019) 2nd-Round Pick
Arizona Coyotes acquire:
• (C) William Nylander (verbal agreement to resign with the Arizona Coyotes)

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire:
• (D) Brett Pesce
• (D) Adam Fox
• (2019) 2nd-Round Pick
Carolina Hurricanes acquire:
• (C) William Nylander

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire:
• (D) Shayne Gostisphere
Philadelphia Flyers acquire:
• (C) William Nylander

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire:
• (D) Chris Tanev
• (D) Olli Juolevi
Vancouver Canucks acquire:
• (C) William Nylander (verbal agreement to resign with the Vancouver Canucks)

22 Nov 2018 18:40:02
Carolina Trades
Teravainen
Pesce

Toronto Trades
WNylander
Hainsey

Thoughts?

22 Nov 2018 19:46:21
Teravainen has probably slightly less value than Nylander. Carolina might not even do one for one let alone adding Pesce.

22 Nov 2018 20:04:49
Yes please lol

When people were saying the hurricanes would probably add something to pesce for Nylander, I don’t think terravainen is where they were headed.

22 Nov 2018 21:31:52
Carolina would be idiotic to not do that 1 for 1 Nylander is younger, has more potential and already out produces him.

22 Nov 2018 21:34:48
If this kind of offer was on the table dubas would have taken it by now. He sent out a memo to GMs a few weeks ago to let him know their offers for Nylander, This would be a no brainer.

23 Nov 2018 05:16:11
I think a more reasonable add-in for the Nylander-Pesce trade would be Williams. Pending UFA at the end of the year, likely won’t be re-signed by Carolina, three time cup winner and Conn Smythe trophy winner, and the greatest clutch player of all time. Leafs sure could have used Mr. Game 7 last year against Boston.

23 Nov 2018 06:31:51
Pesce even up for Nylander would be about fair. Carolina is giving up a top 4D for a winger that wants to be drastically overpaid.

23 Nov 2018 19:51:26
How does Nylander out produce him? Carolina might not want to mess with the Teravainen Aho chemistry.

12 Nov 2018 16:50:37
to Carolina
Nylander

to Toronto
Pesce
McKegg
5th.

12 Nov 2018 17:47:03
Nylander and Zaitsev
For
Hamilton and Necas.

12 Nov 2018 17:53:55
That’s probably close to what it could eventually be. I just wouldn’t want mckegg back. Rather a winger with size than a depth centre.

12 Nov 2018 23:54:28
McKegg was a leaf prospect he never panned out. Career ahler.

13 Nov 2018 01:19:50
I don't think Carolina would want to add Necas or Zykov myself.

13 Nov 2018 21:54:54
Would Carolina trade Aho for Hyman, FGauthier and a 5th Round Pick?
That Proposal is similar.

09 Nov 2018 23:33:58
The Vancouver Canucks send (D) Chris Tanev & (2019) 1st-Round Pick to The Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for (C) William Nylander

The Vancouver Canucks send (RW) Loui Eriksson to The Edmonton Oilers in exchange for (LW) Milan Lucic & (2019) 2nd-Round Pick

The Vancouver Canucks send (C) Adam Gaudette, (C) Brandon Sutter & (2020) 1st-Round Pick to The Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for (D) Justine Faulk


Sven Baertschi - Bo Horvat - Brock Boeser
Nikolay Goldobin - Elias Pettersson - William Nylander
Milan Lucic - Markus Granlund - Jake Virtanen
Antoine Roussel - Tim Schaller - Tyler Motte

Ben Hutton - Justin Faulk
Derrick Pouliot - Erik Gudbranson
Michael Del Zotto - Troy Stecher

10 Nov 2018 13:11:46
Lucic> Erikson.

09 Nov 2018 23:22:17
The Edmonton Oilers send (RW) Jesse Puljujärvi to The Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for (D) Brett Pesce

The Edmonton Oilers send (2019) 2nd-Round Pick & (D) Andrej Sekera to The Ottawa Senators in exchange for (RW) Bobby Ryan

The Edmonton Oilers send (C) Ryan Strome to The Arizona Coyotes in exchange for (RW) Brendan Perlini

The Edmonton Oilers send (2019) 3rd-Round Pick & (2019) 6th-Round Pick to The Vancouver Canucks in exchange for (RW) Jake Virtanen


Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Connor McDavid - Jake Virtanen
Tobias Rieder - Leon Draisaitl - Bobby Ryan
Milan Lucic - Drake Cagguila - Brendan Perlini
Ty Rattie - Kyle Brodziak - Alex Chiasson

Oscar Klefbom - Adam Larsson
Darnell Nurse - Brett Pesce
Kris Russell - Matt Benning

10 Nov 2018 00:18:05
Pesce for Puljujarvi. There is just no way this is considered as a starting point.

10 Nov 2018 01:04:14
If people begin to say Pulj = Pesce, but Willy can't get more than Pesce, that's a joke.

Also, i don't think edm takes Bobby even if Sekera goes th other way.

Strome doesn't come close to Perlini imo.

Virtanen has improved as a player this season, vancouver prolly doesn't want to trade him.

08 Nov 2018 19:21:57
3 way deal
Leafs get kessel
Pittsburg gets peche lievo and t. os 2nd and 3rd from carolina
Car gets nylander.

08 Nov 2018 22:10:56
So Leafs get back a now old Kessel and give up Nylander, Leivo and a 2nd Round Pick.
Ya that's something Dubas will jump on.

09 Nov 2018 18:22:52
Nylanders gone anyway we are still paying some of kessels salary. And for the money nylander wants why not give it to kessel way better player.

08 Nov 2018 18:03:15
Oilers are close. They need a pure goal scorer, but they can’t get one as long as Lucic’s contract is on the roster. Plus, they do need a Defenceman. It would be great to get a puck moving Defenceman, but this is too much for now and Bouchard and Bear or one of them is probably here next season.

Proposed trades:
Carolina or New Jersey: 3rd Round pick (Both teams have space)
Oilers: Lucic + 1 st Round pick (Not big hickey markets and Lucic would appreciate that)

Sens: Stone (UFA and won’t sign with them. Oilers will do this if signed before trade)
Oilers: Puljujärvi (a lot of potential and Sens are rebuilding. Also, they have gotten worse returns for Hoffman and Karlsson. Puljujarvi is a much better return)

Panthers: Petrovic (UFA and would sign with Oilers as he is from Edmonton)
Oilers: Benning + 3rd Round Pick

Line up:
RNH - McDavid- Ratty
Raider - Drai - Stone (two scoring lines now)
Caggiula - Strome - Chaison
Kairha - Brodziak - Kassian

Klefbom - Larson
Nurse - Petrovic
Gravel - Russell (Gravel replaced after Sekera is back. If in good form, Sekera will be a great boost to the defence)

08 Nov 2018 18:59:10
I think Ottawa will want more than just puli for Stone. Even without an extension, there will be a lineup of teams willing to pay a good prospect and maybe a bit more for stone as a rental at the deadline.

08 Nov 2018 19:24:14
I don't think they are that close

Having McDavid hides a lot of blemishes. especially in a small sample size.

08 Nov 2018 23:19:00
Unbiased Jim,
The Sens want a better return, it doesn’t they will.
Look at what the got for both Hoffman and Karlsson. Puljujarvi is a win for them compared to the other returns.

08 Nov 2018 23:20:42
Unsportsmanlike, I said they are closer. Never said they could win the cup.
McDavid does so much for the team. He has RNH.
The oilers need someone for Drai. When he was with Hall or McDavid, his production sky rocketed. That is why Stone will be an amazing addition.

09 Nov 2018 00:05:01
I’ve tried to think of good scoring wingers that wouldn’t cost a ton to acquire for oilers, Tyler Toffoli is rumoured to be available too, and I always try to work Lucic into a deal for cap relief. It’s 5 more years at $6mill! I was thinking it had been longer. I know he liked LA and they liked him, but they wouldn’t give the term. I believe they offered $7 mill but wouldn't go over 4 years at the time. So no way they take on 5 more years of him 2 years later. I Just think toffoli could be a decent fit but Lucic would have to go somewhere in another deal and he would get to say no to being buried somewhere crappy. Tough one.

09 Nov 2018 00:12:30
And Sens didn’t get good value for Karlsson, I agree. But he wasn’t with an extension, you’re saying this is with an extension for Stone. And as underwhelming as the Karlsson pkg was, I think oilers would take it for puli lol so he’s not a better return than they got for Karlsson.

Puli for Demelo, Tierney, Balcers, Norris (recent 1st), 1st rd pick, 2nd rd pick, 2nd rd pick (plus another conditional 1st that 99% they will not get so ignore this one)? If Chiarelli said no to that one, it confirms everything I already know about him lol.

09 Nov 2018 04:18:05
Stone would be a great addition for Edmonton but it might take more, not sure. Jim LA is looking for speed, whether they liked Lucic or not it just wouldn’t happen.

24 Nov 2018 16:59:38
You guys really need to share what ever you are smoking when you post this crap.

07 Nov 2018 00:29:56
Toronto trades Nylander, Liljegren, Gardiner, 1st

Carolina trades Slavin, Pesce

Leafs defense:

Rielly/ Pesce
Slavin/ Zaitsev
Dermott/ Hainsey
*Ozhighanov
(Sandin/ Rasanen)

Carolina defense:

Gardiner/ Hamilton
DeHaan/ Faulk
Fleury/ TVR
*Bean,

07 Nov 2018 03:29:37
Umm did you finish this post or post it by accident, because this doesn’t seem like you?

07 Nov 2018 14:02:56
Jesus Leafs fans. Canes aren't trading Slavin. They are willing to offer one of Pesce or Faulk. Stop being delusional.

07 Nov 2018 16:03:06
i don't see toronto giving up on liljegren this quickly. potential top 4 talent in my opinion.

07 Nov 2018 16:53:04
Stop being delusional?! Haha leaf fans try doing a deal for Nylander to Carolina and your response is why would the canes change anything? “Carolina’s a HOT team” and their top line is ‘doing fantastic’ lol

5 game losing streak, lost 8 of 10, 7th place out of 8 teams in the division and that line has 2g and 2a combined over 5 games.

You’re not as dumb as these comments (also saying ‘leafs are better without Matthews haha) , it just shows the pettiness and the lengths you’re willing to go to. You make statements like those, which are so easily disproved, make yourself look like the least educated person on the site, when you’re not even close to it, just to try to discredit any leaf fans comment lol 2 wins in 10 games is a HOT (you put it in all capitals) team? 😂. If you’re not purposely being an idiot, and you actually think that’s a hot team with a dominant first line, I’m sorry.

07 Nov 2018 17:35:13
@mostleaf

This actually wasn’t my proposal originally. It was floated on the Leafs forum, but I thought it was fantastic, so regurgitated it here as a type of response to the Slavin bromance lovefest in the thread below.

@unbiasedjim

Thanks for stepping in defense for me. Yupp seems to forget that this is a rumors and discussion site after all. This would be the spot to post trade propositions. Not sure why he thinks Carolina would be so unwilling to trade Slavin. He’s now Doughty. Like I said in the thread below, Slavin is maybe top 50 (actually, according to NHL. com, he’s not even top 50). An above average defenseman with a good contract is about the most credit that can be given him. Same age as Rielly and just over half the games played. He’s not untouchable.

07 Nov 2018 19:56:40
Yeah, nothing great has happened for the oilers this week so he will spend his time ripping leaf fans even if it means looking like a fool trying to convince you that winning 20% of a teams games means they’re on fire. I guess it’s either he tries to tear us down or he tells us how he gets to walk on brock lesners land again, so we should just take the abuse I suppose. Although he also enjoys mocking injured players and Erik Haula was stretchered off the ice last night, figured that would have kept him entertained for a few more hours atleast.

And yeah, I’m a fan of what Slavin has been able to do, but where this untouchable tag on him comes from, I will never understand. He makes just over $5mill long term which is nice, but so does Lindholm, Dumba, Rielly and lots more in that age range, all of which have a longer track record than him. Good player, fair contract, but they’re talking about him like he’s a Norris Dman with a 3rd pairing salary lol he’s a top 4 Dman with a top 4 salary. This isn’t Roman Josi or John Klingberg with 7 year deals at $4 mill.

07 Nov 2018 21:27:38
Well said Jim, lol. This yupp kid will copy and paste for a week straight that leaf fans are so easily triggered and offended. If anyone challenges the great and powerful yupp, they are whiney. A week after we disagreed on things he was still trying to taunt leaf fans by saying how shoots “deeply offended” people on this site for talking about Nylander, and that he should apologize, lol. I understand that hiding behind a computer makes kids a little braver but he should really learn how to talk to people. Maybe Lesnar will teach the lad some respect, or show Lucic how to hit someone when they’re looking, lol. If that was Kadri, he would be the dragged through the mud for weeks.

07 Nov 2018 23:51:00
Stick to deals around a right handed Pesce or Faulk and it's not that delusional. Adding Slavin, is. That's it. That's all. I didn't call all Leafs fans delusional, I'm so sorry if you took it that way, The thought of them trading Slavin in a deal for Nylander, is delusional. Relax a little would ya!

07 Nov 2018 20:53:05
Oilers haven't done anything this week, sure two losses back to back on the road vs cup champs and best team in the league. But imagine if they beat the caps on Monday for a second time his year and the Oilers would have had one more point than the cup favorite Leafs in the same amount games, and I made a post about it.

08 Nov 2018 01:42:13
What you think: Carolina is a hot team
Reality: 5 straight losses, 8 of 10

What you think: Aho, Ferland, Teravainen playing great together
Reality: combined for 2 goals in 5 straight losses

What you think: leafs are better without Matthews
Reality: every stat you threw at me except 2017 PP% said otherwise.

What you think: Chiarelli is a good GM
Reality: he’s been on the wrong side of every major move he has made in 4 years besides the Talbot trade

When this is your thought process, because those are all real things you have said in the last week and a half, then I can now officially say you are clueless and should stop being such a critical dick to other people on the site all the time. You constantly attack Vb and call him names, look at the idiotic things you have said in the recent past lol you don’t have to apologize to me ever. But just read those things you have argued and see that maybe you shouldn’t be treating vB or anyone else like sh*t because you don’t appear to be any more informed on the league than anyone else here.

08 Nov 2018 01:51:57
Also Leafs17, I don’t think he’s a kid getting brave behind a computer. My guess is he’s older than I am (or close atleast) I assume he’s just a guy that gets talked down to at work too much so he comes on here to constantly talk down to a kid who has told us all he’s 17 years old. Some people need that outlet, it’s a shame he can’t take up boxing someone his own age or something, instead of making himself feel like a real man again at the expense of a kid half his age.

08 Nov 2018 04:21:39
I agree Jim. I don’t care how old anyone is, if you’re going to bash everyone based on the team they cheer for then you have issues. There are many people that choose to talk down to people repeatedly to make themselves feel better. I’ve had civilized conversations with yupp many times over the years but his attitude changes like the weather, usually based upon the standings. I’m far from perfect and I’ve called out people on this site, including leaf fans, but at the end of the day I try to treat people with respect.

08 Nov 2018 04:30:43
Oh and another gem you came up with was saying if the oilers didn’t lose as much, they would have more points lol that was up there with Tavares, marner, Marleau, kapanen, Kadri, Hyman, Rielly and Andersen will have to carry the leafs with Matthews hurt 😂.

08 Nov 2018 12:01:07
It's not Yupp fault that he was dropped on his head at a young age jeez.

08 Nov 2018 12:18:09
Lmao. Carolina isn't trading Slavin in a deal for Nylander and you go off on totally non relevant.
You're too easily triggered by anything I say, And you take most thing I say so wrong it's hilarious. Take a pill buddy.

08 Nov 2018 12:20:04
No where do I personally attack anyone in this thread. Calling the idea of Carolina reading their best left handed D man for a winger when they are so strong on the right side is delusional. I called that IDEA delusional not the person.
But here you guys go off and personally attack me on things that are so irrelevant to the actual topic.

Take a step back, take a few deep breathes and relax you guys.
Imagine me personally atracking you guy now butt hurt you guys would be but here you are personally attacking me. Grow the fuk up.

08 Nov 2018 12:48:05
No. I responded about Slavin. I don’t get where his untouchable status come soon from. He should be no more untouchable than 7-8 other Dman from his age group with similar contracts.

The rest is just things you have said with conviction to make other people sound stupid and when they’re shown to be dead wrong you move on to the next thing to insult a guy again.


How HOT is Carolina? You said that in an attempt to belittle TSS and insult his post, why can’t you back up what you said? That’s all. Stop throwing stones at people if you don’t want me to bring up every stupid thing you say, because there’s a long lost that gets longer by the day.

08 Nov 2018 13:09:07
I never said you personally attacked anyone on this thread. You do it on other threads and then just leave them and post on a new one like there’s a jurisdiction lol call people names and be a dick and then stop posting on it and no one can call you on it on the next thread?! Lol.

08 Nov 2018 13:22:22
People have said wrong things on here before, we all have. Notice above, BoomBoom said Petry was 28, I said no he’s almost 31. He didn’t say the wrong age just to make someone else feel dumb about their comment and I wasn’t rude back to him. That’s the difference. I’m not attacking someone because they said something wrong. I responded this way because you’re insulting people every time they say something when in reality you say as many stupid/ factually incorrect things as anyone else. Ppl just don’t ram it down your throat every time, so maybe you don’t realize it. I figure if I do that to you, maybe you will not do it to the next guy. Pay it forward.

08 Nov 2018 14:00:30
Let’s not carry this on for weeks guys. My point in my first reply yupp is that you like to taunt leaf fans. We’re not butt hurt or offended by the things you say just because we respond in defense. You do the same. It’s not one person calling you out either, maybe everyone can take a step back and talk hockey like adults. This is a great site with knowledgeable people, I sure don’t come here to argue.

08 Nov 2018 16:48:51
If we were offered Aho (Nylander) Bean (Liljegren) Faulk (Gardiner) and a first for Rielly (Slavin) and zaitsev (pesce) I wouldn’t call that delusional at all. I don’t want to trade Rielly. But that offer is not delusional lol

Now I know you will say Aho is better than Nylander and that’s not wrong. Faulk and Gardiner are very similar, Gardiner has been the better player recently. Bean and liljegren haven’t proven what they are but both have a shot to be a top 4 soon enough. Rielly is better than slavin, both long term, Rielly half a million cheaper, pesce is better than zaitsev, both long term, pesce half a mill cheaper.

If someone offered Aho, Bean, Faulk and a 1st that’s not some insulting insane offer.

 
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