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16 Feb 2018 02:49:12
Poile stated phones remain wide open but prices for rental players high. Maybe he goes hockey deal again and goes after Skinner ( now not saying its likely skinner is moved but his names been out there)

To Nashville
J. Skinner

To Carolina
C. Jarnkrok
1St round pick
Alex Carrier or Jack Dougherty.
I would feel adding tolvanen or fabbro then preds are over paying a bit.

16 Feb 2018 22:14:04
Now this is something canes get interested by and no way Nashville adds Tol or Fabbro yikes extreme overpayment.

17 Feb 2018 01:56:39
Not too bad. Just don’t see why a 1st, alex carrier and scissons you proposed for Max Domi and the same package but jarnkrok instead of scissons makes it worth skinner?!

One of those has to be way off. Skinner has 200 career goals, Domi has 30 NHL goals. I know domis only 22 and has a lot of time left, but I think people forget skinner is only 25! Just been a top player on that team for what seems like forever, people assume he’s older I think.

11 Feb 2018 14:02:37
Carolina Trades

Toronto Trades
Sparks (AHL)

Thoughts ?

11 Feb 2018 14:47:06
You posted the same thing except a 2nd rounder instead of Martin and it was all negative. You think martin is worth more than the 2nd? Lol.

11 Feb 2018 14:54:56
Carolina would trade their best RHD for a overpaid 4 line center and two AHLer. Comon man.

11 Feb 2018 15:45:43
If the Leafs have too add one of there two 2nd Round Picks 2018 I would still do the trade if I where either Team.

11 Feb 2018 16:09:55
No way Hurricanes accept this one. Add at least a 1st if you want the trade done.

11 Feb 2018 17:27:16
I don't know if this is good or not. The way Sparks has been playing. He is looking like he could be an NHLer. Carolina needs a goaltender for the team to move into that next level, and they have a strong defence with or without faulk. I could see those two being the start of a deal at the very least.

Martin could also be good for them. He is a good leader and that is something the Huricanes could use. They also have about 20million in cap space next season, so taking on that salary is no big deal for them.

Instead of throwing carrick in the mix, who I think should stay and play on the 3rd pairing with dermott see about having Carolina take a few bodies off our hands and give them a couple of nice draft picks like those two 2nd rounders for thier trouble.

11 Feb 2018 18:05:44
Carolina says no, faulk is an all star caliber defence and the return here is garbage. A ahl goalie, a fourth line plug and a defence that likely won't crack the canes top four. can't see it being anywhere close.

11 Feb 2018 19:17:26
God this is terrible for Carolina. No words on how bad this is.

11 Feb 2018 21:46:20
Pretty bad when colt is voice of reason lol.

12 Feb 2018 12:27:09
Lol Colt55 you're right when your the voice of reason it's really funny. However I don't believe that is possible.

12 Feb 2018 13:39:16
Sparks is the real deal people and they need a Goaltender for the future.
Faulk is good but not an AllStar Dman.
Add both 2nd Round Picks in 2018 to sweeten the deal if need be.

13 Feb 2018 05:50:25
17 people have disagreed with you.

13 Feb 2018 16:39:26
I mean from a leafs perspective you could be giving up on a really good goalie that would be a nice buffer if andersen starts to decline. For someone we likely can't afford in a few years.

13 Feb 2018 16:41:51
Toronto is built to be well coached and outscore there defensive deficiencies. Babcock will find some hardworking defense prospects think hyman brown but on defense. That will sign team friendly deals. We don't need faulk. We have enough offensive defenseman yes the value probably favours toronto now but will it in 5 years?

08 Feb 2018 23:41:59
Ott: Jeff skinner
Car:Zach smith
Mike condon

Ottawa needs left wingers and someone who can put the puck in the net

Carolina needs goaltending help bad

It’s prerty good cap wise also.

09 Feb 2018 00:55:06
Just no. how. Just how does this make any sense.

09 Feb 2018 01:22:59
jeff skinner > zach smith
condon > 4th (could prob get at least a 3rd)

if ottawa got this offer they should take this and run.

09 Feb 2018 01:30:21
jeeeeeeezzz. Yes please lol.

09 Feb 2018 01:51:23
So a 25 YO top line winger for a backup goalie and bottoms 6 player?

09 Feb 2018 03:06:22
Lol absolutely terrible for Carolina. Skinner scored 37 goals last year and is still only like 25 or 26. For a bottom 6 forward making too much money and a back up goalie.

09 Feb 2018 03:33:47
On what planet would Carolina accept that.

09 Feb 2018 11:26:12
Ottawa says heck yeah no trade backs lol.

09 Feb 2018 11:28:03
Smith doesn't make too much money. he's a very versatile player who can play any situation he's needed to however it would definitely take a lot more than him and Condon to land a player like Skinner.

09 Feb 2018 17:26:16
Smith has 3 years and 9.75 million left on his deal, condon is not worth a 3rd or even a 4th. I understand carolina needs goaltending desperately, but this trade does not rectify that situation one bit.

09 Feb 2018 19:55:53
Condon is a capable backup who has shown he can play extended time when needed. But he is no more ready to be a starter than darling was last year and we have seen how that’s worked so far. And I’m not hating on smith saying he makes too much, but for what he does, you can get guys as good and younger to do his job far cheaper than 3.25 for 3 more years.

09 Feb 2018 23:43:09
I like it.

08 Feb 2018 22:17:50
Skinner is now on the TSN top 40 trade bait list so here it goes

Col: Barrie

Car: Skinner

To me, the value is pretty fair even though Carolina doesn't need defenseman

09 Feb 2018 00:57:53
Value is fair but makes no sense for Carolina but it would make sense to a team like Toronto

2nd round pick

4th round pick.

09 Feb 2018 01:23:50
you explained why it's not believable in your post. value wise okay, but carolina doesn't need defensemen so why would they do this?

09 Feb 2018 01:30:52
yeah. i don't see a situation where they're trading for another Defence.

09 Feb 2018 01:58:55
I don't think they would want a D man back. They are looking pretty good on the back end and I would say they want pick prospect for forward depth.

09 Feb 2018 03:07:52
Not too bad value wise but Carolina doesn’t need D and they do need scoring. Doesn’t make a lot of sense.

09 Feb 2018 03:34:33
Value is there too bad Carolina has 0 reason to make this trade, as you said lol.

09 Feb 2018 05:55:39
Haha I like how somebody just only disagrees with my comments lol salty.

04 Feb 2018 00:32:47
I have some trade idea and would like hear your thoughts.

Trade #1
Montreal trade
Calgary trade
Bennett and 2018 1st

Trade #2
NYI trade
Tampa Bay trade
Foote, Johnson, 2018 1st and 2nd

Trade #3
Buffalo Trade
Vancouver trade
Virtanen and 2nd in 2018

Trade #4
Toronto trade
Jvr 2nd in 2018
2018 1st, Roy and Fluery.

04 Feb 2018 02:44:53
If islanders didn’t think they’d be able to re sign taveres I think that package wouldn’t be too far off, but it doesn’t sound like they are going to trade him I don’t see the need for Vancouver to trade away a youngish asset for Kane if they aren’t making the playoffs, they could have him for nothing in free agency. Think that’s a overpayment from Carolina for JVR, he’s a pending free agent said that’s a lot to give up for a rental if they don’t make the playoffs. I guess if they really think they can make it and make it past the first round then maybe, but they’re clearly not contenders so if anything they’d want their young guys to get playoff experience like the leafs last year. Also if they’re going to trade away that package I’d think they’d want a centerman coming back.

04 Feb 2018 03:03:46
Vancouver is so far out why would they trade for a UFA rental? They would just try to sign E. Kane in the off season without giving an assets away for nothing.

I don't see Carolina giving up their 1st for that. They are just outside and I just don't see them trading their first for a rental with new ownership, I think they keep the pick and try to get better for years to come not right now. JVR isn't the difference in them making a deep run or not they just aren't that good of a team right now.

03 Feb 2018 02:21:40


02 Feb 2018 01:48:18
Mtl: Pacioretty,de la rose
Car: Rask,3rd pick,
Mtl: Pacioretty
Car: necas,di guisseppe,2nd

02 Feb 2018 02:34:04
Lol you canes fan.

30 Jan 2018 12:49:25
Car: Pesce

Mtl: Patches

30 Jan 2018 13:22:50
A solid young top 4d for Patches is unlikely.

30 Jan 2018 15:30:13
Yeah we all know patch has negative value. Montreal would have to add there first just to get clear of him and his contract right?

30 Jan 2018 16:10:03
Nobody’s saying that Habby lol Brett Pesce is a 23 year old, 6’3 top 4 Dman that already has 200 NHL games experience. Not to mention he has a 6 year contract at 4mill per year that doesn’t even start till next season. That’s a very valuable piece. To compare, JVR has a 4.25 cap hit (patches 4.5), both goal scoring wingers in their late 20s. JVR is a ufa this year, but if leafs were offered that deal for him at this time last year, which is the same spot patches is in right now, I’d call it a steal for us. I would expect that canes would want us to add to JVR for that piece. That’s all. Not that patches is crap and not worth anything, but a guy 5-6 years younger that is controllable with a great cap hit for 6+ years is too much.

30 Jan 2018 16:55:29
Habby lollll patioretty has one of the best contracts in the league.

30 Jan 2018 17:08:17
Jim whether you will admit it or not pacioretty has more value then jvr. I like jvr but on top of patches being a slightly better scorer with far less talented line mates he is also much better defensively then jvr and he is used in all situations. also he is captain of his team and has more playoff experience. with regards to Pesce I know he is a decent young defensive dman but he provides very little offense 9 points so far all assist I'm not sure yet if I would want him for 6 more years. Patch can get more and if this is all they can get they should just keep him.

30 Jan 2018 17:09:06
@mtl4life Sarcasm is not a strong point I take it.

30 Jan 2018 17:50:11
Patches would be worth more than JVR one for one I agree. But JVR was 27 when he was in patches position with 1.3 years left and patches is already 29, turning 30 this year. So when a team trades for them and has to resign them, JVR would be a litttle cheaper and his 6,7 or 8 year deal puts him to 34-36 not 37-39 like patches. All things to be considered when giving away a 23 year old.

30 Jan 2018 17:54:46
Also I watch every leaf game. JVR can be frustrating and definitely doesn’t have a complete game. Defensive play is not his strong point, and I don’t know why you thought I wouldn’t admit that lol I also watch a ton of habs games and I don’t think patches defensive play or game without he puck is something to write home about either lol better than jvrs? Probably. But a big enough difference to justify a far better return and sign him till he’s 3 years older? Nope.

31 Jan 2018 01:19:17
Am I missing something here? Isn't patches like less then 6 months older then jvr? your whole argument is based on a 6 month age difference? Come on Jim your better then that. You don't honestly believe that makes a difference?

30 Jan 2018 22:00:28
And one more small point, the fact he’s the captain means nothing. Both leafs and habs didn’t have a captain. Habs names patches, leafs just didn’t. If they had have slapped a C on JVR for the sake of it, that makes him more valuable? Not a chance. Weber should have had the C when he arrived anyway. No one carries himself like more of a leader or commands the respect that he does.

31 Jan 2018 04:30:03
If jvr had been selected by his teammates to be the captain then yes that would speak volumes and would actually add a little to his value. weber will be captain as soon as pacioretty is traded. Not for Pesce though lol.

31 Jan 2018 13:12:11
Yeah should have been 2 years not 3, they’re less than a year apart but JVRs contract is a year ahead. Meaning he was almost 2 years younger when he had a year and a third left on his contract like patches does now and will be 2 years younger this July first when he signs his last big contract than patches will be NEXT July when he signs 6,7 or 8 year deal. And when you’re in your mid to late 30s at the end of both of their respective contracts, absolutely 2 years is a massive difference. How many players are extremely effective one season and it’s gone by the start of next season at that age (36,37). Lots. If you don’t believe a player signed till he’s 38 or 39 is more of a risk than a player signed till 36 or 37 then that’s you opinion. I definitely don’t believe that.

31 Jan 2018 16:07:53
Yes but pacioretty has anonther year left now at a real good price. Gms are not trading for either guy thinking what there next contract will be. Chances are whoever either player goes to if they are even traded at all. will still be testing the F. A market and will most likely sign elsewhere. all this is doing is making a better case for patches value because a team who gets him can have him for 2 playoff runs and a full season. or if they choose can trade him again at next years deadline and get back some assests. pretty easy to see jim.

31 Jan 2018 17:50:24
Okay. We will see when patches gets traded what he gets. I see what you’re saying. I still don’t see a team trading a player like pesce with a contract like that for him.

Consider this:

When Taylor Hall was traded he was 24 with 4 years left on his contract (patches 29 with 1 year left)
Both Goal scoring LW

Edmonton got Adam Larson, a 23 year old, defensive minded Dman without an overwhelming offensive upside. He had 5 years at $4.1 mill on his contract (pesce is 23, defence first, with a bit of offense top 4, with 6 years left at 4 mill.

29 year old pacioretty with just over a year left is not getting the same return as 24 year old Taylor hall with 4 years left in my opinion. If they do, good for Bergevin. But I don’t believe it for a second.

31 Jan 2018 19:18:22
Yes Jim but that was a hortible trade for edmonton I will say this though Larrson was expected to be much much more then he is currently. pesce has never been really highly touted so posdibly he is already as good as he is ever going to be. but for every hall trade there is also a duchene trade. to be honest I doubt the habs would even want Pesce I'd be thinking they will go the prospect/ draft pick route if they trade pacioretty.

02 Feb 2018 00:54:13
Possibly. I don’t think the Larsson for hall trade is that bad. That’s the one trade I’ve always given Chiarelli a break on because it filled a dire need that is one of the hardest on the league to do. Top centres, top d-men and top goalies will always be worth more on the trade market than top wingers.

So on paper, hall and patches are better players, but trade value isn’t always relative to skill. Age, position and contract status heavily favour pesce. But like I said, we will see. If habs go all prospect and pick return for patches, they better have a plan for price too. Don’t see a competitor like him being happy committing 3-4 more of his most productive years in a rebuild.

02 Feb 2018 04:41:57
Yeah ok price can go to then lol.

24 Jan 2018 15:24:27
CAR: Faulk, 2nd

TOR: Marner.

24 Jan 2018 16:48:26
Not a bad proposal. Good fit for both teams.

24 Jan 2018 18:15:23
Makes sense. Decent value, I just hope they don’t move one of the big 3 forwards. I know I sound greedy wanting a good Dman without giving up one of our best F, just wouldn’t mind playing out the next year or so first.

24 Jan 2018 18:37:24
why would toronto do that he hasn't had the best season ever but he has 32 points in 49 games that's a 50 point season for a 20 year old he has so much time to reach his full potential not adding the fact that he played so many games on the fourth line. People keep undervaluing him just because he doesn't have as good of a season as last year.

25 Jan 2018 15:27:22
Don’t see why Carolina adds that pic.

23 Jan 2018 14:28:30
Blues: Tarasenko, Bow

Car: Hanifin, Pesce, Lindholm, Aho

23 Jan 2018 15:48:56
This is not the old Colt. He would never propose trading Petro and Senko.

23 Jan 2018 15:49:14
And this is a no from Carolina. Lol.

23 Jan 2018 21:50:05
Carolina drops one of Hanifan, Pesce, or Aho. Even then, they're still building and wouldn't do it. Also, why would St Louis trade current talent for future talent? They're good enough now to have a decent chance at the Cup.

21 Jan 2018 20:00:15
Mtl: Pacioretty,
SJ: Hertl,1st round pick

Mtl: gallagher
Car: gauthier,2nd round pick

Mtl: Galchenyuk
Ana: 1st round pick,jacob larsson

22 Jan 2018 01:04:07
Probably no
No way.

22 Jan 2018 01:21:36
And then Price demands a trade. Poor Price and Weber. I feel bad for them.

21 Jan 2018 03:23:25
mtl: Chuck


lmk if you guys think it's fair. Again mtl sends a guy they drafted third overall but at the end of the day he's not fitting in good here. I still think he's worth those 3 pieces and possibly more because he proved himself at times and gms will know this. He is not another Nail Yak. So with that being said mtl gets a top center prospect, a winger prospect who is struggling atm but will fit good in mtl I'm sure and a D prospect who's stuck be hung Carolinas strong defense

21 Jan 2018 03:59:57
Thats. that's just bad.

21 Jan 2018 04:16:54
Chuck for which one? Lol.

21 Jan 2018 05:24:27
Hahahahahahahahaha wow bruh.

21 Jan 2018 05:53:36
if carolina accepted that, their gm would be fired 5 times over. like god that's bad.

21 Jan 2018 06:02:38
chucky might get you necas on a good day, but not all dude.

21 Jan 2018 06:28:52
So you want 3 of Carolina’s last 4 first rounders? Lol spin that around and see if you think it’s fair. Would you have traded pohling, sergachev and juulsen for a guy that hasn’t proven he’s a star? Not a chance. Trading just sergachev for Drouin, whos better than galchenyuk was a tough pill to swallow on its own.

21 Jan 2018 06:51:46
Hahahahaha. F it. i'm going back to calling people delusional as fuk! Screw you Leafs17, sorry if I'm hurting your feelings. I tried for a while.

21 Jan 2018 17:17:08
thanks for the feedback. I honestly don't know Necas value and I tought Fleury was really slipping as well in value. obviously in wrong. Not a reason to treat me like this guys. Grow up its a site where you try things. Sometumes it works. Sometimes it dosnt. But respect is important.

21 Jan 2018 18:25:22
Ah Bucky don't worry, it's some of your fellow Habs fans from the last ruining it for you. I just lump you all in together now so I'll apologize for that to you. Not fair to you, you're right.

18 Jan 2018 02:46:59
Mtl: Gallagher

Car: Fleury, Gauthier

Mtl gets a very good Defensive prosp3ct that would otherwise be stuck behind the great carolina defense and a big French winger who could become a very solid second line winger or maybe even top line if develop properly. Car gets a 25 year old winger that hasn't hit is prime yet and full of energy. Would this be fair for both teams?

18 Jan 2018 06:33:35
No from Habs

16 Jan 2018 12:58:35
Canucks dalhen gagner hutton 2 rd pick

Carolina fleury.. Bean or gauthier

16 Jan 2018 17:23:01
i don't see dalhen getting traded at all, but i see gagner, hutton and a second potentially getting fleury and/ or gauthier.

16 Jan 2018 17:45:03
Gagner, Hutton and a second will most definitely not get you Fleury and/ or gauthier.

15 Jan 2018 19:33:57
ML: JVR, Kapanen, Sosh,2rd pick2018

Car: Faulk

15 Jan 2018 21:16:54
JVR = UFA so he has next to no value other than perhaps the traditional trade deadline 2nd round pick for his rental services.
If he had some term on his contract left, the deal would stand a better chance of being considered.

15 Jan 2018 21:27:30
Too much maybe jvr and Sosh would be enough.

15 Jan 2018 22:18:35
You're joking AO99, right? Please say you're joking.

15 Jan 2018 22:50:55
Lolllll no they arent.

15 Jan 2018 22:53:05
Unless JVR will sign in Carolina I don’t know if they’d ask for him if they are trading Faulk. going to want a forward (preferably centerman) to be locked up and have atleast some term.

15 Jan 2018 23:54:09
Too much from T.O.

16 Jan 2018 00:16:47
Not saying that this is a good trade for either team but saying JVR has next to no value because he’s a UFA is dead wrong. Maybe like mcjesus said, he’s not the right fit for this trade, but a guy that’s a consistent 28-30 goal scoring winger, with size and playoff experience (and on pace for his highest goal total of his career) will get a 2nd round pick as a deadline rental? Lol wake up. Roman Polak got 2 2nds as a bottom pair rental, Daniel winnik got a good prospect (Connor carrick and a 2nd) as a 4th line rental. If they want to move him, he’s worth a prospect and a 1st round pick like Evander Kane will fetch and what patches would fetch this time next year if he’s still a hab.

16 Jan 2018 00:32:58
I mean let’s just say jvr signs for 6x6 Carolina is getting a 30 goal 30 assist man and that would be very good for them.

16 Jan 2018 02:05:36
AO99 let's just say Carolina just simply signs him to that in the off season and not just give away Faulk.
How about E. Kane, Jake McCabe for Morgan Reilly. Leafs sign Kane. See how stupid that sounds now?

16 Jan 2018 02:06:13
Them signing JVR would be good for them.
Them trading Faulk for him would be absolutely retarded.

16 Jan 2018 14:07:10
@yup, I wouldn’t say it’s ‘absolutely retarded’ they aren’t trading Faulk for JVR straight up. It’s known they’re going after offense, if they’re going to try to sign a guy like him in the offseason anyway and are stacked with young D on long contracts, they can afford to lose Faulk. They’re not trading him 1 for 1, they’re also getting a real good prospect in kapanen, a depth forward with some upside in soshnikov and a second round pick. They’re 4 pts out of a divisional playoff spot and 2 pts out of a wildcard spot and have a new owner that took over just a week ago. He would love to make a run and have early success i'm sure. If you deal from your deepest position to add what you really need and get a few futures with it, I don’t see how it’s retarded, but we don’t see eye to eye on a lot apparently.

16 Jan 2018 14:14:38
Not to mention how many multi year UFA signings are regretted by their team within months of deal (see David Clarkson, Milan Lucic, Dave Bolland, Kris Russel, Karl Alzner), the opportunity to ‘test drive’ a guy like JVR to see his fit with your team, coaches and system before committing 6-7 years and 40 mill should be worth something on its own.

16 Jan 2018 16:33:45
Lol. You did well in dressing that one up hey.
This deal would be absolutely retarded by Carolina.

16 Jan 2018 17:30:05
Okay lol a really good D with term (from a team loaded with D) for a really good winger as a rental with a chance to resign, a good prospect, pick and another cheap player is awful. I never said it’s a great deal either way, but there has been thousands of proposals from lots of people here that make far less sense for one or both teams.

16 Jan 2018 17:33:42
I can't tell you the Oilers did not regret the Lucic and Russell signing within months of singing it. Not sure why you brought that up.
Maybe years down the road but not months.
Why do you keep bringing up Lucic when Eriksson, Ladd, Backes were basically the same UFA signings, same time. This three one year older. And Lucic is putting up the best points. But hey, you're just a hater, I understand. Why would you bring up camparables that make his deal look good! Lol
Russel is a good #4 D man who leads the league in block shots. Those guys make $4M a year. Some #4 D men make more!

They were sure hoping for more from Alzner that's for sure. He should have been same deal as Russell.

But hey, trading Faulk for a UFA you're arguing has value cause they would resign him and some other prospect wingers. Is just hilarious. Why don't they just not give you Faulk. And go after JVR in the summer for free! Way smarter. Don't dress it up man. It's retarded.

16 Jan 2018 18:26:15
Those were just signings that came to mind. You’re exactly right that Eriksson, ladd and Backes are in the same boat. Sorry for not mentioning them. I wasn’t picking on your precious oilers, also had a hab player in there, a panther and one of my own leafs lol.

16 Jan 2018 18:38:28
And I’m not an oilers hater at all. I have defended oilers in many bad proposals. I have praised RNH when guys put him down on here or lowballed on him. I like a lot of the oilers players. But calling the Lucic signing bad is picking on the oilers? No, it’s common sense. I've seen lots of bad signings over the years on the leafs and have no problem saying it. luckily we haven’t had them with the newest management, oilers have. Deal with it.

16 Jan 2018 18:45:17
Backes has 1 less goal, 11 less points in 21 less games coming back from colon and intestinal surgery than lucic does this season. I’d say he’s pretty equal, if not doing better. And helping his team make the playoffs. But I’m sure that’s mean to say too.

16 Jan 2018 19:21:42
And obviously teams would rather sign a UFA, getvthe player they want and not give up assets in a lot of cases, but sometimes they want the player for that year too. There’s a number of reasons they do it, that you don’t seem to understand.

It gives them a player they need this year

It gives them exclusive rights for the next 5 months to talk

It gives them the option of having a lower AAV by offering the player an 8th year

It gives them a player who is worth 6.5 mill for 4.25 mill prorated for this season.

I’m sure if a team trades for Tavares this year, gets to add a player like him for 5.5 mill cap, which is very easy to do at the deadline, that’s ‘retarded too’ they should have just not tried this year, and battled with 20 teams in July.

16 Jan 2018 19:28:03
So if Lucic is a bad signing so is Backes.
And I don't think either them are.
I've always always said Lucic is worth $6M but not that term he got. That's where the over paid a little. But to say they regretted that signing months after is so so so far off its funny. Maybe years down the road. But he's putting up solid numbers, nothing crazy and def nothing terrible and playing a great role on the team with his style of play. Backes is doing good as well now that Boston is performing so well. 16 of the last 17 points or something. They are the hottest team in the league and could make a splash at deadline too.

16 Jan 2018 20:53:33
I agree, I already said Backes is in the same boat as lucic. Teams get so hyped up for one day and want a player so bad for right now that they give this massive term just because someone else would have. All those contracts you and I both named are very similar because it’s not the dollar amount, it’s the term. You look back and say, we are going to be paying (insert Backes, lucic, Ladd etc here) for 3+ ineffective years because we wanted him so bad for now. When in reality these guys are 45-50 pt players now and you could have found guys that do what they do, put up numbers close to that and would have signed for a year or maybe 2. So 2-3 months into the first season there, when lucic wasn’t able to play with mcdavid and they replaced him with a guy making less than half as much with 3 or 4 years less on his deal, you can’t tell me they didn’t look at that as a mistake. When he signed, they hoped he was Mcdavids winger for the bulk of that contract. Not be 11th or 12th In ice time on the team, 5th among forwards. No one gives guys 7 year commitments for that.

16 Jan 2018 22:52:02
Maroon is similar size, similar playing style, same position, has very similar numbers in the 2 seasons since lucic got there, 3 years at 2mill instead of 7 years at 6 million with front loaded signing bonuses and NMC, and a buyout hit till 2028. Yeah it’s not a bad contract, silly me just picking on your friend PC.

15 Jan 2018 18:44:25

Car:Gauthier, 1 rd pick 2018

Anaheim gets out of Perry contract while he still has decent value with no retention and still gets a solid prospect and a first and Carolina gets a big top line right winger to put them over the top for the next couple years.

15 Jan 2018 19:10:25
Perry has like 6 goals in 30 something games this year.

15 Jan 2018 19:35:51
Perry ain’t getting that lol.

16 Jan 2018 01:07:44
Perry got old really fast. His decline is kinda puzzling actually.

15 Jan 2018 16:39:09
Mtl: Patches, Byron, Sherback,

Car: Lindholm, Fleury, Gauthier, 3 rd pick 2018

Would this be closer then my original proposal

15 Jan 2018 17:05:32
I don't think so, patches is on a decline, yes he has value with being under contract for another year but lindholm has more points than patches, and Byron is a good speedy forward but not worth more than a 3rd rounder and sherbak does not get you two former first round picks. He looks like a 3rd line player at best.

14 Jan 2018 21:29:57
Proposed trade Carolina and Edmonton

Canes send

Noah Hanifan
Victor Rask
2018 3rd round

to Edmonton for:

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Ryan Strome
2019 3rd round

14 Jan 2018 23:12:15
Canes laugh.

14 Jan 2018 23:24:01
Definately no from Carolina, that package could get them a much better center.

15 Jan 2018 00:00:43

Dont see why Canes consider this.

15 Jan 2018 00:06:15
Why as a Canes fan we need a number 1 center and RNH gives us that. Rask while I like him is not a number 1 but a number 3 and Hanifan is another Pitkenin all offense and no defense.

15 Jan 2018 00:23:21
Ya Canes say no, easily.

15 Jan 2018 00:53:00
Haha tbh not sure why edmonton makes this. 0 need for another LHD even tho he’s obviously a good player. Rather have Mcdavid Drat Nuge down the middle. And oilers aren’t going to trade Strome unless it’s for another right hand shot they have no forwards who shoot right.
And I don’t think canes would laugh this fits their needs way more.

15 Jan 2018 01:16:10
For Hanifan. you'd have to add. however I wouldn't do this at all. Nuge doesn't get the credit he deserves.

15 Jan 2018 11:31:29
This year, Hanifin was the Cane to make the ASG, on a really good Cane defence. I would presume that he has the most value by that. And honestky, being real here, if Marner is the starting point for the Leafs to get Hanifin, Nuge is an undervalue. Cause Marner>Nuge.

15 Jan 2018 16:36:37
RNH is not a number one center. He will never be a number one center except maybe one my hand by default lol. However is playing very well this year and I really do wish him the best since he's been struggling in the past and deserves to get past that.

15 Jan 2018 16:53:57
Surprised how the agrees disagrees played out thought these would be opposite lol
But back to the trade this just literally doesn’t make Edmonton a better team. Add a player to the long list of LHD and lose a important center piece. If it was Nuge for Faulk straight across that fits Edmonton’s needs way way more. Actually a perfect fit Faulk would be on Edmonton.

15 Jan 2018 18:43:00
Oilers need to keep Hopkins and find someone else to trade.
2 way players that young with contract term are worth a lot.

Yes he's a first line center IF his faceoff % gets better.

18 Jan 2018 03:22:24
What I don't understand is why Canes fans don't like this trade. I've been a Canes fan since 2001 and to me this trade makes a lot of sense for both teams. We have a lot of young Defensemen and Hanifan IMO is far from the best of the young D men. RNH is a better Center than anything we have. Jordon Staal is not a number one and iMO RNH would fit well between our two young forwards.

14 Jan 2018 19:19:09
Thinking of future for Mtl and playoff run for Carolina so

Mtl: Patches, Byron

Car: Lindholm, Fleury

Carolina gets one of the best goal scorers in the league. Yes he's not having the best second half of season but with a guy like Patches I personally believe if he's available you need goal scoring and you believe your team is playoff long run ready, you pay the price and get him. I have Byron in here since he is also a guy who can get 20 goal/ season and with his energy could be a very good addition to Carolina top 9 especially at 1 million. Lindholm will come in a role where Drouin is already in as number one center for now so he won't have that pressure. He'll get time to play and could at the very least be a solid second line center.New start will also be good for Fleury who's stuck behind all the good D prospect in Carolina

14 Jan 2018 19:28:33
Lmao his not one of the best goal scoring in the leage a couple years ago top 25 maybe one of the best is top 10 lol.

14 Jan 2018 19:45:55
To be honest I’d hope Montreal wants more . I’m not huge on Fleury or Lindholm so maybe I’m biased but Montreal defs should expect to get a better package especially if Byron is also in it.

14 Jan 2018 20:00:34
It's interesting. I have envisioned Patches as a Cane to be honest. I guess my only issue. is with Habs lack of scoring., we ( yes it's a bad year) are seeing Approx 50 goals going to Carolina, and not seeing much offense come back. How is Lindholm doing? Is his offensive game growing?
I understand it's for a rebuild.

14 Jan 2018 19:13:24
Ok so I am a Montreal fan. And I noticed I'm not the only one on here. So I'm going to ask my fellow jabs fan this question but even if you're not one i'd love to hear your perspective just thin I have fan will be able to give me more precise hypothetical options of what MB should be thinking of doing right now in terms of trades or any type of transaction that could benefit the team.And after that explain what would be your priority if you where in MB.The future or present? I'm going with future for many reasons that I won't explain since I'm hoping this post won't be as long as TSS ones usally are lol( tbh even if they're long I always read them all because of how easy it is to ready). Ok so here are the trades that will help us for the future imo and that also adresses the other club needs as well:

Mtl: Patches, conditional 2rd pick(if Patches gets 25 or + goals this year the pick is going to be reversed)

Cal:Valimaki conditional 2 rd pick( condition mention aboved)

Now that where stuck with Weber we might as well at least get a top D prospect that he can take under his wing and bring to next level hopefully. I was hoping he would of been a mentor to Sergachev but... Drouin

Mtl: Gallagher

Car: Bean, Gauthier


Chi: Hartman,3 rd pick 2018

Mtl: Plekanec( I guess a little bit of value even with his contract since he's ufa this summer and still good defensive center for team that wabts to go in deep run)

Any team: 6 rd pick

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