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20 Nov 2017 08:57:25
Edmonton Oilers Acquire:
• Oliver Ekman-Larsson
• Anthony Duclair

Arizona Coyotes Acquire:
• Jesse Puljujarvi
• Darnell Nurse
• First Round Pick
• Ryan Strome

2nd Trade

Edmonton Oilers Acquire:
• Sami Vatanen
• Elias Lindholm
• Jeff Skinner

Carolina Hurricanes Acquire:
• Kailer Yamamoto
• Kris Russell
• Tyler Benson
• Second Round Pick

Anaheim Ducks Acquire:
• Ryan Nugent-Hopkins


Skinner - McDavid - Lindholm
Maroon - Draisaitl - Duclair
Lucic - Cagguila - Cammalerri
Khaira - Letestu - Kassian

OEL - Larsson
Klefbom - Vatanen
Sekera - Benning

20 Nov 2017 11:43:05
First ones not too bad imo.

Second one tho, Oil win. Skinner>>RNH, Vatanen>>Russell, Lindholm.

20 Nov 2017 12:38:21
Thank you

20 Nov 2017 14:21:31
Lol. The Oilers aren't reading away Puljujarvi, Moto, Nurse, 1st and 2nd. Wtf goes through people's heads when writing these proposal ideas. Not realistic what so ever. Like no team in the league will trade ALL those pieces of their teams future in two trades.

20 Nov 2017 16:23:27
If and when the Ducks do trade Vatanen, they aren't going to give him to someone in the same division and let him hurt them.

20 Nov 2017 16:55:47
Ya because Vatanen is someone to be scared about coming back to hurt you 🙄🙄

He's not that type of elite player you avoid trading in your own division. If the trade is good, and happens to be in your division, you still do it. He's good. But not an elite game changer to be worried about.

20 Nov 2017 18:17:45
Regardless if vatanen is a game changer or not, why would ducks trade him and only get back RNH who also is no game changer. Trade a puck moving RHD on a steal of a contract for a guy to be your 3rd Best center making 6mill?! Not a chance.

19 Nov 2017 15:23:33
Theoretical trades for Top 3 D-Man to Toronto:

Leafs trade
James Van Riemsdyk
Kasperi Kapanen

Ducks trade
Sami Vatanen
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Leafs trade
William Nylander
Rinat Valiev
2018 1st

Hurricanes trade
Justin Faulk
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Leafs trade
Mitch Marner
Nikita Zaitsev

Flyers trade
Ivan Provorov
--------------------------
Leafs trade
Mitch Marner

Flames trade
Dougie Hamilton

19 Nov 2017 17:42:39
you know faulk is 27 right? and you want the leafs to trade not just nylander, but a first as well?

19 Nov 2017 17:43:03
jesus i just looked at the other trades and its even worse LOL.

19 Nov 2017 18:04:29
Just terrible.

19 Nov 2017 19:32:47
Lol. These are entertaining.

20 Nov 2017 16:27:43
Ducks take this and run, but only when Kesler and Getzlaf are back. If they make a trade now, its going to be for a centerman.

21 Nov 2017 11:47:49
Mitch mar for dougie is ridiculously bad for Calgary, dougie is Calgary's best or second best dman, marner doesn't compare.

19 Nov 2017 02:09:51
Mtl: Patches , Been,3 rd pick

Ana: Ritchie, Manson

19 Nov 2017 05:27:54
Anaheim laughs.

19 Nov 2017 05:31:19
Lol. No man. You're not getting those two for patches.

18 Nov 2017 15:28:17
Theoretical Habs trades for major rebuild:
Habs trade
Carey Price (50% retained)

Ducks trade
Sami Vatanen
John Gibson
Sam Steel
Max Jones
2018 1st
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Habs trade
Max Pacioretty

Blues trade
Ivan Barbashev
Vince Dunn
2018 1st
2019 2nd
---------------
Habs trade
Alex Galchenyuk

Kings trade
Adrian Kempe
2018 1st
2018 2nd
---------------
Habs trade
Shea Weber (50% retained)

Islanders trade
Jordan Eberle
2018 2nd
2018 3rd
---------------
Habs trade
Tomas Plekanec

Flames trade
2018 2nd
2018 3rd

18 Nov 2017 16:21:52
Nice. The daily Price proposal for Saturday.

These are hilarious. Some of the worst ice ever seen.

18 Nov 2017 18:00:24
woah. what? how badly do u over value these habs players.

18 Nov 2017 18:09:19
Wow, you have officially taken the title of most delusional has fan of alltime.
Let's break this down very easily.

Prices stock is at all time low. He is injured, and next year his 10+mil contract kicks in. With that said let's break down trades.

Vatanen John gibson > price
I get that you have 50% retained but that's not going to happen. So to throw in the rest of the picks and prospets is just crazy

Patches is hood player but he is essentially a rental. On top of that Dunn as a rookie is performing very well he is projecting to be top 4 olhd. Those are just not traded. On top of all that you want barbashev middle 6 center a first round pick the blues do not have and a 2nd.
Your high my friend.

Kings need their picks more than a player that isn't even plating center or top 6 mins. Galchenyuk has been a dissapointment. Maybe worth a first but not much more unless he turns it around

Eberle has 14pts in 18 games. If nyi has any chance of resigning taveres they have to provide him with support. Besides at this point you have 6 years of 10 million in dead cap you retained in two trades.

Plek sucks nothing to see here.

18 Nov 2017 18:14:54
Holey, that Price trade is god awful for Anaheim.

Same with the STL one for STL.

This ain't a videp game. There ain't 'NHL18 TRADE VALUES'. You ain't getting that much for Patches or Price, or even plekanec for that matter.

18 Nov 2017 19:26:43
I didn’t even bother reading all of it because of how brutal the first trade was, that was pathetic.

18 Nov 2017 20:55:07
The Weber trade is hilarious.

18 Nov 2017 23:57:10
All heavely favour habs besides the Weber one. Weber 50% retained is worth a lot.

20 Nov 2017 16:32:12
Yikes. Ducks might as well throw Rakell, Getz and Perry in there. But to make it fair, have the Habs throw in a 5th rounder and make it 60% retained, then you got yourself a deal!

21 Nov 2017 11:52:11
Why would Calgary make that trade? Not to mention they don't have a second round pick.

13 Nov 2017 00:55:06
Van: virtanen And a 3rd

Ana: Lindholm.

13 Nov 2017 03:39:26
no even close.

13 Nov 2017 04:36:11
HA THIS IS HILARIOUS! Anaheim spits in Jim Benning's face for that offer.

13 Nov 2017 06:11:45
Hahaha yikes.

14 Nov 2017 02:04:17
If not taken would of develop the way he was projected to be I'm sure it could work. But he's just isn't they're so big no. Lind.

11 Nov 2017 21:34:55
Ducks Acquire:
Alex Galchenyuk

Canadiens Acquire:
Sami Vatanen

20 Nov 2017 16:32:54
This will go down at the deadline, calling it.

10 Nov 2017 06:07:44
Ana: Manson

Tor: Marner

For needs a RHD and Manson is very promising. Just the type of defensemen that's going to fit real good in Toronto.

10 Nov 2017 08:53:56
The moment you realize josh manson is 26 and not 21 you're going to realize that he's not getting that much better and right now he is not a top pairing D you trade marner for.

10 Nov 2017 11:25:15
Anaheim adds

10 Nov 2017 16:45:33
Whoa no.

11 Nov 2017 00:15:34
I don’t see an elite top pairing dman 🤔 we need Marner an Elite RW then a bottom pairing plug.

11 Nov 2017 04:14:39
Agree with Big Z that he’s not a top pairing D and you don’t trade a talent like marner with his potential for less than that. However Nylander is pretty far off calling Manson a bottom pair plug too lol that’s a shot that’s low and wrong about him. He’s a good player. Second pair RHD with a bit of grit and can skate. Polak is a bottom pair plug. Manson’s a good, not great player.

11 Nov 2017 07:44:00
Leafs could get Manson without giving up Marner but he is the type of defenseman the leafs should be looking for.

09 Nov 2017 22:02:05
The Duchene three-way deal just past. And I can't see a move like that happening again, with those kinds of names at least. However, a smaller three way deal could happen.

Toronto Maple Leafs Trade:
(C) Tyler Bozak - 50% Retained.
(LW) Joshua Leivo
2018 2nd Round Pick (lower of SJ/ TOR)

Vancouver Canucks Trade:
(D) Eric Gudbranson
(C) Alex Burmistrov
(LW) Thomas Vanek

Anaheim Ducks Trade:
(C) Dennis Rasmussen
(LW) Max Jones
2018 2nd Round Pick

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Toronto Maple Leafs Acquire:
(D) Erik Gudbranson - sign to 4 year/ 14 million extension.
(C) Alex Burmistrov

Vancouver Canucks Acquire:
(LW) Max Jones
(C) Dennis Rasmussen
2018 2nd Round Pick (TOR/ SJ)
2018 2nd Round Pick (ANA)

Anaheim Ducks Acquire:
(C) Tyler Bozak - 50% Retained.
(LW) Thomas Vanek
(LW) Joshua Leivo

Why for Toronto?
Bozak is excess offence. Marleau has started playing centre. They need defensemen, shutdown guys nonetheless. Gudbranson is an RFA after this season, and he doesn't seem all that wanted in Vancouver - apparently, he was offered to Florida for Demers. He, alongside Gardiner, could be nice, as he plays defence with no offence, and Gardiner plays offence with holes on defence. Leivo is excess depth, which is nice, but with Sosh's Russia Clause, I'd like to see Sosh as the depth guy - he's still servicable. The pick is eh.

Why for Vancouver?
Yeah, they're doing good. But they don't have the high-octane team that'll propel them anywhere in the playoffs. It's better to tank now. Trading three guys who have decent values due to good starts will bring in a good haul. Erik Gudbranson is a guy who they weren't keen on, Vanek was an offseason addition, and Burmistrov was another offseason addition. Getting the most out these guys from a desperate team is what is needed. And Anaheim is that desperate. Eaves, Getz and Kesler all missing time atm. Max Jones is a solid player who could be a nice 3rd liner checker in the future. 2nd Round Picks are nice to have, especially to stock the cupboard, and they could help if Vancouver wants to move up in the draft.

Why for Anaheim?
Desperation. Offence is bleeding. Derek GRANT is your fourth highest scoring player. You need offence in any way possible. This isn't a rebuilding or retooling team. This team is supposed to be a monster in the West. Adding patchwork guys like Bozak and Vanek helps in the short term to patch up the offensive woes, and when guys like Eaves/ Getz/ Kesler come back, they become rentals who will help on the playoff run. Josh Leivo is a nice incentive as well, as he'll probably stay on with the team as a third liner, even past this year. It's a lot to give up (former first rounder and a future second), but it's needed if Anaheim wants to get back in the race.

10 Nov 2017 04:31:59
Holy F this is great for the Leafs,
Both other teams say no.

10 Nov 2017 11:26:57
@Yup

But, i mean, Gudbranson is like 100% gone by the deadline - even THG said it. They have a new core of Tanev, Stecher, Hutton, Pouliot, Juolevi (next year at least) and Edler. I genuinely don't see how Vancouver makes out like bandits on this one. Toronto gives up an average of a 40+ point guy, a decent 3rd line guy and a 2nd for Gudbranson, who doesn't even have a point this year.

Vancouver gets a prospect and two seconds, which is a pretty good haul for three expiring contracts.

And anaheim is super desperate, look at their team. Max Jones won't crack the team for a while.

So please, just tell me why this trade is so 'holy f'in' in favour of Toronto. And please, tell me how I could improve it.

11 Nov 2017 00:19:22
Gubrandson isn’t great good bottom pairing dman.

08 Nov 2017 19:36:30
I think this could work for both teams, (contracts are years after this season):

Toronto:
RHD. Sami Vatanen (2yrs; 4.875mm per)

Anaheim:
C. Tyler Bozak (UFA; 4.2mm)
RW. Kasperi Kapanen (1yr; 863k)

Anaheim needs immediate help at centre and also requires cap-room come offseason to resign Brandon Montour. To get cap-space they would have to let Bozak walk which would be likely given Getzlaf and Kessler would be coming back. Montour will become and RFA July 1 and they already have him ahead of Vatanen.

For Toronto they get a really talented Right handed d who could potentially play top minutes with Rielly depending on if chemistry were to form. Even still a top 4 RHD.

09 Nov 2017 02:23:36
Ducks laugh and block your number.

09 Nov 2017 15:26:25
why are they measured in millimeters?

08 Nov 2017 02:40:09
So the ducks just got some brutal news with getzlaf being out 2 months and their number 2 center Kessler is yet to play a game they need a center badly

Ducks - Vatanen

Leafs - bozak, kappanen, 3rd pick

Cap hit would be a wash and that's important as the ducks are right again the cap.

08 Nov 2017 03:42:23
Doesn't get you Vatanen.

08 Nov 2017 04:35:47
Ducks laugh, dream on.

08 Nov 2017 04:36:11
Cap washes, sure. But skill and value doesn't. Lol.

07 Nov 2017 21:32:50
Mtl: Perry
Ana: Pacioretty

Perry hasn't put up as much points as Pacioretty in his last seasons
and this makes Mtl 1st line one of the best in the league

Galchenyuk Drouin Perry

08 Nov 2017 01:42:57
Lol 😂😂. No line with Galchenyuk and Perry would be considered one of the best in the entire league. Totally over valuing and over exaggerating, as usual.

08 Nov 2017 02:02:03
And why would you want to make that trade?

Paciorety $4.5M this and next year.
Perry $8.625M this and three more years.
Perry is one of the worst contracts in the league.

07 Nov 2017 01:53:07
2 3-way trades

Canadiens Acquire:
• Josh Manson
• Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

Oilers Acquire:
• Brendan Gallagher

Ducks Acquire:
• Alex Galchenyuk

#2

Canadiens Acquire:
• Sam Bennett
• Nail Yakupov

Flames Acquire:
• Artukki Lekhonen

Avalanche Acquire:
• Noah Juulsen
• 7th Round Pick

Pacioretty - RNH - Drouin
Bennett - Danault - Yakupov
Hudon - Plekanec - Shaw
Byron - McCarron - Hemsky

Mete - Weber
Alznar - Manson
Benn - Petry

07 Nov 2017 02:29:51
You are a flamer.

07 Nov 2017 04:26:23
Ok coiler whatever you say

07 Nov 2017 12:10:23
The first is good but the second is horrible for other teams.

07 Nov 2017 16:16:53
So Colorado gets juulsen and a pick for yakupov? I know sakic did well on the Duchene one, but the guys not a magician.

07 Nov 2017 18:10:05
Oilers and ducks say no to trade one, canadiens and flames should stay away from trade two. you're a flames fan, would you serioisly trade bennett for lehkonen straight up? Just checking.

07 Nov 2017 01:47:16
1st Trade:
Canadiens Acquire:
• Josh Manson
• Antoine Vermette

Ducks Acquire:
• Alex Galchenyuk

2nd Trade:
Canadiens Acquire:
• Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

Oilers Acquire:
• Brendan Gallagher

3rd Trade:
Canadiens Acquire:
• Matt Stajan
• Troy Brouwer
• Brett Kulak
• 3rd Round Pick

Flames Acquire:
• Tomas Plekanec (25% Retained)
• Andrew Shaw

Pacioretty - RNH - Drouin
Lekhonen - Vermette - Danault
Hudon - McCarron - Brouwer
Byron - Stajan - Hemsky

Mete - Weber
Alznar - Manson
Benn - Petry/Kulak

07 Nov 2017 16:47:30
ummmm noooo from MTL on the trade with flames.

07 Nov 2017 17:51:56
The Calgary one is terrible. not everyone is dumb enough to pay Stajan that much for a 4th line center.

07 Nov 2017 18:15:50
Ducks say no, oilers say no, 3rd trade is bad for both imo. why would the flames lose their 3rd round pick and prospect for exchanging cap dumps?

08 Nov 2017 01:33:22
Flames say yes. No take backs.

07 Nov 2017 01:38:52
The Montreal Canadiens trade (F) Alex Galchenyuk to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for (D) Josh Manson and Antoine Vermette.

07 Nov 2017 02:43:23
The Canadians do
The Ducks don't. Ya need two willing team to make a trade.

07 Nov 2017 12:12:17
Mtl laugh at Anaheim don't think a potential 30 goalscorerror is worth less than than Anaheim horrible offer.

07 Nov 2017 18:26:40
Anaheim says hell no we will not give you top 4 defence and add for montreals 'potential' hockey player lol.

04 Nov 2017 20:30:46
Tyler Bozak, Kasperi Kapanen, Jeremy Bracco, Connor Carrick and a 2017 2nd Round Pick to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for Josh Manson and Kevin Bieksa.

- Anaheim needs NHL caliber forwards. Their centre core is depleted, and Bozak can fill that until Getz/ Kesler come back. If they wanna trade him, he'd get a 2nd+ at the deadline. If they wanna keep him when Getz/ Kesler come back, then yeah, more centre depth for them.
- Kapanen needs to get proper playing time. He's basically an NHLer who will never get NHL time due to immense forward depth in Toronto. In Anaheim, again, a team with forward depletion due to injury, Kapanen may be able to play well alongside a guy like Rickard Rakell. Plus, with Kappy, he's basically a sure thing. Worst-case, he's a third liner getting 30ish points. Best-case, he's a second liner getting 40-45ish points.
- Bracco is the opposite of Kapanen, could be a high end talent, or could be thnext Seth Griffith. Again, worth the risk for Anaheim.
- Carrick replaces Manson (although he is worse) . He is a stopgap top 6 guy who can puck handle pretty well.

- Manson is the blueliner who will partner with Zaitsy. Perfect rugged, shutdown guy. Not a big point producer, and not the best with everything, but a reliable top 4 guy. Worth it, even if you're giving up a 50 point guy, two pretty decent prospects and a 2nd, and taking back a cap dump.

05 Nov 2017 02:25:04
this is honestly a good deal for both teams.

05 Nov 2017 05:01:59
Why does every leafs post include these sub par players and prospects.

05 Nov 2017 05:56:19
uhh. Sens fan here. But is this not Absolutely Atrocious for TOR?

05 Nov 2017 09:22:48
Manson is the d man I’ve been hoping the leafs go after. Get it done!

05 Nov 2017 09:26:19
You're reaching Lindss. He’s not asking for Karlsson in return.

29 Oct 2017 14:00:44
Leafs for the rest of the year and off season

This season before deadline

JVR, Carrick, Leivo
for
Manson, 3rd

Ducks could use more offence and when all Ducks are healthy they have an abundance of Dman. Even with Bieksa and Beauchemin possibly leaving next year they will still have a good top 4

Offseason

Gardiner, Rychel
for
DalColle, 1st-2019

Isles could use more offence on the backend and keep their roster players

Resign
Komarov 2yrs - $5 mil

DalColle-Matthews-Kapanen
Marleau-Nylander-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
Martin-Gauthier-Hyman

Reilly-Manson
Zaitsev-Hainsey
Lilligren-Borgman

29 Oct 2017 16:30:27
manson trade is way overpayment. dal colle trade way too little. 2 extremes there bro.

12 Sep 2017 13:59:32
Hampus Lindholm, Kevin Bieksa, Logan Shaw and a 2018 3rd Round Draft Pick and to the Boston Bruins in exchange for David Pastrnak (signed to 7 year/ 7 million per year deal) and Adam McQuaid.

- Anaheim beefs up their attack to contend with a beefy Edmonton Oiler offence. This will make the Pacific division title a race, as otherwise, it seemed a given that Edmonton would win.

- Anaheim loses a big piece of their defence, however, with Jacob Larsson, Cam Fowler, Sami Vatanen, Brandon Montour and Josh Manson in place, their defense still looks fine for the future.

- Of course, Anaheim would HATE to give up Lindholm, however, in order to get a 75 point guy, who is only getting better, ya got to give up something good.

- Boston loses the biggest and flashiest part of their offence, however, they acquire a dman who will compliment Charlie McAvoy and Torey Krug in the future.
- Lindholm is a solid dman who will be able to produce offence from the backend, and will allow Boston to produce a good defence core - something they have been lacking for a while now.

& don't tell me that Anaheim can just give up Fowler for Pasta. Lindholm will HAVE to go in order to get Pasta. Unless Sweeney is crazy. Which is entirely possible as well.

12 Sep 2017 14:05:09
Don't think bruins win a trade for Pasternak but this is definitely the best one I have seen. At least makes you weigh the options. Only thing is I feel that if a 7x7 deal was possible, they wouldn't trade him. Then again, seguin, kessel and Hamilton never saw a second contract because bruins wouldn't get off their wallet, so it's possible I guess lol.

12 Sep 2017 14:20:49
I can't see the Bruins doing it because they really only have like 5 players players that can get goals (Bergeron, Pasternak, Marchand, Vatrano, and Krejci)

12 Sep 2017 15:06:07
@Jim


thanks man. I read that Boston only wants 6 mil x 7 and aren't budging much. Maybe if the new deal is 7.5 x 7?

12 Sep 2017 20:58:11
I think 7.5 is perfect. He's a lot more of a game breaker than horvat who got 5.5, and he's more important to his team than most comparable guys because bruins best offensive weapons from their better days (Bergeron, krejci) are on the wrong side of 30. Draisatls 8.5 is higher because he can play multiple positions and run his own line. 6,7 or 8 years at 7.5 should be fair.

05 Aug 2017 09:58:31
1st trade:

Leafs- Tyler Bozak + Kasperi Kapanen
Flames- Sam Bennett + Rasmus Andersson

2nd trade:

Leafs- Jeremy Bracco + Frederik Gauthier
Ducks - Brandon Montour

Sign Jarome Iginla

JVR - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Bennett - Marner
Marleau - Kadri - Iginla
Komarov - Moore - Brown

Gardiner - Rielly
Montour - Zaitsev
Andersson - Carrick / Hainsey & Marincin

05 Aug 2017 16:29:56
Both awful for team not called Toronto. Montour has shown he will be a top 4 Dman and could be a high end offensive threat for years to come with his skating. Gauthier has shown in 3 years that he's close to being trusted as the 4th line center for the leafs, but they still felt the need in another 1 year helper in Dominic Moore. Bracco could be a really good player, or another undersized guy that represents your AHL team very well for 10 years. Not the return you need for moving montour.

06 Aug 2017 21:35:30
Wow! The Flames trade is enticing. But, too much cap hit. So the Flames remove Bennett and Rasmus and replace them with Brouwer and Poirier.

07 Aug 2017 04:46:47
Well then Toronto just laughs in your face Borje.

07 Aug 2017 18:08:55
The Montour trade might be the worst trade I've seen in a while. Matthews for Ritchie and Steel? Lol.

08 Aug 2017 15:41:52
Which is what I was doing Yup. I don't think his trade proposal was serious.

27 Jul 2017 17:59:10
Penguins and ducks trade

Ducks trade -Andrew Cogliano

Penguins trade- 2nd,4th or 3rd

Pens lines
Guentzel Crosby Sprong
Hörnqvist malkin kessel
Hagelin cogliano Sheary
Reaves rust Kühnhackl

Letang Dumoulin
Schultz cole
Hunwick Määttä

Murray
Niemi

28 Jul 2017 17:36:26
Why does Anaheim do this? Do they need a salary dump? Also, doesn't Cogliano play wing for Anaheim?

28 Jul 2017 20:14:46
Trade seems fair but I don't think Anaheim wants to lose Cogliano. He brings durability and many intangibles.

12 Jul 2017 19:40:40
MTL: Plekanec, Mete, 2nd

ANA: Rakell.

12 Jul 2017 21:36:04
Drouin for Vermette, random guy I've never heard of, 2nd

Good?

13 Jul 2017 00:09:50
Victor Mete plays for London knights and had more points and +|- than olli juolevi and plays same position wouldn't trade him if I were habs tbh.

13 Jul 2017 02:00:45
mtl retains half of pleckys salary, then add a 5th/ 4th.

13 Jul 2017 02:57:30
rakell is like 23, locked up for 5 more years at 3.75 mill and just scored almost 35 goals in 70 games lol you have to be kidding me. If he has another year even close to that good, he will be one of the biggest bargains in the entire league. Guys scoring 30+ goals are going to be getting 7-8 mill now.

13 Jul 2017 05:29:14
Laughable from the Ducks.

13 Jul 2017 08:28:04
Ya. Know way Ducks trade him, he's taking over for Perry as the teams top sniper. And has an amazing contract.
And I also agree with MTL4kife. Mete needs to stay in Habs system.

14 Jul 2017 12:52:45
I'd do it from mtl.

16 Jul 2017 06:51:56
mtl can not trade anymore young d man juulsen or mete no for me.

 
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