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18 Apr 2015 12:55:11
Had lots of free time today during class and was REALLY bored, so I came up with some leafs trades which is always fun
Be free to disagree with anything that i'm saying, would love some decent feedback because i'm probably off a lot anyways, so here some big trades for the leafs
I see a lot of trades of kessel to the isles so here goes nothing lol
Tor - Kessel, Percy
Nyi - Strome, Reinhart, 2nd, (no need for a cap dump since visnovsky's salary is coming off the books and isles don't have any bad contracts)
NYI give up some good prospects but having a top line of kessel - taveres - okposo might be too good to pass up and percy can maybe join the 3rd or 2nd Dline
Now this was an idea I thought of havnt heard any rumours. jvr would probably have the most value out of all our players other than kessel
Tor - Jvr
Sj - Hertl, Goldobin
With Marleau being traded they now have a replacement top line LW who if Thornton doesn't get traded could look very good, and Hertl has tonnes of potential, and Goldobin looks good aswell I think their values are pretty equal. Hertl also has has a small history of injuries in his short career so far (not very important) but it affects his value a tidly bit
Tor - Lupul
Car - Semin, 2nd
Caralina gets rid of Semins ridiculous contract and gives uo a decent pick, and recieves Lupul who has had better production than Semin, but has a injury history. but 2m less cap
heres where stuff goes out the door and 100% won't happen buttt.
Tor - Phaneuf, Bernier, Kadri, 2nd Car
Edm - 3rd/4th ovr, Pouliot/Nikitin/Purcell (bad contract)
Edm probably won't do this because they might just want to draft Hanafin for the "future" but the fans are getting a little fed up so to quicken it a bit I thought maybe. that they trade for phaneuf who could play with schultz on the top line, a #1 goalie in Bernier and kadri who is the 2nd line C since Draisaitl isn't ready yet I believe it makes the team better with all the talent on that team I think it makes them all around more solid (give a contract away to make cap space) also deal only happens if it is 100% sure they sign a deal before they get traded.
This is my own little touch because I love my Kuchy
Tor - Gardiner, Brown, nyi 2nd
Tb - Kucherov (maybe a D-man cap dump aswell)
Of course the triplets aren't being split up but i'd love this deal to happen as kucherov is my favourite player outside of Zetterberg and Stamkos, Gardiner can join the 2nd d-line, brown can be on the 2nd line and produce well with johnson and palat as his linemates, and a 2nd sweetens the pot (probably not enough but u know :P)
Anyways in the end heres how things work out
During the draft you draft Hanafin and strome/marner in the 3 and 4 picks, unless we win the lottery we draft hanafin and McJesus (I think arizona will draft a C so no worries for them to pick hanafin)
Then during Free Agency we make a splash and make a huge gamble we go out and sign Andrew "the Hamburgler" Hammond, if ottawa don't sign him of course, its kinda a win/win situation. he either turns out into a world class goalie or he's awful and we get a great pick again and the leafs make a fortune off of his Hamburglar nickname haha, then we go out and sign a big name free agent Dman either Sekera, Green, Martin (to play on the top line with Rielly and help him grow)
Lines: (in an ideal world for the Leafs)
Strome - Hertl/Mcdavid - Kucherov
Panik - Hertl/Bozak - Semin
Komarov - Bozak/Holland - Booth
Kozun - Holland/Smith - Sill
(Dcore will suck for a while)
Rielly - Martin/Sekera/Green*
Reinhart - Polak
Brennan/Brewer - Robidas
(keep in mind I havnt added any of the "cap dump players into the line up so that would change things aswell)
(Keep Hanafin, Strome/Marner, Goldobin down int he minors a year or two more)
Thats what i'd do as the Leafs GM (and that's why i'm not HAHA :( sad isn't it)
Well gimme your thoughts :D
18 Apr 2015 14:36:41
Overall I don't think those trades are very bad at all. Worst one probably the Tampa one as even if Kucherov was traded Brown wouldn't be good enough to end up on the second line (Namestnikov, Drouin) and Gardiner wouldn't make the second D pair (likely Coburn/Garrison).The only D man dump Tampa has is Matt Carle and I would love to get rid of him I won't lie but I don't feel that makes the trade viable. I know you know it won't happen, I just think value isn't quite there nor the need for Tampa
18 Apr 2015 12:01:09
Toronto - kessel , lupul, 2nd 2016
NYI - del coll, strome, Rinehart
18 Apr 2015 04:17:07
Trade at the draft.
Toronto - 3rd overall pick.
Edmonton - D Phaneuf, C Bozak,
C Leipsic & 2ndr pick.
Toronto drafts: C Strome, C Marner (the next Toews & Kane)
18 Apr 2015 11:45:00
Overpayment from toronto.
18 Apr 2015 03:54:11
penguins offseason shakeup
pit: alex burrows, nick bonino and zack kassian
van: chris kunitz, brandon sutter and beau bennett
lineup if letang is still out
burrows crosby hornqvist
spaling/perron malkin kassian
spaling/perron bonino kapanen
dupuis lapierre sundqvist
18 Apr 2015 01:57:38
O'rielly for Letang
17 Apr 2015 22:47:35
Mon Pleckaneck and low prospect
Still not solve Montréal 1 Line center problem but at least dub can be more physical then tomas on a 2line
Mon: gallagher and Beaulieu and andrigetho
Avs need help a d, gallagher is always giving is heart and soul , Avs a. Coach know well andrigetho He was is coach in junior
18 Apr 2015 07:34:13
its funny because plecanec is better than dubinsky
17 Apr 2015 19:15:06
LA: Eric Gelinas & Danius Zubrus
NJ: Mike Richards (25% Retained) & Brayden McNabb
18 Apr 2015 12:48:06
noooo lol. gelinas is better than mcnabb and zubrus's contract is much better than richards 0 reason for nj to do this
17 Apr 2015 17:18:26
To help the Oilers in net.
Senators: 2rdp 2015, 3rdp 2016, Aulie
Ott needs to shed salary and have 2 good young goalies.
Anderson would be great for the oilers now and can help our backup develope.
17 Apr 2015 21:06:02
not sure what OTT would do with aulie, but its a pretty good deal for both sides.
18 Apr 2015 02:01:33
the second round pick is nice because its basically a late first rounder but the other pieces may need to change. The sens would have no use for Aulie as they have a lot of bodies on there back end right now that could out play him. I would think ottawa would want edmontons 2016 2nd rd pick instead of Aulie and the 3rd to make this work for them.
18 Apr 2015 03:32:37
Edmonton would probably want a younger goalie, but they do need to start creating a winning culture.
17 Apr 2015 14:49:11
DAL: Joe Thornton
SJS: Travis Moen, Jyrki Jokipakka, Jason Demers and 2015 2nd
18 Apr 2015 02:06:26
Thornton has made it perfectly clear that he won't be waiving his no trade anytime soon. As for the trade itself it doesn't make much sense. If he was traded the sharks could get a much better package and i'm sure they don't want demers back. Also why would the stars go after Thornton when they have Seguin and just paid a boat load for Spezza. Center is one of position the stars don't need. Seguin, Spezza, and eakin is as solid as any 1,2,3 lineup down the middle in the league.
17 Apr 2015 06:17:27
Mon:Nathan Beaulieu and gallagher (25 Gold scorer )and hudon all star rookie prospect
Lars eller and emelin( west type d man )and a 1st
Mon: subban( a noris contender), andrigetho
Ny:mcdonnagh,(all star d man)hagelin or hayes
Stanley cup team in a few years
Hagelin or hayes-pleckaneck-scherback
Smith pelly -delarose-maccaron
Prust-dergachev (draft)- weise
Free agent( franson)- tinordi
Old Markov- pateryn
17 Apr 2015 12:54:57
Montreal wouldn't do the first one, winnipeg wouldn't do the 2nd one, 3rd one simply makes no sense.
17 Apr 2015 13:11:01
Where do I begin
Nashville will not trade their best young forward
Winnipeg will not trade their best young defender
New York will not trade their best defender (Who is much, much better than Subban)
17 Apr 2015 14:07:07
easy no from nashville
easy no from winnipeg
easy no from both teams
17 Apr 2015 20:40:03
To think that a few years back we could have just trade Beaulieu and eller to the caps
Damn Bergevin miss the Boat on that one!
I want yzerman has Montréal gm but since Bergevin is in place we cannot have him!
So Now the leaf have to make a offer of a lot of millions that yzerman can refuse and force him out of tympa! The leaf are so weak that even with him they won't get bether
17 Apr 2015 21:08:04
LOL @ that 1st guy saying montreal wouldn't do the 1st one, almost as funny as the proposed trade itself,
18 Apr 2015 02:35:36
16 Apr 2015 01:23:50
nj: mike richards (750K retained) and alec martinez
la: dainius zubrus
nj: ty rattie
stl: eric genilas
nj: beau bennett
pit: second round pick 2015 + fourth round pick 2016
nj: emerson etem
ana: reid boucher and 3rd round pick
cammalleri henrique bennett
elias zajac rattie
etem richards bernier
ruutu josefson tootoo
16 Apr 2015 02:00:36
yeah, in lamoriello's dreams maybe.
15 Apr 2015 02:29:04
Phaneuf + 4th Overall to EDM for 3rd overall 2015
Kessel+ JVR to NYI for Ryan Strome, Michael Dal Colle and Griffin Reinhart
Lupul to Calgary for 2nd round pick 2015
bozak to Washington for late 1st round pick 2015 or 2nd round pick and an ok prospect
Kadri for mid 1st round pick
Draft: Dylan Strome
15 Apr 2015 07:27:14
Leafs can even have Niktin for freeeee
15 Apr 2015 14:33:44
oilers will draft hanafin anyways so why swap picks. just take strome 4th overall.
15 Apr 2015 16:00:03
MASSIVE overpayment from Toronto with the Islanders trade
15 Apr 2015 16:30:32
awful post shake your head, all those trades were awful. jvr+kessel cold garner a lot more and cap won't work either, oilers will draft hanafin anyways so why swap picks. just take strome 4th overall. lupul won't get a 2nd, kadri trade is okay. mehhh
15 Apr 2015 17:19:09
phaneuf to move up 1 spot? are you serious? its not like you're moving from 3 to 2, then maybe it can be justified. NYI winsthat deal easily too. the rest are ok I guess, except for lupul for a 2nd, he's not worth nearly that. but all in all, ts very bad.
15 Apr 2015 18:12:28
U see that the problem too many leaf fan on This site and they over value there player! Not bad especislly that phaneuf deal but too much for bozak
Phaneuf is a ok d men but is salary is the problem!
No one want him because once you get him then you have no choice because of is salary to count him as an impact player when its not the case
15 Apr 2015 20:42:29
lol montrealfinest, you do realise that phaneuf woudl be the 2nd best defenseman on monstreal, right? also, accoridng to dreger (i have no link, heard it on the radio a few days ago), detroit was offering pulkkinen + smith + cap dump weiss for phaneuf at the deadline. so yes, I would much rather hae 4th oa + pulkkinen + smith than 3rd oa. you can say whatever you want about phaneuf and his contract, but the best ran organization in the league has no trouble taking him on and paying a pretty good price fr him imo, which speaks for itself.
16 Apr 2015 04:30:55
Markov is a bether d man then phaneuf so he would be third and I don't know a lot of d man who are paid 7 millions and 3 rd in the Lineup
16 Apr 2015 16:59:25
Shankar - the fact that the trade didn't happen is pretty revealing that they did not have the interest as outlined. right??
The problem with phanef is that his contract is too long for an excessive amount. Its simply a very bad contract. He is a very useful player but he is not a top 10 D man in the league, but he's being paid like one. Makes it tough for Toronto to move him and other teams to have a place for him as it limits their options with $ and CAP room - especially with the CAP not going up as much as expected.
16 Apr 2015 17:19:46
yeah how did I know you'd say that, anyways, phaneuf is easily the better player when compared to markov. also, his contract doesn't seem to be a problem what he's paid for the people in management whose opinions actually matter as it can be easily overcame.
16 Apr 2015 19:04:20
Dont underestimate markov he is stable and he is the type of d man that you can count on
17 Apr 2015 00:02:36
is markov bad? no he's definately not, and i've never said that. is phaneuf a better player than markov? yes.
17 Apr 2015 02:38:42
Phaneuf is I'm rumors with Deroit, Dallas, and San Jose.
Some of the best hockey minds with recent successes and they want Phaneuf?
It's because he isn't bad as you think he is. I read that they were given an offer and didn't have to retain a dime.
Hard to flourish when your D-partners are Gunnarsson, and Kostka.
17 Apr 2015 16:48:08
@mbell - what I just said there a few posts above was DETROIT'S offer to toronto for phaneuf. tornotn didn't take it. apparently they wanted mantha coming back.
so yes, the interest as outlined was there, but TOR wanted more/better.
15 Apr 2015 00:55:16
I know that Nail played better after Roy arrived but I was wondering if there was any merit to this idea. Buffalo trades Cody Hodgson, Jake McCabe, 2017 2nd to EDM for Nail Yakupov. Both Nail and Cody could use a change. Up to this year Cody was averaging .6 pts per game. Nolan worked really hard to make him look bad.
15 Apr 2015 17:21:12
hodgson's value is at its lowest point ever, while yak's is at its highest since his rookie year, so no chance its going to happen imo.
15 Apr 2015 20:28:09
easy no from edmonton. I think they know they have put Yakupov in positions to fail since they drafted him considering all of their stars have been on their first line and they have floated nail on the bottom three lines with less skilled players. By all accounts Yakupov drastically improved this season and if he can carry it into next season he could balance their scoring.
As for Hodgson I like him as a player he was awesome in junior and has put up good numbers in the past. However after this year I think he could be had for chump change. Buffalo isn't getting production out of him for the size of his contract so I could see them off loading him or buying him out. He is still young and I think if someone grabs him now they are getting a steal. I like the idea of Edmonton going for him because I think he could be their answer for a second line center for the time being but not for Yakupov.
14 Apr 2015 05:46:17
Assume the order stays the same after the Draft Lottery: THIS IS A PENS FAN, IN NO WAY BIASED
Edmonton solves every issue they have. they get their top 2 dman, 2nd line Center, and a starting goalie.
Leafs continue to build for the future.
Brian Campbell (cap reasons)
1) Buffalo-> Connor McDavid
2) Arizona-> Jack Eichel
3) Toronto-> Noah Haniffin
4) Toronto-> Dylan Strome
9) San Jose
Toronto then swap their 11th and 25th picks for Max Domi and a 2nd 2016
14 Apr 2015 12:41:36
Excellent trade! I would do the first one from either perspective! The second one I believe kessel could fetch more. Just my opinion tho.
14 Apr 2015 13:52:43
I think EDM keeps the 3rd pick. I've seen a few people suggest the Leafs could trade up with Edmonton, with Phaneuf as the main piece.
So: TOR: 3rd overall - EDM: 4th overall, Phaneuf
The Florida trade is alright.
14 Apr 2015 15:23:46
it doesn't solve any of EDM's problems. phaneuf isn't a legit #1, he'd be in the same situation as he is in TOR and will be constantly criticised just as he is in TOR. Bernier may be a very good goalie in the near future (2-3 years by the time he's 28/29), but he has shown that he needs a team in front of him to excel, which EDM doesn't have either nd his numbers will likely be even worse than they were the 2nd half of this year in Toronto. finally, explain to me why EDM needs a #2c? they ave rnh and draisaitl that will likely be their top 2 c's in a couple years and they might even draft strome just because they have some kind of weird fetish reagrding picking forwards with every top pick they have except for nurse.
15 Apr 2015 03:00:16
shank, can you name me 30 legit #1 dmen? nope. dion would be as he is right now, far and away the best dman on either team.
unless your carey price every goalie needs a team in front of him to succeed
draisatl isn't close to ready to undertake full time 2nd line c duties. like you said maybe in 2 years, maybe. doesn't help edmonton now. kadri is better and is still very young.
this trade does help both teams, not saying it would happen.
15 Apr 2015 05:16:10
Toronto will get more for kessel. he's going to the islanders
The edm one is a bad trade for Leafs, Bernier is not going anywhere.
14 Apr 2015 04:41:57
bos: milan lucic
buf: marcus foligno and one of the first round pick they have, islanders or blues
bos: reilly smith and third round pick
ott: zack smith and alex chiasson
edm: 2nd round pick
bos: krecji and seidenberg
van: alex edler and first round pick
marchand bergeron connolly
eriksson spooner pastrnk
foligno smith chiasson
talbot kelly ferlin
14 Apr 2015 17:02:34
Pretty good overall, but the third trade needs more from Vancouver.
13 Apr 2015 11:22:07
Habs: DD, Fucale, a 1st and a 2nd
Rangers: Brassard and a 3rd
Habs would be giving up a lot but they need a top centreman would can assist to compliment Pacioretty. I'm a major Habs fan but Galchenyuk is better off on the 2nd line LW for now to play and learn with and from Plekanec.
15 Apr 2015 03:03:25
Like the idea of either brassard or Stepan going to Montreal. Just not sure if Montreal is trading the right prices to New York
12 Apr 2015 17:37:18
babcock head coach bylsma assistant coach eakins assistant coach
jake debrusk/jeremy roy
trade kessel, polak to nyi for rienhart strome dalcolle salary dump player
trade phaneuf to dallas for ritchie, 1st 2016
bozak to washington for 1st round 2015/16
resign panik booth
sign enroth niemi,brennan lindstrom
trade kadri to wpg for morissey 1st/2nd round pick
13 Apr 2015 11:07:51
That would be amazing for the Leafs, but as Habs fan I can't let that happen ;) but you're overestimating the Leafs. Babcock will try and stay in Detroit or if he doesn't stay he'll go to the top teams. The Leafs don't have the same attraction that used to :( but if this happened the. Leafs would be contenders for sure.
13 Apr 2015 13:53:46
some of that might happen (drafting Strome for example, resigning Panik).
Highly doubt Babcock and/or Bylsma end up in TO, especially not together.
The NYI doesn't really make sense. They are going to have to start paying guys like Okposo and Tavares in a couple of years. It makes way more sense to keep their young, inexpensive pieces to bring along, as opposed to Kessel and his contract.
The Dallas trade isn't that far fetched.
13 Apr 2015 14:08:12
I think toronto is favored in all these trades, some more than others but I'm not sure any team says yes. I also don't think Bylsma will take an assistant coaching job with all the head coach jobs that will be available and I still don't think Babcock ends up in Toronto
13 Apr 2015 17:34:30
Keep on dreaming with all that.
13 Apr 2015 19:03:24
Nope, no, nah, nuh uh, no
13 Apr 2015 21:04:37
Ok for 1 amazing coaches and in NYI trade salary dump would be grabner and then lines would be
14 Apr 2015 00:05:00
None of those trades have a chance in hell
14 Apr 2015 14:51:29
nois why do you keep making thse random lines? that's liek the 3rd one I've seen and literally only maybe 4 players in each are in the right spot.
12 Apr 2015 12:20:28
Malkin will never waive his NTC in my opinion but if he miraculously dose I belive he can fetch something like this.
Pits= Malkin and fleury
Edm= Hall, leon draisaitl and 1st 2015[Hanfin]
This gives Edmonton a leader who can jump and be there franchise player. It also gives them a starter goalie. This gives pits a patental elite deffense man a future 1st/2nd line center and a elite scorer to give Crosby someone whom he can setup.
Edm may add a nice piece like Yak to sweetin the deal.
This trade only happens if they get out early in the playoffs.
13 Apr 2015 11:26:29
Cause Malkin would waive his no trade clause to go to Edmonton? Haha no
13 Apr 2015 16:10:51
If i'm edmonton it makes a ton of sense Malkin could play with Yakupov on his wing which would most likely jump start Yakupovs game and take him to a new level, then you could run Eberle and Nugent hopkins as your second line to create more scoring for edmonton. Fluery would represent a massive upgrade for edmonton in net.
For Pittsburgh it doesn't make much sense to me. Draisaitl is probably going to be an ahl forward next year or a 3rd line center. He needs time to grow into a second line center role. Hall is a nice piece but he get hurt so often it would scare me off of him a bit if i'm pitts. And hanifin could be solid down the road I think with the pick pittsburgh would take either strome or marner they already are loaded with young dman. All considered the package is full of too many prospects Crosby is in his prime which means the whole Pittsburgh team should be in a win now mode.
13 Apr 2015 17:20:27
wow umm, ok, that's wayy too much for malkin. its funny, over the coure of a week we've gone from horrible offers for malkin to gross overpayments. its all an exercise in futility anyways as malkin isn't leaving.
13 Apr 2015 19:04:53
Honestly maybe sounds about what they'd ask for Malkin but no way Edmonton does it. 1 step forward 2 steps back ya know
13 Apr 2015 20:39:49
edm needs to keep building. Their problem is that they have drafted the same player every year.
They need a pillar defenceman in the worst way and an NHL goalie
They should draft hanifin, trade for Lehner, Reimer, Lack/Miller.
Sign some vetren 3rd line checkers.
Also pitsburgh won't do that trade, Pitsburgh has a good core they just don't have supporting cast, also they are hampered by injury.
They need to sign santorelli, franson, and get matta and letang healthy again.
a team with Crosby and malkin always has a chance stuiped to break that up.
12 Apr 2015 08:14:02
Trades the leafs can make to create this so called culture change what they need to aquire are players that play with grit and fight. I feel like we need to keep on adding young pieces As well.
Tor: D Reinhart, D Pulock, CRW Strome, 1st in 2016
Nyi: RW Kessel, D Polak
Sj: Hertl, Dillon, 2nd in 2015
Tor: Stoner, 2nd in 2015
Tor:2nd in 2015, 3rd in 2015
Tor: 4th in 2015
Draft D. Strome
13 Apr 2015 16:33:40
buddy that phaneuf trade makes everything you say unbelievable. that trade ruins it all. your asking for a 2nd, a top 4 D and Hertl who has 1st line potential. that's a huge over payment for phaneuf. personally I think he could fetch hertl for sure but that's way to much, anaheim won't want lupul back. and won't trade a 2nd+cap dump for him, bozak can fetch more as well, you are getting rid of a lot of leadership i.e robidas, polak, lupul. how will you replace that for such a young line up?
13 Apr 2015 19:06:45
3,4,5 trades weren't bad. 1st trade is way off
13 Apr 2015 20:41:57
NYI is the perfect fit for kessel.
They are contenders and Taveres gets a wepon.
They have expendable assets reinhart, dalcole, strome
Kessel to the Islanders makes too much sense not to happen, Snow lost vanik last year he is still hungry for a eleite winger.
13 Apr 2015 21:09:10
Not bad but lines be like
12 Apr 2015 03:45:06
Ok Season is over according to the experts Major changes coming as soon as Monday.
No secret Horachek gone
Assistants Need to be gone as well New coach picks his staff not like the debacle that was created when they fired all of Carlyle's staff.
Nonis has to be gone his track record and signings have been pretty pathetic.
There will be lots of coaches available
Babcock, Blysma, Tippett perhaps,
GM's got to get someone who can handle the stress in T.O. and with a proven track record. Shanahan needs to step up as president here
As for players not much to happen until after the lottery etc. But any offers that may come across for Kessel, Phanuef, Lupul, Gardiner, They better listen. Free up cap space and rid themselves of Clarksonesque contracts
12 Apr 2015 17:59:48
well the coaches are gone and so is the gm. solid moves to start in my mind. In a perfect world Babcock would be our new head coach. Lots of talk of hiring Bruins gm Chirelli but i'm not sure he's the best fit considering the leafs are going to rebuild and need to give the players time to develop and he gave up on Seguin to early. Also he reminds me of Burkey in the way he values toughness over skill to often.
as for the players neither phanuef, kessel, lupul, gardiner have "clarksonesque" contracts because they are all still at least some what productive. I hope Lupul is the first person sent packing he is to injury prone, has a big contract, and has failed to produce enough. If they get anything decent for him even a low end prospect I would be happy. As for Kessel and Phanuef i'm sure they will get solid offers for them. Gardiner is going to be sticking around by all reports.
13 Apr 2015 16:35:23
gardiner has improved a lot this season, at least by the possession stats and other stats so don't bump him that much haha
11 Apr 2015 23:41:27
Toronto Trades this offseason:
Kessel to the Islanders
NYI: Kessel, Gardiner
Tor: Dalcole, Reinhart, Strome
Phaneuf To AVS
COL: Phaneuf, Polak
Lupul to Washington
Bozak 2nd/3rd rd pick to whoever needs a 2nd/3rd line center.
(DalCole, Gauthier, Brown stay with marlies) (D.Strome may move to 1st line center)
Reilly- (FA) (petry?)
(robidos is done, brewer is done, finn stays with marlies)
with bernier, JVR, Strome (s) nylander, dalcole, reinhart etc. the core of this team has changed, they are younger and deeper.
Looks good moving forward. Switch strome for mcDavid if they get lucky and this team is dangerous in 3 years.
12 Apr 2015 12:01:48
Bozak can bring in more than a 2nd rd pick
13 Apr 2015 00:00:18
I would love the leafs, islanders trade but I doubt it will happen
11 Apr 2015 19:22:07
Beau Bennett/nick spaling ottawa 1st round pick(from previous post)4 round pick for thomas vanek
11 Apr 2015 22:40:31
way too much for vanek
11 Apr 2015 19:14:41
kris letang, brandon sutter , 2nd round pick for joe pavelski
11 Apr 2015 22:40:22
I think too much for pavelski
11 Apr 2015 23:43:21
if i'm san jose I would say no. Pavelski has been their best forward the last couple of years and with both Thornton and Marleau almost done their careers the Sharks are going to lean on Couture and Pavelski.
Sutter is a third line center also which they already have Tierney for and Burns is a very offensive defenseman if they would do a trade like this i'm sure they would want someone with a better all around game then Letang to make up for Burns and also would want a player with a lot less of an injury history.
11 Apr 2015 19:13:29
Evgeni Malkin for Erik Karlsson. Mike hofmann,1st round pick 2015,
11 Apr 2015 22:40:05
No way. Just no. Karlsson
12 Apr 2015 00:18:31
That's a big no from Ottawa. Karlsson means a lot more to this team than Malkin ever could. Karlsson is a top 3 defenseman in the league (in my opinion he is the best) and Ottawa would be foolish to makes this trade. Ottawa needs to improve their D, not trade their best one away.
12 Apr 2015 08:35:01
@Stamkos16, if Pittsburgh decides to trade Evgeni Malkin they will guarantee a nice return. However, Erik Karlsson (one of the best Dman in the league despite his occasional poor defensive play) Mike Hoffman (nearly a 30 goal scoring rookie) and a 1st is a drastic overpayment.
12 Apr 2015 10:23:09
@sensfan27: the best? Just remember actually playing D is a part of being a DEFENSEman as well. Not just offense. I know he improved, but definitely not the best
12 Apr 2015 23:14:45
@Draisaitl he does play defense and he does it really well. He has the speed to catch almost any one in the league. He's quick with his stick to break up passes. He transitions the puck out of the zone like no one else in the league.
13 Apr 2015 17:35:46
Sure he isn't bad at it. But he's far from being as elite as for example Weber or Doughty are defensively. Therefore, he's superior offensively.
15 Apr 2015 03:24:16
What exactly does Weber and Doughty do better than Karlsson? They don't make risky plays? Is that what's makes them so elite? Cause that's all they do that Karlsson doesn't.
10 Apr 2015 19:50:05
From a realistic Pens fan:
To EDM: Evgeni Malkin, MAF
To PIT: 3rd overall, RNH
Malkin becomes the captain
Fleury is a veteran presence who can put up good numbers
Pittsburgh then swaps the 3rd overall, Beau Bennett and Brandon Sutter to CAR for the 5th overall, Jordan Staal and Jeff Skinner
Buy out Scuderi
Sign: (per year)
Martin - 3 yrs 5 mil
Niemi - 3 yrs 4 mil
Winnik - 3 yrs 2 mil
10 Apr 2015 20:56:48
why is kessle randomly in those lines? lol
10 Apr 2015 21:27:25
this post is terrible
All the trades are bad and like @Shankar said you add players that aren't even involved in the post
10 Apr 2015 22:47:09
Calm down TML Kessel is going to demand a trade to Pittsburg and there not going to get anything for him. Lol sound like any fans on this site?
10 Apr 2015 16:26:37
1st Round Pick 2015 (Nashville's)
If the Rumours are true that one of Crosby, Malkin, Letang, or Fleury are going to be Traded at the Draft I can see a Proposal like this interesting both Teams.
10 Apr 2015 17:08:30
I think you forgot to add Reilly, Toronto's 1st round pick 2015 and JVR
10 Apr 2015 17:37:18
leafs are overpaying wtf man
10 Apr 2015 17:47:45
pittsburgh says no ma'am
10 Apr 2015 18:16:45
This is horrible for Pittsburgh
10 Apr 2015 19:17:44
Amazing how so many of you under value the Leafs and over value every other Team, getting a Top 2 DMan, a 2 way Centre in Bozak plus a 1st Round Pick for Malkin is about right, the Stats for the Leaf Players are low this year because the Team was so bad, again too many under value the Leaf Players.
10 Apr 2015 20:53:47
Except Phaneuf has almost zero value. Bozak is a dime a dozen center. Not even close to being a good deal for Pitts
10 Apr 2015 21:01:42
man thers just o much worng wth this. firstly, there are no quantified rumours that any one of those players gets moved (if fact, i'd be willing to bet that they're all on PIT's roster starting next year), secondly, the cap wouldn't make sense for PIT, sure them may be able to fit it in depending on how much of an increase there is and ufa signings, etc, but why use up all the room to make a move that is totally unnecessay? inally, malkin is simply worth more than that, he's a top 5 player in the league and still is under 30, a low(ish) end 2c + #2 dman + low 1st isn't going to get you anything near malkin.
10 Apr 2015 21:12:54
Im a Leaf fan.
THE LEAFS CANNOT AND WILL NOT GET HIM WITHOUT GIVING UP
Rielly, JVR, or Nylander
10 Apr 2015 23:22:08
JVR, Rielly, Nylander will not be Traded unless its for Drafting McDavid or Eichel in a package.
Phaneuf and Bozak are not below average Players and a 1st Round Pick is something not nothing.
Again what I believe or anyone else believes it doesn't matter we aren't making the Trades
11 Apr 2015 14:45:49
undervalue? malkin is a top 5 player in the nhl think of it like this. would you trade stamkos , ovechkin . crosby or toews for that package?
11 Apr 2015 21:04:54
i thought this was a troll post at first,,,but he's serious,,,man well malkin is easily worth more than this. like everyone says he is a top 5 player in the league, and would get a top 5 pick, top prospect and a decent/good player (possibly a cap dump too). and the leafs aren't giving that up here.im too lazy to get into this further
14 Apr 2015 15:18:59
Is it just me or can you guys picture Eichel in a Toronto jersey?
09 Apr 2015 23:58:12
Chi: hossa, bickell, 3rd pick
10 Apr 2015 14:56:18
not bad but I dnt think chicago does this if it ain't broke dnt fix it
10 Apr 2015 16:02:41
the first one is a brutal trade for toronto at least Phanuef is productive.
The second does nothing for toronto cap wise or for the rebuild.
in my mind I don't think toronto would ever think about making move like this.
10 Apr 2015 16:31:58
Another MF masterpiece LOL
09 Apr 2015 22:15:49
Probably won't happen, Not sure of Value.
Rights to Dougie Hamilton
Smith,Jurco, 1st 2015 or 16
Boston gets to re-unite Smith Bros and a young forward in Jurco who can score. Plus a first.
Maybe Detroit adds a prospect like Sproul.
Too Much? Too Little?
Not sure of Hamilton's value
10 Apr 2015 00:33:39
I like it bc smith is ok and jurcos pretty good and probably pic in 16
10 Apr 2015 06:15:45
value is somewhat fair but Boston won't be trading dougie
10 Apr 2015 16:08:36
So a 2015 (or 2016) 1st, a former 1st (Brendan Smith) and an early 2nd (35th Tomas Jurco) for the Rights to Dougie Hamilton. I would imagine Peter Chiarelli would like that trade, Ken Holland not so much.
10 Apr 2015 16:34:15
Who cares when they were drafted none of those things except for maaaybe the first have as much value as Hamilton
10 Apr 2015 17:45:58
Smith could be a 2nd pairing D-man if he can find the right system and partner. Jurco has potential to be a 2nd line scorer. May be a little slow because he had to rush into NHL a little too soon. The 1st is a good way for Boston to add Youth.
Hamilton gives Detroit a large 6 foot 5 Right Handed D-man who can shoot and play solid in his own end.
09 Apr 2015 19:09:51
Since there is a lot of rumors going to start about Malkin being traded if Pens don't make playoffs.
I looked up the fact that Malkin's favorite NHL team growing up was the Detroit Red Wings. Partly due to his idolization of Sergei Fedorov.
So I am going to propose a Detroit-Pittsburgh trade. I am willing to listen to any comments on how to make it better. If I am off-target please just let me know. I don't really know Malkin's value considering his window is not as wide as a few years ago. If I undervalue him, it is not intentional. I believe both sides should get a fair value.
Ericsson, Smith, Jurco, 2015 1st, 2016 1st
Pittsburgh Trades: Malkin
Detroit may have to add and I know a lot of people will say add Larkin or Mantha. Larkin is a maybe but Pittsburgh is tight against the cap and Detroit is taking a large contract of their hands. Larkin plus the two 1sts seems like too much.
This probably is not enough but please offer your suggestions on what you think it should look like.I was trying to mimic the big trade the Rick Nash trade to the Rangers. I probably didn't match that well either.
Semin(Retain 2mill)7 mil-2 mill= 5 mill
Sign Mike Green
Please let me know your thoughts, I don't intend to undervalue any player and not 100% on Cap space. Please let me know what you think. Any help is appreciated.
09 Apr 2015 19:49:38
Definitely Mantha and/or Larkin would be involved in any sort of Malkin acquisition.
09 Apr 2015 21:06:29
some dipstick saying that malkin may be traded if the pens don't make the playoffs is not an actual rumour. malkin isn't going anywhere.
09 Apr 2015 22:06:46
I know Malkin may not be going anywhere, this was just a proposal if the rumor came true.
I think it would be Larkin before Mantha considering we have centers but a top big-body scoring winger like Mantha seems less likely in comparison.
Not sure though, however Malkin is really good but Crosby is better and would guarantee a Larkin or Mantha. Malkin isn't worth as much so not sure if they are needed. It was a question I was considering, wanted to hear opinion.
09 Apr 2015 22:19:49
Malkin has a Modified NTC and can decide to go to any team he wants and Detroit could be a viable choice for Malkin which is why I proposed a trade.
It may not be enough for Penguins but Malkin could force the GM to trade him to Detroit and Detroit only if he wanted.
The getting of Semin in the 2nd deal is to give him new hope playin with a fellow Russian which might spark a comeback like when he played with Ovechkin in Washington.
10 Apr 2015 00:35:36
defnitley not enough for a great player like malkin
10 Apr 2015 16:29:52
I am going to put together two trades by Datsyuk_Fan13 and let the readers decide about the fairness of both of them. This one seemed to receive mostly positive responses:
Rights to Dougie Hamilton to Detroit for Smith,Jurco, 1st 2015 or 16
This one not so much:
Detroit Trades Ericsson, Smith, Jurco, 2015 1st, 2016 1st to Pittsburgh for Malkin
So Hamilton is worth Smith, Jurco, 2015 1st
Adam McQuaid is reasonably equal to Ericsson
Therefore putting all of the pieces together, Boston trades Hamilton, McQuaid and 2016 1st to PIT for Malkin.
So who thinks this is a fair trade?
IMO Chiarelli would kill to make that trade. What do all of the readers think?
10 Apr 2015 17:37:58
That value may be fair, not sure though. So better take someone else's opinion on if this is fair.
However, why would Boston trade for Malkin when they already have Bergeron and Kreijci down the middle.
Boston would probably prefer wingers or defensive depth.
11 Apr 2015 02:18:11
Also, Adam McQuaid is not a reasonable comparison to Jonathan Ericsson.
McQuaid = bottom pairing Dman
Ericsson = top pairing Dman
11 Apr 2015 18:21:45
LOL what? jonathan ericcson a top pair defenseman? wow, he's like # 5 guy, calm down with that ericsson love.
09 Apr 2015 04:04:52
Would either Carl Hagelin or Matt Nieto look good on the wing with Roy and Yakupov?
Offer Martin Marincin and maybe our 2015 33rd pick.
Or a long shot but Brandon Saad or Ondrej Palat. I don't even know where to start but
2015 1st (PIT)
2016 1st (EDM)
09 Apr 2015 09:12:13
Thanks, but the Triplets stay togehter.
09 Apr 2015 09:13:40
Although the price is good. If I'm EDM I wouldn't offer my 2016 1st. Could easily be a top 5 pick again.
As good as Palat and Saad are, a potential top 5 pick, another 1st, a good D prospect and another prospect might be a bit too much from an Oiler standpoint.
09 Apr 2015 16:52:01
Yeah but since I'm an Oil fan I'm counting on them being out of the top 10. And I don't know what our prospect pool is like, aside from Nurse and Draisaitl, I don't think its that good. As for Marincin I like him but if we draft Hanifin we'll have Klefbom, Nurse, Hanifin and Marincin as LHD.
09 Apr 2015 17:51:09
the oilers are going to be a bottom five team again next year unless they blow up their roster, they have yet to show that they can be a playoff team.
09 Apr 2015 19:03:03
Yeah your probably right but hey they finished the year like a bottom team but not bottom 5. The west is a tougher conference but there's going to be a few teams rebuilding in the east that might finish below Edmonton. I think they might actually take a chance on a real goalie next season no more third string goalies.
09 Apr 2015 22:08:33
Might get Nieto or Hagelin but would still need to add a little.
No chance on Palat, Saad maybe since cap space for Blackhawks is tough but it doesn't seem likely considering Sharp or Bickell would be gone first.
09 Apr 2015 23:13:48
Hagelin's an Rfa and there's not a very good chance he gets resigned with Stepan and St. Louis being Ufa's. And I didn't think Nieto's value was too high. Marincin has decent value and so does that early 2nd.
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