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24 Apr 2017 14:55:16
WPG: Little
PHI: Schenn

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24 Apr 2017 14:59:48
Sideways move? Both say no?

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24 Apr 2017 00:59:52
Phi: Braydon Schenn or Sean Coutourier

Montreal: Max Pac

Montreal gets a center that they desperately need and Max may be expendable after his horrid playoff performance. Meanwhile Max would be the Perfect top line LW for Claude Giroux one of the best Playmakers with one of the best snipers also factor in They are opposite handed. It would be an almost perfect line.

Who adds? Just a base not sure of either players values but I'd say Schenn is worth more then Couts

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24 Apr 2017 02:23:06
I wouldn't trade Pacioretty for those guys. if anything, Habs need to bring someone in to play center with him. he's a good player, had a lousy playoff forsure. but Habs need to get him some help. he's had Danault and Desjarnais as his centers. The guy who needs a change is Galchenyuk, but I wouldn't trade him to Philly, i'm still sore about John LeClair/ Eric Desjardins/ Gilbert Dionne for Mark Recchi. don't wanna be bit in the ass by Flyers again. lol.

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24 Apr 2017 03:36:00
Who adds?
Obviously Philly.

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24 Apr 2017 03:58:32
I would say Schenn for Pacioretty is fair considering age as well. Couturier is good too but Montreal needs offense so I think Schenn would be a better fit. What about Giroux to Montreal for Galchenyuk and a couple other pieces? Montreal gets a true #1 French- Canadian center and I think Philadelphia would be still be ok down the middle.

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24 Apr 2017 07:13:04
schenn > patches.

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24 Apr 2017 09:31:02
why does phi do this? What's in it for them.

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24 Apr 2017 10:38:14
I litterly explained why colt Patchs plays top line with Giroux and makes a deadly line. And Sosa the only way I see that happening is if they trade for Duchene.

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23 Apr 2017 22:17:58
Bruins give- spooner, Hayes, belesky and 2nder
Nashville gives- Wilson, Watson, jarnkrok

Bruins get 3 good young choices to have a solid 3rd/ 4th lines maybe one of them could play with Pasternak

Nashville gets 1 player who needs a new home and two players who who are good but are just in a slump and a 2 rounder if those two players don't work out but all three players are good players to put on 3rd/ 4th lines

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24 Apr 2017 01:05:55
Lol no from Nashville. Belesky and Hayes have no value., if argue belesky is negative with his contract.

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24 Apr 2017 07:26:19
maybe change the 2nd to the 1st but highly doubt nashville would do this.

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24 Apr 2017 15:01:20
Nashville is doing just fine with the players they have. Easy no man.

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23 Apr 2017 18:24:17
Arizona: Voracek (82GP/ 20G/ 41A/ 61P) 7 yrs @ $8.25MM
Philadelphia: 1st 2017 Minnesota, 2nd 2018 Minnesota, Deangelo, Crouse (72GP/ 5G/ 7A/ 12P) ELC

Philadelphia does it for cap reasons, gain a solid LW prospect and RHD prospect. Simmonds can easily play 1st line LW.

Arizona does it because they have cap room and to not to ice a team full of propsects. Voracek would become the top point scorer on a team that was 27 in GF last season. Arizona also wouldn't be giving up any roster players making significant offensive contributions. Arizona would also retain their own 1st round pick in 2017.

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23 Apr 2017 18:46:41
I'm not aware of Voracek's contract. Is that his legit contract or is that just what you're saying he should be at.

Because if that's truly his contract dear god that's brutal.

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23 Apr 2017 19:31:16
Yup, that's voracek's real contract. He signed it after he had that one great year
with 50 assists and 85 points or whatever a couple of years back.

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23 Apr 2017 22:03:39
Why would Arizona want Voracek especially with such a bad contract? If Voracek can barely get 60 points with Giroux and Simmonds/ Schenn he will get like 40 points on the Cayotes.

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24 Apr 2017 06:20:58
That's the worst contract omg haha what was Philly thinkin.

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24 Apr 2017 07:25:35
hell no from arizona. if their gm did this they'd be fired on the spot.

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23 Apr 2017 16:26:41
Oilers: RNH + Eberle
Canes: Faulk + Lindholm

Oilers get a right hand dman and 3rd line right hand centre. Also, clear cap space!

Canes are deep in dman.
Canes get a 2nd line centre after Stall. canes get a right wing which they also need.
They get two players already playing together.

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23 Apr 2017 16:34:43
Carolina would want a top line player for Faulk.

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23 Apr 2017 18:48:38
Well you're getting 2 former top line players who were there for 5 years a piece. Lol not to mention a 23 year old center and a scorer, but whose cooled down this year.

Not justifying that this is good for Carolina. I would take this trade haha, but I was just saying.

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23 Apr 2017 22:05:19
No from Carolina.

Lindholm > Eberle (not simply all about points just his 200 foot game in general)
RHN.

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23 Apr 2017 22:34:22
Don't mean to trash them embrace but Eberle rn is at best a mediocre 2nd line player and RNH is a solid 2nd line defensive centre. I would think for a youngish RH top pairing d man they'd want a legit scoring threat (probably a centre) that is youngish.

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23 Apr 2017 22:55:56
Take out Lindholm then possibly.

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24 Apr 2017 01:07:31
Huge pass from Canes for sure. I wouldn't trade Faulk for both, seems like there are better ways to spend $12Million, also wouldn't trade Lindholm for either I'm Carolina aswell.

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24 Apr 2017 03:55:02
Definite no from the Canes.

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24 Apr 2017 07:25:06
i doubt either team would do this. edmonton could get more trading them seperately and carolina could get more from faulk alone let lone both those players. edmonton would have to add at least a 1st if carolina would even consider this.

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24 Apr 2017 15:13:21
Oilers are fine as is and do not need to trade.
No from Edmonton.

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23 Apr 2017 16:25:49
This will never happen but its interesting and tricky trade.

Ok this is a big deal. A little confusing.

4 team trade.

Chicago - Vancouver - Arizona - Toronto

TO

Blackhawks - D. Sedin
- H. Sedin
- Kalinin (from Tor)

Canucks - Seabrook
- Burmistrov
- Lupul

Coyotoes - Hossa

Leafs - Kruger

lots of pieces and money.

Have at it GMs

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23 Apr 2017 17:29:58
So.

Vancouver trades D. Sedin + H. Sedin in exchange for Seabrook + Burmistrov + Lupul
Hell no from Vancouver. The twins are getting traded for younger pieces, not a usless Lupul, an old Seabrook and a bust of Burmistrov

Chicago trades Seabrook + Hossa + Kruger in exchange for Sedin + Sedin + Kalinin.
No from Chicago, and yes. The Sedins are worse but are on term for less. So idrk. Chicago does dump cap, so is a possibility.

Arizona trades Burmistrov in exchange for Hossa.
HELL YEAH FROM ARIZONA. Hossa isn't playing out his term. he's probabky playing 2-3 more years max. But still, 2-3 years more from Hossa is worth way more than whatever Burmistrov will do in a depth role.

Toronto trades Kalinin + Lupul in exchange for Kruger
As a leaf fan, i take that any day of the week. Kruger may be on the books for longer, but Kalinin is nothing and Lupul is negative value. Kruger can play the fourth line, something that Toronto needs after Boyle leaves. But this part definetly favours the Leafs.

All in all, it just seems like Vancouver and Chicago get screwed, and Arizona and Toronto make off with spoils.

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24 Apr 2017 01:08:11
Seabrook has one of the worst contracts, his mobility is almost gone. Zero interest in Seabrook.

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24 Apr 2017 07:22:44
there's so much wrong with this. i don't even know where to start.
1) chicago says no, even though we lose a rubbish load of cap with kruger, seabrook and hossa, it's not worth taking sedin twin salary.
2) vancouver's in a rebuild so why would they want seabrook, lupul and burmistrov? burmistrov is the only one that would be worth while, even then they aren't getting their money's worth out of the deal.
3) toronto would be getting a decent deal getting rid of lupul's contract and getting kruger who could help 4th line
4) arizona taking hossa's contract would be nice and would help them reach the cap floor but they could just use that money to pay their youunger guys more
5) it's extremely rare to see a 3 way trade, let lone a 4 way trade. correct me if i'm wrong but i don't remember there ever being a 4 way trade.

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23 Apr 2017 04:15:21
This is a base..

Galchenyuk to NJ
Kovalchuks rights to Habs.

Any possibility?? What else would have to happen.

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23 Apr 2017 05:00:32
Please tell me this is a troll post.

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23 Apr 2017 05:17:50
Nope Galchenyuks bridge contract is up, he's going to wanna get paid. And he's jus not worth what he's going to want. I know its not ideal sending him for a 33 or 34 ( not sure of age) . that's why i said just a base.
Id rather see him go to Tampa in a deal for Drouin, but that isn't going to happen. Maybe to Edmonton for RNH, that would be ideal. I jus wanna see him gone at this point. Lol.

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23 Apr 2017 08:39:02
Don't think Montreal would do this.
Galchenyuk is getting better every year while Kovalchuk is getting worse every year.

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23 Apr 2017 09:38:18
Kovalchuck hasn't made much suggestion for an NHL return and likely will have a load of problems with him trying to get back in. Not too mention age.

Galchenyuk may cost too much for the Habs to keep him as you say but for one they could do better then Kovalchuck and trade for a current NHL player. Although if he is becoming contract risky, I'm not sure he could warrant a Drouin trade. Maybe RNH but even then I'm not sure. Hard to gauge value but I would say it's pretty low since he was playing 4th line on a team who just got eliminated in round 1. Not exactly killer value but does have high upside and could use a change of scenery.

As a Wings fan, I would love another Russian Center in Galchenyuk in Detroit. However we may not be able to pay what Habs want and also the division rivals thing. So more likely a pipe dream.

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23 Apr 2017 09:41:23
Also since your being serious here, New Jersey takes this and runs for the hills.

Montreal then fires their GM for one of the worst trades because Kovalchuck likely won't comeback for long if at all.

Therefore unrealistic in the deal itself, NJ clear winners and MTL clear losers. Will likely never happen.
However Galchenyuk being moved is a possibility, just not in this type of deal.

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23 Apr 2017 16:21:58
I heard it last night when Maclean and the boys were talking.
I agree its pretty horrible. Lol. Maybe my emotions got the beat of me. lol
However, if there is any chance Habs could make some sort of deal to get him., i'd be happy with that.

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23 Apr 2017 18:49:16
This is just stupid. I wouldn't trade gal straight up for a 34 year old.

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23 Apr 2017 19:18:36
It is stupid. lol. but I didn't wnat it straight up. more like a base
. Some of the pieces, I thought of were Galchenyuk, Beaulieu. Henrique Kovalchuk. ECT.
But ya., I clearly didn't think this through . Lol. last night was not a good night for this Habs fan. Lol.

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23 Apr 2017 21:10:27
Kovalchuck has said he wants to come back to the NHL next year. And that NJ would most likely sign and trade him. Yet another kinda interesting storyline to follow this year. Add to the many. Haha.

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23 Apr 2017 01:33:39
Toronto: 2017 2nd round pick and Kerby Rychel

Vancouver: Erik Gudbranson

I really think this trade works for both teams. Toronto gets a top 4 penalty killing defenseman. Vancouver gets a young winger with size and physicality and another draft pick.

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23 Apr 2017 05:06:17
This is interesting but I'm not sure Gudbranson is the solution to Toronto's D-problems. Toronto also got Rychel for the purpose of going towards rebuild. So I don't think they want to trade their young forwards like Rychel yet.

Value wise, I think it's close. Maybe a 3rd instead of 2nd.

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23 Apr 2017 14:33:39
Leafs need a better defenceman than Erik Gudbranson.
Your value is fine for this trade, but if the Leafs wanna be serious contenders next year they'll need at least one more really good top 4 d-man. Gudbranson kinda just a number 4 d-man. Nothing more nothing less.

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23 Apr 2017 01:27:19
2012 Top 15 Re-Draft
(based on needs only)

Edmonton (1) Shayne Gostisbehere
Columbus (2) Alex Galchenyuk
Montreal (3) Filip Forsberg (centre)
New York (4) Matt Murray
Toronto (5) Colton Parayko
Anaheim(6) Morgan Reilly
Minnesota(7) Matt Dumba
Pittsburgh(8) Hamphus Lindholm
Winnipeg(9) Frederick Andersen
Tampa Bay(10) Andrey Vasilevskiy
Washington(11) Tomas Hertl
Buffalo (12) Tom Wilson
Dallas(13)Olli Maatta
Buffalo (14) Ryan Murray
Ottawa(15) Jaccob Slavin

Any corrections?

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23 Apr 2017 02:10:48
Any particular reason you picked 2012?

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23 Apr 2017 02:27:31
I'll take Lindholm over Dumba and Tom Wilson should be dropped to 15th.

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23 Apr 2017 02:34:20
Lots of corrections. Where's Trouba and Skjei?

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23 Apr 2017 03:41:30
Probably still way too early for this.

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23 Apr 2017 04:03:23
Well. why Columbus would take Galchenyuk over Forsberg is beyond me. and Ghost first? i'd rather have Reilly or Parayko or Hampus Lindholm.
After this playoffs, i'd almost rather anyone on that list than Galchenyuk.

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23 Apr 2017 07:32:38
Wtf are you saying man. Ghost going first? Yeah right. Pretty obvious Oilers should take Forsberg first. Doesn't even fit the needs.
Don't need another LHD we want a super star sniper who shoots right.

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23 Apr 2017 08:41:19
@McJesus

And please tell me how a center fits their needs? Remeber, Forsberg was drafted as a center.

Gostisbehere will help edmonton on the PP. Puck moving defenceman is what they need. Sekera/ Klefbom is the closest thing to that and that's just not good enough.

''Going first'' It's not even going first in my re-draft. Based on needs and not on skill.

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23 Apr 2017 03:37:47
Parayko is better than ghost Murray trust me from all the chatter around the Internet edm would rather have parayko than ghost.

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23 Apr 2017 11:55:14
Ghost imo doesn't go first.

He broke out, and had a sophomore slump. I think that he'd be around 5/ 6/ 7 in my books, but not 1.

Lindholm is also >>> Dumba

If you count Forsberg as a centre, than Forsberg is definetly better than Galcnheyuk.

And I'd definetly take Murray, Slavin and Maatta ovee a tough guy like Wilson.

Also, wheres Jacob Trouba?

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23 Apr 2017 00:58:33
Could Tatar to Edmonton possibly work?

Tatar-McDavid-Draisaitl

As much as I love Maroon, he obviously isn't a first line winger. Maybe not even a second line winger.

Detroit rebuilding could use Edmonton's first and something like Tyler Benson/Reinhart?

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23 Apr 2017 02:19:52
Benson just can never get healthy. Reinhart is not looking like he will make it. Tatar is a good target though.

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23 Apr 2017 03:40:41
Benson/ Reinhart? Reinhart has like no value dude, Oil best off keeping him.

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23 Apr 2017 05:14:40
Tatar to Edmonton could work, however Benson/ Reinhart aren't worth Tatar. If Detroit trades Tatar it's for a good young Top 4 D or a really nice Defense prospect.

Personally I like something around Caleb Jones plus or maybe something around RNH as well. Detroit is trying to get Younger so that would be the ideal.

Basically Tatar to Edmonton is going to be centered around better players and won't be sold for cheap. I'm not saying it's straight up for RNH but value added from either side to make it fair.

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23 Apr 2017 07:33:22
Oilers don't need Tatar. Would rather have someone else.

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23 Apr 2017 08:42:43
@ McJesus

Please explain why we wouldn't need Tatar?

@Datsyuk

Detroit didn't even resign him. He is a pending RFA.

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23 Apr 2017 09:30:54
Tatar is not going to be traded unless it fulfills a need at young top 4 Dman or a very nice prospect/ young roster player. So if Edmonton isn't interested in Tatar for that price then we can look elsewhere. Just saying that Reinhart/ Benson won't cut it. There is potential for a deal here if it fills both teams needs. Trading Tatar without fulfilling a need of fair value is useless.



@TysonBarrie

There is still time for Detroit to re-sign him and like you said it's an RFA. Not a UFA so Detroit could still re-sign him and probably will. Detroit does have cap issues but I believe we can figure something out for Tatar. Holland is loyal to a fault so Tatar will be re-signed or if not traded similar to the Brandon Saad trade. Not saying Saad and Tatar are equal value but that type of deal would be the scope of possibility should he not be re-signed, which he probably will though. So Detroit isn't going to just give him away. Sheahan on the other hand sure Lol.

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24 Apr 2017 15:39:26
McJC is correct.
Tatar is not required. Depth D and a center with a high faceoff percentage are all the upgrades needed at this time.
Don't see Detroit letting him go for prospects anyways. RFA status, he'll be looking for a good raise soon enough and I don't think the Oilers can commit the Salary needed to keep him until McD names his price.

Borge
Morgan Reilly and Ryan Murray couldn't stay healthy either at the start of their careers. It's a crap shoot as to players health. The Hernia Benson had is something that won't be a career hindering injury.

Datsyk
Detroit is already in cap trouble, taking on RNH's 6 mill wouldn't work unless = or more salary is shed in the deal.

Kronwell + Tatar or Green + 1st rounder or other age and contract term compensation would be the price for RNH
Salary in has to be less than salary out for Kronwell + Tatar
Green's age is an issue which needs to be offset by the 1st etc to go with him.

Detroit needs to look at Salary cap problems as much as players coming back at the current time so complaining about any talent levels in and out is kinda irrelivent at this time.

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