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02 Sep 2014 15:49:25
to sjs: chara marchand paille + prospect
to bos: marlou retain 1.5m burns retian 1.5m
to edm: boychuck marrow 2nd(becomes 3rd if her resigns in edm)
to bos: perron
trade kelly to any for 3rd
trade bartkowski to any for 3rd
sign smith plus krug to 5 year 20 milion dollar deals
sign gagne to a 1 year 1.5m dollar deal
sign penner to a 1 year 1.5m dollar deal
02 Sep 2014 03:34:03
Just a thought for the Bruins to do a shake up with there roster.
To Boston Marleau, Burns
To San Jose: Chara, Marchand, Morrow, 3rd rounder
To Edmonton: Boychuk, 2015 second and 4th round pick (becomes third if he resigns)
To Boston: Perron
Kelly to anybody for a 3rd
Paille to anybody for a 3rd
Bartkowski to anybody for a 3rd
Sign Krug and Smith to 5 year $20 Million a season deals
($4 Million a season)
Cap relief from Marc Savard
This leaves Boston just under the cap
02 Sep 2014 01:31:10
I honestly think bobby ryan is heading to the flyers or sticking with the sens
Since melnyk is extremely cheap and maybe one of the poorest gms in the league so I say they deal him.
While shopping Ben bishop a few years ago the sens were negotiating a deal with philly and were asking for couturier in return so I think the sens will ask for couturier again.
Could this work?
Bobby ryan , Eric gryba and second rp 2015
Sean couturier and Braydon corburn
02 Sep 2014 12:51:27
Melnyk isn't the poorest GM in the league he is the cheapest. He's a billionaire, which is why him having an internal budget is more infuriating. As for the trade,not bad but make that before the season starts if Ryan isn't re-signed.
I doubt this would work philly gets hosed
01 Sep 2014 23:15:46
To Boston: Petry, Arcobello, 3rd Round Pick 2015
To Edmonton: Boychuk
02 Sep 2014 14:31:35
Well if u want to make edm have even less centre depth
01 Sep 2014 22:58:09
Sens trade Bobby Ryan
Blackhawks trade Patrick Sharp
[just the base of a trade, may need picks / prospects going either way]
Stars trade 2015 4th & 5th
Blackhawks trade Johnny Oduya
01 Sep 2014 21:13:21
Zdeno Chara for Ville Rask, Andrej Sekera and a 2015 2nd or 3rd
01 Sep 2014 19:33:16
Edmonton trades Petry, Shultz, Eberle, B+ prospect, 2016 and 2017 1st round picks or 2015 1st pick and 2016 and 2017 2nd round picks for Shea Webber
Edmonton gets the top 2 dmen they have been searching for who can also bring leadership. Might be an over payment but for a top 3 dman and best DFD you have to give up a lot.
Nashville gets a 60-85 PPG RW that an offense deprived team could really use, a young OFD in Shultz who can play top 4 and solid all around top 4 dmen in Petry as well as high picks and prospect.
I would say eberle 2015 1st and schultz would be enough
01 Sep 2014 21:13:42
thats too much for weber tbh
Way to much for weber. And Eberle is definatley not a 60 point per game player. Lol
Massive overpayment for Weber especially considering how high those 1st round picks could be even with Weber on the team
Waaaaaaaaay too much for Weber. Some of you people think he's the greatest player of all time or something with these ridiculous trades.
01 Sep 2014 22:38:15
I think that's too much for Weber.
You could be right when you're saying that's what the Preds are prolly going to want for him, but personally, I wouldn't give up all that for Weber.
WAAAY TOO MUCH! Weber isn't instantly going to win Edmonton a cup . Giving up young studs and many what I think would be high picks is way too much!
What you (the person sitting at the computer) would trade that much for Weber and what the Preds would want for Weber (not saying they would want this exact trade) are too very different things.
01 Sep 2014 19:26:11
Edmonton trades Petry, 2nd round in 2015 and B level prospect to Toronto for Nazem Kadri.
Edmonton gets their second line center who can play wing when Draistal is ready to take that role or play 3rd line center and give edmonton depth down the middle.
Toronto gets an underrated top 4 D man IMO and a player who will have more of an impact on improving TOR then 37 year old Robidas. Gives Toronto more D depth as well.
Toronto says no
Who's the B level prospect? Anyways I would probably do it from a leafs standpoint.
01 Sep 2014 22:39:30
IMO, a top4 dmen, 2nd rd pick in a deep draft and a B prospect is too much for Kadri.
Thats not bashing him or anything, but Petry and a B prospect should clearly be enough
I can't see this happening.The leafs need kadri. Toronto doesn't have the center depth to trade kadri away IMO
Arcobello instead of the prospect because Toronto is also hurting for center depth.
Why would toronto move kadri and create a bigger hole up the middle.which b prospect.
02 Sep 2014 11:36:26
Toronto should just keep Kadri. He will be a consistent 50-60 point player on the 2nd line. He just needs to change his on ice behaviour (back checking, going into the corners etc. ) which is easily fixable. There's no doubt he has the skill to be a great player he just needs to mature defensively and he will be a solid piece for the leafs moving forward.
01 Sep 2014 18:20:06
to tbl: chara erikkson kelly 2015 3rd
to bos: callahan strolman
01 Sep 2014 18:41:11
1. No way this works with the cap.
2. TB has 0 need for Kelly
3. I'd say both teams won't do that.
I think Tampa wins that deal
Callahan>eriksson,3rd I don't think Kelly has much value or use for Tampa so maybe they flip him to edm for something like they did with gagner for example and then this could work under the cap after ohlund is put on LTIR by Tampa.
Horrible. Horrible for Boston
it works very well with the cap we free up around 3m I will say they have no need for kelly but they can trade him
02 Sep 2014 16:38:04
It works very well with the cap for BOS, but not for TB.
TB adds over 4m/yr, and will only be like 2 under the cap AFTER LTIRing Ohlund.
01 Sep 2014 18:16:37
huge blockbuster trad very unlikely but I would like it
to wpg chara marchand erikkson kelly subban 2015 2nd
to bos:kane ladd frolik bogasian
Both teams say no
01 Sep 2014 18:06:37
chara should go it can help our cap situation and get a good return something like
to buf: chara kelly paille 2015 4th
to bos: gorges and gionta + prospect
dal: chara kelly paille
bos: hemsky daley +prospect
edm: chara kelly 2015 4th
bos: fayne purcell
next 2 are stretches
lak: chara paille kelly 2015 2nd
bos: gaborik greene
nyr: chara marchand kelly 2015 3rd
bos: mcdonogh nash
pit: chara kelly 2015 3rd
bos: ehroff dupios
sjs: chara, marchand
stl: chara kelly
bos: shattenkirk tarasenko
tbl:chara 2015 1st 2016 5th
van: chara kelly 2015 3rd
Bos: edler, burrows
that it lmk what u think
That rangers trade.lol
You really don't like chara
So you're saying that Callahan is worth more than shattenkirk and tarasenko combined?
i agree more should be added to shattenkirk and tarasenko deal but I think tbl is more unwilling to part ways with callahand than stl is with tarasenko and shattenkirk
01 Sep 2014 17:48:17
This takes off a chunk of salary for Chicago and also gives depth. If Chicago were to trade Oduya or Leddy to free up even more cap Wiercioch could replace them in the lineup. Ottawa gets a two-way too six forward that can score
No way chicago does this.
You won't get a 80 pts player for bottom paring defensman and bottom 3 players
I cannot believe you actually posted this
SHARP WONT BE TRADED FOR SCRAPS
Make it a 2016 first. And to Cd1, Sharp is only an 80 point player because he plays with Toews and Hossa all year.
Nova x 65
01 Sep 2014 17:13:58
Why? Granberg sucks and takes too much cap. Leafs trade him while they have the chance.
01 Sep 2014 17:58:35
you're not funny, sorry.
01 Sep 2014 18:47:34
Can't tell if you're serious but if you are, i'd rethink your proposal. Yeah granberg played one nhl game, but that game that he played, he was one of the best responsible defenceman on the ice. he's a very good dfd.
01 Sep 2014 17:04:30
WSH: Weiss, 2nd
CGY: Backlund, Brodie, 1st
EDM: Eller, Fucale, Scherbak, 1st
No way mtl gives all that for yakupov and cbj would want more for johansen
The top 2 r decent offers, the bottom one I awful
01 Sep 2014 17:59:45
1. seems good, maybe rather a 3rd, but it's fine
2. Good start, considering the CAL pick is most likely a top 8 pick, maybe add another low pick/prospect
3. I think it's a bit too much for Yakupov.
I wouldn't give scherbak & Fucale up alone for Yakapov.
01 Sep 2014 16:07:00
Replying to my last post regarding trading Zdeno Chara.
Even though being past his prime, his value is still respectable, and teams would be interested. A team like San Jose gearing up for a cup run perhaps?
BOS: Marleau, 3rd Round Pick 2015
SJS: Chara, Marchand
BOS: Marleau, Burns
I thought of this and found it intriguing.
Chara would vastly improve the defensive game of the Sharks, Marleau would vastly improve the offense. Chara is still a potential Norris winner at 35+ years, quite impressive. Marleau can still put up great numbers (60-70 points)
Marleau and Chara are comparable ages as well.
I find the proposal interesting, comparable ages but depends on the state of both franchises, if the Sharks' defence struggles, and the Bruins' offence struggles. You could see a big trade.
Good ideas but San Jose ain't moving Burns
IMO Boston adds. Marleau and Chara are probably close in value with a slight edge to Chara, but Burns is quite a bit better than Marchand. SJS probably wants another young D, but NOT Krug or Hamilton. Maybe Morrow.
01 Sep 2014 17:36:31
Personally, I feel like these are way better proposals.
Marleau is very good, just as Chara as, and as you pointed out, quite old as well.
Although I don't really like the Bruins, I think Burns would be a great fit for them, good job.
I believe they would move Burns if an upgrade is possible. I like the swap of Burns, Marleau for Chara and Marchand because.
San jose gets younger at forward, but older on defense
Boston gets younger on defense, gets older at forward.
Plus Boston would get a replacement for Chara, San Jose gets a replacement for Marleau.
I find it's pretty even, definitely would be a cool trade nonetheless
^i agree old for old good post lol
01 Sep 2014 15:37:26
instead of always writing about tradin our best and most valuable centre why don't we just trade desharnais (less value) but then give PLekanec good wingers and hell have 60 plus points not to mention actually score 20 goals every year.
Desharnais - Monrteal
Stewart _ Bufallo
Desharnais + REway - montreal
Semin - carolina
As a Habs fan, I WISH!! But teams want Plekanec because of his versatility and Desharnais relies on his wingers to do everything.
Desharnais relies on his wingers to do everything?
Watch Desharnais in a game. He is the one always setting up the play so his wingers can put the puck in the net and if you disagree with me then you obviously don't watch the habs as much as me.
Desharnais doesn't rely on his wingers any more then any other center in the league.
01 Sep 2014 15:34:48
tyler myers - buffalo
Jared Tinordi, Greg Patyrn, +1st and conditional 2nd
Salary cap disagrees
Tinordi is going to be a solid top 4 Dman for many years. And Paytren is improving year after year.
01 Sep 2014 07:11:00
Flyers trade Lecavalier, rights to Gustafsson, and a pick for David Perron. Flyers get a much needed LW, Oilers get a 2nd center and good, young puck moving defender. Gustafsson is in KHL this year, but I'm sure would come back next year for the Oilers.
Flyers then trade Grossmann and a pick for Cody Franson. Stay at home defender for offensive minded defender. Franson has the physical style of play to thrive in Philadelphia.
Re-sign Del Zotto, Franson, Schultz, and Emery, call up Laughton, and here is what the 2015 Flyers would look like:
Perron - Giroux - Voracek
Umberger - Schenn - Simmonds
Raffl - Couturier - Read
Akeson - Laughton - Rinaldo
Scratch: Rosehill, White
Streit - Coburn
MacDonald - Franson
Del Zotto - Schenn
Your undervaluing both the players that you are trading for especially Perron
01 Sep 2014 16:34:58
Lecavlier couldn't be given away let alone for Perron I'm not sure he is an upgrade of a player over arcobello
No way these trades happen, your lines are a joke Akeson will be on 3rd line over raffl and Laughton isn't going to be on the 4th line you can't develop a prospect on 4th line minutes
@slapshot18 there was once a player called Joe Thornton that was on the bruins fourth line and still racks up 40+ assists a season. and ya the left wingers are messed up
Akeson 2nd line
Umberger 3rd line
Raffl 4th line
01 Sep 2014 05:30:01
Just a weird though. What if Zdeno Chara really got traded. I read another post that 50/50 makes sense.
But his career is mostly going to end in Boston. But. What if.
To Carolina: Zdeno Chara,
To Boston: Keegan Lowe, Andrej Sekera 2015 3rd.
Chara might be old, but he is still a very effective defenseman. Carolina might be giving up too much though for a 37 year old defenseman that has 7m cap.
But he can serve well for Carolina. And they might make the playoffs. Not saying that Chara fills all of their roster holes. But might help bigtime on defense.
I totally understand if you think its not enough for Zdeno Chara. But face it. He is a 37 year old with lots of cap. And I also agree if you think its too much for Chara. A B/B- prospect. Decent top 4. And a 3rd that might turn out early.
Not even close to enough for the Big Z. Sure he isn't as good as he used to be but he's still arguably a top 5 D man in the NHL
Only way you get Chara is by adding a top 6 forward and a top 3 defenseman who can play 20 minutes a game
^ that's probably why they won't trade him bc there are not going to be any teams willing to give up a top 6 forward a top 3 d-man for a 37year old.
01 Sep 2014 05:29:38
To Carolina: Oscar Klefbom, Martin Gernat, 2015 5th/6th
To Edmonton: Ville Rask, Keegan Lowe
Edmonton has plenty of defensive prospects that can take Klefbom's spot. Its a prospect for prospect trade so it might not happen. Keegan Lowe comes to his hometown.
Who adds? Who subtracts?
Canes add quite a bit. Klefbom and Gernat are the 2 best prospects in this deal
31 Aug 2014 23:53:02
Montreal will ruin tokarski if they play him in the AHL again and no one wants budaj so this is the solution, also he won't be part of a kane trade because montreal has barely any cap and they will need to give up galchenyuk, which bergevin will NOT do! he's our future centre!
01 Sep 2014 04:24:37
i don't see how another year in the AHL would "ruin" tokarski.
Value seems fair IMO but I have a hard time seeing wpg moving high picks at the moment.
No one in Montreal wants to keep Budaj, but every other team would prefer you to keep him. Easier competition.
Tokarski lands a 2nd no one bats an eye Reimer lands a 2nd everybody looses their mind
Reimer is worth a late 2nd.
It's when leafs fans start up with the "late 1st" talk that people (rightfully) bat an eye/"loooose their mind"
1 When did a leaf fan start up with the late first talk.this is propaganda chirp
2 Reimer career stats 26 years
140games 914save% 11 shutouts
Corey Crawford career stats 29 years
211games 914save% 10 shutouts
Dustin tokarski career stats 24 years
10 games 902save% 1 shutout
3 good post, both teams get something they want.i think it's a third round pick from Winnipeg.
right bc the majority of posts regarding Reimer have involved a late 1st (not saying there hasn't been some) but most posts involve Reimer moving in a package or for a conditional draft pick. You're cherry picking.
31 Aug 2014 20:40:08
PENS EARLY SEASON MOVES:
Invite Dustin Penner to camp.
If he does well then he would be on the top pairing with Kunitz-Crosby, otherwise we place Kapanen there.
Keep in mind that Mike Johnston stated that Derrick Pouliot, although a full two weeks behind Maata in recovery, will most likely be ready for training camp. Therefore, they will both be ready for puck drop on Oct. 9 vs ANA.
ex. Scuderi, Despres
Fleury and Greiss will fight for #1 position.
Kunitz and Hornquist swapping in front of net, Crosby on half boards
Letang and Malkin on the point
Hornquist in front of net, Sutter and Kapanen on half boards
Pouliot and Ehroff on the point
The pens will be a much more physical team this year who will be willing to give the body.
Mike is a coach who can make decisions on the fly and adjust his lines mid game in order to take advantage of certain situations.
Im guessing that they go 55-20-7. They have built a team that will survive even if they are hit with a plague of injuries.
Wow Scudari is already a HS? What a bad signing
31 Aug 2014 20:14:27
I'm not sure of Ward's trade value but could this happen?
SJS: Ward, 3rd
CAR: Niemi, Demers, 4th
The 4th could be changed to a 3rd but I estimated this since SJS would be improving in net if Ward could be as consistant as he formerly was. CAR would improve their defence with Demers coming in. Since CAR would be getting a replacement goalie and another D man, SJS would get a higher pick due to losing Demers as well.
I think Demers would be a bit much, probably someone of less value would be better. But very good trade imo.
Really? All of that for Ward?
31 Aug 2014 18:44:23
trade: chara boychuck subban 2015 2nd 2016 3rd
to bos: kane retains 2.5m and stuart
to edm: marchand erikkson
to bos: perron fayne
kelly, bartkowski for 2015 2nd
sign smith and krug to 5 year 18.5M dollar contract
You traded Eriksson then put him in the lineup
31 Aug 2014 16:59:16
CAR: Dennis Robertson + a 2nd OR 3rd
31 Aug 2014 16:19:41
Montreal trades Plekanec and 2015 2nd to Washington for Karl Alzner
WSH gets center depth after Grabo left, Pleks plays 200 foot game which Trotz will love and MTL gets a left handed Top 4 DFD to play with a puck moving Gilbert.
Caps already have center depth, especially with Kuznetsov entering his first full season. Alzner leaving would create a huge gap in their defense that can't be filled by a prospect. This would be a very bad deal for Washington.
I think the caps want to compete and could use a proven center too play in their top 9 but that's not enough for Washington to move Alzner IMO
31 Aug 2014 15:18:45
Montreal:daniel and henrik sedin and zach kassian
Vancouver:plekanec,sekac and gallagher
It is fair for both teams?
31 Aug 2014 18:54:35
Regardless of whether its fair, there is something called the salary cap.
MON is ~ 2.5 under the cap, but this trade gives them ~9m additional cap hit, so they'd be more than 6 mil over the cap.
It helps when you think about what you post before you post it
No from Van. Gallagher is the only player out of those 3 that Vancouver would need.
Habs don't need that cap trouble
Habs don't have the cap space and they have a no trade clause.
Not only is the value miles off but it makes no sense why this was even a proposition.
01 Sep 2014 00:24:48
not even close really
henrik > plecky
daniel >>>>> sekac
gallagher > kassian but its nowhere near enough to makeup the difference
Rather keep Plekanec and Sekac and Gallagher because the only player that interests me is Kassian and he's not going to be near as good as Sekac and Gallagher. Sedins are too old and have a bad cap hit.
31 Aug 2014 02:30:42
Bos - Boychuk
Edm - Yakupov & Purcell
Boychuk is a UFA next season, why would the oilers do this.
31 Aug 2014 06:37:18
Would get neither of them alone, especially not Yakupov.
Lmao boychuk for Purcell and a 3/4th round pick
Boychuk, Khochlachev, and a Conditional 4th for Yakupov. 3rd if Boychuk resigns with the Oilers.
Nova x 65
Is that the same Purcell that got traded for Sam gagner months ago.and tbay was going to buyout gagner until they traded him with crombeen for a 6th round pick to coyotes.oh and tbay pays a third of gagners contract so coyotes would take him.lmao
31 Aug 2014 18:56:42
^drgonzo: This trade doesn't reflect Purcell's value as a player. The trade was made to free up cap space (same with the Nate Thompson trade) for the signings TB made after these trades: Stralman, Boyle, Nabokov, Morrow.
Purcell is not a star player, but he's a solid 2nd line playmaker capable of 65 points a season.
Wow^^this trade just happened draisaitl. I think it reflects purcells value as a player much more than you're opinion.wake up
1 So the teddy Purcell trade which just happened doesn't reflect purcells value. tbay gave away Purcell for next to nothing so that thy could sign players they wanted instead of him and this reflects how valuable Purcell is.lol ok bud clearly I have no legs to stand on
2 boychuk is worth more than Purcell.
Yes or no
01 Sep 2014 18:05:08
Pure player wise I think Boychuk is worth maybe a little bit more than Purcell, BUT he will be an UFA at year's end, which clearly reduces his value, plus BOS has no need for Purcell, that's why I thought it doesn't make any sense, for both teams.
@mr_enlightened: Please read more carefully what I said. I know that trade just happened. But it didn't happen because Purcell sucks or anything, but because 4.5 is a bit too much for what he brings and he was most expandable (bc we sure won't trade Johnson, Palar, Stamkos, Callahan, Filppula, etc), which doesn't make him a bad player with no value.
Was that a yes or a no.its a simple question and if you don't wanna answer then just don't say anything.whether this deal makes sense or not is semantics.we are talking about his value. Or at least I'm trying too and you're deflecting. I understand purcells value was affected by his team having depth at his position but teams don't give good players for next too nothing unless they are worth next to nothing.
@draisaitl I read it again more carefully and I never said he was a bad player with no value.purcell was traded for almost nothing(tbay trades Purcell+crombeen and pays 1.6 million of Sam gagners contract for Arizona for a 6th round pick=purcells value is very low or else he would have fetched more for Tampa the team you cheer for. Recent history suggests Purcell is worth less than a 6th rd pick.recent history also suggestsboychuk is worth way more than that.
Did anyone say Purcell was a bad player with no value.i just see evidence of how much value he actually has.semantics drais.again.
-Was that a yes or no on boychuk draisaitl. You can't choose both.
- The fact that tbay just traded Purcell and got little value in return obviously suggests he does not have much value
-stop worrying about leafs and habs fans biases.focus on you're own
02 Sep 2014 16:42:44
In the current situation (which has Boychuk being an UFA next year) I'd say NO. If he'd be signed for the next 3 years, I'd say YES. Simple as that.
C'mon you can't really say Purcell is worth less than a 6th.
Let us compare him tu Lupul, Purcell can put up equal numbers, is younger and they have comparable contracts.
Would you say Lupul is worth a 7th? I wouldnt. So isn't Purcell.
Again: Just because he got traded from a position of strength as you said and because other signings were to come, doesn't mean his value is a 6th or even lower.
How can a 2nd line W capable of 65 pts a year be worth a 7th?
Btw: How can I be biased for a player that's not even on my team anymore?
31 Aug 2014 01:19:19
WIN: Plekanec, Hudon, Reway, 4th
31 Aug 2014 06:39:57
@HockeyGodsGift: That's what I meant.
Kunitz > Plekanec
Bennett > Reway
2015 1st >>> Hudon, 4th
No way this is enough.
Plek and a 2nd maybe
If the habs want Kane, galchenyuk would have to be involved.
30 Aug 2014 23:29:32
31 Aug 2014 05:08:28
Lupul is younger and just as good as Marleau.
Phaneuf is better than Braun
2nd is better than 3rd
no way from TO
31 Aug 2014 06:42:07
In which world is Lupul as good as Marleau?!
Marleau might be older, but he's definitely better and not injured as much.
I think you did a good job on the value of the trade posted as we'll as including players that could/should be moved and this deal or something close too it would not shock me.good post
SJS Lines would look more like this:
31 Aug 2014 15:25:19
Lupul is 4-5 years younger and still scores 25 goals a year. I'm happy with that. Marleau will burn out much more quickly than Lupul. Not worth it for the leafs
This deal could help both teams,good post might be a slight overpayment by toronto imo
31 Aug 2014 17:38:40
Cant see the leafs trading for more older guys. They already added robidas for vetran presence and don't really need more. Plus I see lupul for an upgrade on defence and then an expendable d-man for a winger to fill the spots up again. I believe tml and mtl were going to do somthing along the lines of lupul for georges
30 Aug 2014 19:57:39
OTT: Guptill and a 6th
Ottawa needs a good winger and Versteeg just doest seem to fit very well anywhere in the Hawks lineup.
30 Aug 2014 19:40:56
Islanders need a number 1 d-men and boston need to clear cap and need a right-handed right wing since the departure of iginla
Islanders: chara and eriksson
Bruins:okposo and grabner/clutterbuck
Fair for both teams
31 Aug 2014 19:55:21
id say they need okposo and tavares's chemistry more than a number 1 dman
x karlsson x 65
Boston overpays add some high draft picks for the Islanders(I'm talking like 1st 2nd round) and maybe you'll be STARTING a deal
30 Aug 2014 19:03:16
Mtl: bournvial, moen, trunev
Col: talbot, mitchell, 3rd
30 Aug 2014 18:18:56
WNG: R.Nash, 2nd Round Pick
More like Nash for Kane and a 2nd.
30 Aug 2014 17:55:11
tomas plekanec, micheal bournival, Zach fucale to pitts for pascal dupuis, Brandon sutter and Tristan jarry
helps solve Pittsburgh cap trouble and Crosby doesn't have to play against plekanec anymore which he hates.habs are deep at center and can improve their right wing position yes sutter can also play right wing.
Pittsburgh wins that's big time, habs say no
What about adding a first from Pittsburgh and a 2nd from montreal
dupuis,sutter,jarry 1st 2015 to montreal for plekanec,bournival,fucale 2nd 2015
30 Aug 2014 16:49:27
PIT: Simon Despres
CGY: Sven Bartschi
Calgary's management was disgruntled with Bartschi's play last year and they could possibly look to trade him.
Pittsburgh trades Despres since they have Maata, Poliout, Harrington, Samuelsson and Dumoulin as other good young defense prospects. And they are in need of a young forward prospect.
Great trade IMO
30 Aug 2014 19:13:12
Good idea it makes a lot of sense to me
Certainly a decent trade, but I don't think Calgary is ready to give up on Baertschi yet.
30 Aug 2014 16:36:17
Ha no from BUF
Lol I don't like the odds of this trade happening
Why would you want Gorges back if you just traded him? Also we get rid of Emelin our defense are a bunch of guys that don't hit except for Subban. Also Emelin can score occasionaly wheras Gorges never does. The only reason your probably saying this is because u want Gorges to be captain.
31 Aug 2014 00:46:49
you do realize MTL just traded goges to BUF, right?
30 Aug 2014 16:19:05
PIT: Brian Dumoulin, 2016 3rd
TBL: Brett Connelly
Pittsbugh has a surplus of defensive prospects and is really lacking on forwards prospect. Plus Connelly is most likely nhl ready and has the potential to be a top 6 forward in the right situation.
Tampa Bay has a lot of young nhl ready forwards and Connelly is most likely not going to get a shot in the top 6. Dumoulin is ready to be a 5 or 6 dman and has potential to be a top 4 defenseman.
30 Aug 2014 17:05:13
Tampa doesn't really need another defensemen, but I'd to it since we get the additional pick
Good post but I think it's more like a 5th round pick going to Tampa bay
Or Despres straight up for Connelly?
30 Aug 2014 16:18:43
Sj T mcginn, 3rd
30 Aug 2014 15:52:30
Read an article on this. Found it very intriguing. What if the Boston Bruins decided to trade Zdeno Chara? He's aging, but wouldn't get a bigger return for him then right now. They are trying to clear some cap space, which would be accomplished with this deal. Plus they could easily upgrade their top-six forwards with trading him. Now IMO I don't think Boston will trade him as long as they are a cup contender. BUT if the right deal came along, I think they would consider.
That deal would probably look like.
Top-six right winger, top 4 defender, 1st round pick. (Depending on value, could add a decent prospect or other pick)
So which teams would be interested?
Not as many as you'd think but, I believe Los Angeles, New York Rangers, Montreal, Tampa Bay, and Detroit would be most interested.
Keep in mind, the Bruins might want to get younger, clear cap space, and possibly deal a defender that is slowing down.
The potential trades:
BOS: Zucarello, Girardi, 1st 2017
BOS: Palat, Carle, 1st 2015, 2nd 2016
I'm having a hard time placing value. Ignore the fact that you don't think Chara will get traded, just give your 2 cents on what they would get in return? Thanks for reading
I agree boston should trade him he is totally slowing down.but if they did, which they won't cause they are not smart enough. they would trade him to a western team.
Tough one. I just can't see them moving him.chara for yakupov lol
30 Aug 2014 17:24:46
Boy, I don't know where to start in saying how bad that is for every team not named Boston.
First of all, why the hell would LA be interested? They (and maybe STL) have the best D corps in the NHL.
Second, Chara is already declining, he's 37 and has one, MAYBE two good seasons left. Sure, he's still a very good dmen, but he isn't worth all that.
NYR: Girardi isn't much worse, but way younger and has a way better contract, which makes his trade value AT LEAST even to Chara's, rather higher. Still add Zuccarallo and a 1st? No thanks.
TB: WHY? TB has just added Stralman and Garrison to their D, their fine with it now, no need.
Besides that, value is so far off.
Carle may be a bit overpayed, but he's a solid top 4 guy. Palat was a calder finalist and is IMO untouchable for TB, I'm pretty sure he is a future Selke nominee, if not winner. Plus a 1st in the McDavid draft and another 2nd? that's insane.
I'm pretty sure most people disagree on what I'll say now, but i'm pretty sure Yzerman wouldn't trade Palat straight up for Chara.
Think 10-15 more years of a promising young forward, with great two way play VS 1 or MAX 2 years of an already declining Dmen, that TB doesn't really need.
30 Aug 2014 17:27:43
To answer your question:
Tbh I think Chara could fetch a good-paid top 4 dmen (for the cap, if other team is close to cap, too) and a prospect/mid pick.
Or a very good D prospect like (not saying PIT needs him or whatever, just an example) Maatta and a 5th or so
Wow draisaitl you're becoming more of a douche. How bout you give you're opinion on charas value rather than telling everyone their wrong.thats easy and of no use. So tell us what's fair value for chara oh wise one
30 Aug 2014 19:25:12
those packages you're putting together would be for a 30 year old chara, not a 37 year old one. he's worth nowhere near that and last year really showed some signs of declining.
Idk about all that. Tampa got 2 firsts along with Callahan for (then) 37 year old St. Louis. Not saying it's believable, but something similar happened only half a year ago.
Boston needs to just give him lless minutes.
I agree, why would a team trade away youth and picks for 1 or 2 years from an aging, albeit good dman? I don't see it happening. His career will almost certainly end in boston
Chara has a lot of value and he's still a very effective player. Every team that wants to compete this year would be interested to some degree in trading for big z. Correct me if I'm wrong but he would still be better than 4 too 7 dmen on any team. He finally slowed down a touch, but he is still a beast.
Coyotes get chara
Bruins get connor Murphy,Lucas lessio,4th rd pick if big z wanted to play there
Chara isn't worth much at all now. He looks slow.
31 Aug 2014 06:43:42
@drgonzo: As you see, I did just that.
How about YOU giving an assessment here or elsewhere instead of only always saying that I am a douche or whatever?
I'm at least talking hockey. You're talking me, lol.
31 Aug 2014 06:48:15
Shankar ist exactly right, that's for a 30yr old Chara.
The St.Louis comparison is a bit wrong IMO, Marty did show no signs at all of slowing down, he scored 4 goals vs SJ, won the Art Ross a year ago and averaged like 1.1 PPG the last 5 years.
Plus, the Rangers knew that Callahan would prolly leave either way in FA since they couldn't agree on a new contract.
Also, Callahan is not old at 29, but oldER than Palat at 23, who hasn't reached his full potential yet, so that's a difference, too.
Plus Rangers were/are in a desperate win-now-mode, which TB isnt. At least not desperate, since we got SY.
Everyone here is wrong chara is worth nowhere near these deals but if they find the right team and add in other players like kelly plus prospects and maybe 1st or 2nd pick they could get a top 4 d man plus top six right winger to a team that's going for the cup this year
I gave my opinion on the post.i then gave my opinion on you being a douche after reading you're comment.clearly I'm not the only one who has a problem with you based on the amount of clicks as we'll as hockeygodsgift and mrenlightened and others both telling you to shut up and post an idea if you're so smart rather than just dumping on peoples ideas.
01 Sep 2014 18:07:22
Lol, you three have a problem with me because you don't like that I keep telling people they overvalue their players (especially TOR and MON), but it's just the truth.
And 90% of the time, I get more agree's than disagrees, which is pretty good, considering this site is super TOR and MON heavy, lol.
You still don't get it do you.
-You overvalue you're players too.
-you don't know more than the 3 of us if that's all it is.
-the amount of agrees/disagrees you get with words count.its not a clicking contest
This conversation has been comical to follow. Seems to be a lot of pent up angst finally coming out.
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