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22 Oct 2018 07:24:29
EDM - Ryan Strome + 1st Rd Pick
MTL - Paul Byron

EDM - Milan Lucic + 5th Rd Pick
PIT - Carl Hagelin

Edmonton gets faster, pittsburgh gets tougher, montreal gets depth down the middle and a pick.

Nugent-Hopkins - McDavid - Rattie
Byron - Draisaitl - Puljujärvi
Hagelin - Cagguila - Yamamoto
Khaira - Brodziak - Kassian

And as a cool experiment it would be cool to see them try out a really speedy line


Carl Hagelin - Connor McDavid - Paul Byron

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22 Oct 2018 12:05:46
Ryan Strome and a 1st for Byron? Ok!

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22 Oct 2018 15:10:48
Might as well make it a 4 way trade and throw in Seabrook and Loui Eriksson to Pittsburgh as well.

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22 Oct 2018 07:19:54
PIT - Olli Maatta + 1st Rd Pick
TOR - William Nylander

Pit might have to add

PIT - 2nd Rd Pick
CGY - Mark Jankowski


Jake Guentzel - Sidney Crosby - William Nylander
Carl Hagelin - Evgeni Malkin - Phil Kessel
Dominik Simon - Derrick Brassard - Patric Hornqvist
Bryan Rust - Mark Jankowksi - Daniel Sprong

Brian Dumoulin - Kris Letang
Jack Johnson - Justin Schultz
Juuso Riikola - Jamie Oleksiak

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21 Oct 2018 17:37:24
Habs Hudon
Tampa Cirelli + Callahan (huge cap dump)

Tatar Danault Gallagher
Drouin Cirelli Domi
Byron Kotkaniemi Armia
Peca Plekanec Deslauriers

Rielly Weber
Mete Petry
Alzner Juulsen

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21 Oct 2018 21:36:05
Wouldn't it be just as we'll to just keep hudon. I don't see any reason to take on bad contracts just cause we can afford to.

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22 Oct 2018 01:06:42
Rather keep Hudon.

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22 Oct 2018 09:35:38
TB doesn't do this either. Just 1 year left on Callahans deal after this season and TB is fine capwise this year. No need to ship out Cirelli in that deal.

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21 Oct 2018 09:56:12
Might be a little biased as a Habs fan but this works for both teams.

Leafs - Nylander

Habs - Petry (50% retained), Scherbak, Brooks, 4th

Petry = number 2-3 dman on most teams (if you disagree then please watch a habs game), and is a steal at 2.25 million for 3 years
Scherbak = very talented but can't seem to make it work in Montreal
Brooks = decent prospect, won't be anything special but will most likely make the NHL
4th = throw in

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Marleau - Matthews - Scherbak
Johnsson - Kadri - Kapanen
Brown - Lindholm - Ennis

Reilly - Petry
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Dermott - Hainsey.

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21 Oct 2018 10:00:32
Habs lines:

Drouin - Domi - Nylander
Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Kotka - Armia
Byron - Pleky - Hudon

Reilly - Weber
Mete - Juulsen
Ouellet - Benn

Byron on the 4th is rough, but it gives the team scoring options on all 4 lines.

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21 Oct 2018 12:27:11
Dump the 4th to a2nd imo. Brook (the dman right) is good, Scherbak is basically Kapanen 2.0 which i don't mind and Petry at 50% is solid for our blueline. Just bump that pick. You might need a little more because teams normally don’t trade young blossoming players to rivals.

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21 Oct 2018 14:00:57
There is no way Leafs Trade Nylander within their division.

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21 Oct 2018 15:52:07
Although I like Nylander. I still don't like him at 8+million per.
I also am reluctant to deal Brook,

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21 Oct 2018 16:09:45
Tempting

Petry sucks, but he’s better than Hainsey, and is worth the $2.25. Scherbak can’t even make Montreal, so I have a very hard time seeing him crack Leafs lineups. It’s still too early to say for sure, but Brook looks to be like he is going to make it as top 4 RHD. He’d be a real nice prospect player to add.

I’m not seeing anything here that would turn Dubas on. It’s a mediocre defenseman and some mediocre prospects. Nylander is 1RW and would have an immediate impact on Montreal. He’s worth more.

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21 Oct 2018 21:30:08
change the 4th to a 1st at minimum, for nylander to get traded to a rival it would take overpayment. and even that package with 1st would be a steal.

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21 Oct 2018 22:38:51
Petry a #2/3 on "most" teams. Lol 😂😂. Talk about a VBB over exaggeration here.

"Some"* teams.

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22 Oct 2018 04:24:25
Too much for nylander.

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22 Oct 2018 13:40:09
Sherbak is not kappanen 2.0, not sure how you came to that and petry is a 5-6 on the leafs d. Leafs pass and to trade nylander in the division would cost Montreal a lot, more than they would be willing to pay. Even though nylander would be there best player.

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20 Oct 2018 21:10:18
Deal now:
To Carolina:
Nylander, Durzi, Marincin, Neilson
To Leafs:
Pesce, Foegele, Zykov

In January (for cap space and for defence improvement)
To NYI:
2019 1st, Zaitsev, Leivo
To Leafs:
Pulock, possible pick/prospect depending on Pulock's play, Zaitsev's play, and Leivo's play up to that point

Deadline deal
To Columbus:
Gardiner (extension from Columbus required), condtional 2020 1st (becomes 2nd, 2021 3rd if Panarin doesn't re-sign), Brown, 2019 4th
To Leafs:
Panarin (he will be cheaper to get by this point)

Lines:
Marleau/Matthews/Panarin
Hyman/Tavares/Marner
Foegele/Kadri/Kapanen
Johnsson/Lindholm/Zykov
*Ennis, Gauthier
Reilly/Pulock
Dermott/Pesce
Hainsey/Ozhiganov
*Holl
Anderson
Sparks

Cmon how could you not love that team?
Scratched players all under $700 thousand

Solid 4th line and each player under 1mill

Third line of hard workers that can score and take on other teams top lines

And the other two are nothing special, just so we can throw a team together 😂

People seemed to like this on the leafs rumours site, so I wanted to branch out a bit and get more opinions

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21 Oct 2018 01:40:08
I’d make all of those trades from a leafs POV.

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21 Oct 2018 08:41:03
So if VB says he'd do all those trades from a Leafs POV, this prolly tells you all you need to know about whether those trades are fair.

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21 Oct 2018 14:04:19
coming from the guy who thinks Stamkos>Mathews and Crosby—>Fantasy league.

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21 Oct 2018 22:45:10
But Stamkos IS better than Mathews 🤔

Mathews: 69, 63 point seasons
Stamkos: 46, 95, 91, 97, 57, 40, 72, 64, 20, 86,
Mathews was injured 20 games season #2 and Stamkos was injured half or so of season #5, 6, 9.
Mathews 1 - 40 goal season
Stamkos 4 - 40+ goal season, 1 is 51 and 1 is 60.
Not sure how you argue those numbers.

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22 Oct 2018 03:01:01
Ok but Matthews also missed about a quarter of the season last year, he would’ve hit 70 for sure and probably 75, maybe even 80.

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22 Oct 2018 04:05:43
You can’t argue those numbers. Stamkos has been a stud for years and leaf fans can only hope Matthews has a career as good as Stamkos.

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22 Oct 2018 09:38:06
"coming from the guy who thinks Stamkos>Mathews and Crosby—>Fantasy league. "
Well #1 I literally never said anything about that since that never was a topic and #2 as pointed out above by others, Stamkos has had an impressive career. This season so far, Matthews is the better player, no doubt.

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20 Oct 2018 16:58:58
3 team)
Mtl Poehling- min
Min Spurgeon- tor
Tor Kadri- Mtl

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20 Oct 2018 17:03:25
Lolol. Peohling doesn't get you Kadri. Tor and Min would just cut Mtl out of the deal and make a deal themselves if anything.

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20 Oct 2018 17:50:58
Mtl takes and run.

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20 Oct 2018 20:39:40
Yeah, i don’t want to trade Kadri, but it might have to happen eventually. But no way Montreal is involved in this deal haha back to back 30 goal years at $4.5 mill for 4 more years and can be a very effective matchup centre as well. And spurgeon is a good skating puck moving RHD. Where does Poehling fit in the conversation with those 2? Lol

Drouin ——> Edmonton
Nurse ——> Nashville
Shane Bowers ——> Montreal

How’s that one look to you?

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20 Oct 2018 22:49:35
Leafs definitely say no to trading Kadri for Spurgeon, who is above average age in NHL, well below average sized, and whose contract costs more, and expires two year earlier, than Kadri’s.

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20 Oct 2018 23:37:33
I like Poheling but lol he sticks out like a sore thumb In this trade.

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20 Oct 2018 23:47:51
Wow what a steal for Minny (sarcasm)

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21 Oct 2018 01:55:38
I think all 3 teams involved say no.
If Habs were a better team and contender, then hell ya.

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20 Oct 2018 11:49:46
Devils:
-LW Marcus Johansson
-C/RW Mikey McLeod
-2019 1st round

Leafs
-C/RW William Nylander

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20 Oct 2018 13:48:25
Hell no from devils Nylander even with a 6×6 contract is not worth Mcleoud and a first so forgetabout adding Johanson.

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20 Oct 2018 17:11:46
Ya, way too much, people thinking nylander is a superstar when he's just a above average player. not like he's a great two way player, 1 dementional winger, stop thinking he's worth a ransom when other teams know his contract demands, they aren't going to give a lot to over pay a good player.

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20 Oct 2018 20:46:33
None of those pieces provide any value to the leafs.

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20 Oct 2018 22:56:52
It’s close.

McLeod is highly rated, but unproven, prospect player, while Johansson is pending UFA coming back from nasty concussion. The 1st is what it is.

Jersey is loaded in talented forward prospects, so may be willing to move McLeod for someone that can contribute immediately. This is probably reasonably close to what Leafs can expect in terms of a package of picks/ prospects.

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20 Oct 2018 23:50:12
Nobody should give any value to the leafs vb or whatever your name is, do you honestly think Nylander is worth much or can you just not see through them Toronto glasses.

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21 Oct 2018 01:46:55
Well I mean McLeod and the 1st could potentially never play a game in the NHL and Johanson has negative value IMO he’s not worth his contract. So leafs could be potential be giving a PPG + player for virtually nothing of concrete value obviously the 1st is nice but McLeod doesn’t fit in at all. Wouldn’t be surprised if he can put up 90 points eventually in the right situation he reminds me very much of Paniran and it’s likely he’s better in the future comparing statistics.

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21 Oct 2018 08:42:26
classic VB.

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22 Oct 2018 04:28:56
My only question is if leafs don't think nylander is worth $8 per year. then why do they think he is worth that such in a trade.

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22 Oct 2018 15:15:56
I believe he will be worth 9.5 million on a long term contract but I wouldn’t pay him that if I were the leafs I could see him pulling a Seguin.

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19 Oct 2018 11:55:04
Cal - TJ Brodie + 1st Rd Pick
Tor - William Nylander

Cal - Mark Jankowski
Ari - 2nd Rd Pick

What do you think?

Gaudreau - Monahan - Nylander
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm
Frolik - Bennett - Neal
Hathaway - Ryan - Czarnik

Giordano - Valimaki
Hanifin - Hamonic
Andersson - Stone


Flames become a legit scoring threat and have the cap to sign Nylander long term 6M x 6yrs maybe 4 depends on what Nylander is asking. Nothing more than 6m for sure.

And heres some trades for next year.

Cal - Mark Giordano
Vgs - 1st Rd Pick + Shea Theodore

Cal - Michael Frolik
Ari - 3rd Rd Pick


Future Lines:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Nylander
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm
Czarnik - Bennett - Neal
Hathaway - Ryan - Dube

Välimäki - Hamonic
Hanifin - Theodore
Andersson - Stone

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19 Oct 2018 12:17:19
Billy have u been living under a rock? If Nylander was only asking for 6 million he would of been signed already. He wants 8+ million wich is why he's not signed. At 6 million he would of been signed 2 months ago lol. Get the right info before posting nonsense.

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19 Oct 2018 13:17:05
Lol BoomBoom. I was thinking the same thing. Where have you been the last few months.

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19 Oct 2018 13:18:22
Lol. Vegas will laugh in your face.
You can't just always expect to dump players in Arizona.

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19 Oct 2018 17:10:54
First of all as well stated Nylander won’t sign in Toronto for $6.5. He won’t sign anywhere else for less.

And Giordano NEXT YEAR for Shea Theodore and a 1st?! He’s goinn to be a year older yet again and Theodore should take another step forward by then while Gio takes a step thebother direction. Not taking a shot at gio, I love the way he plays, but it’s just nature, he’s long past his prime and Theodore hasn’t entered his yet. If you flipped it and made Calgary give the 1st with Gio, Vegas would say no unless flames fell apart and it was a very high pick.

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19 Oct 2018 20:13:02
Brodie + 1st doesn’t seem to make a whole lot of sense for the Leafs either.

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19 Oct 2018 21:42:20
They need a RHD.

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18 Oct 2018 22:59:42
Cal - Valimaki + Jankowski + 1st Rd Pick
Tor - Nylander

Gaudreau - Monahan - Nylander
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm
Frolik - Bennett - Neal
Czarnik - Ryan - Hathaway

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Andersson - Stone

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18 Oct 2018 23:40:53
Can the Flamers afford to even add around $7M cap?
I think the Flames should deal Gio, Brodie or Hamonic and keep Hannifin and Valmaki. They are starting to get old with Gio, Brodie, Hamonic and Smith in net. Keep the youth.
I think Nylander would look damn good with them tho.

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19 Oct 2018 01:13:20
I’d definitely do Nylander for Gio and 1st.

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19 Oct 2018 04:11:58
Flames won’t be dealing their young defenders. They are looking great and their forward depth looks good too. Their goaltending looks shaky though.

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19 Oct 2018 10:00:40
Very similar to the Brayden Schenn deal that landed Philly Frost and Farabee. I like this trade. It demonstrates very astute cap and asset management. That Valimaki kid is very highly rated. If Calgary doesn’t want to trade him, they also have Andersson, who would be another good choice. Jankowski hasn’t done much up to this point. Big kid that plays a strong game, inexpensive and controllable for a number of years still.

If Toronto doesn’t do this, it would only be because they are wanting someone more proven for that 1RHD spot. But it’s got to be close to what they can expect in terms of a package of prospects/ picks. May have to take a cap dump of some sort too as yup pointed out.

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19 Oct 2018 12:13:14
Woah, jankowski scores nearly as much as nylander as a 3rd line as nylander scores playing with Mathews? Plus add a top prospect and a 1st? And then millions of cap space? Just horrible for the flames.

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19 Oct 2018 22:55:22
Jankowski .34PPG Nylander .73PPG is not nearly as much shoots. I don’t know enough about Valimaki to have an opinion on the proposal but Nylander is much better than Jankowski at the moment.

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20 Oct 2018 17:05:08
I hate the Flamers but really like Jankowski but also know Nylander is a lot better, lol, and it's not really close.
Janko is/ will be a solid third line center.

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20 Oct 2018 17:29:21
"Scores" didn't say points, nylander 20 in 82 games, jankowski 17 in 72 games. 1 of these guys had less time on the ice, guess which one, 13:21 to 16:41.

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21 Oct 2018 00:45:55
In 400 mins+ playing with Mathews, instead of bennet and Hathaway, safe to assume jankowski could at least match nylanders numbers, he's a few years older yes, nylander has a lot more room to grow but players sometimes regress.

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18 Oct 2018 16:12:25
This trade would never happen but you know I just feel like this today
To Leafs:
Bobrovsky, Panarin, Nutivaara
To Columbus:
Anderson, Gardiner, Nylander, 2020 2nd
Anderson+2nd=Bobrovsky
Nylander=Panarin
Gardiner=Nutivaara

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18 Oct 2018 19:24:23
Never happen like you said. Bobrovsky apparently wants Price money. So taking that into consideration, I’m satisfied with Andersen at $5mill for 3 more years. 5 years control of Nylander for a year of Panarin isn’t worth it. And UFA Gardiner for a 20 year old good Dman makes no sense for CBJ. If they’re losing their star goalie and best forward, what is the point of adding Gardiner?

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18 Oct 2018 19:47:29
Nylander is not close to panarin, maybe nylander will be 5 years from now but not close right now, panarin has earned 8+ a year, nylander hasnt.

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18 Oct 2018 22:24:32
Read what he said Shoots, he said he prefers having Nylander under control for 5 more years than having Panarin for 1. And he is right.

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19 Oct 2018 12:26:12
What he said is they're equal, nylander wants more money that isn't earned, panarin is proven he's earned a contract, nylander has a few years to earn. Much rather have panarin at 6 mil this year than 8 mil nylander. Panarin has much better stats playing with lesser players.

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19 Oct 2018 12:40:01
If leafs can sign nylander at 6m-6.5 for 3-5 years, he's worth it, but at his contract demands, he ain't worth nothing. No team is paying a 60 point player 8 million a year long term.

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19 Oct 2018 12:55:36
And not responding to Jim if that's what's you're talking about cherry, he always has good input, I get the control of the player but they are not equal, not close, not what I was talking about.

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19 Oct 2018 17:39:25
My apologies Shoots, thought you were referring to the 1st response.

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19 Oct 2018 19:47:12
Yeah, player for player I’m not debating Nylander equals panarin. Just that panarin will demand $8.5+ mill in July which he will be worth but we can’t afford and we would be competing with 30 teams to try to keep him. Nylander can demand $8.5mill all he wants, Dubas controls his future. So at the end of the day it’s trading off 5 years of a 60-70 pt guy for 1 year of a 75-80 pt guy, when scoring is the least of our worries.

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20 Oct 2018 05:01:48
Totally agree jim.

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20 Oct 2018 16:12:36
Ya but Nylamder could become a 80-100 point guy. Here's why, how many players have we seen getting 30-60 points season until the age of 23 and then after that getting 60+ points season? Barkov is an example. I think 60 is just the start for Nylander I don't know why people think he can't prosgress more then just a 70 point player. I've never been a fan of leafs but if mtl can get Nylander oh boy what a team. And why would he take less the 7 million? Because Pastnark took a discount 2 years ago so Nylander has to be lower then what Boston plays him? Lol.

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