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24 Jul 2014 14:42:37
Feel like I might get bashed with negativity for this one, but oh well.
Toronto trades Kadri to Washington for Orlov.
Dont know if its fair. If you don't think it is, propose a change.

Washington needs a center behind Backstrom and has too many Dmen. Kadri would be a welcomed presence.

Toronto's defense is laughable (sorry Leafers, but you know its true, especially after the Polak trade) and although Kadri is great, I'm envisioning Orlov paired with Phaneuf or Franson for that combo of offensive threat/physical presence in one pair. Having a creative guy like Orlov on the blue line should make up fore Kadri's absence.

HockeyGodsGift

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24 Jul 2014 11:39:46
Ok everyone I understand that everyone has had just enough of people trading plecanec and over valueing him. But things are getting a little clogged at centre and they could use him as a piece to get a 2rw. I try to be as least biased as possible so hear me out!

To OTT: Plecanec, Patryn, 2nd
To MTL: Ryan

Not to sure on value but it does fill needs. Just don't know if they will make this in division trade. I know it needs tinkering!

HELP?

Soobydoo

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24 Jul 2014 07:31:06
Ok Now mon: subban for
Win : trouba and evander kane at least my trade dosent involve budaj or pleckanec!

Montrealfinest

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Trouba is one of my favorite players . but still I don't think it's worth trading Subban short term. If Montreal is looking to contend in the next 2 years, they'll need Subban.

ATH Hockey

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IF Subban were traded (huge If), it would be for Trouba+ or Kane+, but not both. And likely, given the stifling situation with Kane in the Peg, it would be Kane+. Think Kane, B-prospect, and a 1st. I definitely see Winnipeg moving Kane before they even consider moving Trouba. He's got Subban potential already, to move him and other players for the same kind of player who is a mere couple years ahead in development would be foolhardy.

Chirp

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Subban is real good but for what it would cost i'd rather keep the trouba +. I live in Winnipeg and watch him play a lot he's going to be a number 1 dman for many yrs.

Hockeyguy11

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Trouba will not be moved! I know I will get disagrees for this, but I feel that Trouba will be better than Subban and soon, probably while we still have him at a young age and a ELC. Trouba is our "franchise player" and will be here for a long time, hopefully the rest of his carrer! Kane on the other hand, something could be worked out.

el troubadour

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24 Jul 2014 07:06:02
Oilers: Petry + gernat + lander

Flyers: schenn bros

Both teams get want they want. Oilers get a decent centerman. Flyers get closer to cap.

Petry>L.schenn
Lander + gernat < b. schenn

Would oilers add a 3rd rd pk?

edm oil

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Don't want Luke Schenn. He's been overrated since day one and the Oilers already did their defensive homework. They need a chance to see if what they did is beneficial or still needs work. The only area to possibly address right now is 2C. B Schenn could fill that void, but I'd be hard-pressed to offer up much more than Petry and a 2nd/3rd or Petry and Lander. Schenn would help, but he's not exactly a prototypical center. His name is carrying more weight than his play these days, whereas Petry has been a pretty darn solid 2nd-pairing for the Oilers on a defensively lackluster team over the past few years. I think his value would/will increase when sandwiched between better top and bottom pairings since his heavy lifting would be lessened.

Chirp

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24 Jul 2014 07:01:49
Oilers should still go for bailey for NY isles or Wilson from Nashville.

They need a centerman badly.

Oilers offer isles: d-man prospect and lander. Bailey's contract isn't too at all.

Wilson would have a higher demand.
Oilers offer Pitlick + lander or gernat + 3rd rd pk.

If not, then oilers just please sign loktoinov. Winnik would be a great addition to te 4th line with Hendricks and Gordon.

edm oil

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Bailey would definitely be more expensive than Wilson, c'mon now. Wilson is slated to be the #4C in Nashville at the moment (Ribeiro, Roy, Smith, Wilson). And Wilson is better than #4. Jokinen could fill the C gap on line 3 or 4 if Wilson were moved, no problem. Pitlick would probably be required over Lander, and I'd imagine a pick given the quality coming into the next draft. Pitlick and a 2nd if that's what it's got to be, or Pitlick and a 4th and a 5th if they'd take it. An inkling tells me that Nashville would ask for Yakimov tho, and if that's the case then I wouldn't do the trade. Yakimov is gearing up to be the 3rd/4th center the Oilers have been seeking for years. No deal. Arcobello is a capable #2C if it really comes down to it.

Chirp

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The Isles would def move Bailey, but not for a D-Man prospect they already have a long list that are almost NHL ready.

Reinhart
Pulock
Pokka
Mayfield
Czuchman
Pedan
Donoavan
Pelech
Ness
Leduc

Warrior24

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24 Jul 2014 06:52:22
Oilers: lander + prospect (pitlick or gernat or khaira) + 2nd rd pk

Rangers: brassard

Scenario if rangers can't get brassard signed.

Would oilers trade yakupov for brassard? I think it might too much. What would the rangers want from the oilers?

edm oil

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Rangers say no. Plain and simple. I have explanations to your trades above this one, but this requires no explanation because there is zero reason for NYR to make this trade and they'd lose out on it.

I agree with signing Loktionov if nothing else is available tho. Him or Mueller. I don't care if Mueller's FO% wasn't great when he was last in the NHL, he's a big body and was excellent the past two seasons in the Swiss Elite league. Worth a shot at a bargain price. If he doesn't work, play him on the wing and pit Arcobello in his place. It's not rocket science.

Chirp

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24 Jul 2014 05:10:53
S.Weber & mid prospect for J.Eberle, J.Petry, D.Nurse & 4th round pick 14'

Brassard for Franson & Mid-pick 14'

cosain

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Depends who the 'mid level prospect' is.

Shea Weber is great and all, but by the time the Oilers are ready to contend Weber will be near his mid 30s and Eberle & Nurse will be in their prime.

ATH Hockey

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^
100% agree with reply número uno. At this point, it's senseless to give up that much for Weber.

Chirp

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I don't think that's enough value going back to Nashville for Weber

Charles Xavier

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24 Jul 2014 03:22:36
Flyers: Lecavalier (2 mil retained), draft pick

Canucks: Tanev

Reason: Canucks could use a 2nd line center, Flyers need salary cap space and a defensive retooling. Tanev is a 3rd pair defender that could be 2nd pair in the next few years. Then:

Flyers: Coburn, draft pick/prospect

Oilers: Perron

Reason: Oilers need defense and Flyers need a top LW. Getting Tanev fills a defensive hole. Oilers like Coburn and Perron would be unbelievable next to Giroux. I believe Tanev has a stronger offensive side than Coburn; he can move the puck well, just needs to develop his defensive zone strength. He's 24, so he should develop that part of his game in the coming years and essentially replace Coburn's role.

Cap works for all teams. Remember, Pronger will hit LTIR at start of the season.

Lindros88

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Flyers can't afford to retain ANY salary, Lecavalier will be moved for a midrange pick or b level prospect

el troubadour

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24 Jul 2014 01:57:55
Chicago trades Oduya and Versteeg
to Carolina for Tlusty and a Fourth round pick.
Lord knows the Hurricanes need defense
and Versteeg may be slightly older than Tlustly
but plays better in a second line role and could
replace his production.

Contemplations?

HockeyGodsGift

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Oduya for a 3rd and a c-prospect. Scratch Versteeg and Tlusty. Versteeg somehow works best in Chi, and Tlusty would be a shot in the dark because he is up and down every season. Not worth the risk for either team. Carolina could use a defensive boost tho, and Chi needs the cap relief. Plus, they retain Leddy who is considered the other bubble player at the moment.

Chirp

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Chirp, you obviously didn't watch the playoffs this year if you really believe Versteeg is best in Chicago. He was a healthy scratch a couple times and only fits there on a third or fourth line role. Not his strong suit. His struggles began soon as he returned to Chicago.

HockeyGodsGift

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24 Jul 2014 01:50:46
EDM:Hodgson
BUF:Petry,Lander,3rd,4th

OILDROP

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Are you nuts?
Awful deal for Edm. Hodgson has been a slow downhill since his rookie year

Chirp

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Scratch Lander, then it could work for EDM

FleuryHawks29

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IMO, Tim Murray would turn that trade down without question. Petry (26 yo) is a solid physical D-man (the Sabres have too many of them) and Lander (23 yo) is still only a prospect. A 3rd and a 4th does not even out the deal. Hodgson (24) on the other hand on almost any NHL team would be at least a #2 center or right wing. I remember a post that traded Petry for a 2nd which received overwhelming positives. If that is the case Hodgson for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and a prospect? NO DEAL!!

SBR 2017

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24 Jul 2014 00:36:28
NYR: D. Brassard, A. Duclair, Conditional 2nd (becomes a 2016 1st if Brassard doesn't sign)

SJ: J. Thornton

THE DUKE

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23 Jul 2014 20:39:45
MTL: Brassard
NYR: 2 and 3 round picks

habsfan4life

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Montreal doesn't need another 2nd/3rd line C.

ATH Hockey

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23 Jul 2014 19:20:47
Washonton aquires: Tomas Tatar

Detroit aquires: Mike Green and a conditional 4th round pick.(becomes 3rd if Wahonton makes the confrence finals in the playoffs.)

The only reason there is a conditional pick is because Mike Greens contract isn't too good. I don't see Washonton retaining any salary in any trade because of the Orpik and Niskanen signings.

RAGE

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If the wings give up Tatar it will be for someone better then green

Drownedfish

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23 Jul 2014 18:57:02
EDM:Kadri
TOR:Petry,Purcell,2nd

Edmonton signs Del Zotto 2Y 2.5 M per

OILDROP

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With no center coming back the leafs decline.

Plus they will NOT give up on Kadri. Still has tons of potential. That just isn't enough to get him.

JF12

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23 Jul 2014 21:14:41
Again too much by the oilers.

edm oil

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Toronto can't afford it, with Gardiner and Reimer not signed. They can likely do better anyway.

THEGR81

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I think Purcell is there to stay

Leafs17

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Overpayment for kadri

Chirp

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Both teams decline

Charles Xavier

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23 Jul 2014 16:17:04
EDM:Plekanec
MTL:Purcell,Lander,Gernat,2nd

OILDROP

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Why post this twice in 10hrs? It was bad 10hrs ago and it's bad now. Give it up.

Chirp

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23 Jul 2014 16:12:28
Carolina's Eric Staal for Winnipeg's Byfuglien, Frolik, and first round pick

HockeyGodsGift

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Buff is enough for stall flat out don't need to add nothing else

carnyslop

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24 Jul 2014 01:12:14
i think staal has slighly more value than buffy, but the difference isn't a 1st and roster player.

Shankar

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I'd take buff over staal just because of the contract and the fact he's not that good

Drownedfish

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No way from WPG, Buff almost matched Stall's numbers last year playing half the year on the third line! Frolik has chemistry with every player he plays with and puts up great numbers, two way forward and plays every situation and a 1st that will most likely be top 10 in a deep draft.ya no thanks!

el troubadour

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23 Jul 2014 13:46:12
Islanders trade Bailey, Donovan, 2016 first and 2015 third to Winnipeg for Kane to get needed left wing

OR

Bailey, Donovan, 2016 first to Winnipeg for Byfuglien to get needed top tier defenceman.

Let me know what you think!

HockeyGodsGift

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Byfuglien is a forward

Drownedfish

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23 Jul 2014 13:21:19
Sign Micheal Del Zotto, Keaton Ellerby & Andrei Loktionov, as a projects and Sami Salo as a mentor. Trade Myers for a project, pick and prospect: Brendan Smith, 2015 2nd round pick and Andreas Athanasiou. If Murray did this, Buffalo would have a totally new defense not one that allowed over 34 shots per game (3rd worse in the league).
The defense would have two veterans & five former 1st round picks:
Josh Gorges----------Michael Del Zotto
Sami Salo------------Brendan Smith
Andrej Meszaros------Mark Pysyk
Keaton Ellerby

SBR 2017

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Del zoto wants to go to a contending team

JustGirouxIt

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Del zotto will soon realize his options are quite limited if that's the case. if a contender wanted him they would have snathed him up already.

Shankar

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Meszaros signed with BUF for $4.125MM. IMO Del Zotto would accept a similar offer from who ever gave it to him. If Murray could pull off my proposal above, he would shorten the time for BUF to return to the playoffs and compete, by at least a year.

SBR 2017

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When you're 24 and no team wants you, going to a contender is not your choice. Where did you hear this anyways, his girlfriend?

Leafs17

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23 Jul 2014 07:28:08
To WPG: Yandle, Samuelson, 2016 1st
To PHX: Kane
Winningeg gets their top 4 D, good pick, and good young prospect.

Soobydoo

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Overpayment plus is jets trade Kane they want scoring

Drownedfish

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Yandle is only 2 years from UFA status and I think that Wpg would want a player similar in age and contract status. The value is there though, possibly something around Kane for OEL and some tweeking?

el troubadour

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Both of u have made good points, the value is as close as WPG will get but it doesn't fill the needs of WPG. I'll try and propose something else. I feel as if a market like PHX will do Kane good.

Soobydoo

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23 Jul 2014 05:36:07
EDM:Plekanec
MTL:Petry,Lander,Gernat,2nd

OILDROP

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Habs Don't need more Defenders, they need a top-six winger.

habsfan22

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23 Jul 2014 16:00:28
Too much for plekenac

edm oil

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23 Jul 2014 05:24:52
Chicago trades rights to Kevin Hayes and conditional third
to Montreal for Tokarski.

Third becomes a second if Hayes doesn't sign.

HockeyGodsGift

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Doubt its Tokarski + a pick. Maybe a conditional 3rd rounder that becomes a 2nd if he signs. Montreal won't take that risk.

THEGR81

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23 Jul 2014 05:06:55
Chicago may be able to use one or both of these moves in order to be cap compliant.

Bickell to the Blue Jackets for a third round pick. The dude may fit in their system nicely.

Oduya to the Islanders for Donovan and a fourth rounder. Hawks like him a lot next to Hjalmarrsson, but sadly he's probably the most expendable contract the Hawks are held to.

HockeyGodsGift

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23 Jul 2014 04:21:40
Colorado Evander kane

Winnipeg ROR

should

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23 Jul 2014 03:02:47
Imagine if the Subban bros united in MON. Abviously really unlikely but still.

VAN: j. subban
MON: 2nd, 5th

BOS: m. subban
MON: Fucale, Tinordi, 1st, 2nd

I don't really know the value but this is my guess

pksubban76

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Overpayments on both trades

Charles Xavier

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Not even close, Jordan didn't go in the to 5 rounds I'm pretty sure. Huge over payment for a goalie we don't need. Just no.

Soobydoo

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23 Jul 2014 16:56:12
Bruins fan here, and even I think that's an overpayment on the Habs part. Having said that, I'll keep our Subban, thanks.

seabass2011

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WAAAY too much for M Subban. Fucale alone is worth more than he is.

Chirp

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Better chance of them all coming to the Canucks

Drownedfish

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24 Jul 2014 06:39:37
Fucale is better and a first and second is just crazy.

Oilers_11

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23 Jul 2014 01:34:43
At trade deadline next year:

PHI: Umberger, Hagg, 1st

WPG: Kane

Combine with the trade for Franson I posted earlier:

Kane - Giroux - Voracek
Lecavalier - Schenn - Simmonds
Raffl - Couturier - Read
Rinaldo - A. Hall or Laughton - Gordon
Rosehill* Akeson*

Timonen - MacDonald
Streit - Grossmann
Franson - Schenn
Schultz*

Mason
Emery

TopShelf20

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It is going to be a bad year for Philly if you have McDonald on your 1st D pair.

Warrior24

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Why does everyone think MacDonald is so bad?

Leafs17

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^
He's not bad, he's just overpayed given he only excelled in his contract season (surprise, surprise)

Chirp

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22 Jul 2014 23:34:58
EDM:Thornton
SJS:Klefbom,Lander,2nd

OILDROP

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23 Jul 2014 15:46:19
I would love that trade, gives oilers a solid second liner with experience but I can't see it happening.

oilking

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Why would SJS do this? they can likely get an ESTABLISHED d-man and/or top 6 forward for Thorton.

Klefbom MIGHT be good one day. Lander isn't anything special.

THEGR81

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22 Jul 2014 23:20:27
I put rymsdike on my first attempt do I try to reajust the deal give me some feedback

Mon: subbam
Toronto: rielly, connor Brown and leaf 2nd round of 2015

Montrealfinest

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23 Jul 2014 13:35:13
Leafs add
Brown and 2nd are not enough to make up the difference there

Draisaitl_94

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I wouldn't wanna trade Rielly or even make a trafe with the habs

SFLeafsFan67

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Agree with draisaitl, brown had an amazing junior year and I hope he can translate it into the nhl, but he's still a huge question mark, and the early-mid 2nd rounder isn't exactly a sure-fire prospect. leafs add. rielly looks great, but isn't close to great yet. subbans way way further along and still super young, regardless of potential subban is the better dman

-ovies hero

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I think Reilly will be a stud & I've heard good things about Brown. I'm ok with tanking this year for a top pick. After they sign Gardiner, it still leaves some money for trade deadline if they have a chance at a playoff run.

Leafs17

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22 Jul 2014 20:51:32
David Booth to Toronto on a 1 year deal.

Remember when Toronto was thinking about trading Kadri to Florida for Booth. THANK GOD that didn't happen lol.

THEGR81

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1.1mill

MasterMatt25

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22 Jul 2014 21:17:48
Not a bad signing. He could wind up being like a Raymond (puts up good numbers on a low risk one year deal). I would much rather have him on the 2nd line than David Clarkson.

Stammer2Leafs2016

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23 Jul 2014 01:17:10
i kinda like the signing, he could be useful on the 3rd line

Shankar

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I know booth had a bad concussion injury but as a Canucks fan I got to watch booth play when he was healthy and he had surprisingly good speed and showed flashes, good depth pickup

Drownedfish

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He's definitely going to be better than Colton Orr (even if he's injured for 30 games), so I am not at all upset about the signing.

THEGR81

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You'll get 1.1 cap relief when he is put on the LTIR in the first 10 games!

el troubadour

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22 Jul 2014 18:41:50
MTL:
3rd round pick 2015 or 2016

CBJ:
Peter Budaj

ThaNHLBoy

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22 Jul 2014 07:38:48
Oilers: yak + lander + gernat
Avs: ROR

edm oil

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22 Jul 2014 18:22:16
Would it make sense to trade Petry and yak or draistal for ROR? Avs need d-man. Plus, they get back a great young player.

edm oil

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Doubt Colorado wants to take a step back. IF they have to trade ROR it will be for an established player.

THEGR81

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Completely stupid, Draisaitl would never get traded. Not right now.

Oilersblue1707

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Yeah the Avs need d-men, not Petry. It would take more than that to get ROR

northernavalanche

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Oreillys not going to Edmonton, give it a rest

Drownedfish

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23 Jul 2014 17:18:46
Avs would probably want some pieces developed pieces back. I get that. However, to the guy who said it is stupid to trade draistal aren't u fed up with losing. A guy like ROR could put the oilers in a different level. Of course, they will need a young d-man like gernat and pick to get someone like boychuk or oduay.
That sounds like a team that has better chance of making the playoffs than a team with no 2nd line centre.

edm oil

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As much as I'd like OReilly here, I agree that he won't be coming to Edmonton. I don't think Edm is willing to give up what would be necessary to get him (Schultz++ or Eberle+, something along those lines)

Chirp

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