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27 Jan 2015 15:12:53
I read your reasoning and NO WAY NSH do this trade. Yes they would like to have Kessel, but they aren't taking Phaneuf's contract, they already had Franson once and let him go and Seth Jones is projected to be a much better D than Phaneuf. It makes no sense on NSH side as far as the D involved in this trade is concerned.
Nashville is not trading all of their future/current stars for an elite 1st line RW (which they already have in Forsberg) a horrible defender who I'm pretty sure they traded to Toronto a few years ago and a pylon. Nashville laughs and hangs up.
No, just no
It'll make them better now yes. But who cares? They are building a team that can compete for a long time with a great young core why throw that all away for one season?
Better than 2nd in the league, 3 points out of 1st. c'mon, why mess with that and the future of these young stars? answer is you don't and would be fired the instant you did!
27 Jan 2015 12:40:57
27 Jan 2015 12:19:31
27 Jan 2015 07:55:44
Yes, Franson's value has increased. Will DET trade Datsyuk, not at all likely.
You're my favourite person.
Franson for kindl and a 2nd round pick
Detroit is gearing up for a playoff run and Toronto is HOPEFULLY going to start a proper rebuild. So Detroit trading one of their best players and leaders on the team and Toronto picking up a 36 year old makes absolutely no sense?
Make no sense for either team.
Yah Detroit will trade a franchise stud for a bottom pairing defenseman who will be a ufa at seasons end. delusional leaf fans strike again
You do know that datsyuk is considered to be one if not the best player in the nhl right?
27 Jan 2015 06:55:48
27 Jan 2015 06:15:09
27 Jan 2015 06:09:34
27 Jan 2015 05:21:35
Depends where the pick is. I know people will disagree but both of those kids have solid top 6 futures and I'd hate the move if it was a first round pick attached
27 Jan 2015 12:59:20
27 Jan 2015 05:00:20
27 Jan 2015 04:38:55
So 3 1st round picks and young scoring winger for Larsson? he is good but don't think the wings make this deal
27 Jan 2015 03:20:19
Close but not enough.
27 Jan 2015 12:59:57
27 Jan 2015 02:39:36
Im confused. your 3rd trade said to trade michalek to Arizona. but then you said to resign him and then you put him in the line up. how is he in the lineup if you trade him and why would you resign him when he has 2 years left on his contract still
Oh. you meant trade for z. michalek. gotcha.
27 Jan 2015 09:24:34
27 Jan 2015 02:18:35
Your trades are horrible man parenteau for yakupov? yeah so mac t just thinks to himself I think ill trade a 20 year old former 1st overall pick on a entry level deal to montreal for an aging player with the same production who got a bad contract for another season after this one.oh yeah and the fact parenteau is battling concussion problems makes him even more desirable. then phaneuf for yandle AND A PICK if this was possible don't you think nonis would have already jumped at this full speed.taylor hall for eller and scraps?come on man your better then that.put some actual thought into it
IMO MacTavish would accept that trade. Do you mean a pick from Dalton Thrower, Morgan Ellis or Jeremy Gregoire would be examples of "C" rated prospects?
I think Edmonton doesn't do any of those they want more quality players that can be difference makers for them and your providing the with all of montreals expendable pieces. In order to get players like a Hall or Eberle edmonton would probably want something from montreal that would be a little harder to give up.
Wow, MacT would be fired. 3 times.
I read some where to get eberle it would take eller or Deharnis and a young defender and a pick to get him
27 Jan 2015 02:14:10
Nonis will not trade Kessel for that.
27 Jan 2015 06:12:55
27 Jan 2015 00:45:08
Don't hate that idea but I'd like to see the jets move bogosian. Chiarot has to go through waivers and someone will pick him up for sure. Bogosian has the most trade value and unfortunately known to be a bandaid. Hate to see a guy like that go but I think he's the best option personally
27 Jan 2015 13:01:45
27 Jan 2015 00:26:58
27 Jan 2015 13:02:04
26 Jan 2015 23:54:47
No thanks from Tampa. Not that I think Ovechkin couldn't fetch that much, he might be able to. but I don't see Tampa breaking up the triplets and trading their top 2 d prospects, when they are built as a young team on good contracts and will be able to grow together. Ovechkin and his salary makes it harder to keep the core in tact.
27 Jan 2015 13:02:57
26 Jan 2015 23:51:32
L.A would want plekanec for Williams.
26 Jan 2015 23:50:55
26 Jan 2015 23:47:59
I don't know why you have a draft pick going to ottawa if Pittsburgh wants Greening they could have him for next to nothing
26 Jan 2015 22:40:30
26 Jan 2015 22:40:12
This trade doesn't help either team at all
^ other than Phaneuf is locked up long term. IF ARZ was interested they may like the fact that they don't have to worry about Phaneuf leaving for another 6 years.
26 Jan 2015 22:38:54
Yes yes no. IMO EDM would want more for Yakupov
The 7th rounder makes it all ok
In all honesty I think Edmonton declines. There isn't much of value coming back at all in those deals. Packages headlined by emelin/Eller won't get you hall/eberle
27 Jan 2015 13:04:24
If Montreal wants Hall they can start with Galchenyuk and add. If Montreal wants Eberle they can start with Gallagher and add. Do you see what I'm getting at. You have to give something of value to get something of value.
26 Jan 2015 21:33:38
26 Jan 2015 21:20:35
26 Jan 2015 20:34:14
Most contenders don't have any cap space
I could see this happening.
In any Trade involving Phaneuf the lead will be taking back a bigger contract. If they really wanted him, They would find a way to make it work.
@BizzyBee, I agree with your comment about grabbing Richards. I hope Murray does just that. I was considering trading for him and actually posted a trade that was rejected by most commentators, but for free! With Nolan's coaching capabilities, I doubt his presence will have much of an impact on the team's performance. If the team does end the loosing streak, we could all congratulate Murray on the great pick up. LMFAO!
Leafs said they aren't going to claim him off waivers
27 Jan 2015 00:32:15
Waived mike richards
Leafs should trade Phaneuf to Flyers for Lecavalier & Coburn
26 Jan 2015 20:32:55
HA. No from Ottawa. NOT going to happen. Lehner, Ceci/Z-bad AND a 1st. Nope. how about Lehner, Weircoch, Prince/Peumpel. That's more the return.
Ottawa adds. I can see edmonton asking for stone or a younger player or players that are almost nhl ready instead of draft picks
Right idea but the value is way off
No from Ottawa, that's way too much youth to give up considering that ottawas not one scoring winger away from being a cup contender
Hall is not going to ottawa if the names karlsson, bobby ryan, turris and 5 1sts are called outhysterical sens fans
Lol Sens fans. Way too much? Taylor Hall is elite. Lehner's numbers are barely better than Scrivens' so he's not a huge upgrade for EDM. Whether you would make this trade or not, that's what Hall is worth. Maybe more you Homers.
Anyone saying that hall isn't going to Ottawa unless its for karlsson or ryan obviously doesn't pay much attention to hockey. Oilers management is full of persons. they're almost desperate. and karlsson is one of a kind player. hall is a bust in Edmonton.
@McJesus15 I beg to differ. He is worth a chuck yes, but he's NOT elite. If you want to see elite, look at Crosby, Stamkos and the like. Not Hall. A roster player, and good young prospects is all he gets. Even Ryan had 4 30+ seasons and only got a young roster player, middle prospect and a 1st (given by Murray just to assure it gets done)
26 Jan 2015 19:30:18
26 Jan 2015 19:57:45
@Shanker, another sagacious post. Not nearly enough for Kessel, a top 10 player in the league. Horvat another prospect such as Gaunce, Vey or McCann & a 1st is more like it. With the package you suggested predsfan TML would only really be getting Horvat as a possible top 6 player, not even close to a top 10 in the league.
Wait people think Kessel is a top 10 player in the league? Not even close in my opinion. Crosby Malkin Stamkos Weber Toews Doughty Ovechkin Tavares Keith Hedman are just 10 players in no particular order that are better than kessel.
27 Jan 2015 00:02:34
I just feel that Kessels reputation is not very good right now and that some teams may feel that he may harm their teams chemistry. Corrado will be at least a top 6 defenseman for a long time and Horvat is likely to be a stud and then the Leafs get some cap space to play around with next year.
Add elder or hamius and another prospect and a 6th round pick
Kessel was last year and the year before.
Sbr2017 top 10 scorer does not equal top 10 player. Guy has never even scored 40 goals in a season and the only thing he brings to a team is offense. He is talented, nobody can deny that he scores 30 goals most years, but to be elite you have to at least compete for the Richard trophy or bring more than one dimension to the game, and that he does not do. He would not be the top player on any team considered a competitor in the league.
To all comments above. Thanks for the serious comments, greatly appreciated. I guess my point being, Nonis would not accept anything other than a good player or a really good prospect and 2 1sts. Or two really good prospects and a 1st. Or a combination similar to that. He was traded from Boston to TML for 2 1sts and a 2nd, he has only confirmed that that was a fair price. Why would Nonis trade him for anything less?
Horvat isn't going anywhere.
26 Jan 2015 18:56:03
26 Jan 2015 19:01:20
I wonder if any one will claim him
I guarantee that if that happened, Murray would snatch him up in a heart beat. Draft McDavid or Jack Eichel At the end of the season, he could offer Ennis, Moulson & 1st (not the 1st or 2nd overall) to TML for Kessel, turn around and trade Tyler Myers, Cody Hodgson, Mark Pysyk, Joel Armia & Chad Ruhwedel to EDM for Talor Hall
No one will claim him but someone could still trade for him sending salary back.
Keep dreaming sbr2017
I should add that Nolan would have to be instructed to play him less than 7 min a game with Kaleta and some other AHL player. A line of Hodgson-Richards-Gionta playing 15 min/gm would score too much.
Also, if Murray did claim him, it would generate some positive buzz in Buffalo and the fans would get excited again.
@JF12, actually when those trades were posted earlier most people thought the Sabres were giving up too much, so the trades are viable if Murray wanted to make them. Hall has been reported to be on the market, and I would imagine there are more trades involving Kessel on this site than any player. Moulson wants to live close to North York and took Murray's offer. So the bottom line is maybe I am dreaming but it is a very real viable plan.
Richards has won everything there is to win in hockey: World JR, Memorial Cup, Olympics, AHL and 2 Stanley cups! The Sabres need that leadership.
Ottawa should pick him up for these reasons.
26 Jan 2015 16:49:12
No way from Nashville.
26 Jan 2015 17:03:30
I think you posted a similar trade below involving Wilson and Kessel. IMO this takes Nashville in a different direction than what they have been going, which I am not sure they want to do.
26 Jan 2015 21:53:33
Out of all the deals put here for Kessel this makes Sense we get a young stud dman to pair with Rielly to build our team around and I don't care what people say oh kessel isn't worth it but he is a perennial all star Who is top 10 in scoring every year and is exactly what nashville needs and would be great around defensive oriented forward and a more defensive oriented team
Here is the price for Kessel:
26 Jan 2015 16:12:12
I don't think sharks do this.
I don't think Ottawa does this either. 1st rnd pick in what is probably going to be a top5-10 pick? They are holding on to that like GOLD
26 Jan 2015 16:08:39
Van adds a 2nd
Van might have to add but they won't. Bonnino turned out to be keslers replacement. Who knows if o'reilly signs in van so I'd rather keep my top d. Ya van might need am upgrade on top 6 but try to trade one of there underperforming wingers
26 Jan 2015 16:00:43
Ottawa is looking for more scoring up front and are willing to give up some of their dman because they have a lot. This trade really doesn't work for them.
That is true. How's the value though? Far off?
Chiasson is younger and has way more upside, Emelin is overrated , Montreal adds.
26 Jan 2015 14:25:04
No thanks adam tamb is destroying the whl goalies. He be a great player for the Rangers in a year or 2. Nyr decline
@nyr1981 what about Ryan Graves, or Dylan McIlrath. These are two of the pieces that the Rangers could use, I was looking for a "C" prospect that had a long shot chance to play.
26 Jan 2015 13:51:06
26 Jan 2015 09:40:11
Change all the picks to 2015.
26 Jan 2015 06:54:56
26 Jan 2015 08:20:37
Wow. Just wow.
Not quite. I'd rather have Richards than Clarkson. By far.
LOL Hertl and a 2nd for Franson? You've got to be kidding.
26 Jan 2015 17:05:04
Fransons value just keeps going up eh now he can land hertl? Lol
I have to wonder, if Hertl didn't have that 4 goal game last season that got his name on the map, would there be the same reaction to this trade proposal?
26 Jan 2015 03:17:01
26 Jan 2015 01:49:20
Have to do something with that bottom 6 too.
25 Jan 2015 22:45:38
26 Jan 2015 06:27:21
Jack campbell's looking like a first round bust, so I don't think he has all that much value
Value is there for the Tyler Kennedy deal but he's been playing well so idk of Sharks move him. He's started getting Hertl back on track.
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