NHL Trade Rumors

11 Apr 2024 02:25:53
Detroit trades
Lyon

Toronto trades
Woll
3rd round pick.

12 Apr 2024 13:39:22
not a huge fan of either, but not sure why it wouldn't be a one for one, why add pick.

13 Apr 2024 13:00:33
One's proven himself over the last 2 years, including 20 wins this year on a middling team. the other is a bit young and has only 35 career games under his belt with a top end team. I haven't seen anything out of woll that suggests he's ready to be a number 1, so the leafs have the option of either throwing him in the net anyway and "calling him" a number 1 or make a move like this. the reason for an added pick was because I feel this trade helps the leafs in the short-term, but doesn't really fit the team needs of the redwings. Detroit has husso locked in, but also have a couple goalie prospects that are coming along nicely. lyon played in 43 games so far this year, if he can come anywhere close to a repeat next year at 900k this would be a steal for any team.

14 Apr 2024 02:27:21
Unaware of whether Lyon is signed past this year. But based on his play he's likely getting a raise. Woll was showing every sign a franchise would want for a guy who was poised to be the #1 for the following season. After his injury tho he hasn't looked even close to the same. We don't have the funds to get a top end goalie so I as a Leafs fan would rather give Woll the summer and see what happens.

14 Apr 2024 12:13:15
MG. lyon has 1 year left and I agree, he should get something substantial in the summer of 25. woll also has one year left of his entry level.
If there was a way for the leafs to acquire lyon without giving up woll, that sure would be intriguing. 1A-B combined in the ballpark of 1.7.

10 Apr 2024 13:18:01
Ottawa Trades
Chychrun
3rd Round Pick 2025 (Florida's Pick)

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
DeWar
Liljegren
1st Round Pick 2026 (Lottery Protected)


Leafs will be looking to upgrade Defence and adding Chychrun would fit into what they would be looking at.

Unless Chychrun is committed long term on a new contract it would be better to get assets back before he walks for nothing after next season, NRobertson would be either on the second or third line in Ottawa, Liljegren though not Chychrun would play in Ottawa full time, DeWar fills in the 4th line nicely and Sens also get a 1st Rounder out of this deal

Remember everyone Chychrun was traded for a 1st and two 2nd Rounders when Arizona traded him to Ottawa and had more contract as well, so my proposal imo is similar to that transaction.



Thoughts ?

10 Apr 2024 20:25:35
- explain it any way you like, and upvote yourself till the cows come home, but these one-sided trades you post incessantly are a waste of everyone’s time.

- OTT isn’t going to help your leafs out like this for that yard sale of a return. Their new owner would fire any GM that even suggested something like this.

11 Apr 2024 01:40:21
So chychrun for a bag of pucks turns ottawa's 3rd into a 1st? No thanks.

11 Apr 2024 14:13:34
Chickenfoot and Facelift39.
I guess none of those Leaf Players are NHLers in your world unless they play for another team got it.
What did Ottawa trade to get Chychrun from Arizona again with 3 years compared to an expiring contract next season?
If you don't know it was a 1st and two 2nd Rounders, so all of a sudden Chychrun is worth much much more?
Very odd way of thinking don't you think.

11 Apr 2024 22:03:07
Chychrun with one year left is much more valuable than the three players with zero years left.
Ottawa has their own RFA's to work on this summer.
What value does 4th liner dewar have to ottawa? (McEwen still under contract, kastelic still under contract, affordable RFA's kelly and katchouk)
What about bottom pair d liljegren? (Hamonic still under contract, zub under contract)
3rd liner NRobertson? (Matthieu joseph still under contract)
Maybe it's an odd way of thinking to you, but how about just keeping your RFA's and ottawa keeps their 3rd? This would make the trade chychrun to the leafs for a 1st. I'm fairly certain this offer won't work for you, because it doesn't heavily favor the leafs.

12 Apr 2024 03:59:00
Facelift39 N
Robertson gives Ottawa another young winger that has proven he can score playing limited minutes, that's why The Sens would want him.
DeWar is better than any of the 4th line forwards you mentioned, isn't Ottawa trying to get better?
Hamonic is in the same class as Liljegren? Ya sure he is in your world.
All the players in my proposal are RFAs not UFAs so they aren't going anywhere.
Again facts are facts Chychrun with 2 extra years on his contract went for a 1st and two 2nd Rounders.
For some reason you believe Chychrun is worth more than his going rate.
So if The Leafs had two 2nd Rounders and Ottawa kept their 3rd Rounder and NRobertson, Liljegren and DeWar were not part of the deal then it's fair?

13 Apr 2024 13:37:45
YES pinball, I would 100% click believable on chychrun to toronto for two 2nd's. I am certainly not trying to convince you or anybody that hamonic is equivalent to liljegren or that Parker kelly is equivalent to NRobertson, my point is that hamonic is under contract and likewise with zub. is ottawa really going to improve by having zub and liljegren in their top 4 on the right side and hamonic on the bottom pair? At forward, stutzle, Tkachuk, giroux, batherson, pinto, norris. would NRobertson be in their top 6? I'm going to go ahead and say no.
Joseph, kastelic, Greig, McEwen under contract for next year in the bottom 6 - I'm not suggesting these players are superior to dewar, I'm sure he's amazing on the leafs 4th line. I'm simply pointing out that they are under contract for next season. So unless ottawa can pull off a trade similar to some of the proposals you make on here, then these players will be taking spots.
To suggest ottawa would give up assets for fringe RFA's is absurd. Why not make a proposal where each of these players is involved in a sign-and-trade? I'm sure teams would be lining up around block. Ridiculous.

07 Apr 2024 15:38:44
Islanders trade Ryan Pulock, Samuel Bolduc and a 1st round pick

Toronto trades Conor Timmins and Mitvh Marner(4 million retained)

07 Apr 2024 20:48:24
So, the Islanders give up the most valuable piece and somehow and a 1st for one year of Marner?

A trade needs to work for both teams. Not just heavily favour Toronto.

07 Apr 2024 21:37:48
Somehow add a first.

08 Apr 2024 14:22:31
You may be right about value, Leafs can add a 2nd or something.

I am not a Leafs fan, but thought something like this works for both teams, Islanders badly need another player to provide offensive production, while Leafs badly need a player on defense.
Me bad for not considering length of contracts on these players.

08 Apr 2024 22:05:59
Yeah Marner is expensive but to say he has less value than Pulock who is probably similar to Rielly in value is in my opinion either bias or a very stupid opinion. Maybe 5 RWs in the NHL better than Marner but I’d put him 4th (Pasta, Rantanen, Kucherov) and probably 50 dman better than Pulock.

Zero comment on the deal just saying Marner absolutely holds more value then Pulock.

09 Apr 2024 13:47:18
I can see you thinking that one year of a complimentary winger would be as valuable and would get you a top pairing RHD with term on a good contract VBBB and it's absolutely hilarious.

You have to take off the blue and white glasses once and a while and look at it without bias. It's completely unrealistic.

09 Apr 2024 15:09:04
He's not wrong Marcus. Coming from a Wings fan, Marner is one of the top 5 right wingers in the NHL.

Without discussing the trade proposal and discussing value alone, I'd put Marners trade value at a higher value than Pulocks, the factor being that $6.9 million for 1 year with the suggested $4m retention.

09 Apr 2024 15:25:24
I can't see it DrwDave. If Marner had more years on his contract and his contact was reasonable, you could make a case.

But there's no comparable of one year of a winger pulling a top pairing RHD with term on a decent contract, in return.

Pulock is more valuable based on contract and position.

09 Apr 2024 17:46:17
I’d put Kaprizov and Marner around the same value wise with both the same term on there contracts and I’d 100% take Kaprizov over Pulock in a vacuum.

09 Apr 2024 18:49:02
Kaprizov has 2 years remaining after this one, Marner has one. They do not have the same term.

11 Apr 2024 19:47:21
I'd assume any team looking at trading for Marner is asking for a sign and trade to take place or is asking to speak to him before hand to have an extension ready to go.

Assuming the above then the Islanders are adding a pick or two more IMO. Doubt Marner gets moved tho unless he tells Trev outright that I don't want to be here anymore. Suspect an extension gets worked out by the end of the summer.

04 Apr 2024 18:55:01
Oilers in the Offseason.

Players OUT;

DRAISAITL
KANE
CAMPBELL
JANMARK
FOEGELE
*NURSE
*BOUCHARD

*-One of these guys should be moved but highly doubt it happens.

Players IN;

MARTIN NECAS (trade)
SAM REINHART (sign)
NOAH HANIFIN (sign)
BRANDON MONTOUR (sign)

PLUS Re-sign the following;
ADAM HENRIQUE
CONNOR BROWN
SAM CARRICK
DYLAN HOLLOWAY

05 Apr 2024 08:21:21
Very unrealistic

05 Apr 2024 15:17:28
And.

What is the plan with Draisaitl?

05 Apr 2024 15:54:09
sorry for delay in responding. was laughing too hard. not a chance this is even remotely possible.

05 Apr 2024 17:25:16
If Oil get anyone from Carolina I’m hoping it’s Pesce. Severson contract, 6.5M?

05 Apr 2024 19:40:57
Drais is paired with Campbell in order to move that contract, lol.

07 Apr 2024 17:57:19
Buyout sucks but the cap hit is relatively low for Campbell. Almost a sure thing it’ll happen.

08 Apr 2024 17:14:41
YOUR CAPS LOCK APPEARS TO BE STUCK.

31 Mar 2024 07:58:14
ANA - Trevor Zegras
CLB - Kent Johnson, David Jiricek and 2026 1st


Frank Vatrano - Leo Carlsson - Troy Terry
Kent Johnson - Mason McTavish - Ryan Strome
Alex Killorn - Isac Lundestrom - Max Jones
Brock McGinn - Benoit Groulx - Jakob Silfverberg

Cam Fowler - Radko Gudas
Pavel Mintyukov - David Jiricek
Olen Zellweger - Jackson LaCombe


Johnny Gaudreau - Trevor Zegras - Patrik Laine
Boone Jenner - Adam Fantilli - Kirill Marchenko
Yegor Chinakhov - Cole Sillinger - Alex Nylander
Dmitri Voronkov - Sean Kuraly - Alexandre Texier

Zach Werenski - Damon Severson
Ivan Provorov - Adam Boqvist
Jake Bean - Erik Gudbranson

31 Mar 2024 14:16:21
Way to much for Zegras. Wouldn't even do it without the pick.

31 Mar 2024 21:52:56
@Quiet Guy big name that can play centre, I think jackets would be all over that

01 Apr 2024 22:24:42
I’d much, much rather have Kent Johnson then Zegras and I’d much rather have Jiricek then Johnson so wow.

Zegras might be the most overrated player in the game at this point.

03 Apr 2024 02:10:03
Wow, this is a huge overpayment.
I bet in 15 years we say Kent Johnson was the better player.

03 Apr 2024 22:36:39
I tend to agree with the others that it's a bit steep for Zegras, but Verbeek is a tough negotiator, and will likely command some kind of ransom if he moves Zegras.

Crazy things can happen at the draft, and this year's draft pool gets shallow quick. I expect a lot of picks will be traded.

04 Apr 2024 14:03:42
I don’t think Zegras brings back a top 10 pick this draft. You say he can play centre but Nylander has more FOW in one season than Zegras does his whole career. He is a 1 dimensional offensive LW in my eyes and I’d prefer a player like Konechny or Necas long term over him.

04 Apr 2024 15:52:02
Yah Zegras is overrated IMO. He's not responsible defensively at all and his offense doesn't make up for his lack of defense. He gives you a highlight real goal or play a year and returns to being mediocre.

I'm sure someone will look to add with the hopes his offensive output improves, but it shouldn't be for a top 10 pick by any means.

25 Mar 2024 13:54:30
At The Draft.

Ottawa Trades
BTkachuk
Hamonic
3rd Round Pick 2025*

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Holmberg
DeWar
Liljegren
Cowan (OHL)
1st Round Pick 2024
1st Round Pick 2026 (Lottery Protected)


*Sens have 2 picks in the 2025 3rd Round, their own and Florida's.
The Leafs will decide which one they want at The 2025 Draft.


This would be a trade proposal of the ages, Ottawa imo would look at this as they are still in a rebuild and getting this much for mostly BTkachuk could help them more for their future than not doing this proposal.
Leafs get a LWinger that brings so much to the table it would be worth trading away that much youth and future to get him, Hamonic gives them also what they need a tough right-handed shooting defenceman.



Thoughts ?

25 Mar 2024 14:48:55
Ottawa won't trade Tkachuk, especially for that horrible offer of 4th line NHLers, boarder line AHLers, unproven Junior players, and late 1st round picks.
Stop already with your daily one sided, pro leaf trade follies.

25 Mar 2024 15:40:46
islandjet1
Besides DeWar who is the 4th liner? and there are no AHLers in my proposal, Easton Cowan just set a record for conservative points in London and that's not a prospect?
Liljegren would be third in Defense scoring so that's garbage as well?
Two 1st Rounders aren't worth anything else according to you.
And Holmberg is a solid Winger/ Centre and will only get better.
Look to trade Brady Tkachuk would be a bold move but what is in my proposal is the opposite of what you just posted as besides DeWar being a 4th liner, nothing else in your view applies at all.

25 Mar 2024 22:12:48
Stop it. Ottawa wouldn't accept and the little cost controlled depth we do have should be held onto.

We are a whole ass year away from being ready to make a legitimate push. We have next to zero draft capital, our goaltending is questionable at best, and we are still missing a very solid RHD.

You overvalue our players like no other man and have no idea the value of other teams' players or their importance to their current team.

25 Mar 2024 23:35:21
Adding Tkachuk would mean $62.355 million out of a possible $87.7 million salary cap will be allocated to 6 players, 5 of which are forwards. (Matthews 13.25, Nylander 11.5, Tavares 11, Marner 10.9, Reilly 7.5 and Tkachuk at 8.205)

$24.645 million left to pay 16 players, one of which would be Samsonov looking for an extension and a raise on his current $3.55m salary.

Toronto doesn't get any closer to a Stanley cup by trading their best prospect and 2 1st round picks for another forward.

26 Mar 2024 13:19:09
DrezDave
16 players to resign?
That number is way off, you might disagree with me which you are entitled to about my proposal, but please post facts not fiction.

26 Mar 2024 13:29:39
He never said we needed to resign them he's saying we have $24.645 mill to fill out 16 roster spots. That's not enough to build a contending team. I'm sure you are seeing Vegas trade away their draft capital and are thinking man we should do that too. The difference is they have guys signed at reasonable cap hits so they have built an absolute powerhouse of a team because of it. They can afford to trade draft picks away cause they are likely 3-4 years away from some key players regressing and can wait to add prospects. We are not.

26 Mar 2024 13:32:55
$10.7 million allocated to Knies, Kampf, Reaves, Mcmann, McCabe, Timmins and Woll.

So that's $73 million out of $87 million committed to 13 players.

$14 million left to sign a starting goalie, 3 NHL caliber defenseman, and 5 other NHL caliber forwards.

You want facts? You can't ice a competitive NHL roster when 84% of your teams salary is allocated to only 13 players, none of which are the starting goalie.

26 Mar 2024 13:39:37
MG69
Leafs for next season have 13 players signed, the max on a roster is 23 players so 23 - 13 is 10 not 16, please explain where the other 6 come in?

26 Mar 2024 13:52:55
DrwDave
Woll is the starter next season not Samsonov, which I believe isn't resigned.

26 Mar 2024 14:10:05
Might as well take 2.2 mill off that Hamonic makes @DrwDave so that number now becomes 11.8 mill for two NHL caliber dmen, 5 other forwards, and I won't even say a starting goalie but another goalie to share starting duties with Will. Either way it's not enough to make a competitive cup team.

26 Mar 2024 14:40:40
Good god man he is saying the rest of the cap left over after you take away the cap hits of Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Rielly, and Tkachuk would be used on the remaining roster spots whether they are signed to us or not. He also listed the players that are signed through till next offseason and they eat up $12.9 mill. So now we are at around $11.8 mill for the remaining roster spots from either guys in our system or guys we sign. End of the day we need another NHL level goalie, at least 2 NHL level dmen, and forwards to either be signed or from our system. The number is actually even less as I didn't include Jarnkrok.

28 Mar 2024 11:06:43
Thats alot of quantity with very little quality coming from the leafs, like usual.

31 Mar 2024 11:27:05
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